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[Overswarm]

I see.

Me too. With both eyes.



http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3464608


If you're going to make an inactivity claim, you generally don't want to have posted every day in multiple threads for the past several days.

 

[Lythium]

Link doesn't work.

And I wasn't making an inactivity claim. I was making a johning about work claim. Generally, I make pretty long posts in Mafia games. I can sneak on the computers at work. I can read for a bit or make short posts. It's not worth my job to make a post that will take so long that I get caught doing it. Conversely, it's not worth my time to start typing up a long post at work in case I have to close the browser. My point is, it's easy to keep up with short posts in various threads.

And I'm sorry that this is the first day that I've had off in over a week, and generally, I work forty or more hours a week. I like playing Mafia, but I will be the first to admit that I don't always have time for it. If you guys think that I can't keep up, then say so, and I will request that I be replaced. But please, don't get your knickers in a twist because I have stuff to do beyond playing Mafia. I have work, I have a boyfriend, I have friends, I have biweeklies/tournaments to run, and ranbats to attend. I live on my own, and no one is going to do my laundry or cleaning or whatever. I do not have enough time in the day, but I do like playing Mafia, and I will be as active as I can.

And I'm sorry if I come off sounding kind of pissed, but get over it or replace me. That's how it is. I will post as much as I can, but I can't guarantee that I'll be able to post all the time. And if that's the best you have to say about what I posted, then gosh, what else is there to say?

Anyway... moving on.

Overswarm, I still don't see how your attitude helps town. If you're town, then shouldn't you be looking out for town's best interests, and not yourself? How is withholding your suspicions helping the rest of us?

 

[Overswarm]

Just click on your name and find more posts by you. They're all time stamped.

Overswarm, I still don't see how your attitude helps town. If you're town, then shouldn't you be looking out for town's best interests, and not yourself? How is withholding your suspicions helping the rest of us?

Why should I help others? I'm not sure who is town or who isn't yet. I'm still more useful than most here, even with the little I've posted. I'll keep to myself, and you can deal with it.

 

[Mayling]

last posted:

nday - 5/25
dzle-falz - 5/26
vrael - 5/25
dark_ermac -
overswarm - 5/26
clownbot - 5/25
Lythium - 5/26
exn - 5/25
greenstreet - 5/26
super smash bros. fan - 5/25
the_guide - 5/25
vanderzant - 5/24

vote count
SSBF (1) - Lythium
Nday (1) - Vrael
Dark_Ermac (1) - Vanderzant
Exn (1) - SSBF
Greenstreet (1) - The Guide
lythium (2) - overswarm, dzle-falz

not voting (5): dark_ermac, Greenstreet, Nday, Clownbot, exn

Please be sure to take note and inform me of any mistakes made.

dead is last second of May 30th EST!
with 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

 

[The_Guide]

I believe that I have my vote on Ermac now, unless I forgot to unvote Street.

 

[The_Guide]

Unvote

Vote: Dark Ermac

Just to be sure.

 

[Xivii]

Exn: In reponse to this post (http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10351001&postcount=211), I don't really see how I'm parroting. If you hadn't noticed, Vrael and I both made our posts at the exact same time (6:34AST). I fail to see your point.

I was talking about when you voted, not when you placed FoS. #186. Which was actually just a couple of posts after Vrael a few hours later. It came off as parroting to me.

On another note, in regards to the same post, it really looks like you're trying really hard to take the heat off of yourself.

Uh yeah, obviously. I only wanted to get reactions and get more activity going. I didn't want to induce more cons than pros. Putting too much focus on myself would only hurt town.

Why is it necessary for us to know who you think is town?

Hm. I guess if you look for scum you should also look for non-scum. At least that's the way I've been playing. So far it seems to work.

 

[Greenstreet]

We are getting closer to the weekend now, and I'm still fine with getting rid of dark_ermac.

Vote: dark_ermac

 

[Lythium]

@Mod: my vote was on Exn.

 

[vanderzant]

vanderzant:

I would just like to point out that this is terribly contradictory. You say that you're okay with bandwagoning Ermac or Exn, but then you say that town needs to be less concerned "with putting people at L-3," which, let's face it, is pretty much bandwagoning on D1, am I right? So, how much bandwagoning is too much? Or is a bandwagon not a legit form of pressure?

