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[vanderzant]

Also OS. Now that I've done that for you, I want to see your hand. Who's scum?

 

[Clownbot]

Vand, is he actually scummy? Your case on him seems pretty random and overall you don't look very confident. If you think DZLE is scummier I also don't understand your vote change.

 

[vanderzant]

@Clown: I think I said in that post that DZLE is the only person I'm fairly confident in flipping scum. I did this as more of a response to what OS said.

I changed votes because I'd like to get a response from guide. Also, a lot of town seems to "vote-hop" at the drop of a hat (so I'm interested to see what happens there).

You're right but, I definitely DO think DZLE is much scummier, but I figured he's getting replaced so I'll drop it for now.

 

[Clownbot]

So are you just going to leave whoever replaces him alone if they play better than he did? :|

 

[vanderzant]

Well, I can't really question the replacement based on DZLE's actions. I'm still happy with lynching the replacement regardless of how he plays, based on how DZLE played. If that makes sense >.<

Questions for people:

@Nday: At the end of the Day 1, you still had your vote on Ermac. Considering he pushed the Exn lynch harder than anyone, what are your thoughts on him?

@Greenstreet: What do you find interesting about the night actions? Be as specific as needed

@Clown: Who do you think is scummy based on toDay and yesterDay.

@Dancer/SSBF: Other than DZLE, who do you think is scum?

@Ermac: What happened to that analysis you were going to put on me?

 

[Greenstreet]

Only 1 death occurred out of a potential 3.

 

[Overswarm]

And OS, why do you think you can just tell people what to do?

Because I'm ****ing Overswarm, deal with it. I'll tell people what to do all game long and they'll do it because it helps town. If it doesn't, call out the action as being anti-town and explain why. Other than that, hush.

@OS: You're too slow.

Was out with the lady.

Calls DZLE out for obvious parroting.

#152: Votes Greenstreet and promises a case later on. Not a fan of these sorts of plays.

#170: Posts the promised case on Greenstreet. Interprets a joke the wrong way and, calls him out on unvoting SSBF.

#236: Unvotes Greenstreet. This tells me that his case was a bit of a push to get things going, which I don't mind. Jumps on ermac.

Next few posts, keeps pressuring Ermac a bit…

#343: Jumps Greenstreet for putting someone at L-1. Odd that he had a problem with this.

Annnddd that's Day 1. He was V/LA for the Exn/Ermac thing (#362), but he never gave an opinion on that.

Overall, he could be scum depending on how some other players flip. He did follow the Town status quo on Day 1 to an extent, but I didn't mind his push on Green (even if it was kind of bogus). I'm interested to see what he does today.

I'd say he's avoided Nday, Clown, OS and myself. Might be scum avoiding his team mates, or that he just generally hasn't stuff to say about these players. None of the above players have really been discussed that much though. I don't think anyone apart from ermac has actually analysed any of those names tbh.

This is the worst scum case I've ever seen. You have nothing better than this for any other player? And you switch from DZLE to vote for this guy... why? Is this some vote of confidence to make it look like a more likely attempt?

so OS. Now that I've done that for you, I want to see your hand. Who's scum?

You, if that's the best scum case you've got. Mafia isn't won by making a case on one person while ignoring everyone else. You picked a target and went after it with horseblinders on and have no idea what anyone else in the game is.

Don't quicklynch anyone, let's get some more information.

 

[Overswarm]

Sworddancer, where you at? Haven't heard from you in a bit.

 

[Clownbot]

Vand, aside from DZLE I'm not a fan of OS's play or (as of late) yours.

 

[Overswarm]

Vand, aside from DZLE I'm not a fan of OS's play or (as of late) yours.

Sup

What don't you like

 

[Clownbot]

I have my suspicions, and am posting nothing. You can deal with it.

Like you said, I'm one of the more experienced players in this game and I'm either mafia or not. If I am town and I start posting suspicions and I'm on a roll, mafia won't let me live past N1. I'll give my input when it's prudent to do so.

