Character Discussion Thread

[?????????????]

So i'm not sure if this forum had touched upon this photo yet, as I wasn't a member till after this photo was revealed. But it was the Nintendog looking at the T.V. set, but zoomed in closely, a character that resembles Ness is on the screen, although, it could be a villager or Mario. However, i thought it would be interesting to show.

After analyzing the picture, most people agreed it was actually a Nintendog with a Mario hat.

 

[Opossum]

View attachment 9024 So i'm not sure if this forum had touched upon this photo yet, as I wasn't a member till after this photo was revealed. But it was the Nintendog looking at the T.V. set, but zoomed in closely, a character that resembles Ness is on the screen, although, it could be a villager or Mario. However, i thought it would be interesting to show.

It's a dog in a hat.

 

[Mdilly99]

Quotes like these really detract people away from what their actual chances are, I personally think he's got a fair chance, but it's not big of a chance as Pac-Man.


It looks fine with the organization actually, it's just normally RPG characters have their own row, and Layton is a third party, so i suggest you move him between Pac-Man and Mii.

I originally thought he was 1st party, and now i might remove him, i dont want too many 3rd parties. Should i use Isaac from golden sun? Or Chrom?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I originally thought he was 1st party, and now i might remove him, i dont want too many 3rd parties. Should i use Isaac from golden sun? Or Chrom?

Go with Chrom or a Chrom+Lucina duo.

 

[Kenith]

View attachment 9024 So i'm not sure if this forum had touched upon this photo yet, as I wasn't a member till after this photo was revealed. But it was the Nintendog looking at the T.V. set, but zoomed in closely, a character that resembles Ness is on the screen, although, it could be a villager or Mario. However, i thought it would be interesting to show.

Spoiler

It's dogs in Nintendo hats.

 

[Opossum]

I originally thought he was 1st party, and now i might remove him, i dont want too many 3rd parties. Should i use Isaac from golden sun? Or Chrom?

I'd personally go with Chrom.

 

[?????????????]

I originally thought he was 1st party, and now i might remove him, i dont want too many 3rd parties. Should i use Isaac from golden sun? Or Chrom?

Either are fine. I personally prefer Chrom, and I think he follows up previous additions like Ike and Lucas pretty darn well. Isaac offers more broadening of new franchises, and more obvious new playstyle ideas than Chrom.

 

[Kenith]

I originally thought he was 1st party, and now i might remove him, i dont want too many 3rd parties. Should i use Isaac from golden sun? Or Chrom?

Research shows that putting Ghirahim on your roster increases your lifespan by five years.

 

[Mdilly99]

I'd personally go with Chrom.

Ok thanks.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I originally thought he was 1st party, and now i might remove him, i dont want too many 3rd parties. Should i use Isaac from golden sun? Or Chrom?

Isaac from Golden Sun.

His abilities of earth manipulation has a lot going for it and should be utilized.

 

[Opossum]

I should say that ideally, I'd have both. Isaac can do some cool terraforming stuff, and Chrom could be the stance guy with high durability/reach depending on the stance.

 

[Joe D.]

Spoiler

It's dogs in Nintendo hats.

Ok, I overthought that a bit too much. Excuse me while I re-evaluate my existence.

 

[Kenith]

Ok, I overthought that a bit too much. Excuse me while I re-evaluate my existence.

Um...it's...alright?

I should say that ideally, I'd have both. Isaac can do some cool terraforming stuff, and Chrom could be the stance guy with high durability/reach depending on the stance.

Can someone explain how Chrom's supposed "stance" thing works?

 

[Opossum]

Um...it's...alright?



Can someone explain how Chrom's supposed "stance" thing works?

Allow me! I'll be right back with my proposed playstyle.

 

[?????????????]

Ok, I overthought that a bit too much. Excuse me while I re-evaluate my existence.

Don't worry, plenty of people thought it was Ness and discussed it. It's not like we knew right away it was a Nintendog with a hat.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Can someone explain how Chrom's supposed "stance" thing works?

He dresses up like a cowboy, and he plays Russian Roulette.

 

[Opossum]

Um...it's...alright?



Can someone explain how Chrom's supposed "stance" thing works?

Here we are. Copy and pasted from the Chrom thread:

[Collapse=Stance Chrom Idea]Idea: Chrom gets in with a stance-change mechanic that lets him switch between using the Falchion and the Spear depending on the situation, to make him more diverse.

Essentially, in Falchion mode, he's stronger, heavier and focuses on staying alive (with an added healing mechanic). Spear mode allows him to be faster and have more reach and a projectile at the expense of weight and power. His specials take on new properties, as well. The others are pretty much stat changes with different aesthetics, though, for time purposes.