Uhhh...

I said "I'm ok with bandwagoning Ermac/Exn"

Then I said "town needs to be less concerned with putting people at L-3," which as you point out is pretty much saying I'm ok with "bandwagoning"

Where is the contradiction?

 

[vanderzant]

@Vrael: You said earlier that you may consider a No Lynch as an option. What are you thinking with regards to lynching right now? Is a no lynch still a viable option in your opinion?

 

[ndayday]

For those with their vote or Dark Ermac, why do you think he's an ok lynch candidate for today?

Personally, he's looking really weird. The way I see it, he does something like this:
-"Ok guys, RVS is over, let's start" >
-long drought of posts >
-"I might have to go with a gut feeling" >
-writes up posts that end up with no real conclusion as to who is scum, just "idk" or "not safe to lynch D1"

I think he's the most logical candidate for a lynch today. He gives the illusion of helping while not really doing much of anything, just cute fluffy write-ups etc. I was also thinking Vrael, but it's just a gut feeling, and he's not a real worry to me opposed to Ermac.

vote: Dark Ermac

 

[Mayling]

Sorry for the mistakes. Thank you.

vote count
Nday (1) - Vrael
Dark_Ermac (4) - Vanderzant, The_guide, greenstreet, Nday
Exn (2) - SSBF, Lythium
lythium (2) - overswarm, dzle-falz

not voting (3): dark_ermac, Clownbot, exn

Please be sure to take note and inform me of any mistakes made.

dead is last second of May 30th EST!
with 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

 

[Deleted member]

Dark Ermac's analysis on Nday was decent, but his analysis on DZLE-Falz contained a lot of fluffs. They sound like it's scum hunting, but it really isn't. Try condensing posts to only the parts that actually contain substance.

Today as I was reading through your posts, I found some beliefs that you had that I think are illogical (better word). This was after coming across: #102, #116, & #185

You're right about #102 and #185, but I honestly can't see why #116 was ridiculous. In that post, I finally made a serious vote and explained why I found that particular person was suspicious at the time.
@Overswarm (#260): You do realize that it is not constant? The site will play more Mafia games, which means that the percentage of that will go up, therefore, will make that eventually false. We can't really determind the average amount of wins we will get based off that, it's just not possible, of if it is, too much of a hassle to work on.

 

[The_Guide]

Yo, Ermac. So far, you've been posting your analysis on players that seem suspicious to you, but not worthy of a lynch. That's great and all, better than no activity; however, I'd like to your case on who you think is today's play. Your top suspect, please.

 

[Greenstreet]

Dark Ermac's analysis on Nday was decent

I disagree.

It looks like this guy is in a similar boat as I am. Neither of us were able to do much this weekend, and the topic practically sprang up from nothing. Overall, this guy seems like a prime lynching target* if the game is close to deadline.

The best I could gather from his post is that he comments on how Nday and he were both away for the weekend, and therefore Nday is a prime lynching target. lolwut?

He then goes on to say, despite being a prime lynching target, that he's not ready to lynch him.

Either way, I don't like the content of his posts, and he's fairly inactive as it is. Hence my vote.

 

[DZLE]

Unvote

Thanks for posting, Lythium

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

@Mod: My vote isn't on anyone

I'm still waiting for the rest of Ermac's analyses. I'm fine with lynching him.

 

[Dark_Ermac]

Sorry, guys. Work johns.

Ermac: Those are some lovely PBPs, but I don't see how they're really helping out town a whole lot. So, who do you think is the most scummy at the moment?

I realize that. I should've done them in private, as the game began, and only posted the analysis on those that I saw as scummy. I've been gone for the past day, so I haven't had time to make any more PBPs. From where I stand right now, it seems that PBPs will do nothing for me unless I choose the ones I currently see as the most scummy.

I will do an analysis on Van & Exn next.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Lythium has requested replacement.

 

[The_Guide]

At this rate, we'll never be able to get a read on rPsi/Lyth/?.



...

Ermac, who is your top susspect at the moment? Is it someone you've posted already, or Vand/Exn?

