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just because she was a very late addition dosent means sakurai would literally change his criteria for just her.lucina was probably the least popular out of the 3 in regards to smash speculation
What would they do about the wand, though?
I am fairly certain that everyone felt that way to be honest, no one cared about Frokie... that was until Frogadier was revealed. However, that was not yet the extent of the water starter's popularity. Greninja's reveal was unlike any other reveal I have seen regarding Pokemon. It was not even a competition. Suffice it to say, everyone chose Froakie and everyone expected that everyone would choose Frokie once Frogadier was way cooler than those "other" starters.
Actually, despite being viewed and dismissed as impossible due to Chrom's apparent likelihood of getting in, she was a popular character choice for Smash. So many people just thought she couldn't because they expected Chrom.
Hey, Wii Fit sold well.
Sometimes; keeping the character "real to themselves" means that he must sacrifice unique game-play elements. We will probably never see a rage based tag-team character mechanic in Smash, unfortunately. Hence, why I lost hope for "move-set potential" as everyone has it, it just depends on the creative director to creatively direct.
The same thing they did with the sword.
The individual Pikmin models are still inside a single .pac file though, so it's not like with Zelda and Sheik, where their models are in different .pac files.
Puts some purple wings on him, and Ganondorf would be too big for Smash.Allow me to assist you
wow what a funny joke
Yeah I'm placing my proverbial money on Chrom. Lucina has nothing, they would probably have to derive her moveset from Marth if they put her in, and that's a non-canon interpretation.
Dawww but what about uniqueness man, I thought that was the number one priority, what the heck, oh my god i have to rethink my lyfeYeah I'm placing my proverbial money on Chrom. Lucina has nothing, they would probably have to derive her moveset from Marth if they put her in, and that's a non-canon interpretation.
Just saying; Impa can be a Sheik and Greninja clone... at the same time!
Let's take a step back and think like Sakurai for a second.
He likes to tease and he likes to troll.
He wanted to add more females since Brawl, now he gets a real chance to do so.
He has stated simply adding characters to the roster won't do.
His usual selections are based on:
1. Popularity
2. Unique moveset potential
3. Retro revivals.
Based on this criteria alone the Trophy Theory can be correct... however: What if the trophies were put there only to hint at Palutena? The instant I saw Pseudo-Palutena I knew Palutena was in the game because there would be no reason to tease us like that. Just show the trophy and get it over with.
If the Trophy Theory is true, then that leaves us with limited options regarding both LoZ and Metroid.
Metroid should get Ridley, based on criteria 1 and 2.
Zelda could get any of these characters with these criteria:
Impa 1
Girahim 1,2
Vaati 2
Yuga 2
Pig Ganon 2,3
Out of these characters which ones are female?
Impa, yuga and Girahim.
Girahim confirmed
I was just afraid that if I confirmed Pig Ganon I would have to find my mirror shield to deal with all the flames.
she does have water powers in hyrule warriorsYeah I'm placing my proverbial money on Chrom. Lucina has nothing, they would probably have to derive her moveset from Marth if they put her in, and that's a non-canon interpretation.
Just saying; Impa can be a Sheik and Greninja clone... at the same time!
I wish Phoenix Wright could be in. *sigh*
There are a few problems with this post. I won't comment on the yuga and ghirahim being female point, since that is obviously just a joke - one in poor taste, but a joke nontheless. However, popularity and unique moveset potential are highly subjective, and you seem to be implying that Vaati, Yuga and Pig Ganon are not popular. I'm sure a lot of people here would love to correct you on that.
Besides, you missed one criteria: How iconic the character is. If we're going off moveset potential and popularity alone, then surely Agitha would be a highly regarded candidate for a LoZ newcomer. But she isn't. Because she's not iconic. On top of that, she misses out on Smash because Hyrule Warriors was developed after Sm4sh started to be developed. In addition, the trophy theory cannot simply have only been teasing Palutena because we got both Lucina and Robin from the same game that Tiki and the song Id: Purpose was in.
