Character Discussion Thread

[A Distant Demon]

Galacta Knight's lance doesn't work the same way as Meta Knight's Galaxia, so having him be an alt would be illogical. Lances are spearing weapons, not slashing weapons, so to have a lance slash would be like having a hammer jab; an ineffective way of using a weapon. It would look ridiculous to have a spearing weapon used for slashing; hence why Galacta would necessitate his own slot.

Bandana Dee is generic in his design, only separated from his fellow Waddle Dees by a blue bandana. He's important, yes, but in terms of overall appearance Galacta Knight would be more unique than Bandana Dee would be. Plus Galacta Knight would at least be another villain for the roster (and the first Kirby villain on a Smash roster, since Dedede hardly counts as any sort of villain). Bandana Dee is basically just a Waddle Dee with a spear and a bandana. Maybe he could be a DLC fighter, but Galacta Knight would be of higher priority to me than Bandana Dee because Galacta Knight is overall more unique than Dee is.

As important as Bandana Dee is, I think Galacta Knight would be more visually distinct and interesting; so I'd rather him out of the two.

so galacta wins on being visually distinct? ooookay. well that makes no sense but whatever.

and looking at galacta knights battle in TTDL he very clearly slashes with his lance as if it was a sword. so there goes that argument


also generic "muh villains"

 

[Wintropy]

Every time @ A Distant Demon posts in this thread my soul slowclaps a little.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I've seen a lance wielder (Kamen Rider Baron's Banaspear) outright swing his spear to whack people. I'd love Galacta Knight but I believe we should get the main cast before villains

 

[A Distant Demon]

Every time @ A Distant Demon posts in this thread my soul slowclaps a little.

I really love this video

You have confused me again. Exactly why? did you have to post that wonder red moveset? if i Ever finish mine it's guaranteed to pale in comparison

 

[Wintropy]

I really love this video

You have confused me again. Exactly why? did you have to post that wonder red moveset? if i Ever finish mine it's guaranteed to pale in comparison

Thorough, succinct points with rational observation and just a hint of sarcasm.

What's not to love~? :3

 

[pikazz]

I still think that Magolor would fit better than Bandana Dee.
but I do would love if Bandana Dee would be playable

 

[A Distant Demon]

Thorough, succinct points with rational observation and just a hint of sarcasm.

What's not to love~? :3

my strange desire to have Viridi in Smash. People hate KI right?


okay originally i was gonna make a joke about nintendo hating Kid icarus and there being no KI U 2. but it hit me that Kid Icarus Uprising for Wii U could be a thing

U= uprising. Kid Icarus U. It's a conspiracy I tell you!
im not crazy

and trust me if you saw me rant about one or two charactrs I would go from snarky to rude real fast. A few passing remarks have gotten me branded as a Geno hater and I haven't even gotten started. That's something to not love.

also I haven't voted for Tiki and dont plan to. something you certainly dont love.


this post got really weird really fast.

 

[ZeldaMaster]

I don't understand the support behind Shovel Knight and Shantae

 

[Kenith]

I don't understand the support behind Shovel Knight and Shantae

Shovel Knight: A fad because someone drew a really good Smash-inspired drawing of him
Shantae: Because WayForward is pushing for it.

Either way is likely not happening.
If I had to bet on either one getting in though, I would honestly guess Shantae.

 

[Wintropy]

my strange desire to have Viridi in Smash. People hate KI right?


okay originally i was gonna make a joke about nintendo hating Kid icarus and there being no KI U 2. but it hit me that Kid Icarus Uprising for Wii U could be a thing

U= uprising. Kid Icarus U. It's a conspiracy I tell you!
im not crazy

and trust me if you saw me rant about one or two charactrs I would go from snarky to rude real fast. A few passing remarks have gotten me branded as a Geno hater and I haven't even gotten started. That's something to not love.

also I haven't voted for Tiki and dont plan to. something you certainly dont love.

this post got really weird really fast.

Nah, I'd rather you vote for characters you actually like rather than being pressured to vote for the sake of it. I don't mind if you don't want to vote for Tiki. :3

I don't understand the support behind Shovel Knight and Shantae

They're popular indie characters with strong ties to Nintendo, great designs, immense moveset potential and stellar games.

 

[BluePikmin11]

@ ZeldaMaster
Do the research before you speak.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I don't understand the support behind Shovel Knight and Shantae

Shovel Knight and Shantae were part of a trio of characters that are basically a retro revival as I have dubbed it.
(Mighty No. 9 is the other)

basically attempting to get that old nostalgia feel from games like mega man castlevania etc. Oh, not in that way?


A bit of bandwagoning, reddit's questionable tastes, and the fact there games are well beloved and hyped. But they have almost no chance. Especially shovel knight who isn't nintendo exclusive or even been released in Japan. (shantae isnt nintendo exclusive either but to my knowledge its just PC.)

I really need to play both titles :/

@ ZeldaMaster
Do the research before you speak.

ehh? he doesnt get why indie titles are so hyped for especially one hitting the top of a poll. An entirely logical conclusion and one I have also come to.

