Character Discussion Thread

[L9999]

I'll have to disagree about the Zelda part, zelda is nintendo's 4th biggest franchise and since Mario and Pokemon have gotten new reps zelda deserves one too, plus we haven't had a new zelda character since melee. And if hyrule warriors is anything to go by plenty of people care about impa and even for the people that don't that's a reason to put her in, like what they did with Fire Emblem in melee

What about Toon Link? I don't say that Zelda doesn't deserve it, but it is not needed, we already have the 3 key characters of the entire series, and 2 iconic and curiously controversial characters by the name of Sheik and Toon Link. Impa doesn't have that iconicy, iconity, ....however the heck it's said. And Sheik already has the badass ninja theme, so she buries Impa even more. Marth was in Melee because Japan in a big mass wanted it, there is not that big mass that want Impa in.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Tell me, boy. On a scale of 1-100, how disappointed would you be IF Vaati isn't playable?

Probably about a 55. I'd definitely miss him, but I honestly have no personal connection to him besides Smash, and I already have Lucina and Palutena playable, who were in the Top 3 of my most wanted characters.

Now if he's not in the game in any way, it's an obvious 100.

 

[Zhadgon]

Maybe this will inspire you!!!

My Ultimate Prediction Roster!!! (if sakurai truly wants this to be the best character game ever.)

EVERYBODY WINS!!! (Cue's main theme music)

Still needs a Wars Series character aside from that I love this roster .

.n_n.

 

[ThePsychoWolf]

Whatever floats your boat, mate.


Nope.
The two companies developing the game would be Sora Ltd. and Bandai Namco, only one of which is slightly owned by Nintendo.

In fact, Project Sora was officially shut down on June 30, 2012. I don't think a debunk company is making any games...

I'll concede your second point, I got the names mixed up.

Maybe this will inspire you!!!

My Ultimate Prediction Roster!!! (if sakurai truly wants this to be the best character game ever.)

EVERYBODY WINS!!! (Cue's main theme music)

Yeah, my personal checklist is all here. Pretty sure most people could find something to enjoy here.

 

[MagnesD3]

Well, technically, no. He wanted to resurrect his master. Did he? Yes.
Ghirahim wins. Ghirahim in Smash Bros. please.

And then I pummeled his master to dust.

 

[CJ Falcon]

Well, technically, no. He wanted to resurrect his master. Did he? Yes.
Ghirahim wins. Ghirahim in Smash Bros. please.

But he became a sword and was never heard from again. Just what did ultimately happen to Ghirahim? Was he reincarnated as Aghanim or something?

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Maybe this will inspire you!!!

My Ultimate Prediction Roster!!! (if sakurai truly wants this to be the best character game ever.)

EVERYBODY WINS!!! (Cue's main theme music)

I would kill for a roster like this

 

[pupNapoleon]

Here is my Optimistic Prediction, at 58 characters.

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ADDITIONS

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My roster has 55 characters (plus 3 third parties), for a total of 58. I find it on the optimistic side, absolutely, but I think we will have secret characters in the game for sure, and I just cannot fathom the highly wanted characters of Mewtwo, K Rool, and Ridley not being put in at this time- but I'm not going to get into that, there are many places that discussion is happening at every moment. I'll just put it in as Sakurai is not an idiot. I would also say the fact that we have not seen any of the main old series characters revealed points more heavily that we still could; the big power house reveals would be saved for last. *ignore this statement if you must in judging my roster, we can debate on it separately*

Paper Mario- If we have two Link's, it just seems strange to me to not have two of Nintendo's mascot. I believe, sincerely, this is a huge reason we had Dr Mario in the first place. Paper Mario represents a part of the major Series that we never get any chunk of in smash. Now that a tidbit as been released, he will either be deconfirmed as a part of the stage, AT, or, more.

Dixie- Old awareness, female representation in this game (and she was one of the first known-female main characters we had in Nintendo), her recent rise to stardom again, unique abilities to play.

King K Rool- Kremlings, Falling Boxing Lights, DK64 fan, lack of info, my persona Smash Run experience, Cranky Kong trophy, etc-etc-etc

Vaati- Next most recurring Zelda villain. Flying. Wind mage. Toon helps the dreadful second Link not standout as much. Possible ties to other Zelda villains it seems? Again, some personal bias is in here.

