SymphonicSage12
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I still don't think this is available with the latest nightly build. Can you please make a gct of roy with the latest nightly build?
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Challenger Approaching!!! ROY!! .PAC UP!!!! 12/7/09 at 3:36 AM EST
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SymphonicSage12
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The Immortal Sir NZ
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Well since Marth's F-smash is also Roy's F-smash, you would have the same animation doing two different things so I'm not sure that's what GoG had in mind...
and btw symphonicsage, in your sig it says braw +, not brawl +
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OK, I fixed my sig, but.... can someone please just at least post the codes in text so we can add them to the latest nightly build text file? Please?
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since we are not giving him his foreard smash for his neutral b atleast set his sword completely on fire when using neutral b (it looks cool) and slow it down
Just had a (slightly more complicated) new idea for Roy's neutral B: would be be possible to give him the last hit of Marth's side B, but extremely slowed down? The charging animation could be the same as his Fsmash, or we could replace it with the windup animation for the Home-Run Bat or something. If slowed down enough and set on fire, it would be more of a unique attack than using the exact same animation as Marth's Fsmash, and it already glows red.
NxtGenFalco93
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i agree with wander on the neutral b, and you could just take out the last hit of his side b because the third hit smashes opponents too far away for the last one to hit usually anyway.
NintenJoe
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can roy get his own character slot? just curious
colored blind
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It's been mentioned a LOT before. We need a working clone engine first, and until that happens, the only way to get Roy in the game is to replace Marth. So as of now, no.
It's being worked on, but right now, no. The plan is to have a set of codes that create a sort of duplicate character panel on the CSS and have one load the base character and the other load the clone. But for the moment, the codes just replace Marth.
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I also would like to get a GCT of Roy.
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ROY WITH LATEST NIGHTLY BUILD!!!!
*continues chanting with picket signs*
*continues chanting with picket signs*
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ROY WITH LATEST NIGHTLY BUILD!!!!
*Chants with SS12 with picket signs*
*Chants with SS12 with picket signs*
tsunami70875
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you know, why don't you just find the changes yourself and add them to your codeset? or, better yet, help everyone else out as well and make a PAC file with the changes
camelot
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I made a post for a new Roy in the PSA character submission thread. Guess I'll copy-paste it here.
It's Roy, from Melee!
("Shin no tatakai wa... korekare da!")
Roy may be a clone of Marth, but he has a different style of play. Instead of spacing to hit with the tip of the sword, he must hit with the hilt or the middle of the blade instead. The tips are pretty weak and have extremely low knockback, so leave no room between you and your opponent. Of course, this makes Roy a more dangerous character to play as compared to Marth.
(You're doing it wrong! Don't hit with the tip!)
Roy is a faster falling and very slightly heavier character. That means he's harder to KO vertically, but his faster falling hinders his recovery some.
Roy's aerial attacks are generally of medium damage, and low knockback. You know what that means, right? Combos, combos, and more combos, which is further helped by his brilliant combo starter, d-tilt, a very fast poke attack that pops the opponent into the air.
He possesses 2 strong, quick finishers, f-smash and d-smash, as well as his old u-smash, a fiery attack that hits up to 5 times.
(Bang! The middle of the blade hits upward, and the tip spikes downward.)
His weaknesses? Well, Roy is somewhat susceptible to getting combo'd, has mediocre recovery, and relies heavily on his f-smash and d-smash to gain KO's (although you can occasionally spike with d-air, but it isn't too reliable anyway).
Other stuff:
Specials:
- Neutral-B, Flare Blade, is a slash instead of a stab, has faster wind-down, and makes an explosion on full charge. I still have to make the charging work the same as in Melee, but unfortunately, I'm not sure how to do that yet.
- Side-B, Double-Edged Dance, is unchanged, since (as of right now) you can't change the speeds of stuff. Maybe I'll improvise somehow...
- Up-B, Blazer, is unchanged other than being fire and hitting upwards.
- Down-B, Counter, is fire, but still does the same damage and knockback.
Other other stuff:
- Roy runs slightly slower than Marth.
