Character Discussion Thread

[DustyPumpkin]

Hey if you Put the some of the European and the US titles of Characters from the Boxing Ring together you can get cool announcements

He Smashes Bricks with His Fists, It's Mr. Video Game Himself, MARIOOOOOOO

It's The Sleepy Singer, The Delightful Balloon Pokémon, JIGGLYPUUUUUUUUFF

A Warrior from a Doomed Future, She's the Defiant of Destiny, LUCINAAAAAAAAA

The Only Numbers He Knows Are "One-Two", It's Bruiser from the Bronx, LITTLLLLE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACC

This Visionary Has Visions of Victory, say hello to, SHUUUUUUUUULK

Low Armour, High Agility, The Warrior Within,It's ZERO. SUIT SAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSS

She'll Make You Feel the Burn! It's the Yoga Warrior / He'll Blast Your Core! The BMI Bandit - WII.FIT. TRAINEEEEEEEEEER

The Tome-Toting Strategist, The Tactician Magician, It's ROBIIIIIIIIIIIIIN (and Chroooom)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

King K. Rool is a cut character?
You learn something new every day.

He was playable in Super Smash Bros Foodfight MLG Edition don't you know
K.Rool hype has never been more real

 

[Kenith]

Here's King K. Rool's splash text card by the by.

Looks fantastic. Like the real deal, I'd say.
Here's the speed paint video, it someone wants to make a gif of it:

Spoiler

 

[Burruni]

Gonna be honest.

I don't have a particular "want" for him to be in but I a) believe he has been due an inclusion b) respect his fans well enough and c) am eager to see what they do with his moveset.

I can't help but see it to be a motley arrangement from his various villanous roles, namely in the 3 DKC games and 64 because Donkey Konga already has everything about it handled by 's final smash and everyone forgets that King of Swing and Barrel Blast exist.

Like... Neutral B being his blunderbuss (akin to with 's possible overcharge), Side B being his Crown Boomerang, Up B being a limited flight Baron K Roolsentein Jetpack, and Down B being a butt stomp from his Boxing Fight.

TL;DR: King K. Rool is a character I expect and can get a bit hyped for. His kit will be probably a pretty projectile-heavy.... heavyweight based on all of his appearances mixed into one kit.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Smashified did King K. Rool.

This one almost looks legit. I love it.

EDIT: Okay, my bad. I didn't know Smashified was multiple people now.
This art was by someone else. >.>

Video source plz, I want to see the process required to make it.

Derp: I was too slow.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Honestly, K.Rool is more hype than Mega Man for me, and I'm a nut for the classic series, I even liked his moveset instead of whining about it first

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Fully evolved pokemon tend to be the most popular in a line and the most important overall. How is that logic flawed? Also lol non-popular pokemon mega evolve as well to make them more viable to play with, for example no cares about Glaie, Medicham, Lopunny, Banette, Altaria, Absol, or Abmasnow,yet they got mega evolutions. On top of them Charizard and Mewtwo stand out because they got two.

Proves my point that Mega Evolutions mean jack squat to a Pokémons overall importance.

 

[Kenith]

I'm not a DKC fan but I feel like I need to live long enough to see King K. Rool and Isaac in Smash Bros.
Speaking of which, I can't wait for them to draw Isaac.

 

[ZeldaFan01]

To see Dixie Kong and King K. Rool officially join SSB4..That'll be the day...

 

[Pakky]

Pakky, Lucas is less relevant in the video game industry than my belly button, that's why I'm done with you and put you on ignore for now

So you don't know about mobs of fans breaking down Reggie's door to localize mother 3? Really? And you're a child so I'm done as well.

 

[Pakky]

Proves my point that Mega Evolutions mean jack squat to a Pokémons overall importance.

It does mean something otherwise the aforementioned two wouldn't of gotten two.

 

[ZeldaMaster]

So everyone cares about Roy, Wolf, and Snake. How come there's no love for IC's, Squirtle, and Ivysaur?

 

[Pakky]

So everyone cares about Roy, Wolf, and Snake. How come there's no love for IC's, Squirtle, and Ivysaur?

Because they don't matter in the slightest.

 

[Kenith]

So everyone cares about Roy, Wolf, and Snake. How come there's no love for IC's, Squirtle, and Ivysaur?

Hm? I really want Ice Climbers back. The only veteran I truly care about actually.
Less so Squirtle and Ivysaur though...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So everyone cares about Roy, Wolf, and Snake. How come there's no love for IC's, Squirtle, and Ivysaur?

There is love for them, only technical difficulties and a vocal detractor

 

[Burruni]

So everyone cares about Roy, Wolf, and Snake. How come there's no love for IC's, Squirtle, and Ivysaur?

People don't actively campaign as hard for Icies because their issue is a matter of the engine. The 3DS can't handle Nana's AI. Pikmin run at half of the speed of fighters (at best) and are very low poly and Luma is just a detached part of Rosalina's inputs with no seperate AI to it other than it's meandering back to her after Luma Shot.