The Down Special would allow Chrom to change his weapon, his playstyle referencing the gameplay in Fire Emblem in the fact that he uses the right weapon to strategically fit the situation.

While the Side and Up Specials, are vary depending on the weapon, Chrom's Neutral Special stays the same. It's the Shield of Seals, which then ignites in holy fire. Chrom holds the shield in front of him and rushes forward. Unlike other "charge forward" moves, this move takes the foe WITH Chrom. He doesn't stop unless the player jumps or hits a ledge. This move does flame damage and upward knockback, as to be avoidable. If held for too long, Chrom takes some minor burn damage. As a callback to Awakening, Chrom's Shield of Seals Neutral Special would be called "Rightful King."

Chrom's side special and up special are the two halves of Aether divided: Luna and Sol, respectively. In Falchion mode, Luna is similar in appearance to Ike's Quick Draw, but has the effect of Marth's Shield Breaker. He rushes forward and causes light damage, but ignores the effect of shields. This move causes NO KNOCKBACK, however, and has some ending lag. In Spear mode, Luna is instead a a projectile attack in which Chrom lobs his spear in an arc at the opponent. The arc can be controlled, and he tosses it like a javelin.

Chrom's Up Special is Sol. During Falchion mode, Chrom uses his Exalted weapon to swing himself upward. If it hits a foe, you'll even recover a bit of health, similar to Ness and Lucas' down special. During Sol in Spear mode, Chrom leaps upward (higher than Falchion mode) and descends in a diagonal fashion. While easier to use and hit with, Chrom cannot heal in Spear mode, so pick wisely.

For fun, Chrom's Final Smash is Dual Strike+. In this, he calls in the (cloaked) Avatar and Lucina, who help Chrom beat down the opposition.

Generally, Chrom's playstyle would involve switching his weapon to fit the situation: Falchion for power and durability, or Spear for reach and speed, separating him from Marth and Ike. Chrom's positives and negatives both stem from his adaptability. He NEEDS to use the right thing at the right time, or he'll suffer. Anyway, that's just how I see Chrom working in Smash. I feel he'd make a great Stance guy, a classic fighting game archetype that Smash Bros. currently lacks.[/Collapse]

 

[Kenith]

I will always prefer Lucina.

@ Opossum This is similar to my Lucina moveset...awkward.

Especially the Luna bit.
Also, why is his FS essentially Beat Up from Pokemon?

 

[Joe D.]

Ha @ Opossum , it's funny. I actually made a Down-B weapon swap move set, similar to the idea of this, for Krystal.

On the topic: I really don't care if it's Chrom, Lucina, or any other FE rep, just as long as they play well.

 

[Opossum]

I will always prefer Lucina.

@ Opossum This is similar to my Lucina moveset...awkward.

Especially the Luna bit.
Also, why is his FS essentially Beat Up from Pokemon?

Any similarity was unintentional, haha. I wrote that Chrom setup a long time ago.

Anyway, I just feel it's a kind of cool option that makes use of the fact that Chrom's all about commradery and team work.

 

[Cpt.]

Well I haven't put one up in a while so here goes

 

[?????????????]

Well I haven't put one up in a while so here goes

A lot of good ideas in there. I have two complaints.

1.) No Snake. I probably wouldn't mind as much, except that he's your only cut character (if I'm counting right). That kinda stands out. Plus, I believe a return of Snake is much more likely than an addition of Pac-man.

2.) It's bright and hurts my eyes to look at.

 

[Kenith]

@ Opossum my moveset has a swapping mechanic as down B, but It changes her sword properties rather than her weapon.

 

[Opossum]

A lot of good ideas in there. I have two complaints.

1.) No Snake. I probably wouldn't mind as much, except that he's your only cut character (if I'm counting right). That kinda stands out. Plus, I believe a return of Snake is much more likely than an addition of Pac-man.

2.) It's bright and hurts my eyes to look at.

I have, quite literally, the only two complaints that Pizza has.

 

[SmasherMaster]

I'm making a Smashboards ranking based on newcomers/ returning veterans. I curently already made Class A and Class B.

King K Rool, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo, Palutena and Ridley are Class A Rank

Chrom, Dixie, Isaac, Mii, Pacman, Shulk, Takamaru and Waddle Dee are Class B Rank.

Who would be C rank? I think some would be Roy, Krystal, Toad, Paper Mario, Tetra, and Lip. I'm also wondering if I should make an S Rank and move everybody up one.

 

[?????????????]

