Character Discussion Thread

[Kamui Nohr]

I'll say it again, I expect to see Nintendo vs Capcom at E3, think of how awesome that would be!

I find that way more likely to happen than

• Nintendo vs Bandai Namco (With SoulCalibur's armor-breaking mechanic + Pac-Man)
• Nintendo vs Team Ninja (With Dead or Alive's tag-team throwing! Plus, Ryu, Ryu Hayabusa, that is)

We doing dream SSB5 rosters?

Spoiler: SSB5 Dream Roster

Mario series:





+ as Alternate Character Costumes.
(Semi-Clone/Revamped from Mario)
Yoshi series:

Wario series:
/
Captain Syrup
Donkey Kong series:


Dixie Kong
King K. Rool
Legend of Zelda series:





Zelda Newcomer
Metroid series:


Metroid Newcomer
Kirby series:



Bandana Dee
Star Fox series:



Pokemon series:






Pokemon Gen 7/8 newcomer
F-Zero series:

Samurai Goroh
Mother series:
+ Ninten as an Alternate Character Costume.

Giygas
Fire Emblem series:

(Semi-cloned/Revamped from Marth)
+ Priam as an Alternate Character Costume.
/ + Mark(FE7. Both Male & Female) as an Alternate Character Costume.
(Semi-cloned/Revamped from Marth) + Chrom as an Alternate Character Costume
Fire Emblem Newcomer
Game & Watch series:

Kid Icarus series:


(With Dark Pit Staff as Main weapon/Revamped from Pit)
Pikmin series:

(Semi-Clone/Revamped from Olimar)
Gyromite series:

Animal Crossing series:
/
Wii Fit series:
/
Punch Out! series:
/
Xenoblade series:

Xenoblade X Newcomer
Duck Hunt series:

Splatoon series:
Inkling Girl/Inkling Boy/Octoling
Golden Sun series:
Isaac + Matthew as an Alternate Character Costume.
Mysterious Murasame Castle series:
Takamaru
Chibi-Robo series:
Chibi Robo
Devil World series:
Tamagon
Mii Fighters:



Mage
Sonic the Hedgehog series:

Mega Man series:

Pac-Man series:

Street Fighter series(if it's in):
Ryu

Newcomers:
Captain Syrup
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool(Assuming as Post-Smash Ballot DLC Character Return)
Zelda Newcomer
Metroid Newcomer
Bandana Dee
Pokemon Newcomer
Samurai Goroh
Giygas
Fire Emblem Newcomer
Alph(As Alternate Character to New Character)
Xenoblade X Newcomer
Inkling
Isaac(Assuming as Post-Smash Ballot DLC Character Return)
Takamaru
Chibi-Robo
Tamagon
Mii Mage/Spellcaster

New Character Alternates:
Ninten for Ness
Priam for Ike
Mark for Robin
Chrom for Lucina
Octoling for Inkling
Matthew for Isaac

It's not perfect IMO. I can't really do a Dream Roster when we don't know if Roy & Ryu are guaranteed and if there is going to be Post-Smash Ballot DLC, although this Dream Roster has 2 assumed to be from Post-Smash DLC. I figure that once we are sure that all the DLC is out and no more is coming, that'll make this Dream Roster a lot easier to do. So this one is subject to change.
Also, I didn't add any extra 3rd Parties for now, since with the major ones in, the 3rd party choices are bound to be a bit more unpredictable.

"Chrom for Lucina"

*Chrom doing idle animations, doing that fencing dance)
*Chrom puts hand on chest*
*Chrom flips hair*

is my main fighter and I think I really like 's moveset, so I would be naturally conflicted with how would be handled as a seperate fighter. I think these few changes would be the least disturbing for me.

• Alph doesn't get white and purple Pikmin in favor of Rock Pikmin as to be close to Pikmin 3 canon story
• Alph's Final Smash involves the S.S. Drake and his ability as an engineer(Or just crash-land it like )
• If using Rock Pikmin for down-air it sweetspots more easily than with other Pikmin for Meteor Smash effect!

 

[DustyPumpkin]

After Issac the other Golden Sun character I'd like to see is Alex, what a kickass villain

 

[Burruni]

After Issac the other Golden Sun character I'd like to see is Alex, what a kickass villain

Let get Isaac in and a GS4 release first, champ.

That said, Alex is the most likely 2nd character unless Matthew happened as a Lucas situation.