Ridley- He is a playable boss (or something of the sort), or playable. Again, Sakurai is not an imbecile, and I think it would require an extreme level of daftness to do what he has done and not have the character be in. We can argue this game is not fan service- that is why we don't have Shrek. It has been proven to be quite a high level of fan service, he just gives the fans better-than-what-they-wanted.

Duck Hunt Dog- "Retro" if we get one. Cartoon fun animal character to represent Nintendo history, as well as Peripheral of the Nintendo Zapper (which was quite a big deal). Highly original move set and expressive character seem to be on point with what Sakurai looks for, and he is an old game franchise, which Sakurai said he loves.

Shulk- Eh, why not?

Sceptile- Insert my monster post here.

Chibi Robo- Slight bias. I believe I remember Sakurai said something about him at one point; he has a prominent series, unique ideas, is adorable, another electric user we could use. Honestly wouldn't even mind if he needs to be a Pikachu clone. We need more robots!

Isaac- Not fully sure, honestly. Yet I think he has a high probability, we know he is on the radar for Sakurai as he was an AT, has a strong fan base, original move set, and Palutena's push ability seems to be a derivative of his Move; her trailer confirmed for me she, like the Mii's, takes her moves from other characters, as she said she 'does it better than other characters.'

Marshall- Rhythm Heaven sells highly. Creators of Wario ware. Sakurai has said specifically he is a fan of Warioware. It is a unique character. And while others do not believe the video leak, to me, it looks quite legitimate.

Like many, I only cut Snake, Squirtle, and Ivysaur. This is difficult, because Squirtle is my favorite character in fiction/video games at least. I'd personally cut Jigglypuff, Falco, Lucas, if I were trying to keep the roster down- but after some recent evidence I just do not see this being very likely anymore.

And, no, I do NOT expect 11 newcomers yet, that is why it is optimistic. I think we will get a minimum of two more before the release (with between one to two more video releases, which could be up to five characters total) (though possibly a handful if Sakurai wants to go out with a blowout, which could be up to... gosh, who knows!), and then have up to 4 as secret characters in the game, if he is not going for full disclosure. Essentially, I think if Ridley/K Rool are announced before the game, we are unlikely to get any secret characters.

OTHER EXPLANATION

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Newcomers are in red border.

I have my main 6 likely (ish) DLC candidates to the side, explained below. And other possibilities (which are mostly just ones that I want) at the bottom.

I divided them into new series representation, and old series representation.

Also; I believe that Mii fighters are just a create-a-character. Everything we have seen about them points to the fact that they are just this, under a Nintendo name of 'Mii.' They do not even have an intro poser on the site, nor an icon. I count them as 0 characters.

• They have 0 unique moves (other than Final Smash)
  
• None of them has a set 'standard' of what they are. If you said 'Mii Fighter' there is no default.
  
• They will not come up when we select 'random' characters
• We cannot use them in online battles (the icon would just go dim? That would look hideous if in regular CSS slot)
  
• I cannot see how it would work for them to be just another icon, where upon clicking it you would have too many other options- to create new or use a stored one, which of the three options, then create more and more.

It just doesn't make any sense.
Therefore, just as I believe it is in Mario Golf, it is a separate bar at the bottom of the page, as is the random bar.

I took out the characters I wanted to see as DLC but did not deem likely- they were divided into two categories of new series and old series. I believe they were as follows (excluding revealed Assist Trophies/Pokeballs, despite my theory of an upgraded character).
NEW: Muddy Mole, Lip, Ray MK, Pushmo, Balloon Fighter, Andy, Mach Rider, Wonder Red, Donbe and Hikari, Sukapon
OLD: Pokemon Trainer, Team Rocket/Meowth, Anna, Impa, Waddle Dee, Medusa

DLC

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I think there will definitely be DLC: Nintendo has shown a very intelligent awareness as to how much both casual and competitive players love Smash Bros; it was the prime of E3, and had an entire tournament, multiple treehouse viewings, a private roundtable that we could not see but all tuned in to hear (genius), EVO tournament, handheld tournament since, Best Buy demo, and a pure direct for it. All within a few months. We have seen a catering to both sides of the field, with modes available to both fanships, attention to characters on both edges, and additions for both sides as well. The tournaments have bridged the gap as well!

