And Krystal is most associated with her appearance as a Star Fox Pilot.
She can be both. Smash is full of composite characters. Pilots aren't restricted from using staffs. Combat-wise, which is the focus of Smash, she's most associated with her staff.
I see no reason for him to add Krystal, and his only plausible reason for making her unique is the sole reason that she would be excessive if she wasn't. Not a plausible reason for Sakurai to literally change his own views on what characters should share moves with others.
I didn't ask if you saw reason for Sakurai to add Krystal, nor did I touch on her chances. I said
if he did.
And no, that isn't the sole reason for making her unique. How about the fact that she has potential none of the other SF characters have and potential none of the existing characters in general have?
That's what Sakurai looks for, according to him.
Kind of like he passed up on Luigi using a poltergust for the entirety of his move set, yes. And also yes, because it's not associated with her enough for it to be every single move. One move, yes. An entire move set no.
Comparing an existing character added as originally a clone is not the same as a character added with the initial intent to be unique. And the staff is associated with Krystal more than any other method of grounded combat. I assume you're suggesting she use... what? The Assault weapons? Those, first off, are also only in one game. Second, the other characters use them, that makes them less associated solely with Krystal. Sure, Fox uses the staff, but it's Krystal's staff. You're saying she should limit the thing she's closest associated with from one game, and the rest of her moveset be comprised of things from... solely another game that is associated with every character, and capable of use by every character. That doesn't make a lot of sense. Sakurai looks for individuality when making movesets... not something three characters and two semi-clones who people want to see be diversified could already do.
And not closely associated with her enough? Because it's from one game? Sheik was from one game and became HER OWN CHARACTER as part of Zelda. Never mind that Zelda herself only took from one game.
There's a limit you know. Like the point where a character's uniqueness takes away from their character.
You're suggesting Krystal use material from her games that the other SF characters also use in the games. It could work, but limiting the staff to one move while focusing on standard SF attacks any of them would be capable of?
That's uniqueness taking away from the character. If the staff takes up the majority of the moveset, unless we get another staff wielder who uses it in the same way as Krystal, that's adding to the uniqueness of the character. You're pretty much saying giving Krystal moves shared between all the SF characters in their games makes her more unique.
But, I reckon you're under the impression that if one thing in Smash doesn't necessarily make sense in it's own right that Sakurai has complete disregard for his views on how things should be in other areas.
Sakurai adds two kinds of characters: original ones and ones based off existing ones. In this conversation we're assuming Krystal would be an original one. When adding original characters, Sakurai looks for what sets them apart, and highlights that. What sets Krystal apart is her staff.
This is my absolute favorite counter argument. Because everybody uses it and each person who does seems to have complete disregard for past Smash history.
If you didn't split up my posts into partial sentences you'd see we're talking about the hypothetical situation in which she's original Noah, not cloned.
I wish I could say this without sounding arrogant. But, I'm the only one to realize a lot of things. And so are many people. Such as I am practically the only person to realize a pattern in semi-clone characters at all. But, I suppose if I was the guy who predicted Wii Fit Trainer, I'd be less credible being the only one. I don't see how being the only one makes me less credible given a majority of Smash fans convince themselves a lot of bull **** things. That's something we can all agree with.
I don't recall you
ever being the only one to "realize" something before it happened, and if you'd like to prove otherwise, I'm more than willing to listen. Maybe you think you're the only one who comes up with stuff simply because you don't realize you share the general opinion, such as when you claimed Sakurai followed your prediction for Little Mac's moveset, which was pretty much the general prediction for Mac's moveset. What is this pattern?
If you don't see how you being the only one claiming something doesn't exactly make it credible... I honestly have nothing to say.
Yes. Are you implying this changes anything?
Not if you're going to assume your single opinion is more valid than that of the majority, no.
Geno is just as important as he was pre-brawl. Your point?
Well that's good to know, considering we were talking about the importance of a character who would get in solely due to popularity should he ever be included.
Name one thing she did besides get kidnapped and gave Fox her weapon. As apposed to actually aiding Fox directly and even taking on her own independent adventure in Assault and Command which are two games more people have actually played.
She received a huge amount of attention compared to any character who wasn't Fox, including the other Star Fox members, which is not the case in later titles. It's not the actions of the role nearly as much as the importance and attention given to it that defines its size, and hers was second to Fox.
And maybe check your numbers again, Adventures was the best selling of the three.
You know I really don't need any more of a basis to say Krystal won't be given her staff other than that Sakurai wants most similar characters to share moves with the characters they share moves with so long as they are able to. Because I have 9 characters to base this off of, where as you have 0 characters who's move sets rely ENTIRELY on one ability or element with no association with their rebooted/modern character/franchise scheme.
You're under the assumption Krystal can't both primarily use her staff and share moves with Fox? Ofc she could. The staff has a shield which could be used as a reflector, the staff can propel her upwards. Also, I hope these 9 characters don't involve cloned or semi-cloned ones, because we're not talking about clones here. Just because the staff is her main weapon doesn't mean nothing from Assault would be included, like I said, Smash has composite characters. The thing is though... she only demonstrates non-vehicular combat in two games... and you want to relegate one of them, the one she demonstrates individuality and unique potential solely to a single move and have the majority of her moveset comprised of things Sakurai could just further luigify one of the two semi-clones with. In no way is that close to what Sakurai does with original characters. He doesn't focus on what makes them similar, he focuses on what makes them different, even if there is a shared move here or there - which usually only happens when there is a lack of material to draw from or characters share the same integral and iconic moves, which Krystal doesn't.