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Banjo Kazooie, Shantae, and Mighty No 9 are some of the stupidest character choices for various reasons. Shovel Knight is the only one that kind of makes sense, kind of....

 

[FalKoopa]

I don't understand the support behind Shovel Knight and Shantae

Their parent companies have jumped on to the bandwagon, basically. Free publicity for them, while it encourages the fans.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Banjo Kazooie, Shantae, and Mighty No 9 are some of the stupidest character choices for various reasons. Shovel Knight is the only one that kind of makes sense, kind of....

Shantae's games were exclusive to Nintendo till Risky's revenge got ported and HalfGenie Hero being announced to be on other systems too

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Their parent companies have jumped on to the bandwagon, basically. Free publicity for them, while it encourages the fans.

Yeah, I guess so. I just feel like sometimes all this support for third parties are ruining what Smash Bros is, a NIntendo all star fighting game. Mega Man, Sonic, and Pac Man make sense. They are juggernauts. Shantae, Shovel Knight, Snake, and Banjo Kazooie do NOT have that same sort of special recognition and legacy.

 

[FalKoopa]

Banjo Kazooie

stupidest character choices

I fear for your safety.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Banjo Kazooie, Shantae, and Mighty No 9 are some of the stupidest character choices for various reasons. Shovel Knight is the only one that kind of makes sense, kind of....

Banjo and Kazooie are some of the worst?

What are you smoking? They were more important to Nintendo than PAC-MAN ever was.

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Banjo Kazooie is a Microsoft franchise. Who cares if Phil Spencer sent out a simple tweet? Do you know how much trouble it would be to get an IP from Nintendo's competition into Smash? That would be counter productive. They'd basically be giving Microsft free publicity, so when Rare finally makes a Banjo Kazooie game, every body will support the XBox One. That's why Banjo Kazooie is a stupid character choice, not because the characters themselves are stupid, but because it literally would not mae sense for them to appear in Smash

 

[A Distant Demon]

Banjo Kazooie, Shantae, and Mighty No 9 are some of the stupidest character choices for various reasons. Shovel Knight is the only one that kind of makes sense, kind of....

Shovel knight actually makes less sense than shantae on the grounds of not having a japanese release. I dont see a japanese company using a character not in Japan.
Beck (M#9) has very little support and shouldn't because

shantae is mostly from wayforward asking Nintendo and general support

banjo, while absolutely famous in his age is owned by a competitor. People are just overreacting about Xbox saying banjo being playable would be cool. It doesn't help he is dead. It isn't happening.

Also this is a nintendo site so logically people have played a nintendo game of Banjo's caliber.

Shantae is probably the most likely of those although that's .1% instead of .099%

Snake, .

here we go again.

Banjo Kazooie is Microsoft franchise. Who cares if Phil Spencer sent out a simple tweet? Do you know how much trouble it would be to get an IP from Nintendo's competition into Smash? That would be counter productive. They'd basically be giving Microsft free publicity, so when Rare finally makes a Banjo Kazooie game, every body will support the XBox One. That's why Banjo Kazooie is a stupid character choice, not because the characters themselves are stupid, but because it literally would not mae sense for them to appear in Smash

I agree with this whole-heartedly.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah, I guess so. I just feel like sometimes all this support for third parties are ruining what Smash Bros is, a NIntendo all star fighting game. Mega Man, Sonic, and Pac Man make sense. They are juggernauts. Shantae, Shovel Knight, Snake, and Banjo Kazooie do NOT have that same sort of special recognition and legacy.

I'll plau Devil's Advocate on a few
Shantae: A character who has appeared almost exclusively on Nintendo who is owned by a company that loves Nintendo and prioritizes them from what I've seen
Shovel Knight: Shovel Knight is basically THE Indie character
Snake: Veteran
Banjo: Banjo debuted on a Nintendo system and only his good games where on there other than ports

 

[Wintropy]

I was supporting Shantae and Shovel Knight before it was cool.

:3

 

[BluePikmin11]

Banjo Kazooie, Shantae, and Mighty No 9 are some of the stupidest character choices for various reasons. Shovel Knight is the only one that kind of makes sense, kind of....

What are the various reasons first of all?
You're just shouting out your opinion without explaining why.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I was supporting Shantae and Shovel Knight before it was cool.

:3

Shantae is the only third party I'd support other than maybe Quote

 

[Kalimdori]

I've always found the combination of "Nintendo Purism" and Smash Bros to be stupidly hilarious.

Who cares if the character is owned by someone else? If they have strong ties to Nintendo, are important characters, and their owners want to work with Nintendo to include them, what exactly is the problem? Yeah, Nintendo might not want to make a deal with them, but we don't know that, yet people are whining that the very idea of these characters is blasphemy. Are you that uncomfortable with other companies that you can't stand them "tainting" Nintendo franchises?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I was supporting Shantae and Shovel Knight before it was cool.

:3

Hey! No fair! I didn't even know about it before it was cool!