 

[Ivander]

"Chrom for Lucina"

*Chrom doing idle animations, doing that fencing dance)
*Chrom puts hand on chest*
*Chrom flips hair*

I did say Lucina was revamped/changed up a bit. I was imagining her old Pre-battle pose as her basic pose(minus the shield).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6jXDSDXsGzw#t=23
Edit: Sorry for the video quaility. It was the only video I could find that had her in that pose for a while.

 

[Burruni]

I did say Lucina was revamped/changed up a bit. I was imagining her old Pre-battle pose as her basic pose(minus the shield).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6jXDSDXsGzw#t=23

It helps that, Canonically, Lucina's fighting style was learned by imitating her father, not the Hero King

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Dream Roster also featuring character I have to include because they are or are going to be there yaaaaaaaaay

 

[Kamui Nohr]

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Dream Roster also featuring character I have to include because they are or are going to be there yaaaaaaaaay

"Ew, why is Paula here? She's a clone of Ness for having his PSI Thunder and PSI Fire!"

How I imagine some people who haven't played or seen Earthbound to be like.

 

[A Distant Demon]

My dream roster i guess

Spoiler

literally every veteran. It's a dream isnt it? This includes ryu and a unique solo pokemon trainer

1. Viridi all that snark and all that moveset potential <3
Uprising 2 when?

2. ridley the 3rd chatacter i jumped on the bandwagon to after geno and mewtwo. The only one im still on
Metroid anything when?

3. Wonder red- moveset potential and a whole lot of publicity for a series that needs it. Wonderful 102 when?

4. Edea (bravely default) while agnes is the better choice this is again a dream roster. An absolutely huge moveset potential from thise many many jobs.

5. Dark samus- i have no idea why i like this character but i suppose she could "rep" 3d metroid

6. Ganon- a pig demon with a trident. Nuff said

7. Dixie kong- my preferred dk newcomer

8. K rool - both should be in though

9.inklings- splatoon is a fantastic new ip and the inklings have amazing charm

10. Toad with a captain toad alt that takes moves from treasure tracker- best of both worlds

11. Bandana dee- spears are cool and we sort of get common enemy representation. Kind of. A little bit. Not really

12. Porky- mechs aee pool. Porky is cool

13. Lyn- the first american FE lord. Also absolutely awesome

And 6 characters so fueled by bias they would have to be a dream within a dream roster

Spoiler

Melia
Hades
Phosphora
kumatora
True metal face
Gardevoir

And this is what happens when hearly every character you want is in the base roster. You start to pick less and less popular characters

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

What you say is true, however when people bring up those particular characters in response to what Sakurai said about Ridley, it needs to be adressed why keeping them balanced doesn't cause overall drastic compromises while the same would not be true for Ridley.

Fair point. As far as Ridley is concerned, it should be noted that Ridley is not even close to the same case as other characters.

Characters are changed if the alterations that are planned aren't massive, base character altering changes. For example, giving Zero Suit Samus jet boots doesn't alter the character, whereas Ridley being shrunk down to be the same height as Samus is...just strange. I mean I get that people like Ridley. I like the character myself. But to dismiss things that conflict with him being a playable character...I don't know man.

With Olimar being a tiny space adventurer, he's the only one from his respective series. It seems to me that, within series, the characters are pretty evenly matched up with each other. That's why it isn't as important to compare Ridley to Bowser as it would be to compare his size in Smash to Samus.

The only time Ridley has been small in Metroid is the original game, and that was because of the early hardware. In any other game, Ridley has become a much larger beast. The size he maintains in Smash currently is a pretty accurate size all things considered.

I suppose a certain way to justify this logic is to take other "boss" characters and justify their size in Smash (or hypothetical sizes). If for example, Metal Face were shrunk down to be a much smaller size, it wouldn't make any sense. Same with Yellow Devil.

People will never give up on Ridley. I'm not one to say that they should. People will want what they want. I just feel that if size was important to Sakurai in his decision making process, then it's important. What fans should aim to do is show a logical unbiased way in which Ridley's size does not interfere with his playability, or keeping him accurate to his character.

Otherwise I'll just always play devil's advocate

 

[Burruni]

My dream roster i guess

Spoiler

literally every veteran. It's a dream isnt it? This includes ryu and a unique solo pokemon trainer

1. Viridi all that snark and all that moveset potential <3
Uprising 2 when?

2. ridley the 3rd chatacter i jumped on the bandwagon to after geno and mewtwo. The only one im still on
Metroid anything when?