King K Rool, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo, Palutena and Ridley are Class A Rank

Chrom, Dixie, Isaac, Mii, Pacman, Shulk, Takamaru and Waddle Dee are Class B Rank.

Who would be C rank? I think some would be Roy, Krystal, Toad, Paper Mario, Tetra, and Lip.

That's pretty cool. In my opinion, if Waddle Dee is B Rank, Tetra and Roy should be too. Perhaps Robin as a C rank?

 

[Kenith]

I'm making a Smashboards ranking based on newcomers/ returning veterans. I curently already made Class A and Class B. View attachment 9028

King K Rool, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo, Palutena and Ridley are Class A Rank

Chrom, Dixie, Isaac, Mii, Pacman, Shulk, Takamaru and Waddle Dee are Class B Rank.

Who would be C rank? I think some would be Roy, Krystal, Toad, Paper Mario, Tetra, and Lip. I'm also wondering if I should make an S Rank and move everybody up one.

Put Roy over Chrom.
Also, S rank is good. Make a D rank and include Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Goroh, and Waluigi.

 

[M23-X0]

I'm making a Smashboards ranking based on newcomers/ returning veterans. I curently already made Class A and Class B. View attachment 9028

King K Rool, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo, Palutena and Ridley are Class A Rank

Chrom, Dixie, Isaac, Mii, Pacman, Shulk, Takamaru and Waddle Dee are Class B Rank.

Who would be C rank? I think some would be Roy, Krystal, Toad, Paper Mario, Tetra, and Lip. I'm also wondering if I should make an S Rank and move everybody up one.

In my opinion, Waddle Dee is not a class B, whereas Roy and maybe Krystal are Class B.

 

[?????????????]

Chrom and Roy should be put on even footing; all I'm saying on that front. Since Skull Kid is a confirmed Assist Trophy, I don't see a point in adding him at all.

 

[Opossum]

Put Roy over Chrom.
Also, S rank is good. Make a D rank and include Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Goroh, and Waluigi.

I say put them on even footing.

EDIT: I said the exact same thing as Pizza, but shorter, and still got ninja'd.

 

[Kenith]

I say put them on even footing.

I guess so. Pacman's too high, even for Smashboards.

 

[Gunla]

I'm also wondering if I should make an S Rank and move everybody up one.

S Rank would be Palutena, Megaman, Little Mac and Mewtwo. The top of the top.

 

[UltimateWario]

S Rank would be Palutena, Megaman, Little Mac and Mewtwo. The top of the top.

What Smashboards are you on?

 

[?????????????]

S Rank would be Palutena, Megaman, Little Mac and Mewtwo. The top of the top.

Probably Ridley as well.

 

[Gunla]

What Smashboards are you on?

The one where a mega-majority thinks Mewtwo is obvious.
Maybe not the Tuna.
Little Mac, yes.
Megaman, maybe.

Probably Ridley as well.

There's a sentiment that's still anti-Ridley. He's borderline?

 

[False Sense]

I'm making a Smashboards ranking based on newcomers/ returning veterans. I curently already made Class A and Class B. View attachment 9028

King K Rool, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo, Palutena and Ridley are Class A Rank

Chrom, Dixie, Isaac, Mii, Pacman, Shulk, Takamaru and Waddle Dee are Class B Rank.

Who would be C rank? I think some would be Roy, Krystal, Toad, Paper Mario, Tetra, and Lip. I'm also wondering if I should make an S Rank and move everybody up one.

So, is this based on want, or chances? The selection of characters on there makes it sort of hard to tell.

 

[Kenith]

S Rank - Mega Man, Mewtwo
A Rank - King K. Rool, Ridley, Little Mac
B Rank - Roy, Krystal, Palutena, Chrom, Paper Mario
C Rank - Dixie Kong, Isaac, Tetra, Shulk, Pacman, Bandana Dee
D Rank - Waluigi, Ghirahim, Mii, Samurai Goroh, Lucina, Tingle, Black Shadow

Did I miss anyone?

 

[Gunla]

S Rank - Mega Man, Mewtwo
A Rank - King K. Rool, Ridley, Little Mac
B Rank - Roy, Krystal, Palutena, Chrom, Paper Mario
C Rank - Dixie Kong, Isaac, Tetra, Shulk, Skull Kid, Pacman
E Rank - Waluigi, Bandana Dee, Ghirahim, Mii, Samurai Goroh, Lucina, Black Shadow

Did I miss anyone?

No D Rank? Is D=E? (Serious question)

 

[Shorts]

What are we ranking them on? Who we want? Popularity? Uniqueness?

 

[Opossum]

I'd take Skull Kid off entirely. He was already deconfirmed, and really didn't have as much support as many would have you believe.