- "Tipper" hits are bigger.
- D-air has a weak spike, but it is difficult to hit with. The opponent must be directly underneath you, or right on top of you.
- U-smash hits 5 times, with the tip spiking (on all hits except the last), and the middle of the blade hitting upward.
- Final Smash sends sideways rather than at an angle.
- Side-taunt looks funky.
(Flare Blade.)
.pac Download: <link removed, scroll down for v2>
Textures (many thanks to Steelia for helping with these):
Regular Roy: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mvzttgkmwjk
Green Roy: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wmtojytoijn
(There are other colors of Roy in the other Roy thread, but to be completely honest, they are of lesser quality.)
Try Roy out, and see what you think. This works in both Brawl and Brawl+ (obviously), but I recommend Brawl+ for all of his combo-y goodness.
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Version 2 of Roy:
-Up-B, Blazer, hits up to 7 times for up to 14 damage. It's really hard to peg someone with all 7 hits, though, so it usually ends up doing 8-11 damage. Also has a new effect.
-Side-B, Double-Edge Dance, has been changed to mimic the one in Melee (although I still can't change the speeds). It even has some KO potential at higher %'s.
-You don't lose momentum from running if you dash-cancel a f-smash.
-D-smash tipper hitboxes fixed (have more knockback, different angle).
-U-air hitboxes last slightly longer.
(New Blazer effect.)
Download v2 (rename as FitMarth.pac): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2mdgm2lq2mz
Roy
It's Roy, from Melee!
("Shin no tatakai wa... korekare da!")
Roy may be a clone of Marth, but he has a different style of play. Instead of spacing to hit with the tip of the sword, he must hit with the hilt or the middle of the blade instead. The tips are pretty weak and have extremely low knockback, so leave no room between you and your opponent. Of course, this makes Roy a more dangerous character to play as compared to Marth.
(You're doing it wrong! Don't hit with the tip!)
Roy is a faster falling and very slightly heavier character. That means he's harder to KO vertically, but his faster falling hinders his recovery some.
Roy's aerial attacks are generally of medium damage, and low knockback. You know what that means, right? Combos, combos, and more combos, which is further helped by his brilliant combo starter, d-tilt, a very fast poke attack that pops the opponent into the air.
He possesses 2 strong, quick finishers, f-smash and d-smash, as well as his old u-smash, a fiery attack that hits up to 5 times.
(Bang! The middle of the blade hits upward, and the tip spikes downward.)
His weaknesses? Well, Roy is somewhat susceptible to getting combo'd, has mediocre recovery, and relies heavily on his f-smash and d-smash to gain KO's (although you can occasionally spike with d-air, but it isn't too reliable anyway).
Other stuff:
Specials:
- Neutral-B, Flare Blade, is a slash instead of a stab, has faster wind-down, and makes an explosion on full charge. I still have to make the charging work the same as in Melee, but unfortunately, I'm not sure how to do that yet.
- Side-B, Double-Edged Dance, is unchanged, since (as of right now) you can't change the speeds of stuff. Maybe I'll improvise somehow...
- Up-B, Blazer, is unchanged other than being fire and hitting upwards.
- Down-B, Counter, is fire, but still does the same damage and knockback.
Other other stuff:
- Roy runs slightly slower than Marth.
- "Tipper" hits are bigger.
- D-air has a weak spike, but it is difficult to hit with. The opponent must be directly underneath you, or right on top of you.
- U-smash hits 5 times, with the tip spiking (on all hits except the last), and the middle of the blade hitting upward.
- Final Smash sends sideways rather than at an angle.
- Side-taunt looks funky.
(Flare Blade.)
.pac Download: <link removed, scroll down for v2>
Textures (many thanks to Steelia for helping with these):
Regular Roy: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mvzttgkmwjk
Green Roy: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wmtojytoijn
(There are other colors of Roy in the other Roy thread, but to be completely honest, they are of lesser quality.)
Try Roy out, and see what you think. This works in both Brawl and Brawl+ (obviously), but I recommend Brawl+ for all of his combo-y goodness.