3. Wonder red- moveset potential and a whole lot of publicity for a series that needs it. Wonderful 102 when?

4. Edea (bravely default) while agnes is the better choice this is again a dream roster. An absolutely huge moveset potential from thise many many jobs.

5. Dark samus- i have no idea why i like this character but i suppose she could "rep" 3d metroid

6. Ganon- a pig demon with a trident. Nuff said

7. Dixie kong- my preferred dk newcomer

8. K rool - both should be in though

9.inklings- splatoon is a fantastic new ip and the inklings have amazing charm

10. Toad with a captain toad alt that takes moves from treasure tracker- best of both worlds

11. Bandana dee- spears are cool and we sort of get common enemy representation. Kind of. A little bit. Not really

12. Porky- mechs aee pool. Porky is cool

13. Lyn- the first american FE lord. Also absolutely awesome

And 6 characters so fueled by bias they would have to be a dream within a dream roster

Spoiler

Melia
Hades
Phosphora
kumatora
True metal face
Gardevoir

And this is what happens when hearly every character you want is in the base roster. You start to pick less and less popular characters

Replace Lyn with Anna and toss in Waluigi and I'd shove dollars at this. Why do you have to get so close

 

[A Distant Demon]

Replace Lyn with Anna and toss in Waluigi and I'd shove dollars at this. Why do you have to get so close

Because crushing your happiness is ever so fun
anna would be cool probably. Waluigi is a bit meh for me though.

So throw in anna and make it one away from perfect

. . .throw in anna. Sounds like a deal from a shopkeeper

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Here are my grounds on NOT choosing Krystal. I dont like the character? thats the vibe i got.

1) Star Fox as a series is one of which Sakurai clearly has a fairly narrow view. Across 4 games, all but one stage for the series involves you fighting atop the Great Fox in some capacity. I don't see Sakurai doing much special with her, which brings me to my next point.

2) The staff that her big moveset potential would come from is all from an early Gamecube game, the most hated of the series, one that's only tie to Star Fox is being the protagonist and Andross appearing at the end for no reason. It could be seen as irrelevant to who Krystal has become in the Star Fox series.

3) I see more chance for Dixie because she was in some capacity worked on back in Brawl as a 5th choice.

1) Narrow? He tried to make a starfox for pete sakes, the reason we had clones mainly was because melee and brawl were rushed to all hell, so he went for some clones. Opinion. I'd say he could use the staff unless he straight up didnt like the character, which there is no evidence of.

2) This point is just so tiresome to hear, First of all Other M is the most hated and yet we have models from other M in smash, even characters from games that didnt sell that well (Ike) were considered as well. Palutena uses Powers that Pit uses in Uprising, the Power's are originally Palutena's, Krystal staff is originally hers... see where I'm going with this? Irrelevant weapon you say? Fludd.

3) I see both of them getting in especially if the game is smash 5, as for DLC who knows but for smash 5 when alot of people are voting for dixie and Krystal in the ballot, makes it more likely for both to get in.

I dont understand the krystal hate other than I hate this character, she has a good shot more than most people realize. Just my 2 cents.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

"Ew, why is Paula here? She's a clone of Ness for having his PSI Thunder and PSI Fire!"

How I imagine some people who haven't played or seen Earthbound to be like.

Inb4 "how would they know she had PSI Thunder and PSI Fire if they haven't played/seen Earthbound?"

 

[DustyPumpkin]

"Ew, why is Paula here? She's a clone of Ness for having his PSI Thunder and PSI Fire!"

How I imagine some people who haven't played or seen Earthbound to be like.

Well I wanted her as an Alt for Nes tbh

 

[Burruni]

1) Narrow? He tried to make a starfox for pete sakes, the reason we had clones mainly was because melee and brawl were rushed to all hell, so he went for some clones. Opinion. I'd say he could use the staff unless he straight up didnt like the character, which there is no evidence of.

2) This point is just so tiresome to hear, First of all Other M is the most hated and yet we have models from other M in smash, even characters from games that didnt sell that well (Ike) were considered as well. Palutena uses Powers that Pit uses in Uprising, the Power's are originally Palutena's, Krystal staff is originally hers... see where I'm going with this? Irrelevant weapon you say? Fludd.

