Character Discussion Thread

[Diddy Kong]

What I liked about SSE was the characterisation of Diddy. It gave me pre-buyout Rare vibes, even moreso than DKCR. So I'll give Sakurai props for that at the very least.

 

[PK_Knee]

The SSE really gave Lucas a chance to shine, I was happy about that.

What I liked about SSE was the characterisation of Diddy. It gave me pre-buyout Rare vibes, even moreso than DKCR. So I'll give Sakurai props for that at the very least.

 

[Burruni]

That reminds me, saw a Rhythm Paradise game, would have got it if I had a new system to play it on

I keep forgetting that the PAL name for it is Rhythm Paradise.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Welp.

I just learned that Rhythm Heaven: The Best + (3DS Title) uses a new MC that has little to no similarity to Marshal, the Glee Club members (aka the Chorus Kids), or the (I'm pretty sure) Nameless face character from Night Walk in the GBA title.

A little disappointing, but that also means I'll have to ultimately update my Rhythm Heaven "Mascot" character moveset once I can get some good footage of the new games.

Tebiri? That lion thing with a pink afro?

 

[Champ Gold]

When your favorite mode in Super Smash Bros. Brawl is despised.

It's mostly from being so long, you couldn't do a NG+ where you play through every scenario as a different character other than the characters required for that scene and look how much fans like Melee's Adventure mode compared to SSE.

Adventure mode can be replayed easily from all the unique and extra fights you can get like fighting Luigi instead of Mario, Falco gets payback for Fox, Fighting Kirbys with everyone's abilities and then a giant Kirby, fighting both Metal Mario & Luigi and them getting to fight Giga Bowser.

Something with Smash 4 can do better with the roster and the 8 player element.

 

[Burruni]

Tebiri? That lion thing with a pink afro?

Yes, and like how Marshal was an "update/tweak" to the Glee Club design, Tebiri seems to be a different version of the Clappy Trio or the Conductor from Glee Club

Beat the Beat!

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

The SSE really gave Lucas a chance to shine, I was happy about that.

And it gave Wario the chance to be a legit threatening villain for the first time since... since...

 

[Spazzy_D]

This might seem like a condescending question, but I only ask out of genuine curiosity:

What exactly is the purpose of rallying for unlikely characters? Perhaps for mainline Smash games I can understand it a bit more, but for DLC, character numbers are pretty limited. For me, if I want to spend hours of my time rallying for a DLC character, I think to myself "could this character conceivably be within the first ten DLC additions?" Supporting characters like K. Rool, Wolf, Isaac, Inkling, and Dixie make sense in this regard. But how fruitful is a DLC campaign for someone like Travis Touchdown going to be?

Sometimes you have characters that spike way up in popularity suddenly, like Shovel Knight, but those are very rare and incidental (and his popularity has pretty much totally died out by now). If you enjoy discussing the character and speculating about what they would look like in Smash, that's fine, but I couldn't imagine trying to run a thread and Twitter account for these types of characters on a daily basis. It'd be exhausting and mostly unproductive. Most of the time, either the character is popular and/or likely or not; very few are going to be on the fence.

The Poll is more of a suggestion box then a legitimate poll. At the end of the day, Sakurai is going to pick characters that he feels fit in Smash. If a popular character doesn't fit his vision (Waluigi, Ridley, etc.) then all the votes in the world aren't going to help.

This is why, if you really do support a character, you want to rally around them and get them enough votes to be noticed. Being noticed is what really matters here.

Also, I like Assist Trophies, just throwing that out there. Metal Face is also a great Boss Hazard.... all the other ones are way too invasive and make their stages almost unplayable.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

It's mostly from being so long, you couldn't do a NG+ where you play through every scenario as a different character other than the characters required for that scene and look how much fans like Melee's Adventure mode compared to SSE.

...Actually...you Can.
You can play every level with whoever you want to once you beat Tabuu.
Everyone who didn't give up in the Great Maze knows this.

Start the story over on another save file you can even Change the scenario from as early as the Midair Stadium so you have other characters to play as and against down the road.

