Character Discussion Thread

[Weeman]

I agree with this sentiment, with 4 veterans yet to be determined and only five more slots on top of our 14 (17 counting all other leaked characters aside from Dr. Mario); I believe that betting in favor of at least one of those remaining spaces being a veteran is logical at worst. If not, we certainly have more newcomers than Brawl which would be a wonderful surprise given Sakurai's stance on the roster size. Albeit, a great portion of the newcomers are clones. But whatevs.

I'm not so sure anymore, i mean Wolf has grey fur, and we all know Sakurai hates grey fur.

 

[Maxilian]

I agree with this sentiment, with 4 veterans yet to be determined and only five more slots on top of our 14 (17 counting all other leaked characters aside from Dr. Mario); I believe that betting in favor of at least one of those remaining spaces being a veteran is logical at worst. If not, we certainly have more newcomers than Brawl which would be a wonderful surprise given Sakurai's stance on the roster size. Albeit, a great portion of the newcomers are clones. But whatevs.

Yeah but for some reason i think we are going to get only 3 more characters not 5

 

[Morbi]

I'm not so sure anymore, i mean Wolf has grey fur, and we all know Sakurai hates grey fur.

This is true; however, Sakurai also loves "dark" forms of characters. Wolf is close enough to Dark Fox.

If Wolf is cut, I do hope that he is offered as a costume via Grey Fox... but we meet the original crux of that prospect. Sakurai hates grey fur.

 

[Weeman]

This is true; however, Sakurai also loves "dark" forms of characters. Wolf is close enough to Dark Fox.

If Wolf is cut, I do hope that he is offered as a costume via Grey Fox... but we meet the original crux of that prospect. Sakurai hates grey fur.

The problem is that if Snake gets cut, using Grey Fox's name would be against copyrights .

 

[Maxilian]

This is true; however, Sakurai also loves "dark" forms of characters. Wolf is close enough to Dark Fox.

If Wolf is cut, I do hope that he is offered as a costume via Grey Fox... but we meet the original crux of that prospect. Sakurai hates grey fur.

Do you imagine getting a "wolf" as a palette for Fox (only colors, not even a costume), the biggest slap in the face Sakurai could give to wolf fans/players

 

[Autumn ♫]

In order of who I think is most likely to least likely to be playable of the cuts in the leak, just in case you guys wanted to know.
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[Morbi]

Do you imagine getting a "wolf" as a palette for Fox (only colors, not even a costume), the biggest slap in the face Sakurai could give to wolf fans/players

Probably, I am not most Wolf fans, but I would be very pleased with that result. Then again, I am content with Falcondorf whilst most Ganon fans want him to be more reminiscent to canon Ganon. In my subjective opinion, if you are in the game in some way, shape or form... that is better than not being in the game at all.

 

[Weeman]

Probably, I am not most Wolf fans, but I would be very pleased with that result. Then again, I am content with Falcondorf whilst most Ganon fans want him to be more reminiscent to canon Ganon. In my subjective opinion, if you are in the game in some way, shape or form... that is better than not being in the game at all.

So would you be ok if he and the rest of the Star Wolf team were bosses?

 

[Kalimdori]

I agree with this sentiment, with 4 veterans yet to be determined and only five more slots on top of our 14 (17 counting all other leaked characters aside from Dr. Mario); I believe that betting in favor of at least one of those remaining spaces being a veteran is logical at worst. If not, we certainly have more newcomers than Brawl which would be a wonderful surprise given Sakurai's stance on the roster size. Albeit, a great portion of the newcomers are clones. But whatevs.

How is 2 out of 14 (That we know about) a great portion?

 

[Morbi]

So would you be ok if he and the rest of the Star Wolf team were bosses?

Not only would I be okay with that, it would be preferable. I suppose it depends though, are Pigma and Krystal on the team or not?

 

[Weeman]

Not only would I be okay with that, it would be preferable. I suppose it depends though, are Pigma and Krystal on the team or not?

Pigma and Andrew are dead, and Krystal is Fox's Waifu so no
But you get the smug Panther Carosso and Leon Powalski

 

[Masonomace]

In order of who I think is most likely to least likely of the cuts on the roster, just in case you guys wanted to know.
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My whole order of cuts: Highest to lowest chance

1. You mad Sheilda fans?
   
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10. = best chance

 

[Weeman]

Oh and i just saw the Bayonetta 2 Direct thing, so Bayonetta will be revealed, nuff' said.

