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but greninja was put out for series that is already popular and I don't see it happening for a splatoon character as much as I enjoyed watching the demo for spatoon
I agree with your statement greninja is a character for a already popular series what I was trying to say was smash is made up of already popular series and that splatoon would need said popularity to even be considered for smash(next installment)
I brought this up the other day, and now with new clones being a thing, I'm certain this roster will be 50+ possibly in the 60's.
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I don't hate it (i used to) but after i read a little about him, i changed my mind, now i'm ok with him (not that i want him, but still if he comes out i will be OK with it)
We do not know who are the starting characters though, so I wouldn't assume that EVERY confirmed character so far will be available right off the bat.
Symmetry. I know Homura never be playable outside of the Mii Gunner, but Shulk is honestly the only non-veteran I care about at this point. I only have her to make everything symmetrical. If I find a way to make it look nice/symmetrical without her, I'll remove her.@BluePsychic why Homura? as far as i know, she's mainly a anime and manga character and appear in a couple of videogames, most of them for cellphones and 1 for PSP
I'm aware of that, but if it happens to be like Brawl and the 3rd parties are unlockable, we'd still have 33 starting characters. Meaning my point still stands.
But it's not just the 3rd parties. Because when he revealed lungi he said he usually doesn't reveal him bc he's always a secret character. So I think it was just special circumstance for him and probably even toon link bc he was revealed because of the windwaker release. So I think quite a few we got are going to be secrets.
I'm only mentioning this, because of the fact that Mario Kart 8 had unlockables, despite revealing the whole cast before release.
I think Luigi, at least, will be an unlockable as well. Sakurai specifically said during his reveal that they usually never talk about him before release, but they made an exception this time because of the Year of Luigi.
Doesn't Mario Kart usually always reveal the whole roster before release? I recall them doing the same for Mario Kart 7 although I can't remember if they did this as well for the other previous games in the series so I could be wrong....
You should join us in the Robin Moveset Speculation Thread, where we discuss at length different theories for his moveset. I like the idea that his recovery is multi-use but he can also burn through the wind tome too quickly and leave him with nothing, much like Olimar's recovery in Brawl or IC's recovery; very good so long as you pay attention (Keeping Pikmin/Nana/Fully stocked wind tome). I'm going to add it to the list of things I think are likely. In one of the pictures of Robin you can see him shooting it out diagonally downward as well, so perhaps it's an incredibly versatile air move that would normally be OP, but using it is incredibly risky? I can't wait to find out.-Copying my post from another thread which I just realized was probably not a good place to post it/I need sleep-
Robin is a truly a difficult character to dissect... Perfect to take a crack at.
Starting with specials, lightning spells seem to be the neutral. I'm assuming that you have a sort of charge meter (without a visible meter of course) in which, when you have a full meter, you perform Arcthunder, after which your meter empties and any subsequent use will be a measly Thunder. For as long as you don't use the attack, the meter will charge back up, with Elthunder being the attack used at half charge. Think of it like the Wario Waft, except with an extremely shorter charge time, presumably. Thoron would be a regular charge attack you would perform by holding the button, and can be done at any time. What I'm unsure of is how the book gets used up, though I assume it just happens if you spam the attack too much, which would leave you without the use of the attack at all with a slightly lengthened time until the meter charges back up and the book returns. Though that's just a guess.
Fire would be the side special with the same mechanic, Arcfire at full charge, Elfire at half, regular Fire at low, spamming loses the book, and you can charge it for the strongest fire attack (I'm not sure what fire spell would be the equivalent of Thoron in Awakening).
