Character Discussion Thread

[Gunla]

Shulk, Takamaru, Chrom, Lucina, (Chrom and Lucina), Robin, Roy, Isaac, Ghirahim or Saki

Shulk and Lucina, personally.
And as usual, we categorize Sword Users... like hell any of these characters would play the same given Sakurai had the time to program all of these characters. Because they wouldn't. Hopefully.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Shulk and Lucina, personally.
And as usual, we categorize Sword Users... like hell any of these characters would play the same given Sakurai had the time to program all of these characters. Because they wouldn't. Hopefully.

I only do that when their sword is practically the same.

 

[Ura]

My top sword picks would be Takamaru and Robin. I'm fond of sword users in general, though, so I'd be happy to see any of them. Except Roy. I never particularly liked him in Melee, so I doubt he'd interest me in his possible return.

We can never be friends.

 

[Gunla]

I only do that when their sword is practically the same.

A stance is really what I think matters. Someone can wield a different sword and function similarly to another character, but someone can wield a copy of a sword and play differently. If I was wielding a sword using a backhand stance, it's much different from a fronthand in terms of fighting style. If this is some stance on Fire Emblem, characters in that series often do have different stances. Doesn't mean they won't be clones, but it doesn't mean they will guaranteed.

We can never be friends.

I'd insert a War joke here, but it that would be cliche.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Shulk, Takamaru, Chrom, Lucina, (Chrom and Lucina), Robin, Roy, Isaac, Ghirahim or Saki

Pick two out of these sword characters to be in Smash4. (Chrom and Lucina tagteam counts as one).

Eh.... this better not be a omagerd too many sword characters...thing

Anyway Shulk and takamaru.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

A stance is really what I think matters. Someone can wield a different sword and function similarly to another character, but someone can wield a copy of a sword and play differently.

That's all I ever hear in "similar move set" discussions.

Can, Can, Can!

I'm not interested in cans, I'm interested in wood.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

So...
200th page guys...
So, does anyone have anything interesting that I haven't already responded to?
And @SaturnGamer64 I see what you did there... XD

 

[Gunla]

That's all I ever hear in "similar move set" discussions.

Can, Can, Can!

I'm not interested in cans, I'm interested in wood.

They would have similar or different if Sakurai decides to take that respective direction. But it's all up in the air for both sides. So no one is right or wrong here, yet.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm interested in wood.

Kinky.

So...

If you had to choose one more Punch Out!! character, who would it be?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

If you had to choose one more Punch Out!! character, who would it be?

Realistically: King Hippo
Personally Poisanally: King Hippo

 

[?????????????]

If you had to choose one more Punch Out!! character, who would it be?

Bald Bull.

 

[RouffWestie]

Kinky.

So...

If you had to choose one more Punch Out!! character, who would it be?

Doc Louis

 

[Ura]

A stance is really what I think matters. Someone can wield a different sword and function similarly to another character, but someone can wield a copy of a sword and play differently. If I was wielding a sword using a backhand stance, it's much different from a fronthand in terms of fighting style. If this is some stance on Fire Emblem, characters in that series often do have different stances. Doesn't mean they won't be clones, but it doesn't mean they will guaranteed.

I'd insert a War joke here, but it that would be cliche.

War jokes are too mainstream.

Spoiler

 

[UltimateWario]

If you had to choose one more Punch Out!! character, who would it be?

Doc Louis, without a doubt. Not in-game, Doc, though. I'm talkin' sassy "I've seen a lot" Doc from the live-action Punch-Out!! Wii commercial.

"What do I think of Mac's chances against Piston Hondo? -takes bite of candy bar- We're gonna be sayin' 'sayonara' to him. King Hippo's gonna be the King o' Losin'."

 

[FlareHabanero]

rep???

Oh yeah, the people that think there is some sort of imaginary criteria that must be fulfilled otherwise the universe will choke on a chicken bone.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Shulk, Takamaru, Chrom, Lucina, (Chrom and Lucina), Robin, Roy, Isaac, Ghirahim or Saki

Pick two out of these sword characters to be in Smash4. (Chrom and Lucina tagteam counts as one).

Roy and Takamaru.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Kinky.

So...

If you had to choose one more Punch Out!! character, who would it be?

Chocolate bar.

 

[Pacack]

We can never be friends.

I'd just be indifferent to him since it wouldn't be anything new. It's the same reason that I don't particularly care whether Ike comes back or not. His playstyle never particularly interested me. It's not like I'm against either of them coming back, I just don't really care for them.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Another Punch Out character? Mike Tyson

But seriously, Doc Louis I guess.

 

[Ura]

I'd just be indifferent to him since it wouldn't be anything new. It's the same reason that I don't particularly care whether Ike comes back or not. His playstyle never particularly interested me. It's not like I'm against either of them coming back, I just don't really care for them.

