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Chaingrabbing Sheik

Zhenkai

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From what I recall it's at a fresh stock, dthrow then a couple of uthrows I think, from 0% to maybe 40%? I don't play Sheiks too often anymore.
 

Windrose

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I think you can chain grab her at a fresh stock with down throw no matter how she di. from 0% to 20? Not sure about the range cap but it is a guaranteed re grab if you are fast enough...confirm?
 

BigD!!!

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you can get dthrow if they dont DI or DI in

you can get uthrow if they DI away

reneblade, if youre uthrowing a sheik at 50 and they DI in, im pretty sure they can nair out
 

Mokumo

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darc does that **** all the time. I don't think he plays anymore but if I ever see him again I'll ask him about it. There's some video of hax vs dazwa where he does some cg **** and darc talks about it for a second. I remember watching him play falcon a few times and he would alternate between dthrow and uthrow because that can mess up people's DI if you do it nice and fast. of course if you're playing a sheik worth their **** its not going to matter

but yeah uthrow or dthrow tends to work only at a fresh stock and not for very long because they usually start to DI out of it.

I think another important question is when does nair start to work out of dthrow or uthrow? i know it's pretty early %. and of course it depends on their DI and such for each throw.
 

Aussierob123

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Serious question, when uthrowing shiek, at what percent does it combo into nair? I only tend to use it around 30% because if they DI in at a lower percent I get baired or naired and At much higher percents its the same deal. But I see hax hitting that **** all the time.

Also, if uthrow isn't going to lead into nair, do I uair or just use Dthrow and something else?

EDIT: oh snap mokumo just asked the same question lol sorry I didn't see it.
 

Scar

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Serious question, when uthrowing shiek, at what percent does it combo into nair? I only tend to use it around 30% because if they DI in at a lower percent I get baired or naired and At much higher percents its the same deal. But I see hax hitting that **** all the time.

Also, if uthrow isn't going to lead into nair, do I uair or just use Dthrow and something else?

EDIT: oh snap mokumo just asked the same question lol sorry I didn't see it.
this is hardly ever safe

in my experience uair comes out so much better

running at sheik feigning nair and then dashdancing away is also a good option -- if they double jump you can sh uair dj uair and kill her (at almost any %), and if they land with an aerial you can grab when they land

if they don't do anything then they're entering a mix-up game where nair is safe
 

Jeapie

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lol hi Witchblade ^^

the answer is no.

if you di right or left its no.

if you dont di, its yes.

at like 0-15% when not diing you can hit falcon with a nair before his grab or even his jabs come out if your fast enough.

Adam did this on me in tourney.

So NO on chaingrabbing falcon - sheik
 

Kike_Ichigo

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If you want to chaingrab just for owneage i recommend to you Techchase more than Chaingrab, anyways.... if you REALL WANT TO chaingrab most of the time you need to try Uthrow at 0% to lke 15% or 20%, an then it must be Dthrow until 35% when you can start to be a Sheik killer, remember, most of the Times the Sheik's will want you to try to do a combo when you cant, its better to camp a hit like Stomp, or techchase Grabs, than try something risky like Chaingrabs or Nair-Pwnage.... that'smy perception about Sheik's, i play all the tims against one because my best friend play Sheik's... so... I have a little experiencie against them... but I hope that will be usefull for you!

Atte: **** (RAI) 2nd Place Maracay, Aragua, Venezuela
 

0Room

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Guys don't CG
Just go Dthrow->uthrow

Almost never escapeable
I mean Falcon's grabs do like 4% anyway.
So uthrow->uair or nair
Nair has issues in the fact that it'll hit the first one and not the second one sometimes.
 
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