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Version 2 of Roy:
-Up-B, Blazer, hits up to 7 times for up to 14 damage. It's really hard to peg someone with all 7 hits, though, so it usually ends up doing 8-11 damage. Also has a new effect.
-Side-B, Double-Edge Dance, has been changed to mimic the one in Melee (although I still can't change the speeds). It even has some KO potential at higher %'s.
-You don't lose momentum from running if you dash-cancel a f-smash.
-D-smash tipper hitboxes fixed (have more knockback, different angle).
-U-air hitboxes last slightly longer.
(New Blazer effect.)
Download v2 (rename as FitMarth.pac): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2mdgm2lq2mz
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Does this Roy still have the sexy tipper reverse knockback?
Roy-G-Biv
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And does this or goodolganon's Roy have that invisible ceiling glitch?
Like displayed in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-YlJZYPjLs
CountKaiser
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Dark Sonic
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Camelot, do you think you could add GoG's hitbox changes to your Roy? The reverse tippers were a very popular addition that made it strangely easy to make Roy a contender while still being different from Marth.
The frame speed changes can just run in conjunction with the Roy set (I'll ask GoG to make a Roy build with the newest nightly
)
Here's hoping to having a nearly COMPLETE Roy
The frame speed changes can just run in conjunction with the Roy set (I'll ask GoG to make a Roy build with the newest nightly
)Here's hoping to having a nearly COMPLETE Roy
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How the **** are we supposed to know what the ****ing changes are if they're alread in a gct? We'd need to ****ing have the text file to do that.you know, why don't you just find the changes yourself and add them to your codeset? or, better yet, help everyone else out as well and make a PAC file with the changes
I've already tried in the code requests, agenda, and ****ing in this topic. Nothing worked.
AND the text file on the front page doesn't include the changes for roy.
Also, it's such a big difference to make a roy, and to make a mewtwo. Wow. But I'm still rooting for both. :D
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timothyung
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Isn't the txt in the first post? Just find someone to port Roy to PSA... or just let GoG to do so. Then just take camelot's uSmash, and upB edits, and fix little things like side B speed and nB. Edit the frame speed with the codes. There you go, almost perfect Roy
tsunami70875
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Code:
Slow Roy down (run speed)
This codeset contains parts of the newest Nightly build. Think of it as a teaser because I'm busy getting ready to go out of town. Ganon's side-b is untechable amongst a few other things. I think an early beta form of DJC is in here too. I also had to remove all of Lucas's frame speed ups for Roys. Basically, I'd steer clear of the Mother boys.
CHANGE LIST FROM vBRAWL MARTH
Code:
HITBOX ADJUSTMENTS
Jabs (Non tipped): Down to 12 base from 20. Angle from special 20 to 55.
Jabs (Tipped): Up to 45 base from 30
F-tilt (blade): Up to 12 damage from 9. 75 growth from 70.
F-tilt (tip): Damage down to 10 from 12. Down to 75 growth from 80 and 50 growth from 40. Angle from special 20 to 110.
D-tilt (blade hits) Angle changed from 30 to 85 KBG from 40 to 58 BKB from 40 to 59
D-tilt (tip): Damage dropped from 10 to 7.
F-smash (blade): Damage from 14 to 17. KBG from 70 to 76 and BKB from 60 to 65. Angle from special 20 to 35
F-smash (tip): Damage from 19 to 11. KBG from 70 to 40. BKB from 80 to 55. Angle from special 20 to 110.
D-smash (blade): Damage from 14 to 17. BKB from 70 to 63.
D-smash (At Roy’s feet): Damage from 14 to 20. Angle from special 20 to 110.
D-smash (tip): From 19 damage to 8. Added hitstun ID. Angle from 70 to 160.
That was all the first swing. The second swing is the same junk, just slightly lower damage added or subtracted.
U-smash (tip): Damage changed from 14 to 5 Angle changed from 90 to 270 KBG from 70 to 60 BKB from 40 to 45 Changed hitbox type to flame
U-smash (blade and sides of Roy) Changed hitbox type to flame.