DLC will be a prime way for them to continue to market new franchises to continue to win victory in the video game industry. I think they will utilize DLC to really hype new franchises they are starting to get them into consumer homes as important characters; primarily with Splatoon's Inkling, but likely with Codename Steam as well. I put Captain Toad here because it is a sister Series to Mario, has been receiving a lot of attention (and hinting), and because Nintendo, now aware of Toad's prominence to fans, has a huge reason to add him into a roster he was missing in as much as Ridley is. Somewhat marketing as well.

It would also be the prime way to add third party characters- third parties pay for the development, and at paying for cost, get the advertising of having their characters in Smash (since it should be clear by now to outside parties, being in smash is a victory if you are a video game developer). This is why I have added both Bomberman and Rayman into that category.

Other DLC I Have added as hugely likely are for game releases- this is the Krystal/Bowser Jr category. Mario games are always being released, and Star Fox Wii U is going to come out sometime.
Otherwise we could see many other characters as DLC; it would be strange not to have a Pokemon character.

I think we will get DLC for a good amount of time, quite frankly. It may be incorrect, but this is Nintendo's ... most hyped franchise. I think they are finally respecting that.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

What about Toon Link? I don't say that Zelda doesn't deserve it, but it is not needed, we already have the 3 key characters of the entire series, and 2 iconic and curiously controversial characters by the name of Sheik and Toon Link. Impa doesn't have that iconicy, iconity, ....however the heck it's said. And Sheik already has the badass ninja theme, so she buries Impa even more.

Well sheik didn't have that iconicy before she was put in melee plus there's far more they could do with impa outside of being a ninja, just look at hyrule warriors. Hell give her a katana and make her what takamaru would've been. There'a lot of potential there.

I don't really count toon link since he's really just a redesigned young link

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Maybe this will inspire you!!!

My Ultimate Prediction Roster!!! (if sakurai truly wants this to be the best character game ever.)

EVERYBODY WINS!!! (Cue's main theme music)

I would kill for a roster like this

 

[Rockaphin]

I can see why many consider Yoshi a Mario character, I mean, I do. However, Wario and the Donkey Kong characters have branched off enough to be considered their own. Neither of those characters appear in the main games, only in spin-offs.

In terms of Smash though, Yoshi is considered his own and I feel he should be treated as that.

 

[MagnesD3]

I would kill for a roster like this

I would as well

 

[Kenith]

Well, since we are posting predictions, I will post mine.

53 Characters + Miis.

This is probably the most balanced prediction I have. At the moment, I don't have much confidence for Paper Mario.
But everyone else, yeah, I'm pretty sure about.

This is a 100% Bias-free roster. Really! I promise.

 

[False Sense]

Well, since we are posting predictions, I will post mine.

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53 Characters + Miis.

This is probably the most balanced prediction I have. At the moment, I don't have much confidence for Paper Mario.
But everyone else, yeah, I'm pretty sure about.

This is a 100% Bias-free roster. Really! I promise.

So, no bias with Ghirahim? None at all?

 

[Kenith]

So, no bias with Ghirahim? None at all?

Nope.
None at all.
If I was biased I would have Ghirahim and not Ridley and King K. Rool.

 

[False Sense]

Nope.
None at all.
If I was biased I would have Ghirahim and not Ridley and King K. Rool.

So, in other words, you're pretty sure about every character you have on the roster, including Ghirahim?

 

[Autumn ♫]

I might as well show off mine since I did update the icons some

I think I need to add more Vaati and Dark Pit though.

 

[L9999]

I don't really count toon link since he's really just a redesigned young link

But Toon Link is a way better character than young Link.

 

[Kenith]

So, in other words, you're pretty sure about every character you have on the roster, including Ghirahim?

Yeah.
Except for, believe it or not, Ghirahim.

