Character Discussion Thread

[Deleted member]

The hell does that even mean?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

It's a risky prediction list.

Did you know I'm not too optimistic about Young Link's chance of being DLC for Smash?

 

[Arcadenik]

Be honest, is this really a prediction list, or just some fantasy you want to come true?

Because if you seriously predict we're getting 18 DLC characters, every single veteran from previous Smash games, 5 3rd Parties, etc., you have to be either insane or extremely clueless.

I honestly think Nintendo is VERY generous with 5-6 DLC characters (Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu, and 1-2 Smash Ballot characters).

18 DLC characters? Are we really that impatient for more characters that we want them in SSB4 instead of SSB5?

 

[BluePikmin11]

It's a prediction roster with risky choices that people consider to have a low chance.

 

[Kenith]

I don't think Young Link is unlikely at all. I think he's practically confirmed actually.

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

I honestly think Nintendo is VERY generous with 5-6 DLC characters (Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu, and 1-2 Smash Ballot characters).

18 DLC characters? Are we really that impatient for more characters that we want them in SSB4 instead of SSB5?

18 DLC characters is pushing it. 3-5 seems like the best range of characters will get pre-ballot and after the ballot. The Smash community would have a field day if we had 18 character spots and would still complain about a certain character of theirs that still didn't make it in.

 

[YoshiandToad]

It's a prediction roster with risky choices that people consider to have a low chance.

But I'm presuming you don't think we'll be getting 18 DLC characters, Blue?

 

[StormC]

If Mewtwo took months to develop, we'll be waiting until 5mash is released for all that DLC to finish.

 

[BluePikmin11]

But I'm presuming you don't think we'll be getting 18 DLC characters, Blue?

The number depends a multitude of factors and I know not all will get in, but I'm confident it'll at least be more than 10 and we'll have a few surprise characters in the game.

If Mewtwo took months to develop, we'll be waiting until 5mash is released for all that DLC to finish.

Unless all pre-ballot characters are being developed at the same time.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I don't think Young Link is unlikely at all. I think he's practically confirmed actually.

(Glares angrily)

 

[Kenith]

If Mewtwo took months to develop, we'll be waiting until 5mash is released for all that DLC to finish.

Well, a lot of them are clones and Brawl veterans, so...maybe not. :D

 

[Arcadenik]

The number depends a multitude of factors and I know not all will get in, but I'm confident it'll at least be more than 10 and we'll have a few surprise characters in the game.


Unless all pre-ballot characters are being developed at the same time.

LOL at least more than 10?

 

[Kenith]

(Glares angrily)

(Sorry, couldn't resist. Also topical, as this is the only third Link I'll accept).

18 DLC characters is pushing it. 3-5 seems like the best range of characters will get pre-ballot and after the ballot. The Smash community would have a field day if we had 18 character spots and would still complain about a certain character of theirs that still didn't make it in.

Do you mean 3-5 before AND after the ballot, or total?
If the latter, I strongly disagree...7-9 seems like a much more likely number. I know Smash characters take a lot more work than other games, but still, 5 characters, 2 stages and a mode would be considerably smaller than how much Mario Kart 8 and even Hyrule Warriors got.

 

[Megadoomer]

I honestly think Nintendo is VERY generous with 5-6 DLC characters (Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu, and 1-2 Smash Ballot characters).

I really hope that's not going to be all that there is to it, honestly. Given how many unique veterans were cut from this game (seriously, removing one unique veteran between Melee and Brawl was bad enough - either four or six is just nonsensical), I'd hope that we at least get a few more of the characters who were removed from this game (Snake, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Squirtle, Ivysaur) back as DLC.

 

[Burruni]

Oh man.

I can't wait for people to jump the Impa train back onto Tetra because Hyrule Warriors made her relevant again

 

[False Sense]

It's a risky prediction list.

Isn't that a contradiction in itself?

 

[Kenith]

Oh man.
I can't wait for people to jump the Impa train back onto Tetra because Hyrule Warriors made her relevant again

Yep.
Then people will start to see the true best Zelda newcomer has always/never been relevant. /

 

[Burruni]

Yep.
Then people will start to see the true best Zelda newcomer has always/never been relevant. /

Yeah.
Ganon is always relevant.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Has high fan demand.
Most likely has at least a model in the game. However there may not be motivation to go back and finish him, as he would have to be reworked like Charizard.
Copyright issues, but high fan demand.
Would be hard to implement.
(See Squirtle)
They are pretty much done on both versions. After all that time and money I think they would like to have something to show for it. They are probably being worked on as we speak.
Brawl veterans I predict returning: 2-4 out of 6
Has high fan demand and is easy to make.
Easy to make. (could probably be made with the extra money they got from Roy. lol)
In theory is easy to make. However there is the possibility that he would have to be reworked (like Charizard) for balance reasons.
Melee veterans I predict returning: 2 out of 3.

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(Sorry, couldn't resist. Also topical, as this is the only third Link I'll accept).

I want this Link too. (cuz canine bias) :3

 

[Burruni]

Has high fan demand.
Most likely has at least a model in the game. However there may not be motivation to go back and finish him, as he would have to be reworked like Charizard.
Copyright issues, but high fan demand.
Would be hard to implement.
(See Squirtle)
They are pretty much done on both versions. After all that time and money I think they would like to have something to show for it. They are probably being worked on as we speak.
Brawl veterans I predict returning: 2-4 out of 6
Has high fan demand and is easy to make.
Easy to make. (could probably be made with the extra money they got from Roy. lol)
In theory is easy to make. However there is the possibility that he would have to be reworked (like Charizard) for balance reasons.
Melee veterans I predict returning: 2 out of 3.