If its the latter, then feel free to respond to this once you get your Post analysis on that player up.

 

[Dark_Ermac]

For those with their vote or Dark Ermac, why do you think he's an ok lynch candidate for today?

Personally, he's looking really weird. The way I see it, he does something like this:
-"Ok guys, RVS is over, let's start" >
-long drought of posts >
-"I might have to go with a gut feeling" >
-writes up posts that end up with no real conclusion as to who is scum, just "idk" or "not safe to lynch D1"

I think he's the most logical candidate for a lynch today. He gives the illusion of helping while not really doing much of anything, just cute fluffy write-ups etc. I was also thinking Vrael, but it's just a gut feeling, and he's not a real worry to me opposed to Ermac.

vote: Dark Ermac

-"RVS is over..."

I generally dislike RVS, and the fact that it just blends into the actual discussion, so I posted that to provide a (mostly) clean boundary in case I need to get something from the game's start without drowning in a sea of random non-serious posts. I believe I was effective, since the RVS seemed a lot shorter than other games I've witnessed.

-"Long drought of posts"

So now you say that one weekend is a long drought? Don't forget- you were also inactive at this time! If the game started one week later than it did, I would've been a lot more active, and thus a more helpful player.

-"I might go with a gut feeling"

Might =/= 100% chance. I decided to not vote based off of gut unless I'm too short on time to be able to target someone. May 30th deadline gives me plenty of time to work with.

-"writes up posts that end up with no real conclusion as to who is scum, just "idk" or "not safe to lynch D1"

There's a reason for this. This D1 was very shallow in content, so I began to...

 

[Dark_Ermac]

Sorry, thunderstorm.

... gather information on all players, in numerical order, to see what I could make of the game at this point. Since then, I have changed the order a bit, since the first two players were a bit inactive, thus yielding near-worthless posts. This next one will feature van/exn, and be posted tomorrow afternoon sometime.

 

[The_Guide]

Don't do an analysis on someone if you think they're town. If scum see that a lot of people think someone is townie, then they'll nk him.

Just post your scum picks; don't bother doing it on everyone.

 

[Dark_Ermac]

If worst comes to worst, and we can't decide on a player to vote out, there's only a 32% chance of the player replacing in being a townie, as seen in my analysis on (I think) Nday. There's a 3/4 chance of lynching town anyway, so yeah.

I will only vote this way if I am unable to complete the analysis in time for the deadline.

 

[Dark_Ermac]

@guide: Noted.

 

[The_Guide]

While you're on, care to answer Lythium's/my question? Who do you think is the scummiest atm?

I won't even hold you to an analysis (I'll expect that later). Just a name will do, for now.

 

[vanderzant]

For those with their vote or Dark Ermac, why do you think he's an ok lynch candidate for today?

I put my vote on him quite early on the Day (just out of RVS). Since then he has given me no reason to take it off. He hasn't even responded to the post where I voted him.

 

[ndayday]

Maybe little arrows wasn't the best way to show that all those things were connected. I'm not trying to take separate little jabs with this.

I generally dislike RVS, and the fact that it just blends into the actual discussion, so I posted that to provide a (mostly) clean boundary in case I need to get something from the game's start without drowning in a sea of random non-serious posts. I believe I was effective, since the RVS seemed a lot shorter than other games I've witnessed.

The fact that you said RVS was over is hardly the reason, although I suppose it could be seen in a way as weird. I think what you're saying is true, but like I said up above, I'm not trying to say "zomg he said RVS was over" It's the fact that you said something to the effect of "RVS is over, let's start."

-"Long drought of posts"
So now you say that one weekend is a long drought? Don't forget- you were also inactive at this time! If the game started one week later than it did, I would've been a lot more active, and thus a more helpful player.

See where it's kind of weird imo? You seem really enthused and ready to contribute, but then are not only gone all weekend (which yeah, I was too, and I can sympathize for this reason), but then come back and keep saying that you'll post tomorrow. Among this, you say-

"I might go with a gut feeling"

Might =/= 100% chance. I decided to not vote based off of gut unless I'm too short on time to be able to target someone. May 30th deadline gives me plenty of time to work with.

And I can understand this I suppose. It's not really a big deal as long as you don't end up doing this today.