 

[mark welford]

I agree with this sentiment, with 4 veterans yet to be determined and only five more slots on top of our 14 (17 counting all other leaked characters aside from Dr. Mario); I believe that betting in favor of at least one of those remaining spaces being a veteran is logical at worst. If not, we certainly have more newcomers than Brawl which would be a wonderful surprise given Sakurai's stance on the roster size. Albeit, a great portion of the newcomers are clones. But whatevs.

agreed but I would for one of those slots to be wolf and I think for sure he is in the wii u version of the game.

 

[Morbi]

agreed but I would for one of those slots to be wolf and I think for sure he is in the wii u version of the game.

If Wolf is in the Wii U version, I can guarantee you that he is also in the 3DS version.

Wolf is the most likely veteran to return, I do not worry about him at all.

 

[Weeman]

Maybe we'll get a miniature version of Ganondorf this time, so that he becomes top tier. Yes that would work, we'd call him:

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GANONDWARF!

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe we'll get a miniature version of Ganondorf this time, so that he becomes top tier. Yes that would work, we'd call him:

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GANONDWARF DLC OR RIOT

 

[Doompatron3000]

In order of who I think is most likely to least likely to be playable of the cuts in the leak, just in case you guys wanted to know.
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My order for cut characters returning in someway, from most likely to least likely:
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[wizardto1]

In order of who I think is most likely to least likely to be playable of the cuts in the leak, just in case you guys wanted to know.
,,,

 

[epicgordan]

Let me explain: The second to last row is reserved for characters that were not planned for the initial finalized roster, or were of incredibly low priority. For sure, Dr. Mario, Dixie Kong, Impa, Dark Pit, and Lucina are clones or semi clones. However, there is quite a story with Ridley and Mewtwo.

I cannot say with much certainty if they were the last characters added to the roster, but my guess would be that they were put down there in order to avoid ruining the structured order of the CSS. Mewtwo could have been added after receiving a ton of requests to bring him back, and thus was placed here in this row to avoid moving around the roster too much.

As for Ridley, my guess is, Sakurai had an idea on a unique gameplay mechanic, but due to the length of time to create a 100% unique moveset to satisfy the unique functions, decided to take two shortcuts. First, he had Ridley borrow a number of moves from Charizard; the second was the removal of aerials altogether, and I'll tell you why: Because Ridley is strictly an aerial fighter, he is never actually on the ground and is thus always hovering. The unique mechanic and his similarities to Charizard (both being dragons) helped make Ridley an easy late addition to make.

Everything else in the CSS follows the mold carefully. Shulk is still grouped with the third party characters for the sake of rudimentary roster placement.

 

[NeonBurrito]

I found this and it sums up the leak pretty well:

I think R.O.B. was a bad choice however, I think Black-Paint Pit would make a better Yzma.

 

[Masonomace]

I've wanted a character to be 100% in flight the whole time, someone like Ridley can introduce & patent the very first air-fighting. Thinking about it it'd be no walk in the park to design, but I've wanted a play-style like that for quite some time when I got into other fighting games. Anytime Ridley got launched downward to the stage ground, he'd have a regular meteor landing & gets up like anyone else with a roll / stand-up / wake-up attack, but he'd take to the air again hovering for his idle animation. Something like that would be interesting to see played.
EDIT: Lmao @ NeonBurrito 's Emperor's New Groove. You may edit your post just for Dark Pit Yzma. R.O.B. can be principal Amzy

 

[Sobreviviente]

I found this and it sums up the leak pretty well:

I think R.O.B. was a bad choice however, I think Black-Paint Pit would make a better Yzma.

uhm was ROB, one of the most important characters in SSE, an iconic nintendo face through history, unexpected in some form?

 

[Spinosaurus]

uhm was ROB, one of the most important characters in SSE, an iconic nintendo face through history, unexpected in some form?

We don't like him so he shouldn't have come back.

Or so they say.

 

[Autumn ♫]

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Let me explain: The second to last row is reserved for characters that were not planned for the initial finalized roster, or were of incredibly low priority. For sure, Dr. Mario, Dixie Kong, Impa, Dark Pit, and Lucina are clones or semi clones. However, there is quite a story with Ridley and Mewtwo.

I cannot say with much certainty if they were the last characters added to the roster, but my guess would be that they were put down there in order to avoid ruining the structured order of the CSS. Mewtwo could have been added after receiving a ton of requests to bring him back, and thus was placed here in this row to avoid moving around the roster too much.