N-air (initial swing): Unchanged
N-air (second swing, on Roy): Unchanged
N-air (second swing, blade hit): KBG from 90 to 65.
N-air (second swing, tip): Damage from 13 to 7. Angle from Special 20 to 115.
F-air (blade): Damage from 10 to 9. KBG from 70 to 10. BKB from 50 to 90. Angle from special 20 to 45.
F-air (tip): Damage from 13 to 5. KBG from 80 to 75 and BKB from 40 to 35. Angle from special 20 to 123.
B-air (blade) Damage from 11 to 14. BKB from 30 to 35. Angle from special 20 to 33.
B-air (tip) Damage from 14 to 12. KBG from 90 to 20. BKB from 30 to 60. Angle from special 20 to 260.
D-air (hilt): 12 damage from 13. BKB from 30 to 35. Angle from special 20 to 270.
D-air (blade): 12 damage from 13. KBG from 70 to 55. BKB from 40 to 15.
D-air (tip): Switched Marth’s blade d-air hit to the tip.
D-air (VERY tip): Slightly higher values reduced to the values above.
U-air (blade): Damage from 10 to 7. KBG from 70 to 72 BKB from 40 to 35. Added hitstun ID. Angle from 8p to 90.
U-air (tip): Damage from 13 to 6. KBG from 80 to 30. BKG from 40 to 15. Added hitstun ID. Angle from 80 to 270.
Neutral B: There were a few differences between the tip and blade hits, but I just homogenized the move all across. All shield breaks not fully charged do 1% more damage with the fire ID. The fully charged hit does 50 damage from 18 and has the fire ID as well.
Down-B: 12 damage from 8. Added Fire ID.
Side-B: Who cares? It’s getting redone.
Up-B: Up-B has 3 different types of hit. The initial strong hit, any time you connect for about the first half of the move, and any time you connect during the second half. In order their original values were:
-13 Damage, KBG 68, BKB 70. Angle special 20. Slash ID
-7 Damage, KBG 90, BKB 20. Angle special 20. Slash ID
-6 Damage, KBG 90, BKB 20. Angle 74. Slash ID.
The ENTIRE move was given one set value which is as follows:
9 damage, KBG 0, BKB 150. Angle 100. Fire ID.
Dash attack (blade): Angle 45 to 130. BKB from 70 to 75.
Dash attack (tip): unchanged
Get up attack and Grab attack: added fire
FRAME ADJUSTMENTS:
All of Roy’s ALR is set to 40%...
Except U-air, which is 20%
N-air is 25% quicker after frame 19.
Up-b frames 1-3 at 2 times normal speed in order to bypass some invincibility frames
Up-b travels 20% slower after frame 3.
F-tilt twice as fast after frame 11.
F-smash being put at half speed, then put at 2x speed, then set back to normal.
D-tilt 25% faster after frame 21. This does not interfere with the IASA frames (which start on 21) but instead allows faster actions after a d-tilt.
D-air is 20% faster after frame 10. Drops the move from 50 frames to 40.
U-smash is 35% slower after frame 2 till 21 where it is sped up by 4x the normal amount.i actually also got bored and did this yesterday (also made up-smash and blazer multihit, and changed neutral animation among other stuff), but haven't tested it yet
SymphonicSage12
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I meant like the codes...
As in, the actual codes that make marth roy? The actual codes that change him?
As in, the actual codes that make marth roy? The actual codes that change him?
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So, does anyone have the CODES for the roy changes?
colored blind
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Page 53. Leaf already posted them. Good job reading the topic. All you need are the physics changes, which I'm sure are a lot easier to find than all the codeset.
timothyung
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You know, it seems that he doesn't know what lines of the codes affects Marth
frame speed data, grav/jump value, hitbox mod(which can be done through PSA) :the lines starting with 11
And you can't just edit it. Go to the agenda to see the byte count and the format
frame speed data, grav/jump value, hitbox mod(which can be done through PSA) :the lines starting with 11
And you can't just edit it. Go to the agenda to see the byte count and the format
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No, like, with young link, you just added the codes to make link into young link. >.>
and I want brawl+ setup, not vbrawl
and I want brawl+ setup, not vbrawl
colored blind
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Those codes only affect how Link looks. He doesn't play any different than Link other than having a shorter sword. Roy looks the exact same as Marth, except for the textures. Now are you asking for textures, or codes that make Marth play differently?