His chances depend entirely on whether or not Zelda gets a new character, and whether or not there are secret newcomers/DLC.
If there's a Zelda newcomer, I'd gladly take Tetra or Ghirahim.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

But Toon Link is a way better character than young Link.

He's still essentially the same, the only real difference is that they look different

 

[L9999]

He's still essentially the same, the only real difference is that they look different

Toon Link replaces Young Link from Super Smash Bros. Melee, with some noticeable changes in his fighting style.

• Toon Link has more range than Young Link, since he uses the Master Sword (and the latter uses the small Kokiri Sword).
• Toon Link uses his sword for more attacks than Young Link does, due to his shorter legs.
• Toon Link's Hero's Bow shoots farther and charges faster, but his arrows are slower and do not set targets on fire like Young Link's do. However, two can be fired out of a short hop, providing for an effective fence of pain.
• Toon Link's Bombs do not perform combos like Young Link's and are weaker than Link's, but they have a bigger blast radius and a different smoke explosion, which was taken from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker.
• Toon Link's Up Smash is a single slash, rather than three, and it is a much better and stronger finisher.
• Toon Link's recovery is significantly longer, as he has less fall time and higher second and third jumps.
• Toon Link's Neutral, Back, and Forward Airs are different (Nair is two slashes, one forward and one backward, B-air is a standard backward slash, and Fair is a standard forward slash. Young Link's Nair was a Sex Kick, his Fair was two slashes forward, and his B-air was two kicks backwards).
• Toon Link's Down Air goes straight down, is much faster, and is easier to control. However, it is more dangerous to use and can lead to a self-destruct if it is used offstage, does not connect with an opponent, and is not used properly as it is a Stall-Then-Fall that has a long falling distance and will not stop until it is used at very high altitudes, leaving Toon Link unable to recover.
• Toon Link's Down Air meteor smash is in the beginning of the plunge; Young Link could only meteor smash on any frame with his Down Air if the opponent was directly above him and touched the hilt of his sword; this move, unlike Toon Link's, does set opponents on fire if the meteor smash sweetspot connects.
• Toon Link is heavier than Young Link.
• Toon Link is floatier than Young Link.
• Toon Link's boomerang flies farther than Young Link's, however it deals less damage in close range.
• Toon Link does not have a repeating neutral A-combo

 

[Empty Number]

I think this is the second time I do this, but I'll do it again after thinking more and now that Broken Knight is back. Honestly I didn't have any character expectations to begin with, and I wanted Sakurai to surprise me, and he has done it. Unless you bring up Pacman screw Pacman. He really broke new ground on not putting Chrom in, and I going to say it, he did right and rendered the "logical choice" excuse bull.... and thank God he killed the Gematsu leak. Sakurai said he still had some newcomer videos so for playing it safe I'll say it's two. There is no question that Ness, Jiggly, Ganon,Wario, Grab Climbers and Mr. Game and Watch are returning. R.O.B is unique so why not, he saved Nintendo of America so kids, leave him alone. Lucas, I don't know, but Ness is more liked anyways. Still suspisious about Snake, but he is probably cut. Nobody cares about Squirtle and Ivysaur, people only liked using Charizard, they are gone. As of those newcomers.... Mario does NOT need other character, Toad sucks and is Peach's N-Special and DON'T YOU DARE bring the stupid Alfonzo meme. Bowser Jr represents nothing, nuff said. Dr. Mario as an alt. is fine. Dixie? No thanks. DK and Diddy represent enough. StarFox, Falco likely returns, don't know about Wolf, I could care less about him, and not many normal people care about Krystal, but I wouldn't mind if she is in. Too much controversy with StarFox, I'll let Sakurai talk. Zelda doesn't need anyone, they are fine, and facing it, nobody cares about Impa. Pokemon is a total mess, Mewtwo is not a bad idea but again too much controversy, Sakurai will decide his fate. Lucina is our new Roy, and has more interesting character than him. If you supported Roy for Smash 4, and didn't play Fire Emblem 6, go to Coolrom.com and download Fire Emblem 6, you will HATE Roy. Fire Emblem is fine. Wario and Yoshi don't need anyone, they are Mario characters in the core. Ridley is too big and was deconfirmed centuries ago. Kirby is perfect. Chorus Kids, man, boys, or however the hell they are called can sleep with the fish, they are ********. Also, just because Lucina is a clone DOESN'T mean there should be more clones, this is NOT Melee, so stop with the argument "this character could be a clone of the other one because Lucina this..." Black Shadow? No, Captain Falcon is enough. DON'T YOU DARE bringing up Tails, Protoman and any other thinrd party, this is NOT Nintendo VS Sega or Nintendo VS Capcom, Rock, Sonic and Pacman are SPECIAL GUESTS, and adding all those third parties would take out all what makes them SPECIAL GUESTS. If you really want to play with Sonic characters, play Smash Flash or hack textures, but leave Smash 4 alone. If you want to play Zero or Ryu, play Marvel VS Capcom. I'll let Sakurai talk about those said last newcomers, and this is my safest bet of the veterans.