That's because the Pikmin don't do anything and are more an effect for Olimar, not a separate character.
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, Sakurai said that Robin encapsulated the spirit of Fire Emblem well. It's not just popularity/relevance/promince/etc., it's how well they rep the franchise.
Well, the fact that he was a starter in the most recent game is a plus. I think the best way to represent a franchise like Pokemon is to add a newer character that's popular while keeping the more well known characters that are also popular, such as Pikachu and Charizard. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that how Lucario got in Brawl? He was a newer Pokemon too right?Good thought @
I still have a hard time seeing how Greninja reps the Pokemon franchise well, given the Pikachu and Charizard are both starters, but I guess maybe he shows how the starters change each game? Idk.
This is kind of outdated.....My pre SSB4 info roster, I still think that some characters like Paper Mario, Roy, Isaac, K.Rool, and Bandana Dee still have a chance. So disappointed that Goroh is an assist trophy AGAIN, but we always have Black Shadow for our 2nd F-Zero rep needs. Muddy Mole, well....
Eh, there's a few other things, but yeah mostly that
Good sir, thank you for being the one to say this. This is something I was discussing recently with a friend offline. When we look at the other 2 Gematsu characters (not talking about the leak itself and blablabla, just the characters), we have Shulk and Chorus Boys... though a number of people are switching to Marshal.
).Well, while I see your point so far, I think a few Sheik fans may want to have a few words with you
. Granted, I do keep my options open, but if one takes into consideration the trophy quiz theory, the likely scenario for a new Zelda rep would be someone from Skyward Sword. And from that, there are only really two options that are realistic: Ghirahim, and Impa; the problem with the latter is that she could just as easily turn up as an alternate skin for Sheik. Even though Ghirahim's only appeared in one core Zelda title so far, the fact that he is single-handedly responsible for the entire Zelda timeline as we know it makes him very significant, and if he is added, I wouldn't doubt that he could represent the Zelda franchise well and what it is about. He is essentially the originator of that entire legend in of itself.
I have put some thought into Sheik as well before making my statement. Sheik was basically really lucky. I believe that the only reason she was added was because Sakurai thought it would be cool to give Zelda a transformation gimmick. Also the fact that there were only two 3D Zelda games out at the time Melee was being created. Possibly one if it was being developed before Majora's Mask. The Zelda series was still very unexplored when it came to being in 3D. How was Sakurai to know that they wouldn't keep using Sheik throughout the series after it switched into 3D. For all he knew, Sheik could have been a staple. By the time Twilight Princess came out, we had our answer as to how the Zelda series was going to work from there on out. That's probably another reason why Twilight Princess characters weren't added. He wasn't going to cut Sheik though. She became too much of a fan favorite. At the same time, Zelda has had a few alter egos in her games. Adding an alter ego of the title character of the franchise could be considered a good way to represent it. That's a reason why I believe Tetra could be a good choice when it comes to representing Zelda. A couple more things is that Sheik was from Ocarina of Time, one of the most critically acclaimed video games of all time. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is proud of that, and it alone could warrant Sheik's inclusion. Sheik has also been in a couple remakes of said game. Sheik definitely holds enough merits to represent the Zelda franchise than one might initially think.Well, while I see your point so far, I think a few Sheik fans may want to have a few words with you
Even as a one-shot, I wouldn't put it past Sakurai to include him as a playable character. He may not, but at the very least, predicting Ghirahim isn't as outlandish as it may appear. I've seen plenty of hints pertaining to who the remaining roster may consist of. This is why I am sticking to my guns in believing that we'll get a playable 8-Bit Mario based on his Super Mario Bros. look as a new joke retro character and possible sixth rep in the Mario series.
I agree. If there is another character that could possibly represent the Metroid franchise, I think Ridley is the only one.
I made a humorous comment regarding that not too long ago. I basically said that I don't believe Sakurai thinks that much into it when picking out a newcomer. If you want to see my original comment, I believe it's somewhere on page 1,079.