3) I see both of them getting in especially if the game is smash 5, as for DLC who knows but for smash 5 when alot of people are voting for dixie and Krystal in the ballot, makes it more likely for both to get in.

I dont understand the krystal hate other than I hate this character, she has a good shot more than most people realize. Just my 2 cents.

I mean Narrow on the grounds of what was given for the three representatives up to this point. Were the two kinds of clones rushed? Yes. But there's still a precedent.

Other M is the most hated, but it's THE MOST RECENT. That is the big difference. I'm saying that Starfox Adventures is possibly too dated of a source material to be seen as a viable usage for Krystal's moveset because it was a very limited part of her history in the series.

Krystal is one of the most popular characters I didn't put in, I specifically listed her at the bottom. But like Impa, I don't see her being an addition to their series.

 

[StormC]

Fair point. As far as Ridley is concerned, it should be noted that Ridley is not even close to the same case as other characters.

Characters are changed if the alterations that are planned aren't massive, base character altering changes. For example, giving Zero Suit Samus jet boots doesn't alter the character, whereas Ridley being shrunk down to be the same height as Samus is...just strange. I mean I get that people like Ridley. I like the character myself. But to dismiss things that conflict with him being a playable character...I don't know man.

With Olimar being a tiny space adventurer, he's the only one from his respective series. It seems to me that, within series, the characters are pretty evenly matched up with each other. That's why it isn't as important to compare Ridley to Bowser as it would be to compare his size in Smash to Samus.

The only time Ridley has been small in Metroid is the original game, and that was because of the early hardware. In any other game, Ridley has become a much larger beast. The size he maintains in Smash currently is a pretty accurate size all things considered.

I suppose a certain way to justify this logic is to take other "boss" characters and justify their size in Smash (or hypothetical sizes). If for example, Metal Face were shrunk down to be a much smaller size, it wouldn't make any sense. Same with Yellow Devil.

People will never give up on Ridley. I'm not one to say that they should. People will want what they want. I just feel that if size was important to Sakurai in his decision making process, then it's important. What fans should aim to do is show a logical unbiased way in which Ridley's size does not interfere with his playability, or keeping him accurate to his character.

Otherwise I'll just always play devil's advocate

As someone who used to be more adamant of supporting Ridley back in the day, I tend to agree. I'm sorta in the mentality now that it would be great if they put him in and got him to work properly, but I don't think he's necessary to the roster and that people underestimate the special adjustments Ridley would need to be a professionally-created fighter in Super Smash Bros. I'll just link my previous thoughts on the matter.

I just hope that people don't get caught up in Metroid needing another rep, especially "in place" of Ridley. The last thing we need is a D-list hunter added to Smash Bros., not that anyone at Nintendo would ever go for it.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

As someone who used to be more adamant of supporting Ridley back in the day, I tend to agree. I'm sorta in the mentality of that it would be great if they put him in and got him to work properly, but I don't think he's necessary to the roster and that people underestimate the special adjustments Ridley would need to be a professionally-created fighter in Super Smash Bros. I'll just link my previous thoughts on the matter.

I just hope that people don't get caught up in Metroid needing another rep, especially "in place" of Ridley. The last thing we need is a D-list hunter added to Smash Bros., not that anyone at Nintendo would ever go for it.

As long as people remember that we play as the characters, and not the other information about them, we're good.

Like, obviously characters get chosen if they have popularity/demand with them and they provide something unique. It's the factors that practically guarantee Inklings for Smash 5 should they not be added as DLC. Characters don't get added to fill some arbitrary series slot. It's not like, "Let's add a Metroid character!". It's, "What characters make sense and provide something cool? Who's popular in Nintendo right now? Who are they pushing?"

It's not, "Oh, Ridley didn't pan out. Let's add Sylux!". I hate when people insinuate that series are suddenly entitled to certain characters.

 

[Deleted member]

Fair point. As far as Ridley is concerned, it should be noted that Ridley is not even close to the same case as other characters.

Characters are changed if the alterations that are planned aren't massive, base character altering changes. For example, giving Zero Suit Samus jet boots doesn't alter the character, whereas Ridley being shrunk down to be the same height as Samus is...just strange. I mean I get that people like Ridley. I like the character myself. But to dismiss things that conflict with him being a playable character...I don't know man.

