Celebrity Mafia: The Revenge of Elin Nordegren (GAME OVER! Did Elin get her revenge?)

[Clownbot]

Please elaborate about how specifically each of us lied, and how this contributed to the lynch.

Next, take some stances on who you think deserves to die toDay.

Cello lied by claiming one-shot day cop, you lied by fake claiming informed miller, which is what brought about Cello changing his claim, which was the entire reason we were able to get enough votes on him. No? I know that's why I voted him. You were right, you staked extremely too much arrogance in this lynch, even before you lied, but you outed Cello in such an underhanded way.

Who should die toDay? Kuz:

@Clown, why do I want to lynch you yet suspect you're not scum.

**** if I know, those two sentiments are contradictory and blatantly anti-town when paired together.

unvote; vote clown

Although you say you thought the Cello lynch was inevitable you previously supported Cello's argument over mine during the majority of D1. What made you turn on this read and hammer Cello before he was able to comment on Delvro and myself? Do you acknowledge that what you did makes you look incredibly scummy? If so, why did you put the blame on yourself then immediately deflect attention onto Cello and Swiss in your 896?

I changed my mind after Cello altered his claim. Cello said there was probably a Doc in this game, he fake claimed just because he wanted to live. Not only could we have switched to a better lynch candidate if he told the truth in the first place, Doc-who-he-said-existed could have protected him for the Night. It seemed illogical to me that Cello would do such a thing for such a reason given the circumstances.

What I did makes me look scummy? You just said you suspected I wasn't scum (and that you would lynch me - wtf) and now you're voting me and saying I look extremely scummy. Didn't you get on me D1 for changing my mind about voting you within a short period of time? What is this?

I blamed myself for hammering because I probably shouldn't have hammered when I did. I realize this now. I've apologized for it already, but if you want me to again I can. Unfortunately there's little more I can do about it. I "deflected" attention to Cello and Swiss because they deserve to be blamed for the lynch. They were the biggest contributors to it, as far as I'm concerned. Do you disagree?

Vote: Kuz

 

[th3kuzinator]

@July, I completely agree with you that Roxy's 904 is just really freaking scummy. Not only does he say that rPSI thought he was town before he died, he also thinks that we should just follow through with Cello's plans without any explanation.

I would like to point this out.

So you think he was killed because scum he left no connection?

Thus, do you agree that scum like the situation they find themselves in toDay, and as such, previous suspects are not likely to flip scum?

This is a pretty good assessment of the NK choice. Roxy could just be trying to ride Cello's callout of Delvro and myself to get another mislynch off. Thats why he did not feel pressured to kill anyone with connections, he anticipated the course of actions toDay would take and planned for that.

That + his D1 play makes him really scummy.

I am fine with Clown/Roxy toDay. Maybe Delvro. Thoughts, July @ Swiss.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I "deflected" attention to Cello and Swiss because they deserve to be blamed for the lynch.

Still more than okay with clown going.

"I am the one who hammered, but its Swiss' and Cello's fault that we lynched the Cop D1."

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Clown, I trust Swiss' read more than I trust the little voice in my head saying you might be town. I came into the beginning of D2 having doubts, but now I am fairly convinced.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

@Clown, I trust Swiss' read more than I trust the little voice in my head saying you might be town. I came into the beginning of D2 having doubts, but now I am fairly convinced.

What makes you trust Swiss?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Dourin, I cannot explain it right now as it would out a PR. I will explain it very soon.

What are your thoughts on Roxy and Clownbot?

 

[Clownbot]

Oh, come on. Do you think that if I didn't hammer Cello he would have lived that Day? Do you think that whoever hammered deserves to be blamed for the lynch after what happened? I explained why I hammered, I don't see any fault with it aside from the fact that I could have stalled the lynch a bit longer. For the second or third time, I've apologized for what I did. Yes, it is partly my fault. Cello and Swiss lied. This is what led to Cello's lynch. I've explained why I believe that. Once again, do you disagree with my logic? How so?

Trusting Swiss' reads didn't get us anywhere yesterDay, I don't see what's different about it. You were on the Cello wagon too, but you had your own arguments for him as opposed to just parroting Swiss, and you owned up to being part of the wagon. If you think I'm Town but lynch me because Swiss said so, you're not even thinking for yourself.

If I'm lynched toDay and flip Town, will you be suspicious of Swiss? If not, how many mislynches led by him will it take?

