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My brother and I were discussing the different types of clone character, and we've devised this essential "clone tier list" for defining the distinct strata of clones. Note that this is very much a subjective perspective and just something we did for fun. If you have any issues with it, please feel free to mention them, just remember that this is not intended to be an authentic quantification of a character's inherent "cloneness". In descending order, from least clone-like to most clone-like, we have:

F TIER - NOT EVEN A CLONE

Very vague similarities in certain areas (character model, a small number of standard attacks), but otherwise totally distinct. Not even remotely a clone, though sometimes jokingly or fallaciously compared to one.

:4jigglypuff: :4lucario:

E TIER - LUIGIFIED CLONE

A character that was originally a clone of an existed character, but whom has since evolved into their own character. They may possess certain similarities in terms of moveset elements (for example, Luigi's neutral-b and up-b are variations of Mario's), but their overall playstyle and stats are so vastly different as to render the term "clone" largely redundant. In short: once a clone, and a clone no longer.

:4luigi:

D TIER - SEMI-CLONE

A character with a few noticeable similarities to their original counterpart, yet whose differences are distinct enough to separate them and render them mostly unique. Most often, their specials are similar in concept to the original character's, yet they have different applications and almost all of their standard moves are unique or at least function differently. Their stats are also usually quite different.

:4lucas: :wolf:

C TIER - NOT QUITE FULL CLONE

A character whose overall moveset is very similar to the original character's, yet whose unique moves are enough to set them apart. Their specials are, for the most part, almost identical, and they have many standard moves of a similar nature as well; what moves they have of their own, while few, are nevertheless distinct enough to stand out of their own accord. Their stats are also usually very different, offering a totally unique playstyle.

:4ganondorf: :4falco:

B TIER - ALMOST FULL CLONE

A character whose moveset is almost identical to the original character's, with only a few key differences setting them apart. Essentially, they're somewhere in between C tier and A tier: not quite identical, yet not that different. Usually it's only a few subtle moveset differences and / or stat alterations that set them apart.

:4tlink: :4drmario: :roymelee: :pichumelee:

A TIER - FULL CLONE

A character whose abilities are only very subtly distinct from the original character's. Their moveset and stats are, overall, unaffected, with only very minor differences setting them apart.

:4lucina: :4darkpit:
The only thing I would bother trying to dispute is moving :4tlink: from B to C tier. While his special moves are all of the tier of "custom specials" in difference of Link's and his only unique differences in standard moves are 4/5 aerials and his throws, I feel like the difference in size, weight, and agility lends to :4tlink: being closer to :4ganondorf: (not quite :4falco:) in differentiation because of how he combats foes differently from his original form due to the difference in "statistics" while his moveset retains a fair amount of differences.

Edit: To elaborate, :4link: is done best as someone who wins the neutral game solely through mass usage to the poinit of abuse of his projectiles to wall out his opponent and brings things to a close with a good punish of his Smash attacks. Dumbed down, but I mean that he's a heavy zoning character that leans to being played akin to :4duckhunt:.
Because :4tlink:'s projectile game is worse due to the differences of the moves, he is someone who ends up playing a more direct fight with the benefit of his aerial power pulls out his projectiles when he is pinned in a defensive position of a match up or as a way to harass an opponent off-stage.

At least that is my opinion on how I believe their differences, while not as major in moveset but also in his statistics, have a significant impact on his playstyle. Ending the Edit and back to the normal post.

I've tried doing this myself, using the names "Why do you think this is a clone?" "Luigified" "Quasi-Clone." "Semi-Clone." "Clone" and "Character Variant."

Specifically defining the last as "A clone with near-if-not-entirely identical moveset and statistics whose differences are only properties to certain moves and has no differentiated fighting style from the character they are a clone from."
 
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I've tried doing this myself, using the names "Why do you think this is a clone?" "Luigified" "Quasi-Clone." "Semi-Clone." "Clone" and "Character Variant."

Specifically defining the last as "A clone with near-if-not-entirely identical moveset and statistics whose differences are only properties to certain moves and has no differentiated fighting style from the character they are a clone from."
Oh! I'm interested in your style to see the "clone" thing :3 Show me please.
 