With Olimar being a tiny space adventurer, he's the only one from his respective series. It seems to me that, within series, the characters are pretty evenly matched up with each other. That's why it isn't as important to compare Ridley to Bowser as it would be to compare his size in Smash to Samus.

The only time Ridley has been small in Metroid is the original game, and that was because of the early hardware. In any other game, Ridley has become a much larger beast. The size he maintains in Smash currently is a pretty accurate size all things considered.

I suppose a certain way to justify this logic is to take other "boss" characters and justify their size in Smash (or hypothetical sizes). If for example, Metal Face were shrunk down to be a much smaller size, it wouldn't make any sense. Same with Yellow Devil.

People will never give up on Ridley. I'm not one to say that they should. People will want what they want. I just feel that if size was important to Sakurai in his decision making process, then it's important. What fans should aim to do is show a logical unbiased way in which Ridley's size does not interfere with his playability, or keeping him accurate to his character.

Otherwise I'll just always play devil's advocate

The idea isn't so much that Ridley should be the same size as Samus or close to her size (which, I agree, would be too much of a change), but that Ridley should just be not as big as he is shown in Brawl or Smash 4.
That, I see no issue with as long as it's possible to keep him at a larger size (i.e. bigger than Bowser or DK) while still being balanced as a fighter.
With the Other M model....that's rather difficult to do without adjusting aspects of his design outside of scaling him down, and I can see where Sakurai would find issue with doing that.
If size was the sole issue, it wouldn't really be an issue considering that Ganondorf and Palutena were scaled down from their appearances in comparison to Link and Pit and how the 1ft 4in Pikachu compares to the 5ft 7in Charizard in Smash.
But size wasn't the only issue.

 

[SmashChu]

Ignoring the fact that VGCharts isn't reliable, that's still ignoring quite a bit about each of their situations. The two games are selling on two completely different systems with each having different sales for each game to work with, so there's going to be a different ratio in how many games one sold compared to the other. OoT sold 7/32, that's 21% of the systems sold, WW sold 4/21, that's 19% of systems sold. That's a 2% drop in regards to their respective sales of each game, a drop yes, but still comparatively not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. This also ignores the fact that MM sold 3.36 million on the N64 going by wikipedia, so either WW improved on the previous entry's sales or it did just below it despite being on a worse selling system.

Regardless, neither WW or MM, OoT, etc. Are seen as failures by Nintendo anyway.

The first problem with your analysis is you are using attach rates. The ratio tells us how much te game sold relative to the console, or, how many people who owned the console bought the game. This is fine, but there are three major problems using this ratio. First, we are looking at trends and the attach rate is not a trend indicator. Second, attach rate assumes consumers buy consoles and then make decisions for the games they buy. The truth is it's the other way around. Consumers will usually buy a console for a game. Third, attach rates become meaningless when the system is successful because there are more games available and more reason to buy the console.

You have to look at it like this: Ocarina of Time sold over 7 million, so, of course, 7 million people bought it. But Wind Waker sold 3 million (we'll use this for arguments sake). So 4 million people didn't buy the game. They were lost for whatever reason. We can't ignore the change in people buying the games. Smash brothers and Metroid were the only series on the Gamecube that saw improvement in sales. So its clear that system sales aren't everything. And there has to be something that explains why the system sold so poorly. If you want to know why a game did well or not, look at the game. Wind Waker was heavily ridiculed by fans and the press for its look. While it did get high review scores, the sales of the game suffered and wouldn't return until Twilight Princess. "But that was only because of the Wii." Skyward Sword sold about what Wind Waker did, so the system isn't to blame. In fact, we see somewhat of a pattern with sales. If the game emulates a Wind Waker style, sales are poor. When it emulates OoT, sales are good.

 

[Ura]

My wishlist for DLC that includes characters and old stages I want to see return. The characters in the front row are pre-planned DLC while the ones on the row below are Smash Ballot DLC. Overall, I would say that this DLC list is well rounded as to getting characters from a wide variety of series that are highly requested.

Also, the stages on the left are for the 3DS and the ones on the right are for the Wii U. I forgot to add in Rainbow Cruise BTW.

Spoiler

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I've been thinking...The only difference between Mario and Luigi in Super Smash Bros. was physics. Now Luigi is his own character. If Dark Pit were to join smash 5, do you guys think he would be decloned some? I don't think it would come to the point of being as unique as Lucas, but I can see him becoming more power based than Pit.