 

[th3kuzinator]

"The scummiest person, regardless of alignment, will be lynched"

-KevinM

Right now that's you or Roxy.

Oh, come on. Do you think that if I didn't hammer Cello he would have lived that Day? Do you think that whoever hammered deserves to be blamed for the lynch after what happened? I explained why I hammered, I don't see any fault with it aside from the fact that I could have stalled the lynch a bit longer. For the second or third time, I've apologized for what I did. Yes, it is partly my fault. Cello and Swiss lied. This is what led to Cello's lynch. I've explained why I believe that. Once again, do you disagree with my logic? How so?

He might have, yes. No. There was a fault with it, Cello was away from the game for 30 hours and could not respond to the questions asked to him. Plus there were a few people who had not returned to their computer who could have possibly unvoted once they saw his claim switch. If you had even read the thread a little bit you would have realized Swiss lied for a reason and Cello's claim looked grody at that point. No, that does not mean you can just silence him before he has a chance to react. That in itself is not that mega-scummy but the way you have been brushing off the guilt onto Swiss and Cello lying is.

Trusting Swiss' reads didn't get us anywhere yesterDay, I don't see what's different about it. You were on the Cello wagon too, but you had your own arguments for him as opposed to just parroting Swiss, and you owned up to being part of the wagon. If you think I'm Town but lynch me because Swiss said so, you're not even thinking for yourself.

If you think I was correctly on Cello's wagon yesterDay why are you voting for me right now? Was it really because I changed my mind as the Day progressed? Or is it because I have my vote on you?

If I'm lynched toDay and flip Town, will you be suspicious of Swiss? If not, how many mislynches led by him will it take?

If you flip town? IF YOU FLIP TOWN? You should know you are flipping town from your perspective. The fact that you even give credence to the other side is a scummy in itself. No, I won't be suspicious of Swiss, because I am confident that he is town due to reasons you don't know yet. I am not voting for you because Swiss is, I have plenty of reasoning.

 

[July]

@July, out of Dourin, Roxy and Clownbot, who would you lynch toDay?

What about Delvro?

Right now I would prefer to lynch Roxy, I feel like there was more to the NK than just lack of connections, and of everyone Roxy had the most to gain from rPSI's death. Delvro and Roxy scum team is a definite option (see post 906) and the fact that Delvro has pretty much no connections, that rPSI didn't even mention him during the game, has also given me a scummy vibe.

Clownbot has been a read of mine for a while now, still scummy, still a good lynch option.

@Clownbot, what do you think of Roxy and Delvro?

Honestly, I would be okay with any of Roxy/Delvro/Clowbot toDay, but Roxy with definite priority. I do not want Dourin lynched toDay, my read on him is town.

@July, I completely agree with you that Roxy's 904 is just really freaking scummy. Not only does he say that rPSI thought he was town before he died, he also thinks that we should just follow through with Cello's plans without any explanation.

I would like to point this out.



This is a pretty good assessment of the NK choice. Roxy could just be trying to ride Cello's callout of Delvro and myself to get another mislynch off. Thats why he did not feel pressured to kill anyone with connections, he anticipated the course of actions toDay would take and planned for that.

That + his D1 play makes him really scummy.

I am fine with Clown/Roxy toDay. Maybe Delvro. Thoughts, July @ Swiss.

I agree that Swiss's assessment is good, and I trust that Swiss is town, or else he wouldn't have been so pushy about the Cello lynch; I still stand by the fact that Swiss didn't have to fake claim for Cello to get lynched, he could have just left it to you and Axel. Still suspicious of Axel btw, but want updated thoughts and scum picks from them right now.

Also, Roxy isn't the only one that could be riding Cello's call outs to get another mislynch; Dourin, Roxy, Delvro, and Clowbot all share the same sentiments of kill whoever Cello said, meaning Kuz, Delvro, and Swiss. This just supports my earlier reads on three of them, doesn't support my hunch that Dourin is town but I have other reasons to suspect he is town so I'm just focusing on the other 3 for now.

 

[Clownbot]

I've already conceded that I should have waited longer before hammering. That's your only problem with the hammer, correct?

I'm not trying to deflect the guilt in any way, shape, or form. I disapproved of Swiss and Cello's actions. I wanted to make them aware of this. The comment was not intended to foster discussion, and it was intended for them and them alone. I can understand based on my wording how it appears to be deflecting, but I didn't have much time to post before school so I went with the quickest version I could.