I was just teasing lol. But Roy is one of my favorite characters in smash as well as one of my 3 mains in Melee with the other 2 being Link and Young Link.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Kinky.

So...

If you had to choose one more Punch Out!! character, who would it be?

King Hippo.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Oh yeah, the people that think there is some sort of imaginary criteria that must be fulfilled otherwise the universe will choke on a chicken bone.

Oh, you mean like a hardware rep? Yeah, that's kind of stupid that people think that's required. What happens when you add Diskun and then Smash 5 comes? Do you HAVE to have a hardware rep even though there aren't any!?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Oh, you mean like a hardware rep? Yeah, that's kind of stupid that people think that's required. What happens when you add Diskun and then Smash 5 comes? Do you HAVE to have a hardware rep even though there aren't any!?

He means characters being included to represent their series as opposed to just being a fun character that brings a lot to the table.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

He means characters being included to represent their series as opposed to just being a fun character that brings a lot to the table.

That's actually a thing. Characters have gotten in to represent IPs. Maybe not JUST to do that, but it's certainly an important factor sometimes. Sakurai even stated that he thought a second Metroid character in Brawl was important.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

That's actually a thing. Characters have gotten in to represent IPs. .

Example?

Sakurai even stated that he thought a second Metroid character in Brawl was important.

He never said important. He just said he wanted to.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Example?

Well, like I just said. One of the reasons Zero Suit Samus got in was that Sakurai was specifically looking for a second Metroid character. Jigglypuff probably got in Super Smash brothers because he wanted more than one Pokemon, otherwise he wouldn't have picked a character who wasn't that popular worldwide just because of similar body build. Wii Fit Trainer's merit I can bet you was to represent Wii Fit.

He never said important. He just said he wanted to.

Usually what he wants becomes important.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Well, like I just said. One of the reasons Zero Suit Samus got in was that Sakurai was specifically looking for a second Metroid character.

I concede there..

Usually what he wants becomes important.

I'd put this as "sometimes" personally.

 

[?????????????]

Example?

Well, I gotta question if Roy and Lucas were really "fun characters that bring a lot to the table"?

Lucas is great and all, but his movepool in MOTHER 3 offers little more than what Ness can do in Earthbound (not that either use much of their own abilities in SSB). And Roy's not bad, but at the time of addition, we didn't even know anything about his character. As far as SSB is concerned, it was "Marth with fire."

 

[FlareHabanero]

Wii Fit Trainer got in because of her gameplay.

Literally nothing was said about sales.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Wii Fit Trainer got in because of her gameplay.

Literally nothing was said about sales.

To be fair, Sakurai has never talked about sales though...

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Well, I gotta question if Roy and Lucas were really "fun characters that bring a lot to the table"?

Roy was fun
Lucas was both

 

[FlareHabanero]

To be fair, Sakurai has never talked about sales though...

He never did, which makes people being so passionate about the subject seem contradictory.

 

[?????????????]

Roy was fun
Lucas was both

They were. But if they were going purely for characters that would offer the best new gameplay, they could have added entirely contrasting characters of the same franchise as opposed to characters already similar to pre-existing characters from the same franchise.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Literally nothing was said about sales.

So the game's popularity obviously had nothing to do with her inclusion. Because we all know nothing Sakurai doesn't state can be true.
(also I'm not even talking about sales. Why would you assume that I of all people would consider that a merit?)

 

[?????????????]

Don't games sell well because they are popular?

And aren't games popular because they were good games?

And don't good games have characters that people come to enjoy through playing the game?

Seems like a reasonable enough connection to me.

 

[UltimateWario]

Don't games sell well because they are popular?

Well yes.

And aren't games popular because they were good games?

Unfortunately, this isn't always the case.

And don't good games have characters that people come to enjoy through playing the game?.

Nor is this.

 

[?????????????]

Well yes.


Unfortunately, this isn't always the case.


Nor is this.

Can you give me an example of a popular game that was flat-out bad? Or an example of a popular game where the general reception of the main character was negative?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Can you give me an example of a popular game that was flat-out bad? Or an example of a popular game where the general reception of the main character was negative?

 

[?????????????]

Final Fantasy XIII

I have to admit, I know next to nothing about that game. Doing some very small research on it, it looks like the game received reasonably high reviews, sold well, and as for Lightning...mixed reception. A lot of criticism, but also mid to high rankings on popularity polls.

But that's, like, 5 minutes of research. Could be totally wrong, but it doesn't look flat-out bad or unfavorable.

 

[Ember Reaper]

FF13 wasn't that bad. I found it enjoyable and fun. The end didn't make much sense, but it was still fun.