As for Ridley, my guess is, Sakurai had an idea on a unique gameplay mechanic, but due to the length of time to create a 100% unique moveset to satisfy the unique functions, decided to take two shortcuts. First, he had Ridley borrow a number of moves from Charizard; the second was the removal of aerials altogether, and I'll tell you why: Because Ridley is strictly an aerial fighter, he is never actually on the ground and is thus always hovering. The unique mechanic and his similarities to Charizard (both being dragons) helped make Ridley an easy late addition to make.

Everything else in the CSS follows the mold carefully. Shulk is still grouped with the third party characters for the sake of rudimentary roster placement.

Needs more Vaati and Snake.

 

[Kriven]

I've wanted a character to be 100% in flight the whole time, someone like Ridley can introduce & patent the very first air-fighting. Thinking about it it'd be no walk in the park to design, but I've wanted a play-style like that for quite some time when I got into other fighting games. Anytime Ridley got launched downward to the stage ground, he'd have a regular meteor landing & gets up like anyone else with a roll / stand-up / wake-up attack, but he'd take to the air again hovering for his idle animation. Something like that would be interesting to see played.

I believe Firebrand from Marvel vs. Capcom 3 plays like this.

 

[Masonomace]

I believe Firebrand from Marvel vs. Capcom 3 plays like this.

Guess I forgot to add in my first sentence the words "in Smash Brothers"
I've wanted a character to be 100% in flight the whole time, someone like Ridley can introduce & patent the very first air-fighting in Smash Brothers.

My bad.

 

[~Krystal~]

Spoiler

Advance upon my position.

MFW Ridley's air game is no match for Jigglypuff's.

 

[Groose]

Today is the last day to rate in the RTC, you all should rate today, it feels bittersweet, as I won't be seeing much of @ Groose anymore after the ratings, I gotta make my rating count.

Not true. See, I've always felt kind of handicapped by running Rate Their Chances. It's just taken up so much of my time (one to two hours every single day) that I really haven't really had time to do anything else on the board. Now that I don't have to spend such a large amount of time in one single thread, I can finally return to visiting all sorts of threads. I'll definitely be around quite a bit, and you'll be seeing my name in far more than the RTC thread.

Heck, maybe I'll actually have time to try to keep up with this thread again. Haven't done so since I first joined, and that was well over a year ago.

 

[MagnesD3]

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Advance upon my position.

MFW Ridley's air game is no match for Jigglypuff's.

Honestly ridley would be good in the air for different reasons (mostly about range and angles.) but I agree puff should own ridley due to his big hurtbox and her high priority air normals.

 

[ManInTransit]

Also, hate to say this, but if Dr. Mario does make the cut, Dr. Luigi will probably be there too. He got a WiiWare title.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Also, hate to say this, but if Dr. Mario does make the cut, Dr. Luigi will probably be there too. He got a WiiWare title.

Dr. Mario is somewhat justifiable due to being a veteran.

 

[MagnesD3]

Sakurai is going to burn the hope from our souls with a powerful ring of fire. Watchout Kiddies, wolf, mewtwo and riddles are in the danger zone...

 

[mark welford]

Sakurai is going to burn the hope from our souls with a powerful ring of fire. Watchout Kiddies, wolf, mewtwo and riddles are in the danger zone...

dude wolf has the best chance out of the "cut" characters.

 

[MagnesD3]

dude wolf has the best chance out of the "cut" characters.

I know but I can feel it the oncoming disappointment when next week there is a newcomer vid with jr. and dhd where dhd flicks us off.. I dont trust sakurai..

 

[mark welford]

I know but I can feel it the oncoming disappointment when next week there is a newcomer vid with jr. and dhd where dhd flicks us off.. I dont trust sakurai..

hold on to hope when all seems lost that is when a miracle happens.

 

[AEMehr]

Also, hate to say this, but if Dr. Mario does make the cut, Dr. Luigi will probably be there too. He got a WiiWare title.

As a costume maybe.

If not Casino Luigi from 64 DS.

pls sakurai

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Mr. L. seems like a better alt attire for Luigi. I mean c'mon, Sakurai loves dark type characters

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'll be very estatic if Casino Luigi is an alt., one of those out-there costumes like Golf Mario.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Mr. L. seems like a better alt attire for Luigi. I mean c'mon, Sakurai loves dark type characters

But if he likes dark type characters, how come we don't have any dark newcomers yet?