I didn't say "When I flip town" because I never much cared for when other people came under fire and said it. It felt forced, almost like a subtle AtE.

You have reasons that I don't know yet? When can I and the rest of town know? Should we just blindly accept what you have to say?

 

[Clownbot]

I don't think I'd mind Delvro going toDay. I'm less sure about GERTY. Nothing particularly Townie sticks out in my mind between either of them. Might have to reread.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Yes. Town is already in a questionable position. In submitting the info I know I would be outing someone important which would hurt town at this point. I don't expect you to trust me but, if you do, I guarantee you it is in town's best interests to keep my information hidden for now.

Your vote is still one me. Am I still the play? If so, why?

 

[Purple]

I'm back from work you guys.

Here's my view on this situation. First off, Cello was town; however he did a lot of lying and quite frankly, nothing was going to stop him from dying. That being said though, I wondered about a few things that Cello said earlier in the game. One, he said that Swiss was innocent as 'day-cop'. While there's no really validity in this considering there was no real claim, I feel that Cello might have went along with this regardless, and he was confident enough in Swiss to call him town.

Now Kuz on the other hand, I still think we should follow on with that kill ='/. I will look more into this however to confirm any inconsistencies.

Now, a really big 'scum-tell' is apparently me calling out rPSI. Not going to lie, when I saw he died D2 I was ecstatic to throw that out there. Remember a few things about rPSI.

1) He has a town read on me and Cello, and was one of the few people who not only had a town read on Cello, but also didn't stick on the lynch of Cello.
2) Outside of his Cello read, a -great- deal of conversation was based on his meta on me; saying that I was town.


This would be a good trap for Mafia to take, kill rPSI, wait for me to bring up the rPSI meta, use it as bait to get me killed.

*inb4imdiggingmyselfintoadeeperhole*

rPSI has played with me in multiple games, and has -always- been right about my alignment, regardless of how I play. Why would this suddenly change now?

Honestly, I have a problem with people pushing away from Cello's / rPSI's reads, considering they are the only people who are confirmed town

 

[Purple]

EBWOP:

I'm not playing mafia until Sunday/Monday. You could say it's a vacation I guess.

Just showing everyone.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm back from work you guys.

Here's my view on this situation. First off, Cello was town; however he did a lot of lying and quite frankly, nothing was going to stop him from dying. That being said though, I wondered about a few things that Cello said earlier in the game. One, he said that Swiss was innocent as 'day-cop'. While there's no really validity in this considering there was no real claim, I feel that Cello might have went along with this regardless, and he was confident enough in Swiss to call him town.

Now Kuz on the other hand, I still think we should follow on with that kill ='/. I will look more into this however to confirm any inconsistencies.

Now, a really big 'scum-tell' is apparently me calling out rPSI. Not going to lie, when I saw he died D2 I was ecstatic to throw that out there. Remember a few things about rPSI.

1) He has a town read on me and Cello, and was one of the few people who not only had a town read on Cello, but also didn't stick on the lynch of Cello.
2) Outside of his Cello read, a -great- deal of conversation was based on his meta on me; saying that I was town.


This would be a good trap for Mafia to take, kill rPSI, wait for me to bring up the rPSI meta, use it as bait to get me killed.

*inb4imdiggingmyselfintoadeeperhole*

rPSI has played with me in multiple games, and has -always- been right about my alignment, regardless of how I play. Why would this suddenly change now?

Honestly, I have a problem with people pushing away from Cello's / rPSI's reads, considering they are the only people who are confirmed town

This entire post is literally the textbook definition of WIFOM.

 

[th3kuzinator]

@July, if Roxy takes priority, why is your vote not on Roxy?

@Clown, Roxy's defense is extremely shoddy, would you agree? He was wagon hopping between me and Cello the entirety of yesterDay and constantly tried to downplay the info we had on Cello as insignificant but then ended up turning around and putting him at L-1 with confidence. Now, in response to a likely scum scenario he brings up useless data "he had a town read on me" and "rPSI has never been wrong on my alignment, why would he start now?" He also says

Now Kuz on the other hand, I still think we should follow on with that kill ='/. I will look more into this however to confirm any inconsistencies.

which further backs up the point that he felt conformable with how future lynches were looking and just wants to blindly follow Cello's reads. He does not even attach a supporting case as to why I am scum, just says we should follow Cello's lead because he was town.