 

[Champ Gold]

I love Subspace for one thing

Saved Nintendo.

actually did damage to Tabuu first.

was the true hero of the Subspace Emissary.

Spoiler

Well other than , &

 

[PK_Knee]

And it gave Wario the chance to be a legit threatening villain for the first time since... since...

That's so true, it also made Ness and King DeDeDe important.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

That's so true, it also made Ness and King DeDeDe important.

I love Subspace for one thing

Saved Nintendo.

actually did damage to Tabuu first.

was the true hero of the Subspace Emissary.

Spoiler

Well other than , &

And

Spoiler

saved and instead of or ,

which i find hilarious.

 

[PK_Knee]

And

Spoiler

saved and instead of or ,

which i find hilarious.

and then Snake was removed, ;-;

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

and then Snake was removed, ;-;

Yeah... **** move Konami.
I was always afraid of this happening to Snake because he was a 3rd party, and it happened.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy resqueing DK with the help of Fox and Falco was the most beautiful thing ever though. I still love that scene where Diddy jumps out of Falco's Arwing to attack the Prymids guarding DK's throphy, ultimately doing all the hard work by himself. Most badass scene in all of the SSE.

 

[PK_Knee]

Yeah... **** move Konami.
I was always afraid of this happening to Snake because he was a 3rd party, and it happened.

and now I bet and will get caught. .-.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

Diddy resqueing DK with the help of Fox and Falco was the most beautiful thing ever though. I still love that scene where Diddy jumps out of Falco's Arwing to attack the Prymids guarding DK's throphy, ultimately doing all the hard work by himself. Most badass scene in all of the SSE.

That's a really fun debate.

There's a SSE Thread on this site right?

 

[Burruni]

That's a really fun debate.

There's a SSE Thread on this site right?

Check the Brawl section of "Smash Games." There probably is one.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

and now I bet and will get caught. .-.

Another thing I love SSE for: Bowser kidnaps Both of them at some point. Doesn't matter who you save, he'll get the other eventually.
He's just that good at what he does.

 

[PK_Knee]

Another thing I love SSE for: Bowser kidnaps Both of them at some point. Doesn't matter who you save, he'll get the other eventually.
He's just that good at what he does.

Bowser didn't even need the side smash.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I love Subspace for one thing

Saved Nintendo.

actually did damage to Tabuu first.

was the true hero of the Subspace Emissary.

Spoiler

Well other than , &

Actually everyone but Sonic is errelevant when you think about it. Sonic destroyed Tabuu at the last second (Yup, he was dead before the boss battle. So the whole fight was a paradox.) So as soon as the Subspace bomb blew up, Sonic was the only important character.

Diddy resqueing DK with the help of Fox and Falco was the most beautiful thing ever though. I still love that scene where Diddy jumps out of Falco's Arwing to attack the Prymids guarding DK's throphy, ultimately doing all the hard work by himself. Most badass scene in all of the SSE.

I like how they chained up Donkey Kong's trophy when the chains wouldn't have kept him in place had he not been in trophy form.... Maybe it was to keep him from sliding off.

 

[PK_Knee]

Actually everyone but Sonic is errelevant when you think about it. Sonic destroyed Tabuu at the last second (Yup, he was dead before the boss battle. So the whole fight was a paradox.) So as soon as the Subspace bomb blew up, Sonic was the only important character.

I like how they chained up Donkey Kong's trophy when the chains wouldn't have kept him in place had he not been in trophy form.... Maybe it was to keep him from sliding off.

I agree, he did nothing in SSE, you know it's sad when R.O.B. is more important than you...

 

[Champ Gold]

I do like the & team up. Best part of the game where Pikachu and Samus stomps in Ridley together.

Best OTP

 

[PK_Knee]

I do like the & team up. Best part of the game where Pikachu and Samus stomps in Ridley together.

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Best OTP

I liked the and combo, they are about the biggest opposites in the game.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

Check the Brawl section of "Smash Games." There probably is one.

Hey Everybody! Let's Go Show Our Love For the Subspace Emmisary Here! http://smashboards.com/threads/does-anyone-else-actually-enjoy-sse.280933/

 

[FalKoopa]

I agree, he did nothing in SSE, you know it's sad when R.O.B. is more important than you...