Dream Rosters? Here is mine:
Every playable character in a previous game. (Samus and Zero Suit Samus become swappable once again, as it doesn't affect their competitive gameplay.(No suit pieces though), Pokémon trainer has three new Pokémon)
Every character planned for a previous game.
Toad/Toadette as swappable characters.
Bandana Dee
Magolor (Don't remember how to spell his name.)
King Boo
Ashley
Samus and Zero Suit Samus become swappable once again, as it doesn't affect their competitive gameplay.(No suit pieces though)
Proto Man
Zero
Tron (from the Mega Man series. NOT THE MOVIE!)
Dillon
Ganon
Wolf Link & Midna
Toon Zelda/ Toon Sheik as swappables.
Sukapon
Ray Mk III
Shovel Knight
Black Mage
Amaterasu (I haven't the slightest idea why her name is so much bigger than the others. )
Nintendog (w/ cat alt)
Isaac
Lloyd
Chibi-Robo
Parappa (don't judge me)
Toro (The jury is still out on him, but still, don't judge me)
Bomberman
Marshal
Rayman
Boy & Blob
Exitebiker
Kamek
Shadow (the jury is still out on him)
Primid
Tails

 

[Burruni]

I've been thinking...The only difference between Mario and Luigi in Super Smash Bros. was physics. Now Luigi is his own character. If Dark Pit were to join smash 5, do you guys think he would be decloned some? I don't think it would come to the point of being as unique as Lucas, but I can see him becoming more power based than Pit.

Dream Rosters? Here is mine:
Every playable character in a previous game. (Samus and Zero Suit Samus become swappable once again, as it doesn't affect their competitive gameplay.(No suit pieces though), Pokémon trainer has three new Pokémon)
Every character planned for a previous game.
Toad/Toadette as swappable characters.
Bandana Dee
Magolor (Don't remember how to spell his name.)
King Boo
Ashley
Samus and Zero Suit Samus become swappable once again, as it doesn't affect their competitive gameplay.(No suit pieces though)
Proto Man
Zero
Tron (from the Mega Man series. NOT THE MOVIE!)
Dillon
Ganon
Wolf Link & Midna
Toon Zelda/ Toon Sheik as swappables.
Sukapon
Ray Mk III
Shovel Knight
Black Mage
Amaterasu (I haven't the slightest idea why her name is so much bigger than the others. )
Nintendog (w/ cat alt)
Isaac
Lloyd
Chibi-Robo
Parappa (don't judge me)
Toro (The jury is still out on him, but still, don't judge me)
Bomberman
Marshal
Rayman
Boy & Blob
Exitebiker
Kamek
Shadow (the jury is still out on him)
Primid

I'm... just going to note one thing, one major thing wrong with this even as a dream.

UNLESS YOU MEAN SOMEONE ELSE, Toro refers to the JAPAN EXCLUSIVE MASCOT FOR SONY whose first time even sony fans had seen him was in a shocking choice in PSASBR.
There... isn't a jury to be out.
4 Megaman Characters, things like that... somewhat possible to overlook. Exclusives for another company are a dead no.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I'm... just going to note one thing, one major thing wrong with this even as a dream.

UNLESS YOU MEAN SOMEONE ELSE, Toro refers to the JAPAN EXCLUSIVE MASCOT FOR SONY whose first time even sony fans had seen him was in a shocking choice in PSASBR.
There... isn't a jury to be out.

(Shrugs) what can I say. I like cute things. (Though not enough to steal gimmick uniqueness from Amaterasu, that's why I'm not sure)

 

[StormC]

This is what I was talking about when I said a "dream" roster of mine would be super indulgent and silly. I mean, I'd rather play as Goku than any Fire Emblem character, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

This is what I was talking about when I said a "dream" roster of mine would be super indulgent and silly. I mean, I'd rather play as Goku than any Fire Emblem character, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

I'm aloud to like Toro aren't I? heh heh.
I'd love to play as Syaoran but I'll leave the anime characters to ssf2.

 

[Deleted member]

Why want any animoo characters, when you could want the superior choice from Japanese media?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Why want any animoo characters, when you could want the superior choice from Japanese media?

Kamen Rider Drive plz. Final Smash: Using Type Tridoron to shoot his car at his enemies out a laser cannon

 

[StormC]

No joke, Kamen Rider 1 would be hype as hell.