OK. So it sounds like you want precisely zero new characters. I don't want to live in a world where it's "OK" for DK to have 2 reps and FE to have 4.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Toon Link replaces Young Link from Super Smash Bros. Melee, with some noticeable changes in his fighting style.

• Toon Link has more range than Young Link, since he uses the Master Sword (and the latter uses the small Kokiri Sword).
• Toon Link uses his sword for more attacks than Young Link does, due to his shorter legs.
• Toon Link's Hero's Bow shoots farther and charges faster, but his arrows are slower and do not set targets on fire like Young Link's do. However, two can be fired out of a short hop, providing for an effective fence of pain.
• Toon Link's Bombs do not perform combos like Young Link's and are weaker than Link's, but they have a bigger blast radius and a different smoke explosion, which was taken from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker.
• Toon Link's Up Smash is a single slash, rather than three, and it is a much better and stronger finisher.
• Toon Link's recovery is significantly longer, as he has less fall time and higher second and third jumps.
• Toon Link's Neutral, Back, and Forward Airs are different (Nair is two slashes, one forward and one backward, B-air is a standard backward slash, and Fair is a standard forward slash. Young Link's Nair was a Sex Kick, his Fair was two slashes forward, and his B-air was two kicks backwards).
• Toon Link's Down Air goes straight down, is much faster, and is easier to control. However, it is more dangerous to use and can lead to a self-destruct if it is used offstage, does not connect with an opponent, and is not used properly as it is a Stall-Then-Fall that has a long falling distance and will not stop until it is used at very high altitudes, leaving Toon Link unable to recover.
• Toon Link's Down Air meteor smash is in the beginning of the plunge; Young Link could only meteor smash on any frame with his Down Air if the opponent was directly above him and touched the hilt of his sword; this move, unlike Toon Link's, does set opponents on fire if the meteor smash sweetspot connects.
• Toon Link is heavier than Young Link.
• Toon Link is floatier than Young Link.
• Toon Link's boomerang flies farther than Young Link's, however it deals less damage in close range.
• Toon Link does not have a repeating neutral A-combo

But toon link in essence is still the same, for example if there was a twilight princess version of young link and he was brought into brawl, a lot of that changes would likely be made to him anyway

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

Yeah.
Except for, believe it or not, Ghirahim.

His chances depend entirely on whether or not Zelda gets a new character, and whether or not there are secret newcomers/DLC.
If there's a Zelda newcomer, I'd gladly take Tetra or Ghirahim.

or Impa....

 

[Autumn ♫]

or Impa....

Or Vaati

 

[Kenith]

or Impa....

No thank you.
I'm fine with Sheik.

 

[Burruni]

"Pic of the day. Nightmare Wizard appears as an Assist Trophy! He will engulf the stage in darkness, and fighters will need to brawl blindly for a while. Look out for the effect before it goes dark, and play it to your advantage. Blinding and reversal effects even make the computer players mess up."

More Kirby-related news, guys. Are we approaching Dee Day?

PS: Is this... Final Destination form of Battlefield?

 

[L9999]

OK. So it sounds like you want precisely zero new characters. I don't want to live in a world where it's "OK" for DK to have 2 reps and FE to have 4.