If you have actual specific questions, I'll happily answer them.

It isn't, except for that it is beneficial to me and I'm town. So in a sideways way it is, but I don't care about it benefiting other town members at the moment. I'll post suspicions when I'm ready, thank you.

Because I'm ****ing Overswarm, deal with it. I'll tell people what to do all game long and they'll do it because it helps town. If it doesn't, call out the action as being anti-town and explain why. Other than that, hush.

[...]

Don't quicklynch anyone, let's get some more information.

I quoted the last part because I remembered looking over your posts that yesterDay you said you'd want to start a wagon on Guide because he didn't want a quicklynch to happen although you've been saying the same (in this post and if memory serves in others).

Aside from that a lot of your posts just seem sort of murky to me. You're "Deal with it" style of play, if not scummy, is at least a bit irritating.

 

[Overswarm]

Aside from that a lot of your posts just seem sort of murky to me. You're "Deal with it" style of play, if not scummy, is at least a bit irritating.

Irritating? Me? My playstyle? Say it ain't so.

Really though, most of the playstyles I choose are irritating on purpose. Gets people posting and simultaneously makes me less of a night kill target on N1/N2, and it's a lot of fun.

I quoted the last part because I remembered looking over your posts that yesterDay you said you'd want to start a wagon on Guide because he didn't want a quicklynch to happen although you've been saying the same (in this post and if memory serves in others).

Eh? I yelled at someone for not quick lynching? Where?

 

[Clownbot]

In his 343 he switched his vote to Greenstreet for L-1ing, saying that he didn't want the Day to end early. Then you said if he had more experience you'd want to switch the wagon to him immediately.

 

[Overswarm]

.............and?

 

[Clownbot]

I.e. you were suspicious of him for not wanting a quicklynch when you have the same attitude.

._.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Bleh. DZLE replacing out sucks. Oh well, can't do anything about that pesky thing called life I suppose.

unvote

Alright, I see that earlier Vreal asked me who my top three scum suspects are, and vanderzant has asked me who else I find scummy besides DZLE, so here is my top 3 (not necessarily in order) candidates of who I find scummy:

DZLE-Already stated my reasons for finding this guy to be scummy. I don't like his push for against inactives, it's too easy, and it's a push that the inactives can't really defend themselves against (because, well, their inactive. . .). I also don't like how he completely ignored Vanderzant's case against him and instead just pointed to others.

Greenstreet-I don't know what it is about this guy specifically, just something about him bugs me. Perhaps it is because all of his post are just one liners with bare minimal amount of information. I mean I know that that can just be a type of playstyle but still, he plays to make himself very covered. Also, I noticed a lot of his one liners are simple, little things, like reminders of who voted for who and what not. This type of behavior, while nice, doesn't really help town. I want to look back at him later and maybe do a PBA.

I'm still looking out to see who else I find to be scummy.

 

[Overswarm]

I.e. you were suspicious of him for not wanting a quicklynch when you have the same attitude.

._.

I think you're simplifying things.

 

[Clownbot]

?

Do tell.

 

[The_Guide]

Just want to let you guys know that I'll be V/La until Saturday. My senior graduation is tomorrow, and after that, I'm gonna be at a night long smashfest.

Also, meh at Vanderzant's case on me. It only says basic things about what I've done, without saying what is inherently scummy about me. It even compliments me in a few cases. I appreciate that you're trying to move town along, Vander, but you need to try harder.

That's as much of a response as you're going to get from me on your case. Any more, and I'm wasting scum hunting time.

 

[Overswarm]

That's as much of a response as you're going to get from me on your case. Any more, and I'm wasting scum hunting time.

You've got plenty of wasted posts in this thread. What's a few more? You'll reply if he asks you to.

?

Do tell.

Sure thing, but you have to do something for me if I do.

Deal?