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Tier 1: Character Variants ~ A clone character who shares has an identical moveset outside of properties of specific moves. Due to identical body type, and effectively identical statistics, they are more compared to a "Variant" to a character than a new fighter in their own right. :4lucina: & :4darkpit: (Past: :drmario:)

Tier 2: Clones ~ The base of which the term was designed for. A character who is incredibly similar to another and identical in a few to many places. Either due to a specific gimmick, unique differentiation in a select few moves, or mild combination of the two, they are certainly identifiable from the character they are a clone of as a seperate fighter mechanically but still end up having a near-identical playstyle. :4drmario:, :pichumelee:, & :roypm: (Past: :luigi64::falcomelee::younglinkmelee:)

Tier 3: Semi-Clones ~ An "upgraded" clone who has a noticeable amount of truly unique moves in their kit and a difference in general stastics, ends up having a noticably differentiated playstyle from the character they are a clone of despite still having a significant shared pool of moves. :4ganondorf::4falco:&:4tlink: (Past: :luigimelee:)

Tier 4: Quasi-Clones ~ An interesting case of a character of near-identical build and visually similar moveset in almost every position to the character they are a clone off, nearly every move is actually unique due to different properties that leaves the character to having a different take on the same moveset and be a significantly different fighter who is more of an optical illusion on how much they truly share. :4lucas:& :wolf:

Tier 5: Luigified ~ While once being a clone, the fighter has now become a damn-near entirely unique character in their own right and the moves happen to share some similarities more than being taken from another fighter's moveset. :4luigi:

Tier 6: Why even think this is a clone? ~ Happens to share a few traits or moves to a character while never being or have been an actual clone to a fighter by merit of Tier 1-4 qualification.:4jigglypuff: :4lucario: :4shulk: &:4myfriends:
 
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Burruni's guide to clones!


Tier 1: Character Variants ~ A clone character who shares has an identical moveset outside of properties of specific moves. Due to identical body type, and effectively identical statistics, they are more compared to a "Variant" to a character than a new fighter in their own right. :4lucina: & :4darkpit: (Past: :drmario:)

Tier 2: Clones ~ The base of which the term was designed for. A character who is incredibly similar to another and identical in a few to many places. Either due to a specific gimmick, unique differentiation in a select few moves, or mild combination of the two, they are certainly identifiable from the character they are a clone of as a seperate fighter mechanically but still end up having a near-identical playstyle. :4drmario:, :pichumelee:, & :roypm: (Past: :luigi64::falcomelee::younglinkmelee:)

Tier 3: Semi-Clones ~ An "upgraded" clone who has a noticeable amount of truly unique moves in their kit and a difference in general stastics, ends up having a noticably differentiated playstyle from the character they are a clone of despite still having a significant shared pool of moves. :4ganondorf::4falco:&:4tlink:

Tier 4: Quasi-Clones ~ An interesting case of a character of near-identical build and visually similar moveset in almost every position to the character they are a clone off, nearly every move is actually unique due to different properties that leaves the character to having a different take on the same moveset and be a significantly different fighter who is more of an optical illusion on how much they truly share. :4lucas: (Past: :wolf:)

Tier 5: Luigified ~ While once being a clone, the fighter has now become a damn-near entirely unique character in their own right and the moves happen to share some similarities more than being taken from another fighter's moveset. :4luigi:

Tier 6: Why even think this is a clone? ~ Happens to share a few traits or moves to a character while never being or have been an actual clone to a fighter by merit of Tier 1-4 qualification.
:4jigglypuff: :4lucario: :4shulk: &:4myfriends:
Looks good... But... "Ganondorf Melee" I think that he could enter in the "Past" section with the Clone Characters... Or what you think?

PD: With who character is Shulk compared?

PD2: Wolf in "Past" Quasi Clone?
 
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Looks good... But... "Ganondorf Melee" I think that he could enter in the "Past" section with the Clone Characters... Or what you think?

PD: With who character is Shulk compared?
Melee Ganon is teetering on that line of Clone and Semi-Clone because he had such a drastic distance in speed vs power to Captain Falcon that made him approach match-ups differently and the bread and butter of his D-Air, F-Air, and that FOREVER ICONIC U-TILT (alongside a single Jab instead of Captain's infinite punching jab) helped separate him out from Falcon more than Roy and Marth, who I feel were the second most differentiated pair of Clone and Origin in Melee. That's a bit of bias but that's how I feel. The change in Flame Choke and his Up-Smash were the things that set HIM over the edge without argument in Brawl.