I do want new characters but I put my expectations low to get genuine surprises, and I wanted to see the good old veterans. I really didn't expect Fire Emblem to get 4 reps, I was one in the mass that though it would be Marth and Chrom due to mediocre thinking, and then Ike got revealed, and Robin! It had an impact on me so much because I was to stupid to figure Robin as a fighter in Smash Bros because I ignored. And Lucina is a bonus character, she feels redundant at times, but she is popular, and Sakurai knows that. Fire Emblem is a mess in characters like Pokemon, because all the games have different characters and lords. Donkey Kong it's always DK and Diddy so they represent their games enough. In my book, Diddy and Donkey are Mario characters, because they appear in Mario games with no real impact, and I think K Rool was in one those crappy baseball Mario games, and other Mario character is just, no. I know KKR is not a Mario character, but he is from a universe of a character that is a Mario character so I don't see the difference.

 

[pupNapoleon]

"Pic of the day. Nightmare Wizard appears as an Assist Trophy! He will engulf the stage in darkness, and fighters will need to brawl blindly for a while. Look out for the effect before it goes dark, and play it to your advantage. Blinding and reversal effects even make the computer players mess up."

More Kirby-related news, guys. Are we approaching Dee Day?

PS: Is this... Final Destination form of Battlefield?

Apparently you can see updates before I can.

And I really, really thought that was some strange Vaati at first.

PHEW

 

[Starcutter]

I think Nightmares appearance in the stage is a plus for my preferred Kirby newcomer, Dark Matter, than it is for Waddle Dee.

I mean, Dark Matter is pretty much the most prelevant Kirby villian in the franchise, and why would sakurai give nightmare a role over him? Or even Marx for that matter? (Even though IMO Marx would be an epic stage hazard for a Kirby stage, maybe that's why nightmare got the trophy over him)

It doesn't confirm dark matter at all, but it does make me a bit more hopeful.

 

[MagnesD3]

"Pic of the day. Nightmare Wizard appears as an Assist Trophy! He will engulf the stage in darkness, and fighters will need to brawl blindly for a while. Look out for the effect before it goes dark, and play it to your advantage. Blinding and reversal effects even make the computer players mess up."

More Kirby-related news, guys. Are we approaching Dee Day?

PS: Is this... Final Destination form of Battlefield?

I feel Dee Day will be Neverland day, as in its never gonna happen...

 

[Zhadgon]

I do want new characters but I put my expectations low to get genuine surprises, and I wanted to see the good old veterans. I really didn't expect Fire Emblem to get 4 reps, I was one in the mass that though it would be Marth and Chrom due to mediocre thinking, and then Ike got revealed, and Robin! It had an impact on me so much because I was to stupid to figure Robin as a fighter in Smash Bros because I ignored. And Lucina is a bonus character, she feels redundant at times, but she is popular, and Sakurai knows that. Fire Emblem is a mess in characters like Pokemon, because all the games have different characters and lords. Donkey Kong it's always DK and Diddy so they represent their games enough. In my book, Diddy and Donkey are Mario characters, because they appear in Mario games with no real impact, and I think K Rool was in one those crappy baseball Mario games, and other Mario character is just, no. I know KKR is not a Mario character, but he is from a universe of a character that is a Mario character so I don't see the difference.

*Image Removed*

How in the holy Flying Spaghetti Monster does Modern Donkey Kong is inside of Mario Universe (yes they have some games together but majority are Spin Offs and Sports / Party games that in no way affect each other) the worlds, enemies, music, characters, developers are different, hell even the f..ing game mechanics are completely unique of each other and they are both plataformers most of the time. I can see the relation between Yoshi and Mario, and to a lesser extent Wario with Mario.

But you are telling for example that Dixie, Lanky, Chunky and Kiddy are too in the Mario Universe the same with the Tikis and Nomads when they have not appear in any Mario game? Is like saying that the Soul Calibur series is now in the universe of Star Wars, Zelda, Tekken, Assassin's Creed and Spawn because they got playable characters from those franchises or the other way around.

People need to realize that Donkey Kong and Mario are completely different and only Donkey Kong is a guest character in the Mario Spin Offs games that sometimes brings Diddy and other characters with him, the only games that share even a minuscule part of story together are Mario Vs Donkey Kong and I am sure those stories are not cannon in any form, the stories only resemble the past from the first time Mario and Donkey Kong (actually Cranky Kong) fought with implementation of new gameplay and mechanics.

