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Timic83
Smash Ace
ladies and gentleman prepare for what brawl was supposed to be
Before we go any further; if you want to combo use Powerpuff girls or Monkey (or Jack probably)
They all are rushdown characters, as FAR AS WE KNOW
Playing Aku is great thouggh, still campy like brawl but it just... it feels good. coz i cant just sheild **** and **** back. If they get close to me, its hard.
Its rewarding all around 4 everyone
They all are rushdown characters, as FAR AS WE KNOW
Playing Aku is great thouggh, still campy like brawl but it just... it feels good. coz i cant just sheild **** and **** back. If they get close to me, its hard.
Its rewarding all around 4 everyone
Timic83
Smash Ace
some findings:
by moving right and pressing c stick left, the game will start your fsmash out left but then swap to right 50% of the way thru, so you can cover both ways. the same does NOT apply moving left and pressing cstick right.
captain k'nuckles fsmash is the most overpowered thing on this planet (or the cpus just suck), he can also bucket break with his statue creation move
THIS AMAZING GAME ALSO INTRODUCED ME TO FLAPJACK, AKA COURAGE 2.0
by moving right and pressing c stick left, the game will start your fsmash out left but then swap to right 50% of the way thru, so you can cover both ways. the same does NOT apply moving left and pressing cstick right.
captain k'nuckles fsmash is the most overpowered thing on this planet (or the cpus just suck), he can also bucket break with his statue creation move
THIS AMAZING GAME ALSO INTRODUCED ME TO FLAPJACK, AKA COURAGE 2.0
**** you.
Don't even make the comparison
asianaussie
Smash Hero
Timic83
Smash Ace
so much hate
flapjacks counter combos into upsmash
numbah 1 is underated
flapjacks counter combos into upsmash
numbah 1 is underated
Timic83
Smash Ace
i want to use k'nuckles, while his statues HARD counter (and i mean HARD) chars like buttercup and blossom, he has trouble against chars with projectiles.
also he has op tactic on chowder 1, stand near door and make statue, if they dont have projectile and come close they get stunned, backthrow
note: game froze when i paused during HIM's punch time explosion.
also he has op tactic on chowder 1, stand near door and make statue, if they dont have projectile and come close they get stunned, backthrow
note: game froze when i paused during HIM's punch time explosion.
Sweet, Ill get u to help me write a guide on Ternacles/K'nuckles after we play some friendlies.
Id still wanna write a johnny guide; i havent used him yet, i think i can make him High Tier.
Also I updated Grims How To Play guide
Check it out in the drop down menu in the OP.
Id still wanna write a johnny guide; i havent used him yet, i think i can make him High Tier.
Also I updated Grims How To Play guide
Check it out in the drop down menu in the OP.
cheeseball341
Smash Journeyman
Are you able to use gamecube controllers if you get the wii version?
And how good is Agent Monkey/What does he play like?
And how good is Agent Monkey/What does he play like?
Timic83
Smash Ace
yepppppp10
ViVa
Smash Ace
so does it play really similar to smash? (jabs, tilts, smashes, b specials, stuff like that)
I wanna try it.
I wanna try it.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
does it have sidesteps and airdodges?
Redact
Professional Nice Guy
the game plays exactly like smash but with supers that are not luck based
theres jab/tilts/b specials/smashes/air dodge (brawl air dodge)/rolling/shield grab/ ledge game(not really important it seems atm) and whatever else
you can configure the controls as you like, but there's no tap jump and this cant be changed.
the game uses gamecube controllers. you kill off the side by increasing %. you can throw different directions. you can charge smashes. you have a second jump (some have float like stuff) and use your up+b to recover (or side +b can be used with some)
theres jab/tilts/b specials/smashes/air dodge (brawl air dodge)/rolling/shield grab/ ledge game(not really important it seems atm) and whatever else
you can configure the controls as you like, but there's no tap jump and this cant be changed.
the game uses gamecube controllers. you kill off the side by increasing %. you can throw different directions. you can charge smashes. you have a second jump (some have float like stuff) and use your up+b to recover (or side +b can be used with some)
Redact
Professional Nice Guy
buttercup has a good projectile (the fireball)
blossom freeze breath gets rid of his statues, and stops her from being charged.
you need to think a little more before you rate characters tim lol
its worth noting that the movesets are exactly as comprehensive as smash
Except
There appears to be no Utilt; only Usmash
There is only Fair, no Bair, it simply changes which way you face when you do it depending on direction input.