Squirtle and Ivysaur supporters are quiet because they don't expect 2 characters of the same series as DLC and really overshadows Squirtle.

Edit:

I'm not a DKC fan but I feel like I need to live long enough to see King K. Rool and Isaac in Smash Bros.
Speaking of which, I can't wait for them to draw Isaac.

BANDANA DEE FIRST.

 

[Pakky]

Squirtle and Ivysaur supporters are quiet because they don't expect 2 characters of the same series as DLC and really overshadows Squirtle.

Thank you.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

It does mean something otherwise the aforementioned two wouldn't of gotten two.

And it means kinda nothing or else Abomasnow wouldn't have gotten one.

 

[Pakky]

And it means kinda nothing or else Abomasnow wouldn't have gotten one.

Well it means something on top of all the other accolades the aforementioned pokemon have. Also Lucario's has lore seniority when it comes to his. So in terms of story and the series megas do matter, and their brownie points for getting into smash.

Ivy and Squirts are unevolved kids so they don't get any until they grow up.

 

[Kenith]

I don't see the appeal of Bandana Dee at all, sorry.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I don't see the appeal of Bandana Dee at all, sorry.

Spear wielder
Would have all 4 main characters
cute
This is the general reason for now

 

[Pakky]

I don't see the appeal of Bandana Dee at all, sorry.

Well he as been in a multitude of games, and his inclusion would bring a spear using character to smash

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Well it means something on top of all the other accolades the aforementioned pokemon have. Also Lucario's has lore seniority when it comes to his. So in terms of story and the series megas do matter, and their brownie points for getting into smash.

Ivy and Squirts are unevolved kids so they don't get any until they grow up.

And another reason why Mega Evolutions don't gauge importance.
Only fully evolved ones get them.

 

[Kenith]

Spear wielder
Would have all 4 main characters
cute
This is the general reason for now

No, I mean I just don't see his appeal as a character in Smash Bros.

 

[Pakky]

And another reason why Mega Evolutions don't gauge importance.
Only fully evolved ones get them.

How does that make any sense whatsoever? Explain. Why wouldn't fully developed being get a chance to go one more step? Lower forms have growing to do, therefore this forced extra step wouldn't make sense for them to have.

That's like going to college when you're really suppose to be in daycare.

 

[Curious Villager]

I can kinda see Mega evolutions losing their "specialness" if you will at some point in the future once more and more Pokemon get them. I can imagine people going all "Oh, Zoroark/Deoxys/Raichu got a Mega Evolution? Lol that's so 2013!"

 

[JamesDNaux]

Spear wielder
Would have all 4 main characters
cute
This is the general reason for now

But we already have all three main characters.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

No, I mean I just don't see his appeal as a character in Smash Bros.

Eh, can't blame you really, he's pretty comparable to Toad but unlike Toad this one has an identity. I feel similar to Waluigi so again, can't blame you. Besides, it's just a video game character, it isn't right or wrong to have an opinion on him

But we already have all three main characters.

Bandana Dee has appeared in more games recently than Meta Knight, not to mention he pulled a Rosalina to go from side character to main character

 

[Pakky]

Eh, can't blame you really, he's pretty comparable to Toad but unlike Toad this one has an identity. I feel similar to Waluigi so again, can't blame you. Besides, it's just a video game character, it isn't right or wrong to have an opinion on him

So its wrong for me to have an opinion about Ivy and Squirts though? Okay

 

[WeirdChillFever]

How does that make any sense whatsoever? Explain.

Mega Evolutions are basically the final final evolution, meaning that the Pokémon who are not fully evolved don't get them.
This means that if Mega Evolution gauge importance, only full growns are in the running for them.

Basically, if baby Pokémom could get Mega Evolutions, Squirtle and Ivysaur could have gotten two too.

Also, Pikachu has no Mega Evolution, , reinforcing the point Mega Evolutions are only awared to full growns, which gives a incomplete impression of what Pokémon are popular as very popular or outright iconic Pokémon are left out because they are not in their final forms.

 

[Pakky]

I can kinda see Mega evolutions losing their "specialness" if you will at some point in the future once more and more Pokemon get them. I can imagine people going all "Oh, Zoroark/Deoxys/Raichu got a Mega Evolution? Lol that's so 2013!"

True but the multiple megas club I feel will stay small and promote importance to those who have more than one. Also megas aren't the only way to play, for some pokemon its just more viable to mega evolve than not.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

As for the K. Rool render, it looks really nice and even has a Kremling Kampainger shoutout in the commentary.

