Character Discussion Thread

[Deleted member]

Someone should make fanart of these 5.

Speakin of it! Its done! It's not what I call top notch but eh, I tried

Had no idea what to do with Ridley

Might rework it later...

 

[~Krystal~]

Kind of surprised the Nintendo would let something like that go by since drugs and medicine; OD and healing.

I took the swim suit edition costumes as an indication that they stopped trying to preserve a wholesome image. Then, there's Palutena with pole dancer taunt (seriously)? It pains me to say it, but Solid Snake and his gritty image is Weenie Hut Jr. level at best.

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

I'm relieved they bothered to change it at all. It's funny as ****, too. Can't find it in myself to hate on it.

Dr. Mario's Final Smash = getting drugged to death

 

[~Krystal~]

Dr. Mario's Final Smash = getting drugged to death

Indeed. As Ffamran pointed out, death by overdose. A method of execution that can only be described as pure ecstasy.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Not that he had any chance to begin with.

I'm relieved they bothered to change it at all. It's funny as ****, too. Can't find it in myself to hate on it.

Funny in a stupid sort of way. Looks kinda cool, but I wish it was more unique. Like giant pills falling from the sky Tetris-style.

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[lilt]

So there were several people who claimed the ESRB Leak roster wouldn't be final.
One of them was Neo Zero, a mod from Smash Boards.
Did he say something to his statement by now? I'm not mad, just curious.

 

[RoseyBetch]

So many things make it look like Chorus Men, Ridley, Dixie, and Mewtwo being late arrivals to the game could be a true statement. Chorus Men were apart of Gematsu, which was mostly correct. Chrom was probably one of the first planned characters, but then scrapped for Robin. Ridley was kept a secret this long. There has to be some special reasoning behind it. Dixie and Mewtwo are two very popular characters, so I feel like he would have shown a trophy or something for them by now. But we haven't seen either of them (to my knowledge).

 

[LordJackal]

So I think there's proof that we have more characters coming. It takes a while to explain, so here's my video on it:

Essentially, that padlock has no reason to exist if this really is the full game.

 

[GamerGuy09]

So I think there's proof that we have more characters coming. It takes a while to explain, so here's my video on it:

Essentially, that padlock has no reason to exist if this really is the full game.

I have those same pajama bottoms.

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[LordJackal]

I have those same pajama bottoms.

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I'll give them back tomorrow, I swear.

 

[pupNapoleon]

i dont want him either, sure like any character he could be made unique but hes really nothing more then a pallette swap that was given a larger role in KI. He could remain just a color and still serve the same purpose, which is why i think if he were added they wouldnt have missed the opportunity in palutenas trailer.

Dark versions of characters have never really been something i cared for, in fact i dislike it. Its cliche, its overused, and they are easily the most shallow characters in any game.

The only video game doppelganger character that succeeds IMO is Wario, he is far more then mario's evil shadow. He has his own personality, motivations, quirks, and hes become so much more then the angsty likes of pit or dark link could ever be.

I agree, I am not a fan of characters who only exist as counter entities, who need qualifiers.
TOON and Zero Suit are bad enough (Though I wish they called her just pain zero), but they have identities that literally revolve around another character- they need the other half to be defined, as a moon orbits a planet. I prefer entities that are self-sustaining.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Wario has a new Up Smash and Side Smash.

No shoulder bash....or maybe not.

Custom Side B can be Shoulder Bash now?

 

[Xzsmmc]

Wario has a new Up Smash and Side Smash.

No shoulder bash....or maybe not.

Custom Side B can be Shoulder Bash now?

That really bothers me. I can understand changing his upsmash, but getting rid of his signature attack?

I hope it's not a side B custom, I want both the dash attack and the bike.

 

[pupNapoleon]

So I think there's proof that we have more characters coming. It takes a while to explain, so here's my video on it:

Essentially, that padlock has no reason to exist if this really is the full game.

Great video man. And youre adorable! Do a Jesse Eisenberg impression.

 

[GamerGuy09]

That really bothers me. I can understand changing his upsmash, but getting rid of his signature attack?

I hope it's not a side B custom, I want both the dash attack and the bike.

It could be a Custom Neutral B.

But his Side Smash got replaced by a back hand punch and his up smash is a head butt like Mario/Luigi/Mr. Game & Watch.

 

[Xzsmmc]

It could be a Custom Neutral B.

But his Side Smash got replaced by a back hand punch and his up smash is a head butt like Mario/Luigi/Mr. Game & Watch.

Yeah, I know. Bit frustrating, since his new Fsmash seems to have even cooldown time than the dash.

 

[LordJackal]

Great video man. And youre adorable! Do a Jesse Eisenberg impression.

but im so tired

Thanks, though. I forgot how violent the community could be, the comments are kind of besieged by people who think otherwise

Wario has a new Up Smash and Side Smash.