.n_n.

Moderator Edit: Never censor bypass, even with images.

 

[IronFish]

OK. So it sounds like you want precisely zero new characters. I don't want to live in a world where it's "OK" for DK to have 2 reps and FE to have 4.

And for Kirby to have 3

 

[Charkoaler]

The main newcomers i see most requested in this forum (no actual statistic taken just my estimate) are 1. Ridley, 2. King K. Rool and 3. Mewtwo. I see it as very unlikely that all 3 will make it into this installment in the game, mostly because of the ever increasing roster size and some characters i particularly want to see introduced instead COUGH COUGH GHIRAHIM COUGH COUGH. My top pick out of those 3 is Ridley, because i'd rather see more heavy weighted flying characters. Charizard is all alone
EDIT: Also Waluigi
EDIT: As a flying heavy weight

 

[pupNapoleon]

The main newcomers i see most requested in this forum (no actual statistic taken just my estimate) are 1. Ridley, 2. King K. Rool and 3. Mewtwo. I see it as very unlikely that all 3 will make it into this installment in the game, mostly because of the ever increasing roster size and some characters i particularly want to see introduced instead COUGH COUGH GHIRAHIM COUGH COUGH. My top pick out of those 3 is Ridley, because i'd rather see more heavy weighted flying characters. Charizard is all alone
EDIT: Also Waluigi
EDIT: As a flying heavy weight

You see it unlikely that the most requested characters will get in because they are not the character that you want?

 

[Charkoaler]

You see it unlikely that the most requested characters will get in because they are not the character that you want?

Sorry i kinda meant i'd rather see Ghirahim + either 2 or 1 of the big 3. With all the controversy over Ridley's tease as a stage boss or a character and king k rool not having relevance i'm not hopeful on all of them making it in. Ghirahim's just my personal opinion, not even close to as requested as those 3, I worded my sentence wrong and made it seem like the reason it isn't likely all 3 would get in is cause i like ghirahim my bad

 

[Capt. Butt Stallion]

The main newcomers i see most requested in this forum (no actual statistic taken just my estimate) are 1. Ridley, 2. King K. Rool and 3. Mewtwo. I see it as very unlikely that all 3 will make it into this installment in the game, mostly because of the ever increasing roster size and some characters i particularly want to see introduced instead COUGH COUGH GHIRAHIM COUGH COUGH. My top pick out of those 3 is Ridley, because i'd rather see more heavy weighted flying characters. Charizard is all alone
EDIT: Also Waluigi
EDIT: As a flying heavy weight

Well, technically Mewtwo isn't a newcomer. I'd say the most requested are Ridley and K. Rool followed by a bunch of other characters who are kinda likely to make it into the roster (Shulk, RH rep, Ghirahim, Isaac...).

And I honestly feel like we may have the Hype Three this time. Too many things point towards Ridley, the K. Rool hinting is becoming stronger (or maybe we're just really overthinking stuff) and Mewtwo could take the free spot left by Ivysaur, as Greninja took Squirtle's.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I've been thinking about Dark Pit... I know, how unfortunate.
And I am aware that the trailer is quite strange.

The biggest thing used in favor of him is his 'hint' trailer.
Well... I've got to ask, it is only our own opinion's as to what makes up a hint.
What makes this a hint?

If anything, what keeps it from being a red herring? A Complete distraction used to lead us down the wrong path- wherein (just one plausible scenario, but anything else is possible, too) Dark Pit is not the clone newcomer, but in fact, clone Medusa is (and hence, why Palutena has 12 moves)?

Just thinking, @MorbidAltruism and other supporters.
Because what makes a hint, exactly? Sakurai purposefully leading us to a conclusion is particularly strange.

#Medusa4Sm4sh

 

[True Blue Warrior]

How about we talk about a character that we know for sure is in the game for once?
Let's talk about DARK PIT!, i know how much you guys love him Embarrass

Sure why not. *shrugs*

 

[mark welford]

guys I go back to school in a few hours so I would like to get a discussion in before I go back to school