As Ike is sometimes called a replacement/clone for Roy like Lucario is claimed for Mewtwo and Toon Link actually was for Young Link, Shulk is oddly sometimes called a clone of Marth in certain circles due to the similarities of the first swing of Air Slash to Dolphin Slash and the grounds of Counter. The blame of the "2ManySwordUsers" kind of general oversight.

Edit: "PD2: Wolf in 'Past' Quasi Clone?"
THAT'S AN ERROR.
 
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Either way, new 'Dorf is very much a different creature from Cap.

As is new Falco with regards to Fox.

They're very different.

The likes of Jigglypuff and Shulk aren't even remotely clone-like and yet it's good to make note of them for clarity's sake.
 

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So... random thought... how would you guys feel if in future games Fire Emblem lords were handled like the Koopalings? For example, instead of Marth's different colors, he'd just have seven other major characters from the series? In my head, I picture something along the lines of Marth, Lucina, Leif, Sigurd, Lyn, Seliph, Eirika, and one of the leading characters in Fire Emblem If. I could see Ike being handled in a similar fashion. Same moveset but a different character skin.
This would be a nice elegant solution, considering we'd be going into a potential Smash NX with five FE characters people will want to see return and an inevitable token new lord to throw in. People wouldn't be thrilled, but there's no easy way to handle the roster anyway, what with how large it's grown. Some of the cuts are going to sting a bit moving forward.
 

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Just out of my curiosity, predict your reaction(s) if the protagonists from the upcoming SMT x Fire Emblem game project became DLC fighters. Not saying I'd support them getting in. Assume DLCs do not affect the age ratings of the vanilla game and the characters do not take anyone's spots.

I'd probably go "Well, there are our WTF newcomers after Wii Fit Trainer." I'd get food and a drink while looking up the controversy they would start. Play online against that Pegasus Knight class girl and get butthurt if I lose and she listens to J-pop as a victory animation(Think "Aw, did I win?" butthurt level). Finally, surrender and buy them as DLC fighters.

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Just out of my curiosity, predict your reaction(s) if the protagonists from the upcoming SMT x Fire Emblem game project became DLC fighters. Not saying I'd support them getting in. Assume DLCs do not affect the age ratings of the vanilla game and the characters do not take anyone's spots.

I'd probably go "Well, there are our WTF newcomers after Wii Fit Trainer." I'd get food and a drink while looking up the controversy they would start. Play online against that Pegasus Knight class girl and get butthurt if I lose and she listens to J-pop as a victory animation(Think "Aw, did I win?" butthurt level). Finally, surrender and buy them as DLC fighters.

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I wouldn't complain really. But I would say, "A crossover character before a main series character?" Just saying, if they want to promote SMT X Fire Emblem, wouldn't a Shin Megami Tensei character make more sense for promotion?
 

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Just out of my curiosity, predict your reaction(s) if the protagonists from the upcoming SMT x Fire Emblem game project became DLC fighters. Not saying I'd support them getting in. Assume DLCs do not affect the age ratings of the vanilla game and the characters do not take anyone's spots.

I'd probably go "Well, there are our WTF newcomers after Wii Fit Trainer." I'd get food and a drink while looking up the controversy they would start. Play online against that Pegasus Knight class girl and get butthurt if I lose and she listens to J-pop as a victory animation(Think "Aw, did I win?" butthurt level). Finally, surrender and buy them as DLC fighters.

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Considering they're probably expys of Marth, Lucina, and Roy...

It would be kind of odd....
 

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So, with the Smash Ballot still raging on, I made a video of the top 5 characters that I think deserve to be in Smash 4. I'd really appreciate it if you guys watched it and let me know what Character YOU want to see the most! I always love to see other people's opinions!
 

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Yeah, I wouldn't want any of the SMT X FE characters to get in, they appear to be expies anyway. So there's really not much of a point.


Considering they're probably expys of Marth, Lucina, and Roy...

It would be kind of odd....
Though admittedly, all of these characters appear to be expies of characters from the original FE. People have noted that the Roy-like character is probably actually an expy of Cain, instead. Not sure who Kiria would be off; hairstyle wise she resembles Lyn, but that's the only similarity she has (she's a mage, and we see a bit of her personality through her actions and she's nothing like Lyn, honestly; at least from what we see of her, anyway).
 