No shoulder bash....or maybe not.

Custom Side B can be Shoulder Bash now?

It's bizarre how much Wario and other characters who were perfectly fine have changed. Why them and not Falcondorf?

 

[Xzsmmc]

It's bizarre how much Wario and other characters who were perfectly fine have changed. Why them and not Falcondorf?

Because Sakurai likes messing with us.

"Bowser is getting a revamp. Expecting Ganondorf to get one too? Too bad. Falcondorf time."

 

[LordJackal]

Because Sakurai likes messing with us.

"Bowser is getting a revamp. Expecting Ganondorf to get one too? Too bad. Falcondorf time."

God, so much about this final roster is just strange and contradictory like that.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Sakurai is not a fan of Zelda, is he?
I wish we had more magic based characters in general. And cartoon.

Ah well. I have Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr and the new characters to come!

 

[dezeray112]

What about the Doc?

I wouldn't exactly consider Dr. Mario (if that is what you are referring to) to be a newcomer character since I believe he is more of a returning character as he was in Melee but not Brawl.

 

[MagnesD3]

So there were several people who claimed the ESRB Leak roster wouldn't be final.
One of them was Neo Zero, a mod from Smash Boards.
Did he say something to his statement by now? I'm not mad, just curious.

I believe it was an opinion, if I recall. That people took as fact.

 

[Ganonthegreat]

So does anybody know if trophies of Mewtwo, Ridley, K. Rool or Isaac have been found yet? They're all very notably absent so far.

 

[Grimnir]

I would really, really like to believe Spainkiller's post on Neogaf about the 4 characters (on the other hand, there is no way in **** I'm buying both versions, at least not until a huge discount, not even for Ridley), but I don't buy it. First he says that they've "been right about previous leaks", but the only example he gives is Bowser Jr.'s alts. The "leaker" could have easily taken that info from the Ninka leak as soon as the ESRB leak made it obvious it was correct.

At any rate, Brawl was hacked shortly after release, revealing the "forbidden seven". If they indeed are unlocked through connectivity, then at least some of their data will be in the game already, so here's hoping someone will crack the game soon. Even if all of that is a lie, I'm curious to know what actually did end up on the cutting room floor.

I believe it was an opinion, if I recall. That people took as fact.

No, Neo's post made it very clear he was claiming his info was from a "source".

 

[Ganonthegreat]

At any rate, Brawl was hacked shortly after release, revealing the "forbidden seven". If they indeed are unlocked through connectivity, then at least some of their data will be in the game already, so here's hoping someone will crack the game soon. Even if all of that is a lie, I'm curious to know what actually did end up on the cutting room floor.

Any sign of the name Ridley would probably lead to riots. At this point I'd rather not know and wait to see announcements.

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

@ dezeray112 (sorry I can't reply normally, computer is too slow right now) i would call him a Melee veteran

 

[CoolEric258]

I took the swim suit edition costumes as an indication that they stopped trying to preserve a wholesome image. Then, there's Palutena with pole dancer taunt (seriously)? It pains me to say it, but Solid Snake and his gritty image is Weenie Hut Jr. level at best.

Er...what?

 

[Andinus]

Actually the pyrosphere direct tease was and is significant. The greninja trailer.... Not really. And its baffling because of the high requests. Not to mention iconic status. And representation. Before you argue about that, metroid has yet to get a new rep and zero suit doesn't count. Mewtwo is of the most well known besides pikachu and charizard and the former and latter are both in.

I just don't see why it's significant, what it looks like now is people just looking way too deep into nothing. Had there been 3-5 pyrosphere like events I could see why some people might have drawn the conclusion that he is probably in, but just one supposed tease is not enough to support him as likely and his now exclusion "baffling".

And I think people have jumped to conclusions assuming that fan requests would/should have a strong decision swaying impact on character inclusion.

Representation, requests, iconic status, historic significance, percieved sales driving potential, the reality is theses are all things we just assume have a big impact on roster building, either together or separately, whichever more readily supports the inclusion of the character someone wants I suppose. But truthfully do we honestly know enough details of the decsion making process to confidently believe we understand it, sakurai's mind, and his staff? I don't thinks so.

What really happens is people board the hype train and then ride it too far and too long, so that when the end of the line is reached, and we know the final roster, a perceived bewilderment ensues along with frustration because of the hype-made false pretense that these things were all but certain, but in reality had nothing truly solid in their support.

 

[Deleted member]

Er...what?

Pretty sure its referring to this taunt

Its not even a pole dance

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Does anyone feel like Sakurai just hates Mewtwo? I mean he did make it a bad fighter in Melee, and then he threw it into the trash, never to be seen again.

 

[Flubber]

Does anyone feel like Sakurai just hates Mewtwo? I mean he did make it a bad fighter in Melee, and then he threw it into the trash, never to be seen again.