I've always found the combination of "Nintendo Purism" and Smash Bros to be stupidly hilarious.

Who cares if the character is owned by someone else? If they have strong ties to Nintendo, are important characters, and their owners want to work with Nintendo to include them, what exactly is the problem? Yeah, Nintendo might not want to make a deal with them, but we don't know that, yet people are whining that the very idea of these characters is blasphemy. Are you that uncomfortable with other companies that you can't stand them "tainting" Nintendo franchises?

Yeah. It's kinda sad that the only argument against Banjo and Kazooie is "cause Microsoft".

 

[A Distant Demon]

I've always found the combination of "Nintendo Purism" and Smash Bros to be stupidly hilarious.

Who cares if the character is owned by someone else? If they have strong ties to Nintendo, are important characters, and their owners want to work with Nintendo to include them, what exactly is the problem? Yeah, Nintendo might not want to make a deal with them, but we don't know that, yet people are whining that the very idea of these characters is blasphemy. Are you that uncomfortable with other companies that you can't stand them "tainting" Nintendo franchises?

avi bias
because apparently having other unique or important characters makes the other character less important. obviously

my sig bias

Yeah. It's kinda sad that the only argument against Banjo and Kazooie is "cause Microsoft".

and being a dead franchise.
also some people aren't anti banjo, but just certain he has no chance.



EDIT: RIP saki thread. you lasted not very long. But what you call justice has been served.

 

[Curious Villager]

The only third party I would like to see is Professor Layton. But I think Shantae is cool too. Even though I have yet to play her latest game....

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

I just don't get why everyone seems to believe that assist trophies are fair game now.

 

[A Distant Demon]

And Midna falls as well. Shaqasaur just dunked some playas. did I just say playas?

I actually liked midna
I still think deconfirmed characters should be allowed to have threads but fighting is futile

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The only third party I would like to see is Professor Layton. But I think Shantae is cool too. Even though I have yet to play her latest game....

Layton's third party? *checks* Huh, he had an IOS game

 

[Curious Villager]

Layton's third party? *checks* Huh, he had an IOS game

Layton belongs to Level-5 which sadly is a third party company, so yes. Professor Layton is third party.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

RIP in peace, AT character support threads.

Good thing Ray Mk III is no longer an AT, I can still publicly support him and the Custom Robos.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Every time I think of Layton I think Capcom. Then I think he is fighting Phoenix as a second capcom rep (the only way I accept the word rep).

I guess Layton is more "logical" than I thought.


then I get sad Viewtiful Joe is behind all of them as a Capcom rep.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Why can't the discussion thread be open?
I mean, it's not that hard to just keep them open, right?

When fans do not care about whether the characters is an AT, and they're not being a problem, it's not a problem that they are an AT right.

The thread at worst would be a Social of their origin game or a ode to the characters.
A home where the fans can spread the love for either next game. Or bear with me:

For this game.
I mean, there was Mewtwo being a trophy and he's there. I sound delusional, I know, but there's already a model for these characters, so they even could have MORE chance.

With the ballot fight going full force, shouldn't the AT characters have their time in the spotlight too?
Have people discover the wonderful world of insert character here?

I know Ridley thread is a whole different can of worms, but the other threads do not have a bad history where the mods would be happy to close it.

OT:

Bandanna Dee would be really great with all these spear move, being the small version of King "Bully" DeDeDe, poking characters who dare to get in his range.

And Spear Copter.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

You know what kinda character I would like to see? A reverse Little Mac. Terrible on the ground, but awesomeness in the air.

 

[Kenith]

You know what kinda character I would like to see? A reverse Little Mac. Terrible on the ground, but awesomeness in the air.

Kinda already exists:

Although I don't recall Jigglypuff being terrible on the ground.
That Ridley PSA works like that though, I think.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You know what kinda character I would like to see? A reverse Little Mac. Terrible on the ground, but awesomeness in the air.

Jigglypuff, though the idea of Ridley playing like that is popular

 

[A Distant Demon]

wow guys give me more than 2 minutes before ing me. Stupid Ryuga avi.
but yeah that's jiggly's idea although maybe not the best execytion and basically every ridley fan has that idea. (i hate it personally as I think he should have a decent ground game but oh well)

you know I really cant think of any other character that would fit that bill that isnt a pokemon. . .

 

[TheNerdyOne_]

Okay, I think I've managed to make things more fair between sites in my survey. I just added up the percentages from each site so far, that way no one community gets more say just because more people responded. If that's a horrible way to go about this, I'm open to other suggestions.

Anyway, here's the top 25:

• King K. Rool
• Isaac
• Wolf
• Ridley
• Snake
• Inkling
• Shovel Knight
• Dixie Kong
• Ice Climbers
• Rayman
• Banjo and Kazooie
• Bayonetta
• Paper Mario
• Bandana Dee
• Waluigi
• Wonder-Red
• Captain Toad
• Roy
• Geno
• Bomberman
• Impa
• Krystal
• Daisy
• Sceptile
• Chorus Men

And percentages, if you're curious.