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So, with the Smash Ballot still raging on, I made a video of the top 5 characters that I think deserve to be in Smash 4. I'd really appreciate it if you guys watched it and let me know what Character YOU want to see the most! I always love to see other people's opinions!
Who put advertisements on Smashboards??
 

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Just out of my curiosity, predict your reaction(s) if the protagonists from the upcoming SMT x Fire Emblem game project became DLC fighters. Not saying I'd support them getting in. Assume DLCs do not affect the age ratings of the vanilla game and the characters do not take anyone's spots.
Eh, no. That game is a still a bit of a sore spot for me. :urg:

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I'm still wondering what the game actually has to do with Fire Emblem. Yes, Tiki is there, but other than that...? Mecha Pegasi Riders? Guys on motor bikes acting like Paladins? Dating sim-like gameplay? I'm pretty confused with the game as well as it stands. It can either be the best thing ever, or the weirdest thing ever. And am personally having more of a gut feeling for the latter.
 

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I'm still wondering what the game actually has to do with Fire Emblem. Yes, Tiki is there, but other than that...? Mecha Pegasi Riders? Guys on motor bikes acting like Paladins? Dating sim-like gameplay? I'm pretty confused with the game as well as it stands. It can either be the best thing ever, or the weirdest thing ever. And am personally having more of a gut feeling for the latter.
The devs said it was hard to put FE in, probably easier to see when we get more info, judging from how long it took to get this info...Hoo boy
 

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The devs said it was hard to put FE in, probably easier to see when we get more info, judging from how long it took to get this info...Hoo boy
So they create a specific Fire Emblem crossover, only to realise a crossover with Fire Emblem doesn't really work?

What the poop?
 

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So they create a specific Fire Emblem crossover, only to realise a crossover with Fire Emblem doesn't really work?

What the poop?
We have Sakurai thinking Ridley with small wings won't work, we have people thinking IC can still work, we have Konami thinking cancelling one of their most anticipated games work, etc.

Made the Dillon thread on that social forum about predetermined characters @ A Distant Demon A Distant Demon is talking about
 

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I still don't get what prompted them to take this direction - considering it didn't got well with the fans of either SMT or FE (lol).

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i know multiple people who when they first saw the trailer thought that it meant smtXfe was canceled and they had moved onto a new project. Thats how bad the lack of FE is that they thought it was a completely different game. . .
 

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Just out of my curiosity, predict your reaction(s) if the protagonists from the upcoming SMT x Fire Emblem game project became DLC fighters. Not saying I'd support them getting in. Assume DLCs do not affect the age ratings of the vanilla game and the characters do not take anyone's spots.

I'd probably go "Well, there are our WTF newcomers after Wii Fit Trainer." I'd get food and a drink while looking up the controversy they would start. Play online against that Pegasus Knight class girl and get butthurt if I lose and she listens to J-pop as a victory animation(Think "Aw, did I win?" butthurt level). Finally, surrender and buy them as DLC fighters.

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Let's add both Lana AND the Pegasus Knight Girl since their inclusion would cause enough salt. Their tears would go well with this new Alice in Wonderland mug that my girlfriend got me. :lick:
 

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Just out of my curiosity, predict your reaction(s) if the protagonists from the upcoming SMT x Fire Emblem game project became DLC fighters. Not saying I'd support them getting in. Assume DLCs do not affect the age ratings of the vanilla game and the characters do not take anyone's spots.

I'd probably go "Well, there are our WTF newcomers after Wii Fit Trainer." I'd get food and a drink while looking up the controversy they would start. Play online against that Pegasus Knight class girl and get butthurt if I lose and she listens to J-pop as a victory animation(Think "Aw, did I win?" butthurt level). Finally, surrender and buy them as DLC fighters.

- Courtesy of Kamui Nohr, the user who may lower the quality of any thread he posts in.
SMT needs Jack Frost and Fire Emblem needs Anna. It's that friggin' simple xD

And I believe people have gone way too aggressive on the hate for the cross-over as is. Originally, most assume that it would be a more heavy FE game that happened to have SMT demons acting as enemies and some allies. A more direct cross-over like Hyrule Warriors where you just kinda skin over one series with another.
This game seems to be a more unique case where it's a bit more traditionally set as a JRPG and is blending concepts of the two where the FE aspects will seem to be "culture" of the demons and the jobs of the characters akin to a FF Tactics system and with certain iconic characters of the FE series appearing as specific characters of plot and SMT taking the entire two-sides of a coin world of real life and one that is more demon-run that are parallel and the cast dances between the two.
The major detorrents come from how little of these two games is blatant in the style of a cross-over they expected. The reliance on the Pop-Idol/Music theme to structure matters has legitimately turned off a sum of people for reasons I understand but don't agree. SMT diehards/elitists crying "This is gonna go waifu-sim Persona Casual" and Fire Emblem fans crying "This is gonna go waifu-sim Awakening Casual. Why the hell is this in modern day? WHY IS SHE HALF NAKED! WHY IS THERE TECHNOLOGY?!