The recovery is where things get really tricky, would they actually make a recovery move be limited like this? I believe so, considering the footage in the trailer, and I've got just the idea of how this might work. It's unclear if he goes into a helpless animation as he does go off-screen, but from how it appeared to be used twice in quick succession, I believe this to be a multi-use recovery. Of course the charging mechanic stops this from being the most OP recovery in history, as when you have no book, you would likely end up in an instant helpless fall with no boost whatsoever. That would make this a move you wouldn't want to use just for attacking, rather you would want to keep a full charge so you can Arcwind > Elwind > and Wind back to the stage. You would presumably be able to charge it as well, resulting in a super high boost, but it would leave you helpless as opposed to using it regularly.
Nosferatu appears to be the odd sheep, though that's common of down specials. As Nosferatu doesn't really have any lower forms in Awakening, it'll probably be just a single kind of attack with a single function and no separate charge levels, though spamming it would still make you lose the book. As Nosferatu is a life leaching attack, which appears to be faithfully recreated here, it's a bit of a different take on Ness and Lucas' Magnet, in that you likely have to 'trap' the enemy as you would need to do for a counter, rather than absorbing any projectiles. Of course, it's unclear just how much this damages/heals at this point.
The swords are also quite confusing, some are saying that the regular combo/tilts use the bronze sword, while the Levin sword is used for smash attacks, so I'll just go with that since I have nothing better. The confusing part is the apparent aerial smash attacks, which as mentioned before will likely function as Samus' missiles/super missiles, though I would assume that the right stick will still function as a quick smash (that'll really mess with me as well...) The Levin sword would also disappear if you spam smashes too much, but would appear after a set amount of time. That's all I can gather so far.
Of course the easiest part of his moveset to analyze is his final smash which was blatantly spelled out in the video. He just summons Chrom in his swimsuit to knock out everyone else (for various different reasons).
yeah but that magazine said the same thing about Brawl and didn't even leak the secret characters. I wouldn't trust them.
Nope, I hate him just as much as you, I can't think of a worse character for smash and would literally prefer any otehr nintendo character ever in before him. But I would never say any of that out loud because that would just make people mad and start a word war
You miscounted with Melee. There were 15 starters (14 slots) and 11 unlockables.
Not counting Mii Sword Fighter/Gunner/Brawler as separate for your total calculations is a bit odd considering Sakurai stated they're essentially 3 separate characters. It's the same as counting transformations as separate, so we're really at 38.
I think the only hope for Balloon Fighter is as a clone, now. Villager uses the balloons for his UpB, so it seems somewhat unlikely he'll be a unique character now. I really wouldn't hold my breath for him, to be honest.Nope, I hate him just as much as you, I can't think of a worse character for smash and would literally prefer any otehr nintendo character ever in before him. But I would never say any of that out loud because that would just make people mad and start a word war
Also, from objective people, has Balloom Fighter lost all hope as a retro character? I saw the support thread and got amped, but I know how bias the ppole in those are about a character's chances. Between him or Mach rider I'd be too pumped.
Photoshop is a thing.
It's clearly a different model. It's more zoomed out, the proportions are different, he's much less shiny, and the angle is different.
Are you trying to convince me that he's playable? Please don't try to break my heart.
Both ROB and Game and Watch are veterans and most people here do not like the idea of characters cuts. Plus, without those two, neither Mach Rider or Balloon Fighter would probably exist.
The one they posted on Facebook looks a lot less HD. I think that must've been what they sent sakurai for the trophy, and then it was touched up for the game.Don't know if this has been posted before, but the official Rayman Facebook page posted a different version of the Rayman trophy on Facebook...in fact, it looks like a totally different model:
https://www.facebook.com/rayman/photos/a.147085182159900.1073741828.131255823742836/263553863846364/
Oh I didn't mean for them to be cut, nor do I argue against their historical significance to the ideo game industry. I just find them (or their movesets rather) very bland and not very exciting. I want a unique retro character to come be brought in who brings something new to the table, instead of the most generic robot moveset or a mishmash of random objects being swung around. They're fine characters as historical industry reps, and we have those, so why not bring in someone cool. YOu have to admit that when each was revealed at their time, not many people were excited, hell people still hate ROB