 

[Clownbot]

I'm sincerely interested on what you have to say but I really don't want to blindly accept a request.

Do I get a hint? :3

 

[Overswarm]

Yes. I've done this before with another player in another game.

 

[Clownbot]

Well that's a craptastic hint. *just skimmed all your posts in DBZ*

I'm just not going to agree to it. There's not really any reason for you not to expound on what you're saying, and you can just ask me to do whatever it is you want me to do.

It's not really that fair of a trade for me to discover information that may not even convince me otherwise in exchange for a favor when I don't even know what it is.

 

[Overswarm]

It is interesting that you'd say no, knowing I can't force you.

 

[Clownbot]

Are you gonna push for me to get lynched if I don't do what you say?

 

[Overswarm]

I dunno. Depends on a variety of factors.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@Guide: Kind of a crummy response. I would wish you to actually try to defend yourself, rather then just brush it off, even if it is a bad case.

vote guide For nearly the same reason I voted DZLE.

+1 for overswarm. I think I can see where he is going with this.

 

[Clownbot]

Whatever, OS, I'll bite. What do you want me to do?

Don't forget to respond to my initial request.

 

[Overswarm]

Whatever, OS, I'll bite. What do you want me to do?

Don't forget to respond to my initial request.

Pick a player for me.

 

[Clownbot]

You .

 

[Deleted member]

I'll tell people what to do all game long and they'll do it because it helps town.

Yeah, um, you flipped scum in DBZ Mafia and you garner a lot of suspicion there (Which means they don't like your play). Had you've received more suspicoius Day 1, you would have been lynched right then and there.

Will need to look over Overswarm's post later.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Hey SSBF, I've got something to tell you

 

[Overswarm]

You .

That doesn't help at all. I pick... Sworddancer for you.


Your mission, which you've already accepted, is to search through Sworddancer's posts and make a general statement about how you feel about him as a player AFTER you've written out notes of what catches your eye. Things you're interested in, people he avoids, people he's in conflict with, who he has voted for, etc., etc.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10404503&postcount=1024

^There's an example.

I don't expect you to go THAT in depth (I am amazing, after all), but give it a valiant effort.



You're just asking for the difference between my statement towards the Guide and my actions, correct?

 

[Clownbot]

Pretty much yeah. "Actions" referring specifically to how you feel about quicklynching.

 

[Clownbot]

Could my post on Dancer just be in the form of a PBP?

 

[Clownbot]

And do you want me to include who he replaced?

(I gotta recap and see if I have anything else to say before I hit post ._.)

 

[Overswarm]

Yeah, um, you flipped scum in DBZ Mafia and you garner a lot of suspicion there (Which means they don't like your play). Had you've received more suspicoius Day 1, you would have been lynched right then and there.

Will need to look over Overswarm's post later.

If you're gonna meta me, you need to read some other games. I was mafia in TMNT mafia and had no suspicion whatsoever and just rode on everyone else's tail coats until mid-game where I let other players ride on mine. In DBZ mafia a moderator outed my alignment and I took a kamikaze approach to try to get people mislynched in later days and make them "restart" the game down two town players because I couldn't possibly survive with town players knowing I was mafia.

Me being scum or town in one game doesn't change whether I'm scum or town here. L2Meta.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

hmm. . . Funny how clownbot decides to give in once a single third party comes in to play and shows support for OS. *shrugs*

Clown I think at this point you get to pick someone for OS to do a PBP on.

 

[Clownbot]

Like how you just assume what you said influenced my decision.

 

[Overswarm]

And do you want me to include who he replaced?

(I gotta recap and see if I have anything else to say before I hit post ._.)

I'd prefer it. It's difficult to do though, so your call.

Could my post on Dancer just be in the form of a PBP?

No, follow my example with the Gheb post from another game. It doesn't have to be so in depth, but a straight up PBP lacks coherent thought. I need conclusions and notes as well as specific knowledge of who he has voted for and the like.