@Roxy, you assume a dead townie's reads are 100% accurate before they die. Besides the obvious angle that you are trying to work this to your advantage, this is simply untrue. Just because Cello felt that Swiss may have been town does not make him town. He is, regardless, but your reasons for determining alignment are incorrect and all of your posts toDay and most of them yesterDay are scummy.

First off, Cello was town; however he did a lot of lying and quite frankly, nothing was going to stop him from dying.

No.

 

[Delvro]

Everything Roxy says makes perfect sense.

 

[July]

@July, if Roxy takes priority, why is your vote not on Roxy?

@Clown, Roxy's defense is extremely shoddy, would you agree? He was wagon hopping between me and Cello the entirety of yesterDay and constantly tried to downplay the info we had on Cello as insignificant but then ended up turning around and putting him at L-1 with confidence. Now, in response to a likely scum scenario he brings up useless data "he had a town read on me" and "rPSI has never been wrong on my alignment, why would he start now?" He also says



which further backs up the point that he felt conformable with how future lynches were looking and just wants to blindly follow Cello's reads. He does not even attach a supporting case as to why I am scum, just says we should follow Cello's lead because he was town.

@Roxy, you assume a dead townie's reads are 100% accurate before they die. Besides the obvious angle that you are trying to work this to your advantage, this is simply untrue. Just because Cello felt that Swiss may have been town does not make him town. He is, regardless, but your reasons for determining alignment are incorrect and all of your posts toDay and most of them yesterDay are scummy.

No.

My first read of Roxy's argument reveals the dilemma this situation creates, in that clearly as scum you could see the benefit of killing rPSI and could play it off as town. I need to reread, a bit tired right now, but my stance on Roxy still stands.

Unvote

I'm going to be v/la tomorrow to help run a tournament, I don't want to leave my vote on Clown or throw it on Roxy and then go absent for a day. In fact, I don't want to leave it on anyone and risk something happening tomorrow where someone gets quick voted and I don't get to change my vote. Precautionary, yes, but I never got to come back in and reevaluate my vote on Cello before he was lynched. Kuz, do not let a lynch take place before I come back okay?

 

[Swiss]

Skimmed.

Would take Clown as a lynch. Axel unless he steps his **** up. Kuz is Axel town? Glad rPSI is dead - seems like a scrub mafia kill, but from a mafia that is trying to be good, he was completely the wrong choice. That helps us.

 

[Purple]

@Roxy, you assume a dead townie's reads are 100% accurate before they die. Besides the obvious angle that you are trying to work this to your advantage, this is simply untrue. Just because Cello felt that Swiss may have been town does not make him town. He is, regardless, but your reasons for determining alignment are incorrect and all of your posts toDay and most of them yesterDay are scummy.

Oh! That makes a lot of sense!

I guess I'll just listen to you then right? Because your reads are much more accurate than confirmed town!



It is true, dead town's reads are not 100% accurate, however on the same token, they are more accurate than any of us here because we know for a fact they are with the best intention of town.

Right now, if he is telling the truth, Cello is essentially a vanilla townie, since he already used his one-shot ability. He has already given us a result and can get no more because he is one shot. Not lynching him now would be a problem. For one, we would be keeping scum alive. Secondly, we would be constantly distracted every single Day with the townCello vs scumCello WIFOM that scum will surely use time and time again because they can easily get away with it. At best, it throws two players into constant doubt throughout the entire game and heavily impedes scumhunting. At worst, Cello is scum and he successfully rides this junk that HE IS UNCCD to late game. Just a bad situation in general. Now check out the spectrum if we lynch him. At best, we lynch scum gain reads on the players afraid to join his wagon and move into a powerful D2 position for town. At worst, we lynch the one-shot cop, gain reads on the players on his wagon, and confirm Swiss as town. Have Doc protect him that Night, he survives, and we move into a D2 with a confirmed townie, many reads and WIFOM-less discussion.

All Cello has done to protect himself is yell that he is unCCd and that lynching an unCCd Cop is dumb. However he is not a full fledged cop and, if he is telling the truth, has already completed his task.

I want to bring this up really quick, this was your logic as to why he should die. When he claimed cop, you stuck on his kill; sup with that?

 

[th3kuzinator]

You're kidding right? You posted 7 times after Cello claimed full cop and you did not bother to unvote. This was your reasoning for wanting Cello dead after he changed his claim:

Guys, do you guys think that cello and swiss's constant confusion are both a hinderance to town and that they should both die?

I do.

and then you further went on to say

Look, I think you both (Cello and Swiss) should die anyways. Cello is lying, and you're causing confusion to most of town with bs.