Throw animations are non-existent, the character just gets knocked away in the direction you press. This is merely an aesthetic failure though.
Every other input move, it has, airdodge spotdodge sidestep sheild Uair etc.
Except
There appears to be no Utilt; only Usmash
There is only Fair, no Bair, it simply changes which way you face when you do it depending on direction input.
Throw animations are non-existent, the character just gets knocked away in the direction you press. This is merely an aesthetic failure though.
Every other input move, it has, airdodge spotdodge sidestep sheild Uair etc.
Redact
Professional Nice Guy
Blossom seems like the current king of rushdown. She has little lag on almost everything she does and has solid priority, she is able to close gaps easily and seems to behave like a semi-floaty heavy. She does not have any obvious bad matchups atm, but her hardest (yet still even) seems to be aku or buttercup.
PROS
+ Her freeze breath (neutral B) is flat out rediculous. It's next to instant, has good range, has a long lasting hitbox, freezes people in place long enough to combo them with another move after, can loop into itself (to an extent and is % dependant) and can be used as an edge guard. This move also seems to beat almost every single charge move (with the exception of Him so far).
+ I'ts really hard to camp blossom. Her charge (side b) is good at closing gaps. whilst it does not kill nor provide amazing%. It has an ok distance, is very fast, has little lag and is very easy to combo after into freeze. It also can be used to recover.
+ Her edge guard game is solid. Her thunder (down b) is a lot like pikachu's thunder but buffed. The thunder ignores the stage and will go through any platform/ceiling and is amazing at edge guarding. The move also has much less lag than pikachu's and starts up faster. This combined with freeze makes quick work of almost any recovery.
+ Her recovery is huge. Her flight (up b) lets her fly round the stage freely at a very fast rate for a lengthy period of time. The only way blossom dies is by either losing her flight or being killed outright. Have fun flying around the whole stage before landing.
CONS
- None of her A moves stand out. Her smashes and tilts seem normal, along with all of her air moves. Whilst this isn't that bad, you don't have a particular kill move to rely on apart from down+b.
- She has no projectile. Whilst she can close gaps, you're going to always be forced to approach. Playing against campy characters can easily become a game of chasey.
- She cannot kill upwards too easily. Being taken to stages with walls can make it that you wont be getting kills until 150%+
How to play:
Her charge -> freeze game is almost exactly like falco dair -> shine game. It combos so easily it's rediculous and combos into itself repeatedly at low%. You're looking at doing combos like Charge -> freeze -> freeze -> Charge -> Freeze -> Freeze -> fair at the start of each stock.
You edge guard with a combination of freeze and thunder. If they come under you do freeze, if they go high you do thunder.
Her air moves can easily be used for combos aswell, doing charge -> freeze -> sh rising fair -> falling uair -> freeze once landed is very possible aswell.
Make sure you keep pressure up on people, she literally has no projectile so you cannot give your opponent space to get out his own projectiles.
Stages
+ Counterpicks for Blossom
+ Fosters 2
The small stage and layout not only makes it hard for projectile characters to get anything going, it also makes landing her thunder as an edge guard very simple.
+Ben10 2
Again the somewhat smaller stage + the platform layout makes landing her thunder simple along with closing in on enemies.
+Final Showdown 1
Same story as ben 10, platform layout is perfect for thunder along with stage size being somewhat smaller.
- Counterpicks Against Blossom
- Dexters 2
The sattelite in the middle of the stage shafts any approach that she has, she is forces to come over the top against almost every characater and the stage has small killzones, making her recovery advantage null here as she will die quickly.
- Fosters 1
The walls make killing off the side impossible unless theyre already in a doorway, and the platform layout doesnt really help either. Youll struggle to approach anyone camping in the doorway here as its a walkoff and youll get grab -> backthrown easily if mess up your approach.
PROS
+ Her freeze breath (neutral B) is flat out rediculous. It's next to instant, has good range, has a long lasting hitbox, freezes people in place long enough to combo them with another move after, can loop into itself (to an extent and is % dependant) and can be used as an edge guard. This move also seems to beat almost every single charge move (with the exception of Him so far).