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the codes that make marth play differently. What codes do I add (or am I replacing other codes here?) to make marth into roy?
Sorry being a ***** about it, it's just that I'm a little frustrated (and go overboard sometimes.)
Sorry.
And I need roy with the latest nightly build. So, if I could have just the roy codes and not the official codeset with it, that would be just dandy. :D
Sorry being a ***** about it, it's just that I'm a little frustrated (and go overboard sometimes.)
Sorry.
And I need roy with the latest nightly build. So, if I could have just the roy codes and not the official codeset with it, that would be just dandy. :D
colored blind
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Well, except for the jump/grav modifiers, all that should be in the code I posted, which had already been posted by Leaf earlier in the topic. I don't know what codes replace Marth in the Nightly, so you'll have to figure that out, and replace them with the codes for Roy.
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OK... I have (some) idea of what you just said... I guess I'll try. XD
nvm about what I just erased. but, what are the jump and grav values for Roy? (for brawl+ setup)
nvm about what I just erased. but, what are the jump and grav values for Roy? (for brawl+ setup)
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CAmelot you are too epic. wait can you bring back the reverse tipper?
colored blind
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Bah. I meant, 'The codes that modify Marth in the nightly.' It's a chore to find all of them and replace them with the codes that replace Marth with Roy. Plus, GoG did say he had to delete codes for other characters to make room for Roy's, so you might end up running into the too much code problem. It will likely end up being a huge pain, which is why no one really wanted to do it for you. If you do figure it out though, I'm sure people would be extremely happy about you posting them here.
Though, on the nightly topic, they did say almost everything was ported over to .pacs, so deleting all the Marth stuff would be a lot easier (just frame speed modifiers and the .pac I think). Of course, we also don't know how much stuff is directly being ported from the .gcts to the .pacs, so...Your choice.
On topic, though, I'm curious to know what GoG's agenda is for Roy now that PSA has been released.
Though, on the nightly topic, they did say almost everything was ported over to .pacs, so deleting all the Marth stuff would be a lot easier (just frame speed modifiers and the .pac I think). Of course, we also don't know how much stuff is directly being ported from the .gcts to the .pacs, so...Your choice.
On topic, though, I'm curious to know what GoG's agenda is for Roy now that PSA has been released.
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The codemanager I use on homebrew doesn't have a line limit, so I don't need to worry about that. Although I DO need to know the values for Marth's jump and grav and roy's, which will be a ****ING huge pain.Bah. I meant, 'The codes that modify Marth in the nightly.' It's a chore to find all of them and replace them with the codes that replace Marth with Roy. Plus, GoG did say he had to delete codes for other characters to make room for Roy's, so you might end up running into the too much code problem. It will likely end up being a huge pain, which is why no one really wanted to do it for you. If you do figure it out though, I'm sure people would be extremely happy about you posting them here.
Though, on the nightly topic, they did say almost everything was ported over to .pacs, so deleting all the Marth stuff would be a lot easier (just frame speed modifiers and the .pac I think). Of course, we also don't know how much stuff is directly being ported from the .gcts to the .pacs, so...Your choice.
On topic, though, I'm curious to know what GoG's agenda is for Roy now that PSA has been released.
colored blind
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That, in addition to the fact that they were already posted, is why people were more or less ignoring you.
(quotes self)
I'm more curious about this than anything else.
I'm also curious if the .pacs will overwrite all the Marth codes in the .gct, because it'll make using Roy a lot easier. You just need to replace the frame speed modifiers, unless I'm mistaken. Camelot, Tsunami, do either of you know?
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I thought the thing you posted didn't include roy's jump values. or marth's. >.>