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#HBC | Dark Horse

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hmm..
if he proves this I'll support PL'ing zen.
Vote:Dark Horse
You didn't realy seem to explain your TA thing very well.
Since we could amend stuff, I figured there could be no loss, as everything wrong could just be removed. The thing is, if we leave no penalty for having a different opinion than the majority, then there is no reason for the group to exist.

RR's push on zen is grimy as hell. Not only is he advocating a policy lynch, he's advocating it mostly because of what happened to himself in SF2 mafia. Not only is that pretty self-centered, it could be showing how RR doesn't want to be attacked, hence the push on Zen.

Vote: RR
 

#HBC | Mac

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RR's push on zen is grimy as hell. Not only is he advocating a policy lynch, he's advocating it mostly because of what happened to himself in SF2 mafia. Not only is that pretty self-centered, it could be showing how RR doesn't want to be attacked, hence the push on Zen.

Vote: RR
wtf are you talking about?

also, you didn't answer either of my questions
 

#HBC | Dark Horse

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wtf are you talking about?

also, you didn't answer either of my questions
This quote:

He tried to bribe Swiss and Ryker to lynch me over Deitz, then he strawmanned me for the rest of the day, going as far as a fake lie detector claim, which for some reason people believed, almost got me lynched if not for Swiss and Ryker telling them to shut up and vote Deitz.

Deitz flips scum, I shoot him during the night for going that far to defend him.

He did this obnoxiously for D1.
This is his "evidence" for why we should policy lynch zen.

I answered your question about the disbanding.

I thought that they shouldn't be allowed to join again because I thought that they shouldn't try and cling onto it as some sort of act of desperation.

Doesn't really matter, as it's been disbanded.
 

Kantrip

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Inferno replaced out because he couldn't handle me calling him obvscum, of course.

I was fine with deserters not rejoining because it's a group no one should want to rejoin anyways.
 

#HBC | marshy

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http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14215566&postcount=1025

^ the above is evidence that axel is actually a communist dictator outside of this game meaning his partiality to a regime here is consistent with his personality thus making him likelier to be town

boy scumxels town alliance reminds me of that time in mafia tournament sleepover when i was scum and made a bro alliance so i could hide easier even tho one of my scumbuddies was in that thang. needless to say i was outraged when i saw him propose something similar in this game how scummy and awful

/in libertarian socialist town alliance

man i am going to miss inferno. lol sike just his avatar

alright alright alrrriiiiighht!!

vote x1 12
 

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He is, you gotta just look for what his general long term plan is if he is scum. When he plays scum he makes a game plan, he will change this as the game goes on, but he still keeps a long term plan he fleshes out.

Find the plan, find OS scum.

Joey & Orbo: What of you think of Inferno's vote on me? It comes off as pretty slightly scummy as a reach vote but it's possible he doesn't see where my idea comes from.
thanks for the OS info.
it seems pretty odd. voting you for that reason this early.. idk.
Since we could amend stuff, I figured there could be no loss, as everything wrong could just be removed. The thing is, if we leave no penalty for having a different opinion than the majority, then there is no reason for the group to exist.

RR's push on zen is grimy as hell. Not only is he advocating a policy lynch, he's advocating it mostly because of what happened to himself in SF2 mafia. Not only is that pretty self-centered, it could be showing how RR doesn't want to be attacked, hence the push on Zen.
Vote: RR
alright. that's sufficient for now.nvote
DH, no no no, lynching Axel will always be a pro town move. We should make it happen once we work out more with X1.

:phone:
why is that always protown?
 

#HBC | marshy

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is it okay if we toss that question to frozen? i think itd be a good question for him. i wonder why you specifically want me to answer it

i was hoping youd forget about that question actually
 

X1-12

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hi Zenny, do you still have OS as null? his play is imo clearly unplanned/spontaneous - do you agree and if so do you take it to be a town tell? Also DH is town yes?

@DH: How does being salty = being scum? And how does pushing a PL on someone = show that RR doesn't want to be attacked? Try actually thinking before posting and tell me what you think about any one of Rockin/Macman/Zen

I liked Dark Horse, but I don't know 100% because apparently he's been viewed as scummy by a lot of others. Then again, I didn't like Pink Lemonade, yet others that participated in pre-game did, sooo...
Why does the bolded matter at all? It looks like you're avoiding giving your opinion because either you're only pretending have one or you don't want to disagree with people - which is it and why is it the case??
 

Dooms

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It mattered because I skimmed the pre-game 2-3 times, and I could have missed something he did or read something wrong, since the people that actually participated and got everything from it viewed Dark Horse as scummy.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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I'll cover X1 later when I'm off of work but I'm here to remind you all we gotta policy lynch Axel before the day is over.

This will happen today.

:phone:
 

#HBC | marshy

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kantrip

why would you even WANT a delfino as your avatar? they dont...do anything
 

Axel

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@X1: OS town. DH town.
These are all just initial interpretations. Of course they will both need more looking at, especially OS. There isn't enough to say just yet.

@mod: I'm replacing out. J is staying in as far as I know though he hasn't been online as far as I know.

I was looking forward to playing with the veterans, but I foresee playing with Ryu as not being very enjoyable. It's nothing against you at all Ryu, it's just draining and I'm not really up to it.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Deadline set for 4/10 at 11:59 PM!

frozenflame751- (0)
KevinM- (0)
X1-12- (5) Kantrip, Red Ruy, Macman, J, Marshy
Rajam- (0)
Rockin- (0)
Dark Horse- (1) Orbo
Macman- (0)
marshy- (0)
Chaco- (0)
Pink Lemonade (Ranmaru/July hydra)- (0)
Kafkaesque- (0)
J- (2) Dooms, Overswarm
Red Ryu- (2) Inferno, Dark Horse
Orboknown- (0)
Kantrip- (0)
Dooms- (1) X1-12
Overswarm- (0)
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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@X1: OS town. DH town.
These are all just initial interpretations. Of course they will both need more looking at, especially OS. There isn't enough to say just yet.