+ I'ts really hard to camp blossom. Her charge (side b) is good at closing gaps. whilst it does not kill nor provide amazing%. It has an ok distance, is very fast, has little lag and is very easy to combo after into freeze. It also can be used to recover.
+ Her edge guard game is solid. Her thunder (down b) is a lot like pikachu's thunder but buffed. The thunder ignores the stage and will go through any platform/ceiling and is amazing at edge guarding. The move also has much less lag than pikachu's and starts up faster. This combined with freeze makes quick work of almost any recovery.
+ Her recovery is huge. Her flight (up b) lets her fly round the stage freely at a very fast rate for a lengthy period of time. The only way blossom dies is by either losing her flight or being killed outright. Have fun flying around the whole stage before landing.
CONS
- None of her A moves stand out. Her smashes and tilts seem normal, along with all of her air moves. Whilst this isn't that bad, you don't have a particular kill move to rely on apart from down+b.
- She has no projectile. Whilst she can close gaps, you're going to always be forced to approach. Playing against campy characters can easily become a game of chasey.
- She cannot kill upwards too easily. Being taken to stages with walls can make it that you wont be getting kills until 150%+
How to play:
Her charge -> freeze game is almost exactly like falco dair -> shine game. It combos so easily it's rediculous and combos into itself repeatedly at low%. You're looking at doing combos like Charge -> freeze -> freeze -> Charge -> Freeze -> Freeze -> fair at the start of each stock.
You edge guard with a combination of freeze and thunder. If they come under you do freeze, if they go high you do thunder.
Her air moves can easily be used for combos aswell, doing charge -> freeze -> sh rising fair -> falling uair -> freeze once landed is very possible aswell.
Make sure you keep pressure up on people, she literally has no projectile so you cannot give your opponent space to get out his own projectiles.
Stages
+ Counterpicks for Blossom
+ Fosters 2
The small stage and layout not only makes it hard for projectile characters to get anything going, it also makes landing her thunder as an edge guard very simple.
+Ben10 2
Again the somewhat smaller stage + the platform layout makes landing her thunder simple along with closing in on enemies.
+Final Showdown 1
Same story as ben 10, platform layout is perfect for thunder along with stage size being somewhat smaller.
- Counterpicks Against Blossom
- Dexters 2
The sattelite in the middle of the stage shafts any approach that she has, she is forces to come over the top against almost every characater and the stage has small killzones, making her recovery advantage null here as she will die quickly.
- Fosters 1
The walls make killing off the side impossible unless theyre already in a doorway, and the platform layout doesnt really help either. Youll struggle to approach anyone camping in the doorway here as its a walkoff and youll get grab -> backthrown easily if mess up your approach.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
metagame in action
punch time explosion for EVO 12
punch time explosion for EVO 12
Redact
Professional Nice Guy
Timic83
Smash Ace
im pretty sure no ftilt, ftilting just jabs
Hmm well i cant really Utilt every time in Brawl either so it's believable that the times i intended to Utilt I just didnt do it right.
Either that or Akus tilts look the same.
Regardless, I accept there is Utilt
AND
Thanks for the guide Phil, I appreciate your contribution heaps.
Redact
Professional Nice Guy
the buffer is huge, but theres all tilts
jesus you guys are ********
jesus you guys are ********
asianaussie
Smash Hero
wut
how do you not tilt 100% of the time
how do you not tilt 100% of the time
pivot exists but very different and useable with fsmash, idk about grabs and stuff
Dash dancing yes
Platform dropping; you can fall through, but you have to land first, even if not doing an aerial
There is somewhat lag cancelling.
And i can do akus utilt, i was trying today and it actually does look similair to his Usmash if you dont charge Usmash so **** you phil stop being mean
Dash dancing yes
Platform dropping; you can fall through, but you have to land first, even if not doing an aerial
There is somewhat lag cancelling.
And i can do akus utilt, i was trying today and it actually does look similair to his Usmash if you dont charge Usmash so **** you phil stop being mean
Bubbles B is the best move in the game and should be spammed repeatedly until you realize how much you hate the game.
On a related note:
Flapjack has an amazing counter. I tried to grab him as he did it and he still countered. He countered the grab.
Pressing Z in the air makes you do your grab in the air. I haven't been able to achieve anything with this as of yet, and it seems that it's only used for item catching.