Are you serious? What's up with this strange reasoning?
If he would really hate Mewtwo, he wouldn't have made him a character at all... And as far as I know, Mewtwo wasn't in Brawl due to time constraints, not because Sakurai hates him.

 

[Curious Villager]

Does anyone feel like Sakurai just hates Mewtwo? I mean he did make it a bad fighter in Melee, and then he threw it into the trash, never to be seen again.

To be fair, Sakurai mentioned a couple times how dealing with other companies properties, particularly the Pokemon company/Gamefreak, tend to be quite difficult to deal with at times. Or something along those lines.

They probably wanted him to prioritize other things in terms of Pokemon and all. I don't think he really has anything against Mewtwo and all.

 

[Deleted member]

Don't blame Sakurai for Mewtwo's exclusion.

Go blame the ones from Pokémon Co.

 

[The_Intruder]

I dunno why, all my hype for this smash is gone, and it's funny because my characters are here(falco and sheik)... But I feel some laziness in this one, no original stage for DK or Metroid or Starfox, and mario? Oh well five new stages! But I guess it's not Sakurai's fault, don't forget nintendo has amiibo to market during this holiday 2014, and I guess sakurai can't delay the game like he always did in past. And now we have a software update, this could be a sign that the game was not finished but at any price it must be released this month...
Payable DLC (sorry but I hate that) could be a decision by nintendo that's why the CSS could have this oddly look.
Since the appearance of mario kart 8 dlc, I got bad feeling of the way they will use these in other games.
I see in this game all the new marketing of nintendo, I've thought amiibo was a good idea at first, but I was wrong and seeing smash becomes just a commercial thing is sad.


ps: this is just my opinion

 

[Deleted member]

I don't even know what to think on DLC after a certain Kong that gets added on a lot of leaked DLC lists just got disconfirmed not too long ago.

 

[RoseyBetch]

I just don't see why it's significant, what it looks like now is people just looking way too deep into nothing. Had there been 3-5 pyrosphere like events I could see why some people might have drawn the conclusion that he is probably in, but just one supposed tease is not enough to support him as likely and his now exclusion "baffling".

And I think people have jumped to conclusions assuming that fan requests would/should have a strong decision swaying impact on character inclusion.

Representation, requests, iconic status, historic significance, percieved sales driving potential, the reality is theses are all things we just assume have a big impact on roster building, either together or separately, whichever more readily supports the inclusion of the character someone wants I suppose. But truthfully do we honestly know enough details of the decsion making process to confidently believe we understand it, sakurai's mind, and his staff? I don't thinks so.

What really happens is people board the hype train and then ride it too far and too long, so that when the end of the line is reached, and we know the final roster, a perceived bewilderment ensues along with frustration because of the hype-made false pretense that these things were all but certain, but in reality had nothing truly solid in their support.

It's not baffling that Ridley isn't playable. That was always highly probable. The baffling thing is that he got some strange special treatment. We still haven't seen his in game model or seen Sakurai address him directly or by name. The "tease" that he was a boss was strange because everyone knew it was Ridley, but he didn't just come out and say "Ridley is a boss and not playable. Stay tuned for more on this later." Everyone would have been over it by now if he had just done that, but he didn't. He danced around the subject and we still don't know why he did or what purpose it could possibly serve. That's what seems "baffling" in this situation -- that every other NPC that was popular or highly requested had a direct disconfirmation to go with our first glimpse of them (Chrom is a prime example of this). Soon we'll know if the Wii U Connectivity rumor is true, which it probably isn't. If it is, we'll know exactly why Ridley wasn't confirmed as a boss (because he isn't). The more likely route, however, is that he is just a boss and that we get what we see. People will then pester and question Sakurai on his reasoning for doing so, especially with one of the most requested and sought-after characters. I don't see why he would want that or what the purpose would be, but we'll know soon enough.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I don't even know what to think on DLC after a certain Kong that gets added on a lot of leaked DLC lists just got disconfirmed not too long ago.

Is a Trophy really something that could qualify as a role that would prevent someone from being DLC? I thought it was only something like being an AT, Boss, Stage Hazard or a part of someone's FS?

 

[Deleted member]

Is a Trophy really something that could qualify as a role that would prevent someone from being DLC? I thought it was only something like being an AT, Boss, Stage Hazard or a part of someone's FS?

Hmm...maybe not. Then again, I'm not Sakurai & I don't have any power to change the roster.

I did say before that IMO any character that doesn't have a role beyond being a trophy would be DLC...oops. I'm so dumb, I should rest now.

 

[RoseyBetch]

Is a Trophy really something that could qualify as a role that would prevent someone from being DLC? I thought it was only something like being an AT, Boss, Stage Hazard or a part of someone's FS?

Wait, was there a trophy of Dixie?

 

[BluePikmin11]

@N30N That's basically my theory I'm betting on happening on the Wii U Version of the game.