I want this Link too. (cuz canine bias) :3

Just correcting you on some matters.

Thee's been no data to suggest that Squirtle and Ivy have data in the game outside of their trophies.

And Roy, Young Link, and Pichu are NOT so easy to make. Because, as Sakurai said about his first DLC interview, that the data from Melee is too out-dated to try to import and upgrade, they'd have to be made from the ground up with the Melee identities as a reference. Wolf would be easier to make than them.

 

[ChikoLad]

Prediction Roster before the direct:

Don't let others bring you down.

 

[Arcadenik]

Oh man.

I can't wait for people to jump the Impa train back onto Tetra because Hyrule Warriors made her relevant again

But it also made King Hyrule relevant again.

 

[Burruni]

But it also made King Hyrule relevant again.

MAH BOI. SMASH BROS IS WHAT ALL CHARACTERS STRIVE FOR!

 

[Deleted member]

Oh man.

I can't wait for people to jump the Impa train back onto Tetra because Hyrule Warriors made her relevant again

I was under the belief that Tetra was one of the best options for a Zelda newcomer.
This only reaffirms it for me.

MAH BOI. SMASH BROS IS WHAT ALL CHARACTERS STRIVE FOR!

I swear, if Daphnes doesn't have a costume that references Harkinian....Nintendo/Tecmo Koei missed a HUGE opportunity.

 

[ChikoLad]

Hyrule Warriors confirms boats for Smash.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

My prediction for DLC consists just on all the characters we already know: Mewtwo, Lucas, Ryu and Roy, + Wolf (due the Star Fox promotion). .. and then, just after the Ballot ending in October, we can expect the announcement of two more characters to be releasing in 2016 (if not just one, THE most requested on the Ballot; but hopefully more than it).

 

[Arcadenik]

MAH BOI. SMASH BROS IS WHAT ALL CHARACTERS STRIVE FOR!

King Hyrule with that CD-i King Harkinian alt would be amazing!

 

[N3ON]

Wait, I'm sorry, were you people expecting Blue's roster not to be ridiculous? >_>

 

[StormC]

Ice Climbers are only gonna happen if somehow Sakurai can make them work on 3DS without changing the characters (which strikes me as unlikely). He's not gonna settle for solo Popo or something else silly like that.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

King Hyrule with that CD-i King Harkinian alt would be amazing!

I actually seriously want this; =P (I always thought that at least Nintendo could use these games as internal joke, rehashing the characters or subtle references here and there;.. can you imagine how gorgeous would be a HD 3D Model of Morshu? )

 

[Burruni]

Ice Climbers are only gonna happen if somehow Sakurai can make them work on 3DS without changing the characters (which strikes me as unlikely). He's not gonna settle for solo Popo or something else silly like that.

Which... is why I removed them from my prediction rosters, no matter how much I love em. I don't see them returning as they were and thus not returning period because Sakurai wouldn't let the characters return but not the fighters they were, imo.

 

[Curious Villager]

Watch as the King of Hyrule becomes the next Impa......

Cool to see him and Tetra in Hyrule Warriors though. About time Wind Waker got some love in that game. c:

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm just glad that Tetra is getting the spotlight again.

*Hopes for Vaati.*

 

[Burruni]

I'm just glad that Tetra is getting the spotlight again.

*Hopes for Vaati.*

Scatman got to you, didn't he?

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

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(Sorry, couldn't resist. Also topical, as this is the only third Link I'll accept).


Do you mean 3-5 before AND after the ballot, or total?
If the latter, I strongly disagree...7-9 seems like a much more likely number. I know Smash characters take a lot more work than other games, but still, 5 characters, 2 stages and a mode would be considerably smaller than how much Mario Kart 8 and even Hyrule Warriors got.

I could get behind 7-9 DLC characters, I guess you could say I was trying to play it safe with the numbering.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Oh man.

I can't wait for people to jump the Impa train back onto Tetra because Hyrule Warriors made her relevant again

At least she's an interesting character.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Thee's been no data to suggest that Squirtle and Ivy have data in the game outside of their trophies.

It's more of an assumption on my part, but I don't see them all that likely as nobody cares about them for some reason.

And Roy, Young Link, and Pichu are NOT so easy to make. Because, as Sakurai said about his first DLC interview, that the data from Melee is too out-dated to try to import and upgrade, they'd have to be made from the ground up with the Melee identities as a reference. Wolf would be easier to make than them.

From what I understand, Roy would take about as much work as Lucina. Lucina is Marth reskined 8 times, and given different damage values. (she is also slightly shorter) Based on that I don't think he would take very long. Young Link is in a similar position as he has Link to use as a template, but would take more work as he would have to be shrunken down, and given different weight, and damage values. Pichu would is similar to Young Link, having Pikachu to work off of, but he may have to be reworked like Charizard, and he has zero popularity.

 

[FalKoopa]

Scatman got to you, didn't he?

I've been a Vaati fan since 2010, actually. Scatman just fired it up.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I hope the direct finally clarifies how picking characters work. For now, I'm probably going to avoid debate here until the direct ends. I have loads of busy things to do tomorrow.

 

[N3ON]

I hope the direct finally clarifies how picking characters work. For now, I'm probably going to avoid debate here until the direct ends.

You want a Direct to explain how they're going to choose characters?