We really need to see more to try to see what we have at hand here. A bit jarring in a single trailer from fairly narrow scopes fans of both sides had but it certainly is showing some promising ideas and a way to truly be unique while taking bits from both sides of the exchange. If we got a better idea of the gameplay instead of an almost whip-lash inducing trailer bouncing through story bits without narration, I don't think it would be getting the amount of raw heat from both fanbases.

The fact it took over 2 years to GET THAT TRAILER DIDN'T HELP EITHER.

Edit: Remember how unjarringly seemless it was when FE had a cross-over into another seires? :troll:
EXCEPT THIS WAS BY THE SAME MAKERS SO THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR HOW OFF-PUTTING THIS WAS.


Double Edit: SMT is a series where one of the most common demons is literally a phallus riding a chariot with a mouth under the tip and interpretation of an angel has her handcuffed, chained, wearing a blindfold, and wearing black leather straps that serve little more than to censor her while Satan flies around with 6 pairs of breasts while you humans struggle through a story aligning either for Law or Chaos only to learn that THERE IS NO RIGHT CHOICE. FE is a series with canon incest, cults killing off children as unholy sacrifices, and very blatant sprees of racism hunting down certain species with human identities and culture to the point of near-extinction.
Both of them are screwed up on their own merits, I'd be more surprise if a spin-off DIDN'T come off as jarring at first.
 
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Last Friday when I was at my grandma's house I saw a commercial for Splatoon on Nickelodeon I gasped real loudly in excitement! The reason I went over there is to watch my team play because the playoffs are going on in the NBA.
 

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Edit: Remember how unjarringly seemless it was when FE had a cross-over into another seires? :troll:
EXCEPT THIS WAS BY THE SAME MAKERS SO THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR HOW OFF-PUTTING THIS WAS.
I said this in another thread, but Robin looks so psychotic. :laugh:

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So... about a month until E3. Is everyone still in consensus that Ryu and Wolf are probably going to be the reveals? Personally, I hope it's three reveals, just to keep the tradition going for this game. E3 2013: Villager, Megaman, WFT. E3 2014: Mii, Palutena, and Pac-Man. E3 2015: Ryu, Wolf?, and _____? Another "Mewtwo is on the way" like reveal would be great. They already have more than a month's worth of data for the Smash Ballot so they should already have a good idea on who people want to see so a sneak peek at one of the top picks would be great.
 

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So... about a month until E3. Is everyone still in consensus that Ryu and Wolf are probably going to be the reveals? Personally, I hope it's three reveals, just to keep the tradition going for this game. E3 2013: Villager, Megaman, WFT. E3 2014: Mii, Palutena, and Pac-Man. E3 2015: Ryu, Wolf?, and _____? Another "Mewtwo is on the way" like reveal would be great. They already have more than a month's worth of data for the Smash Ballot so they should already have a good idea on who people want to see so a sneak peek at one of the top picks would be great.
Roy, Ryu and Wolf, hopefully.

A peek at the ballot results so far would be nice, though I don't expect it.

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Burruni's guide to clones!

Bottom Tier: Palette Swaps ~ These characters aren't even mentioned by name. In fact they only some what resemble the original character, and don't even have a different voice. Some customs are based off them, such as the Flower Bomber and Wolf Illusion.
(SSB4 :wolf:, Melee Wario, Dixie Kong and Princess Daisy)

Tier 0: Alternate Costumes ~ Characters that have identical stats, animations and hitboxes to the point that they are only costumes. and don't take a slot in the CSS! :4larry::4roy::4wendy::4iggy::4morton::4lemmy::4ludwig:&:4alph:

Tier 2: Character Variants ~ A clone character who shares has an identical moveset outside of properties of specific moves. Due to identical body type, and effectively identical statistics, they are more compared to a "Variant" to a character than a new fighter in their own right. :4lucina: & :4darkpit: (Past: :drmario:)