Now Cello flips town and you go against your own picks for who you want dead. Suddenly we should just listen to Cello's dying wish instead of pursuing the people you actually found scummy. It does not help your suggestion when you don't actually explain to everyone why I am scum but just say Cello told us to.

Sup with that?

@Swiss, Maybe. He looked decent early game, but I don't like how he hopped on and then coasted through the entire Cello wagon as it built and now has not posted since the Day start.

 

[Purple]

I think that's a pretty valid reason Kuz; Liars get lynched.

 

[th3kuzinator]

1. LAL is dumb.
2. Then, if you "stuck on his kill" just as I did, why question me at the end of your 940?
3. Did you also forget that you refused to give me three scumpicks before the end of twilight yesterDay despite my 3+ questions? Why were you so hesitant to give stances yesterDay?
4. Answer

Now Cello flips town and you go against your own picks for who you want dead. Suddenly we should just listen to Cello's dying wish instead of pursuing the people you actually found scummy. It does not help your suggestion when you don't actually explain to everyone why I am scum but just say Cello told us to.

Sup with that?

And furthermore give me three scum picks with reasoning attached that does not have to do with Cello telling you to do so.

 

[Purple]

if lynch all liars is dumb, then why did you continue on your vote to Cello? Swiss essentially forced Cello to out his lie, which got a lot of people to solidify votes. Your logic for killing him was what I quoted earlier, which had nothing to do with his lying.He claimed a PR of worth after that and was uncc'd; this made his daycop a lie (which was dumb right?) but made him from your pov not a lynch choice; you never brought this up at all. This sounds inconsistent Kuz. Did I really refuse to give scumpicks? Quote that please; I'm on mobile and can't look back vote: kuz

 

[th3kuzinator]

The way you incriminate someone is underhanded and full of bull****. Nice way to quote my reasoning from before Cello switched his claim and then say "your logic for killing him was what I quoted earlier which had nothing to do with him lying." Well no **** my reasoning back then did not have to do with him lying, because he had not revealed he had even lied yet. You did this same sort of thing in the beggining of D1. I called you out for saying someone was scum yet not voting them. Then you voted him and then said "Kuz, wtf you talking about, I was on him the entire time." No, you weren't.

Still waiting for a valid case that warrants that vote instead of trying to convict me with bull**** evidence. Mind telling us why you are doing that?

And ofc keep ignoring my questions because that's really helping the situation.

2. Then, if you "stuck on his kill" just as I did, why question me at the end of your 940?

3. Did you also forget that you refused to give me three scumpicks before the end of twilight yesterDay despite my 3+ questions? Why were you so hesitant to give stances yesterDay?

Now Cello flips town and you go against your own picks for who you want dead. Suddenly we should just listen to Cello's dying wish instead of pursuing the people you actually found scummy. It does not help your suggestion when you don't actually explain to everyone why I am scum but just say Cello told us to.

Sup with that?

And furthermore give me three scum picks with reasoning attached that does not have to do with Cello telling you to do so.

I am going to keep re-quoting them until you answer.

*inb4imdiggingmyselfintoadeeperhole*

Despite the AtE, glad you at least realize whats happening here.



@Swiss, July, Dourin, Axel - Thoughts on Roxy after our previous exchange?

@Clown, have your thoughts on him changed?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Roxy, is clownbot scum?

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

Post to avoid prod lol, I can post again tomorrow!

 

[Purple]

Keep quoting it, understand I'm still on mobile and somethings I can't give a full answer to. I can't multiquote, I can't read back excessively far, etc.

 

[Clownbot]

I don't even know what I want anymore ;_;

I'm getting gradually less confident that you're scum, Kuz.

I think my scum picks go something like Nabe > Axel > Delvro > Roxy. This is pretty rough, though. Don't know where Kuz and Swiss fall, partly because of their interactions - especially this thing that Kuz is hiding.

I can't say I appreciate Roxy's defense. Too much of it relies on rPSI's claim which isn't very sufficient evidence. If you're trying to avoid getting lynched, just step up your play.

Unvote

Vote Nabe, I guess.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm getting gradually less confident that you're scum, Kuz.

Praise the lord, the man has come to his senses.

I can't say I appreciate Roxy's defense. Too much of it relies on rPSI's claim which isn't very sufficient evidence. If you're trying to avoid getting lynched, just step up your play.