@mod: I'm replacing out. J is staying in as far as I know though he hasn't been online as far as I know.

I was looking forward to playing with the veterans, but I foresee playing with Ryu as not being very enjoyable. It's nothing against you at all Ryu, it's just draining and I'm not really up to it.
I'll drop my gambit immediately if this is the case, I don't wanna make this personal.
 

Pink Lemonade

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I don't like dooms. He isn't really looking at Axel's intent, and just trying to seem town by being against his town alliance thing. His response to RR was a bit abrasive too, I don't see why he responded like that.

Vote: Dooms
 

Pink Lemonade

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Vote: Axel

What could you have gained by making an alliance like that? Easier to wagon people? Why did you choose Dark Horse & Kantrip specifically?
Did he ever answer this? Since he replaced out, guess it's moot. Let me tell you my thoughts on Axel.

I think he made an alliance with DH and Kantrip to test their motives. Underlined, Notice how he came in, voted, and didn't propose anything to the alliance. What was your thought on that?

Vote: Axel

I propose a policy lynch on this slot.
No thanks, I scum hunt, not policy lynch. What was your read on Axel btw?

He will be as aggravating as possible, no logic rhyme or reason to his actions, he will quick lynch without warning for his personal views over what is best for town.
JD played really newb town there though. He obviously believed so hard that he lied as town. Even so, if you don't like a player or playstyle, then don't play with them. Simple as that.

If people aren't cocky as **** and actually logically think through what is best for the town information wise, then nothing can really go wrong with that.

I'm saying L-3 because the cocky people will be the ones to vote past L-3 if given the chance for their own gains instead of the town's, so it leaves us room for multiple people to act that way without a lynch going through.
Now that Zen replaced out, I think you don't need this anymore correct? If the town is un-trustworthy than l-2 is fine enough.

Implying that I understood anything that happened Pre-D1. It was just a bunch of gambit **** that is still confusing me, which is why I'm trying to ask Axel questions.

I liked Dark Horse, but I don't know 100% because apparently he's been viewed as scummy by a lot of others. Then again, I didn't like Pink Lemonade, yet others that participated in pre-game did, sooo...

Lemme re-read it real quick and I'll get you a legit opinion.
Underlined, I want you to explain why you liked Dark Horse, and why you disliked us.

If I disagree'd with Zen's alliance and questioned him on it, then why would you think that I would join yours?

Not even doing it.
You would if you had a town read on RR (maybe). Why do you respond to RR in such a manner? You could have told him "No, I'm not into alliances they're bad cuz of mojo jojo"

I mean I don't see how you can expect RR to know that you really hate alliances. Seems like you said this to seem town, rather, saying what a townie 'should' say.

Oh, has the hydra been erected?

Why yes. Yes it has. And it's beautiful.
Now now, don't get to exited now. ;)

agreed, plus he was already scummy b4

x1-12
Can you substantiate on what you are referring to?

hi Zenny, do you still have OS as null? his play is imo clearly unplanned/spontaneous - do you agree and if so do you take it to be a town tell? Also DH is town yes?

@DH: How does being salty = being scum? And how does pushing a PL on someone = show that RR doesn't want to be attacked? Try actually thinking before posting and tell me what you think about any one of Rockin/Macman/Zen



Why does the bolded matter at all? It looks like you're avoiding giving your opinion because either you're only pretending have one or you don't want to disagree with people - which is it and why is it the case??
Hey X1. Long time no see. Question. How do you feel about OS defending me without really giving a reason for his read on me? (Consider he did the same in FE and just gave crap scenarios to explain it)

I remember you saw OS most likely being scummy in FE, but I just didn't see it. Can you give me any tips on reading him?

I'll cover X1 later when I'm off of work but I'm here to remind you all we gotta policy lynch Axel before the day is over.

This will happen today.

:phone:
How is this coming up?

kantrip

why would you even WANT a delfino as your avatar? they dont...do anything
Man it's obv that he wants to be the brownie townie, cuz delfino is a chillax place for you to vaca. (And hopefully you don't have to clean up someone else's ****!)
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Like seriously, I was trying to gambit reactions but I think I legitimately made Zen feel bad about playing, like **** I feel like a total *******.
 

X1-12

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It mattered because I skimmed the pre-game 2-3 times, and I could have missed something he did or read something wrong, since the people that actually participated and got everything from it viewed Dark Horse as scummy.
So what is your DH read then? You promised to look over it but haven't? You're still avoiding giving this read... why is this??

Ran #314 said:
Hey X1. Long time no see. Question. How do you feel about OS defending me without really giving a reason for his read on me? (Consider he did the same in FE and just gave crap scenarios to explain it)

I remember you saw OS most likely being scummy in FE, but I just didn't see it. Can you give me any tips on reading him?
I don't think much about it, I always have reads that I can't give what people would consider sufficient reasoning for and thus don't post reasoning much like I have with DH al ready. Considering FE doesn't mean anything, If he did it as scum once he definitely knows that he did that and thus trying to ascertain whether he'd knowingly do it again is WIFOM.

I'm pretty confident that OS can only play scum by devising and following a strict plan (@Overswarm: Would you agree?) and I saw that immediately in FE, here he's not, like I said to Zen he's pretty clearly undirected and unplanned which gives me a town read on him. Also his willingness to follow his own agenda down tangents (i.e post #97)

@DH: what do you think about dooms?
 
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