Aku's laser doesn't yield the super-building-analyze-cubes when it connects. This is good because Aku has a mediocre final smash and it also means your opponent can't fight back.
Captain Planet has near infinite horizontal recovery with his side-B. It doesn't mean much, but it's there.
You can cancel all smashes, although I'm not sure how I did it.
The male character of the ice-climber duo from the grim reaper show should be labelled as a piece of (everyone seems to be bleeping their curses for some reason) and the sole reason for me hating this game as he is the illegitimate offspring of a Bidoof and Trons r**e baby that she will eventually have on account of being r**ed.
On a related note:
Flapjack has an amazing counter. I tried to grab him as he did it and he still countered. He countered the grab.
Pressing Z in the air makes you do your grab in the air. I haven't been able to achieve anything with this as of yet, and it seems that it's only used for item catching.
Aku's laser doesn't yield the super-building-analyze-cubes when it connects. This is good because Aku has a mediocre final smash and it also means your opponent can't fight back.
Captain Planet has near infinite horizontal recovery with his side-B. It doesn't mean much, but it's there.
You can cancel all smashes, although I'm not sure how I did it.
The male character of the ice-climber duo from the grim reaper show should be labelled as a piece of (everyone seems to be bleeping their curses for some reason) and the sole reason for me hating this game as he is the illegitimate offspring of a Bidoof and Trons r**e baby that she will eventually have on account of being r**ed.
Oh man.
Here in Kentucky we've got a small scene started for this and have started working on our own tier list. It's nice to see there's another community for it out there. Should we just discuss things about this game in this thread, or should we make a social group or a thread in the light house? It feels odd going to the Australia boards to discuss this. Thanks Australia for being cool.
Here in Kentucky we've got a small scene started for this and have started working on our own tier list. It's nice to see there's another community for it out there. Should we just discuss things about this game in this thread, or should we make a social group or a thread in the light house? It feels odd going to the Australia boards to discuss this. Thanks Australia for being cool.
Timic83
Smash Ace
haha, good on you guys :D
...i dunno, if you have any outstanding discoveries feel free to post them for us, i think our list is pretty good atm so use that as a base for yours.
...i dunno, if you have any outstanding discoveries feel free to post them for us, i think our list is pretty good atm so use that as a base for yours.
Redact
Professional Nice Guy
New thread imo
Jei Jei
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Yep...played this at phils house on the weekend. Hours. So many hours.
This game is amazing.
This game is amazing.
luke_atyeo
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maaaan **** this game (actually playing as aku is amazing)
D.O.N is the original clone rofl
watch the intro to it, you will either ****ing love it, or ****ing hate it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLBqDx7gREw
D.O.N is the original clone rofl
watch the intro to it, you will either ****ing love it, or ****ing hate it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLBqDx7gREw
asianaussie
Smash Hero
D.O.N is hilarious
im not even sure why it's hilarious, it just is
im not even sure why it's hilarious, it just is
If someone else could make it in the Light House, that'd be fantastic. I'd hate to just copy paste your all's info, and we don't have our own stuff hammered out quite yet, though I guess I'd be good at organizing it. I got a lot of stuff I want to discuss though some other time.New thread imo
luke_atyeo
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yeah don is one of those games thats just soooo ****ing terrible and stupid, that it crosses over the line into being good.
and its funny as hell
and its funny as hell
I'm keen to contribute but you'd probably be much better at organizing the whole thing and keeping it alive. I give you permission to take any and all info from the OP of this thread as you create the new thread. There is one guide that is Redacts, not mine, but I'm pretty sure he would not mind either.
Inform me when you've made the thread. I'm currently putting together some Vilgax stuff (at a much slower rate than the other guides) and I'll get that to you when you're done as well.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=13798978
Thread is up in the Light House now. I'm about to go to a friend's house to play some actually. What are some characters I should test around with or something? We have a lot of experience playing with/against Ben10, Aku, Blossom, Bubbles, Planet and Bravo. I myself am a Knuckles player almost exclusively, but I think I've developed his metagame way too fast or something lmao.
Thread is up in the Light House now. I'm about to go to a friend's house to play some actually. What are some characters I should test around with or something? We have a lot of experience playing with/against Ben10, Aku, Blossom, Bubbles, Planet and Bravo. I myself am a Knuckles player almost exclusively, but I think I've developed his metagame way too fast or something lmao.