Sonic was probably a late addition to the story... just like the game.

 

[PK_Knee]

Sonic was probably a late addition to the story... just like the game.

was a late addition? I thought was...

 

[Burruni]

was a late addition? I thought was...

No. Snake was a fairly early choice because of a deal between Sakurai and Kojima specifically, after this was asked for in Brawl.

Sonic delayed the entire game by months because of how late Nintendo got the rights to use him in Brawl.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

was a late addition? I thought was...

Nope. It was Sonic. That's why he was a Deus ex Machina.

 

[PK_Knee]

No. Snake was a fairly early choice because of a deal between Sakurai and Kojima specifically, after this was asked for in Brawl.

Sonic delayed the entire game by months because of how late Nintendo got the rights to use him in Brawl.

Nope. It was Sonic. That's why he was a Deus ex Machina.

Oh, I didn't know that, thanks for informing me.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

was a late addition? I thought was...

No. Snake was a fairly early choice because of a deal between Sakurai and Kojima specifically, after this was asked for in Brawl.

Sonic delayed the entire game by months because of how late Nintendo got the rights to use him in Brawl.

Nope. It was Sonic. That's why he was a Deus ex Machina.

Seriously guys, there's a thread for this http://smashboards.com/threads/does-anyone-else-actually-enjoy-sse.280933/

 

[FalKoopa]

was a late addition? I thought was...

Snake was shown off in the first trailer. How could he be a late addition?

 

[PK_Knee]

Snake was shown off in the first trailer. How could he be a late addition?

I know he was in the first trailer, but the roster was chosen before the trailers were released. In fact, Greninja was planned to be put in smash before Pokemon X was released. All they had was concept art.

 

[FalKoopa]

I know he was in the first trailer, but the roster was chosen before the trailers were released. In fact, Greninja was planned to be put in smash before Pokemon X was released. All they had was concept art.

Development on Sonic began quite a while after the other characters though (excluding ), as Sega didn't initially agree to him appearing. He was the reason for one of the delays, iirc.

 

[Burruni]

I know he was in the first trailer, but the roster was chosen before the trailers were released. In fact, Greninja was planned to be put in smash before Pokemon X was released. All they had was concept art.

BRAWL characters were not entirely figured out before the first trailer.

SMASH 4 characters were. Excluding Icies cut due to technical issues and the 3 Alt Costume Promotions chosen late in production as a bonus project.

 

[Champ Gold]

I know he was in the first trailer, but the roster was chosen before the trailers were released. In fact, Greninja was planned to be put in smash before Pokemon X was released. All they had was concept art.

That's why I feel like Smash 4 development was much more planned than the 'go with the flow' pass three games did. Made all the partnerships with Sega and Capcom, planned out the roster from the get go with slight changes and went from there. ICs were the only casualties and they were mostly due to limitations. If anything Smash 4 would have been delayed anyhow if it was going Sakurai's way but Nintendo wanted out fast because how much of the train wreck the Wii U was at the start.

 

[Curious Villager]

Sonic was probably a late addition to the story... just like the game.

I wonder if before Sonic's inclusion. Jigglypuff was meant to be the one to break Tabuu's wings.....

 

[FalKoopa]

I wonder if before Sonic's inclusion. Jigglypuff was meant to be the one to break Tabuu's wings.....

I think it would have been Mewtwo, as he would probably get completed instead.

 

[Burruni]

I wonder if before Sonic's inclusion. Jigglypuff was meant to be the one to break Tabuu's wings.....

No.
She just floated up, landed rest, and the fight was over.
She was too OP for the fight so they removed her from SSE main story.

But seriously, I think the cutscene was more just everyone walking up determined, possibly with a scrolling view like the intro before choosing your fighters, before Sonic

 

[JaidynReiman]

I think it would have been Mewtwo, as he would probably get completed instead.

The Wings issue is a red herring. They used that as an excuse to justify Sonic getting a cutscene at the last second. I don't think anything would've changed had Sonic not been added, there just wouldn't have been an extra cutscene at that point.