-"writes up posts that end up with no real conclusion as to who is scum, just "idk" or "not safe to lynch D1"

There's a reason for this. This D1 was very shallow in content, so I began to gather information on all players, in numerical order, to see what I could make of the game at this point. Since then, I have changed the order a bit, since the first two players were a bit inactive, thus yielding near-worthless posts. This next one will feature van/exn, and be posted tomorrow afternoon sometime.

But can you see where this is a fault on your part? If you're town, you should've posted on your suspicions. The way you've done it, it's you going "I'll post tomorrow" for a few days (maybe 2, I dunno), and then posting stuff that isn't going to help town much at all, and can be seen as you trying to seem active while not really helping much at all.

I hope van/exn are your suspicions. :o

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

@Vrael: You said earlier that you may consider a No Lynch as an option. What are you thinking with regards to lynching right now? Is a no lynch still a viable option in your opinion?

Oh sorry, didn't see this yesterday.

I mean I don't think that a no lynch is the best option, because then there's a 0% chance that we kill a scum. If we have a solid lynch candidate, then we should lynch that person. That's imperative. But I'd rather no lynch than be hasty and vote for someone with not-so-solid evidence backing the lynch.

So to answer your last question, I'm not sure yet. I'll need to see how the day goes and what happens. If someone's at L-3 or something with 4 hours left in the day, I'd rather no lynch than lynch that person just to lynch someone, if that makes sense.

 

[Greenstreet]

@Vrael - keeping in mind the following:

There is a 0% win rate after a nolynch on day 1.(admittedly little data in that set)

Having said that, I'm not entirely certain where this data comes from or whether it is reliable, it's just something OS posted. For all I know he has an alternate version stating how good a nolynch depending on what he wants people to think.

 

[Overswarm]

@Overswarm (#260): You do realize that it is not constant? The site will play more Mafia games, which means that the percentage of that will go up, therefore, will make that eventually false. We can't really determind the average amount of wins we will get based off that, it's just not possible, of if it is, too much of a hassle to work on.

*narrows eyes*

You have a very poor grasp on statistical analysis.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

It's not like it's 0 out of one hundred, it's 0 out of 3. Like I said, it's not my first choice. I just don't want to be hasty and vote a townie if there is not sufficient evidence.

 

[Overswarm]

unvote vote vrael

If you had to lynch someone yourself right now, who would it be Vrael?

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Ermac. He was inactive for a really long period of time and then comes back and really doesn't contribute much at all. He posts some analyses, but these weren't on his suspicions, so I don't understand this at all. He hasn't really done much at all.

@mod: do you know who's replacing Lyth?

If the replacement for Lythium doesn't contribute, I'm fine with lynching that person too. rPSI and Lythium didn't do very much.



On a semi-related note, people need to post more. OS's post was like 9 hours ago. It makes it hard to single out non-contributors if barely anyone is contributing.

Clownbot where you at?

 

[Deleted member]

*narrows eyes*

You have a very poor grasp on statistical analysis.

These are just based off older games that have ended, but we can't really trust it. As a matter of fact, unless we're in at least a semi-open set-up (Like this one), it is extrememly difficult to even predict how much of a chance of town lynching a scum/townie/indy.

Like others, I'll be fine with a Dark Ermac lynch and I agree with the reasoning. Lynthium/rPSI is my secondary option unless the replace improves on them. Due to Exn's actions a few days ago, I'm still slightly scummy of him and to me, it generally takes awhile for a person to get off my radar.

 

[Deleted member]

*suspicious*
Grammar fail by me.

 

[vanderzant]

Ugh... all this lurking. Ermac's at L-3 now. I'm fine with his lynch, though I'm interested to see if and why he thinks I'm his top suspect for scum, so let's let him post that first.

@Clownbot: Yeah you haven't posted much recently. Are you lurking intentionally?

I can't even think of anything else to say really.

 

[Greenstreet]

I'm fine with a Lythium vote as second choice, pending the usefulness of the replacement.

 

[Clownbot]

Not intentionally lurking. This is kind of an off game for me, I'm not sure what to say atm. At any rate I'll try to contribute more before toDay is over/toMorrow.