Why want any animoo characters, when you could want the superior choice from Japanese media?

Goku is a manga character.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

No joke, Kamen Rider 1 would be hype as hell.



Goku is a manga character.

Technically we have Ichigo's moves The original was cheesy from what I saw and heard. 'Rider Reversal' is a thing

no. He's a magna character

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

After Issac the other Golden Sun character I'd like to see is Alex, what a kickass villain

You and I have the right mind, dear friend. Just imagine all the fans whining about too many blue haired fighters in the roster. Delicious.

Why want any animoo characters, when you could want the superior choice from Japanese media?

As long as his Victory Dance is there and he still has his gravity defying drop kick, I can easily get behind his inclusion.

 

[Coricus]

So. . .dream roster?

I don't have enough characters I want to properly make one, so have my roster-roster instead. If you want my dream roster, just add Tails.

Spoiler

All Smash 4 characters+ Ice Climbers and Wolf (not listing my cuts this time)

K. Rool, Dixie, Pauline

Toad, Waluigi, Daisy

Ridley (his fans are vocal enough...)

Isaac

Inkling

Gen 8 Pokemon

Whoops I forgot the rest.
Basically this is some of my "likely character pool".

 

[BluePikmin11]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/607910067447472129

Masahiro Sakurai will host a video presentation about #SmashBros on 6/14 at 7:40 a.m. PT. You don’t want to miss it! http://t.co/MM4LcYwsR0

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 8, 2015

GET HYPED!

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/607910067447472129

Masahiro Sakurai will host a video presentation about #SmashBros on 6/14 at 7:40 a.m. PT. You don’t want to miss it! http://t.co/MM4LcYwsR0

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 8, 2015

GET HYPED!

OH SNAP DADDY!

First Lucas on the 14th, and now another Smash Direct. I thought we wouldn't get another Smash related direct after last year's.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/607910067447472129

Masahiro Sakurai will host a video presentation about #SmashBros on 6/14 at 7:40 a.m. PT. You don’t want to miss it! http://t.co/MM4LcYwsR0

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 8, 2015

GET HYPED!

Calling it, Either Royu or Wolf

 

[Aetheri]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/607910067447472129

Masahiro Sakurai will host a video presentation about #SmashBros on 6/14 at 7:40 a.m. PT. You don’t want to miss it! http://t.co/MM4LcYwsR0

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 8, 2015

GET HYPED!

Prepare Yourselves!!

 

[Starphoenix]

I'll say it again, I expect to see Nintendo vs Capcom at E3, think of how awesome that would be!

Oh I would absolutely love it, but the game could potentially be a major money pit for Capcom. There are several problems I can think of right away:

1. Licensing costs: We've heard from Sakurai how difficult it is to bring all of these different Nintendo series together with each subsidiary having their own say on what is or is not comfortable. Now you are throwing in a whole different company with their own set of subsidiaries.

2. Sales: If it is going to be a strictly Wii U title it will fail. Badly. Not only do you have arguably the weakest console on the market, but your typical core 2D fighting demographic is not going to be represented nearly enough to break even on the title. Best bet would be to go the 3DS/Wii U route, creating its own sets of challenges.

3. Competition: NvC will invariably suffer some form of competition from Super Smash Bros. Less astute people will see it as a retread of an existing game with random Capcom characters thrown in -- it isn't like that many Capcom titles have made a name for themselves on Nintendo platforms.


Personally I'd love the game, but I just don't see it as being likely. Not for the Wii U generation anyways.

 

[Kenith]

Nintendo vs Bandai Namco (With SoulCalibur's armor-breaking mechanic + Pac-Man)

My dream game right here.

 

[Ura]

Do you guys think it's possible that we see both andrevealed at this direct and then later in the day see Ryu revealed at the NWC? That would be like the best day for Smash Bros.

Also, I think they can fit in reveal trailers for Wolf and Roy in the 20 minutes that they have to present. They can spend10 minutes talking about the content they announced before hand (Lucas, New Stages, Costumes) and then then have like 5 minutes each for reveal trailers for Wolf and Roy.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You know, we need FE ATS, here's my idea: Lords that don't get the chance to be playable, Alm, Sigurd, Leif, Ephraim/Eirika, Miciah, and likely Kamui. That could work well

 

[Ura]

What's ATS?