Tier 3: Clones ~ The base of which the term was designed for. A character who is incredibly similar to another and identical in a few to many places. Either due to a specific gimmick, unique differentiation in a select few moves, or mild combination of the two, they are certainly identifiable from the character they are a clone of as a seperate fighter mechanically but still end up having a near-identical playstyle. :4drmario:, :pichumelee:, & :roypm: (Past: :luigi64::falcomelee::younglinkmelee:)

Tier 4: Semi-Clones ~ An "upgraded" clone who has a noticeable amount of truly unique moves in their kit and a difference in general stastics, ends up having a noticably differentiated playstyle from the character they are a clone of despite still having a significant shared pool of moves. :4ganondorf::4falco:&:4tlink: (Past: :luigimelee:)

Tier 5: Quasi-Clones ~ An interesting case of a character of near-identical build and visually similar moveset in almost every position to the character they are a clone off, nearly every move is actually unique due to different properties that leaves the character to having a different take on the same moveset and be a significantly different fighter who is more of an optical illusion on how much they truly share. :4lucas:& :wolf:

Tier 6: Luigified ~ While once being a clone, the fighter has now become a damn-near entirely unique character in their own right and the moves happen to share some similarities more than being taken from another fighter's moveset. :4luigi:

Tier 7: Why even think this is a clone? ~ Happens to share a few traits or moves to a character while never being or have been an actual clone to a fighter by merit of Tier 1-4 qualification.:4jigglypuff: :4lucario: :4shulk: &:4myfriends:
Added two more tiers to this list, alternate costumes and palette swaps.
 
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So... about a month until E3. Is everyone still in consensus that Ryu and Wolf are probably going to be the reveals? Personally, I hope it's three reveals, just to keep the tradition going for this game. E3 2013: Villager, Megaman, WFT. E3 2014: Mii, Palutena, and Pac-Man. E3 2015: Ryu, Wolf?, and _____? Another "Mewtwo is on the way" like reveal would be great. They already have more than a month's worth of data for the Smash Ballot so they should already have a good idea on who people want to see so a sneak peek at one of the top picks would be great.
I'm in agreement as well. Ryu, Wolf, and one Nintendo newcomer. Pls be K. Rool or Isaac. :D
 

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Just out of my curiosity, predict your reaction(s) if the protagonists from the upcoming SMT x Fire Emblem game project became DLC fighters. Not saying I'd support them getting in. Assume DLCs do not affect the age ratings of the vanilla game and the characters do not take anyone's spots.

I'd probably go "Well, there are our WTF newcomers after Wii Fit Trainer." I'd get food and a drink while looking up the controversy they would start. Play online against that Pegasus Knight class girl and get butthurt if I lose and she listens to J-pop as a victory animation(Think "Aw, did I win?" butthurt level). Finally, surrender and buy them as DLC fighters.

- Courtesy of Kamui Nohr, the user who may lower the quality of any thread he posts in.
I love your posts man.
 

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Disclaimer: I do not hate SMTxFE, but am interested, it's like Persona apparantly, and I've yet to play Persona
Persona is far from what #FE is. Even if people start using Dancing All Night as an excuse 1)It's a spinoff and 2) This is a last ditch cash in.


Try playing a mainline Persona game and you'll see how this doesn't compare. It's gonna be like Hyper Dimension Neptunia except good and not horrible character design.
 

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Persona is far from what #FE is. Even if people start using Dancing All Night as an excuse 1)It's a spinoff and 2) This is a last ditch cash in.


Try playing a mainline Persona game and you'll see how this doesn't compare. It's gonna be like Hyper Dimension Neptunia except good and not horrible character design.
Once again, we really don't have a good idea of what it is because all we have is the minimal amount within that trailer.

So thus we don't know what it is and may make attempts on what it can be but the Persona formula (particularly of 3-5) of a fairly calm daily life that is thrown out the window by the darker, more demon-ridden mirror of the world that makes up the actual RPG functioning of the game seems quite on par of what we have present in SMT x FE. Claiming that Dancing All Night is a core part for Persona would be equal of saying judge how a Mario game plays because of Mario Kart.

(Also the fact that the Neptunia series has made a collection of solid while never being particularly stellar games that has sustained the number of titles it holds today clearly means that there is a market for it even if you're not part of it)
 
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