In all games people are forced to switch there mains becasue there main hasreached its peak of growth and the characters around him are still evoloving. When a game first comes out the field is pretty balanced. But as the game evolves some character grow fast some slow. Some stop growing. You can main those that stopped growing, but you will lose to people (yes even those with less skill then you) because they ahd a more capable character.
The thing is, though, that people are switching mains from characters who have seemingly GREAT potential. It isnt that their growth has stunted, its that the discovery of these infinite grabs has forced the players to stop developing their character. Ness has some serious potential, and if it werent for the Marth/Charizard/Squirtle release grab, he might of eventually hit high tier, mid tier at the very least.
The infinites arent part of an "advancing" metagame for the characters who have them (aside from IC's), they're little things found that hurt other's metagames. DK is awesome, but Dedede just has to grab him and it's a stock. This hurts their tournament usage, and that in turn hurts his still developing metagame. An infinite DOESNT help the character who has it even half as much as it hurts the character who's the victim. Marth does fine vs Ness normally, and the CG gives him an even bigger boost, but it doesnt help him anywhere but that one matchup.
It's to the logic, when playing competitive play to win. And if you say thats cheap, then you are weighed down by these rules you have created of cheapness. And if you can get over the mental block that tells you that those methods are cheap, then those less skilled players who got over thinking it was "cheap" will be a better player then you.
I didnt mention "cheapness". I also already know Sirlin's article, so you don't need to write a summary of it. Stick to what I said if you quote me. Infinites, not CG's.
You can argue its cheap, its broken, but if you are losing to it and not doing anyhting to beat it you are the "weaker" player. And if you say you can beat it, then you are a hypocrite, becasue thats clearly shows its not broken.
Again, didnt mention it being broken or cheap.
I dont beat it as a player, I'm blessed that G&W is mostly unharmed when it comes to ANY CG. Those who beat it play Snake.
plaiyng competitive is not the same as a friendly match for "fun" where you are not trying to excell in a game. If you wanna excel stop thinking its cheap, and think you have to be "honorable" and "not cheap" to be good. People are beating those "Cheap" tactics everyday. But some of you can't.
Again, stop referencing Sirlin. I didnt mention cheapness.
I just gave what I think of infinites, the things that ruin metagames.
Anything goes in a tournament as long as it isnt against the rules.
And if you are arguing about it and STILL beating their "Cheap" tactics then I dont understand your arguement. How can it be broken if you are beating it? Are you god that can over come all brokenness?
Didnt call it cheap, for the fourth time.
I beat it because I play G&W.
Those who play Ness are shafted if they go to a tourney because the opponent just has to counterpick to Marth and hit grabgrabgrab.
Seriously, I dont know why you went off in such a tangent when I didnt say a word about CGing being cheap. I mentioned my personal dislike for the grab infinites, which fit into the realm of CG's. I dont main someone who gets affected, I second DK but mostly play G&W, so its not that I get beat by CG'd.
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, aleast chain grabs are easier to DI out of (Or so i've been told) i'm in europe :/