 

[memoryman3]

Hey if you Put the some of the European and the US titles of Characters from the Boxing Ring together you can get cool announcements

He Smashes Bricks with His Fists, It's Mr. Video Game Himself, MARIOOOOOOO

It's The Sleepy Singer, The Delightful Balloon Pokémon, JIGGLYPUUUUUUUUFF

A Warrior from a Doomed Future, She's the Defiant of Destiny, LUCINAAAAAAAAA

The Only Numbers He Knows Are "One-Two", It's Bruiser from the Bronx, LITTLLLLE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACC

This Visionary Has Visions of Victory, say hello to, SHUUUUUUUUULK

Low Armour, High Agility, The Warrior Within,It's ZERO. SUIT SAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSS

She'll Make You Feel the Burn! It's the Yoga Warrior / He'll Blast Your Core! The BMI Bandit - WII.FIT. TRAINEEEEEEEEEER

The Tome-Toting Strategist, The Tactician Magician, It's ROBIIIIIIIIIIIIIN (and Chroooom)

It's the Blue Blur vs The BLUE BOMBER!!!!!!!!

 

[Pakky]

Mega Evolutions are basically the final final evolution, meaning that the Pokémon who are not fully evolved don't get them.
This means that if Mega Evolution gauge importance, only full growns are in the running for them.

Basically, if baby Pokémom could get Mega Evolutions, Squirtle and Ivysaur could have gotten two too.

Also, Pikachu has no Mega Evolution, , reinforcing the point Mega Evolutions are only awared to full growns, which gives a incomplete impression of what Pokémon are popular as very popular or outright iconic Pokémon are left out because they are not in their final forms.

Pikachu was a bad example because it gets everything else to make up for not having a mega.

Now let me break this down so you can understand my reasoning for calling mega evolution important towards those who are in smash.

.Lucario- His mega evolution is important because in lore he was the first to do it in the region of Kalos and I believe the first Pokemon discovered that could

.Mewtwo- Introduced the concept to the public and was the first mega evolution and has two

.Charizard- Has two, was the first starter/non-legendary to have two,and was the star of two specials in which he mega evolved

No matter how many pokemon get megas or multiple megas these things listed are historical points for the franchise and the characters, you can't take that away.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Being in multiple games is not an appealing factor just so you know.

 

[Pakky]

Being in multiple games is not an appealing factor just so you know.

Now how is that? Multiple appearances boost popularity

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Pikachu was a bad example because he get everything else to make up for not have a mega.

Now let me break this down so you can understand my reasoning for calling mega evolution important towards those who are in smash.

.Lucario- His mega evolution is important because in lore he was the first to do it in the region of Kalos and I believe the first Pokemon discovered that could

.Mewtwo- Introduced the concept to the public and was the first mega evolution and has two

.Charizard- Has two, was the first starter/non-legendary to have two,and was the star of two specials in which he mega evolved

No matter how many pokemon get megas or multiple megas these things listed are historical points for the franchise and the characters, you can't take that away.

And Pikachu, Jigglypuff and Greninja have none.

Mega Evolutions aren't needed to get in Smash, especially not when you're a veteran.

Mega Evolutiions give a general view on which Pokémon are important, but it's not the end factor.
There are some flaws in the system (Lots of outcasts, only full grown get them) that don't make it the all end as far as Smash characters go.

Deciding these is not as easy as counting their Mega Evolutions.
Pikachu has none, Abomasnow has one.

Same for others like Meowth, Jigglypuff and Zoroark.

EDIT: Don't forget the flood of Genwun Pokémon that have them.
As much as it hurts me, Pidgeot was, is and will never be important to Pokémon, despite having a Mega Man.

EDIT: I'm done with this.
Anybody wants to take over?

 

[Pakky]

And Pikachu, Jigglypuff and Greninja have none.

Mega Evolutions aren't needed to get in Smash, especially not when you're a veteran.

Mega Evolutiions give a general view on which Pokémon are important, but it's not the end factor.
There are some flaws in the system (Lots of outcasts, only full grown get them) that don't make it the all end as far as Smash characters go.

Deciding these is not as easy as counting there Mega Evolutions.
Pikachu has none, Abomasnow has one.

Same for others like Meowth, Jigglypuff and Zoroark.

I never said megas were needed to get into smash.... I said they add importance, I never said or meant to say that they were an end all be all but an addition to existing accolades.

Well it means something on top of all the other accolades the aforementioned pokemon have. Also Lucario's has lore seniority when it comes to his. So in terms of story and the series megas do matter, and their brownie points for getting into smash.

Ivy and Squirts are unevolved kids so they don't get any until they grow up.

Ivysaur and Squirtle simply lack what Pikachu, Greninja, and Jiggs have. Which is being important. Ivysaur especially because the middle stages save for one or two get no love overall. Squirts matters more but we have Greninja so.... Greninja had two (now one) signature moves on the release of X&Y and this was most likely planned out when he was on the drawing board because Mat block and Water shuriken are in his move set. Jiggs is a fairy which is recent and that matters.

 

[Pakky]

Well it means something on top of all the other accolades the aforementioned pokemon have. Also Lucario's has lore seniority when it comes to his. So in terms of story and the series megas do matter, and their brownie points for getting into smash.

Ivy and Squirts are unevolved kids so they don't get any until they grow up.

 

[Kenith]

You guys were talking about Mega Evolutions and someone brought up Absol.
Now I want Absol in Smash. The best potential Hoenn rep imo.