Pretty much Roxy's only defense is

• Cello did not want me lynched
• rPSI thought I was town (and he has never been wrong about my alignment in past games so why would he start now?)

-_-

Unvote

Vote Nabe, I guess.

Don't you realize its this sort of thing that made me suspicious of you in the first place? Its your indecisiveness. Why even bother tacking on the "I guess" at the end?. It just proves to town that you are not confident of your reads. If you do not fully believe Nabe is scum, how to you expect the convince the rest of town to believe you? Furthermore, where did nabe come from? Briefly detail for me why you view him as scum.

Axel, where you at <_<?

 

[Clownbot]

Nabe hasn't done anything. If he can play like he did for the brief time he showed up yesterDay, but more detailed, I might consider taking my vote off of him. If we end up trying to lynch someone I disagree with lynching I assure you I'll do my best to convince you otherwise. Until then, the Day's just recently started and there's plenty of time for us to solidify a lynch candidate.

 

[Purple]

2. Then, if you "stuck on his kill" just as I did, why question me at the end of your 940?

You had a different reason than I, mine was because of his lie, yours was different.

3. Did you also forget that you refused to give me three scumpicks before the end of twilight yesterDay despite my 3+ questions? Why were you so hesitant to give stances yesterDay?

What do you mean by 'hesitant'. Do you mean 'lazy'? I could go with that instead.


N

ow Cello flips town and you go against your own picks for who you want dead. Suddenly we should just listen to Cello's dying wish instead of pursuing the people you actually found scummy. It does not help your suggestion when you don't actually explain to everyone why I am scum but just say Cello told us to.

Sup with that?

And furthermore give me three scum picks with reasoning attached that does not have to do with Cello telling you to do so.

You realize you're asking me to give you FIVE overall scumpicks right? That wouldn't even make sense. I'm curious about Nabe, he made no connections and would've been a great NK choice, however he wasn't whatsoever; this doesn't make him scummy in the least, but it makes me wonder.

I still you and Swiss should die, I don't have much else (this also halfway answers your question about Clownbot)

 

[Axel]

Not sure what happened to my other half. Need to catch up. Hopefully by tonight.

 

[th3kuzinator]

/taps foot.

 

[Purple]

This saddens me.

 

[Axel]

This side is not happy with the other sides actions when I told him specifically some things that he went against what I said.

Nothing I can do but tell him that I'm gonna be posting a lot more, need a re-read. Also this side is in control a bit more as well.

I also have another problem to deal with behind the scenes.

Might do it toMorrow morning when I wake up. Sorry for our not posting much, we need to rediscuss some things.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

@Swiss, July, Dourin, Axel - Thoughts on Roxy after our previous exchange?

Roxy's #933 was a terrible post. It was all about defending himself and giving reasons not to suspect him. But what the hell, no one was suspecting you yet? The worst that was happening was asking if you should be lynched, out of 3 people. Why did you get so defensive and then use a complete WIFOM defense about rPSI calling you town?
This post was all about looking like a good townie, but it has no base whatsoever.
Unvote
Vote: Roxy
Roxy's hot.

I don't even know what I want anymore ;_;

I'm getting gradually less confident that you're scum, Kuz.

I think my scum picks go something like Nabe > Axel > Delvro > Roxy. This is pretty rough, though. Don't know where Kuz and Swiss fall, partly because of their interactions - especially this thing that Kuz is hiding.

I can't say I appreciate Roxy's defense. Too much of it relies on rPSI's claim which isn't very sufficient evidence. If you're trying to avoid getting lynched, just step up your play.

Unvote

Vote Nabe, I guess.

Uhm, what you change your mind about Kuz, and what made you suspicious of Nabe? Are you wearing flipflops?

 

[Clownbot]

I changed my mind on Kuz because of his play. I just said why I'm voting Nabe. He's hardly done a thing. He hasn't posted for D2 even though he said he was almost caught up and I think I've seen him posting in another game he's in.

 

[Purple]

Dourin please read, there are no votes but everyone has me as a primary target; my god.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

Dourin please read, there are no votes but everyone has me as a primary target; my god.

There were 2 people who expressed some suspicion of you, not even voting you or making a case, Kuz was still more in favour of lynching Clown. To say everyone has you as a primary target is just overreacting a lot, it were only 2 people at that time.
You were defending yourself from basically nothing, very overdefensive reaction I'd say.
Also, what reactions were you looking for with:

Also rPSI had a relatively town read on me before he died; how do you guys feel about that?