TheLastCacely
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ZR
tell me why it doesnt make sense in this manner?
tell me why it doesnt make sense in this manner?
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Carolina Brawl Power Rankings [1/27] Breaking Bad PRs!! YAY!
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V1CE
Smash Champion
goodnight I have productive things to do tomorrow.
DtJ SmithZzz
Happy Birthday Kjell
Lmao you guys are ****ing pathetic for fighting over placings
brb going to out to the bar with sakurai to drink your gog damn tears.
brb going to out to the bar with sakurai to drink your gog damn tears.
oh do tell....
V1CE
Smash Champion
Fawkin your mom, J1zzing on all your doornobs, then takin a **** on your Nintendo wii...
Then i have school
-dip
ewwwwwww ur so vulgar steve
Cory.
Smash Journeyman
who the **** is fighting over placings.. jesus christ why did i come to this site.. no one has any idea what theyre ****ing talking about or why theyre even talking.. just a bunch of bored ****ing teenagers.. this is my final farewell and my final *** off.. im blocking all of you on facebook and never looking back to this time i wasted..
bye idiots,
love cory
bye idiots,
love cory
TheLastCacely
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stop keith
just stop it
this isn't math class
gd keith stop trying to troll me
geeze
WeELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP
that didnt sound like an explanation.
guess ill take my leave
cause i win
keith....sometimes....ur just so ****ing stupidWeELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP
that didnt sound like an explanation.
guess ill take my leave
cause i win
but that's half the reason I like you
Dublio
Smash Ace
Next order of business: Hyping up the money match between Kack and Zellers?
Hurrah. I can only imagine what will happen. Who shall win? Who shall prevail? No one knows until it happens. Muwahwhahwhwah.
Hurrah. I can only imagine what will happen. Who shall win? Who shall prevail? No one knows until it happens. Muwahwhahwhwah.
DtJ SmithZzz
Happy Birthday Kjell
ponyo ponyo ponyo fishie in the sea
TheLastCacely
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so much for farewell, this *** cory still lurkin. lol
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point proven....sometimes, he's just so ****ing stupid
but that is what makes him so much fun.
Dublio
Smash Ace
Would you say that Ice Climbers are still viable even if they didn't use the chaingrab? After all, it's not their only weapon is it? Sure, most people go "oh crap" when they see an ice climber player, but what about for friendlies? Do you continue to play the same way in friendlies that you do in tournaments or are you willing to experiment?
What if experimenting with something in friendlies could help you win a tournament some day? There will be many times where Nana will be seperated from Popo. Are you able to pull off a win despite being handicapped? Are you able to save your Nana even when she is put into danger? How do you handle an opponent that doesn't play conventionally? What do you do in a new situation like that?
Playing to win is great but I personally love playing to learn. It can help expand your horizons and help you in those obscure situations where something could have helped you win. Sure, it may not be effective but you never would have known unless you tried it. Plus you may even become known for having an unconventional playstyle. What do you guys think?
What if experimenting with something in friendlies could help you win a tournament some day? There will be many times where Nana will be seperated from Popo. Are you able to pull off a win despite being handicapped? Are you able to save your Nana even when she is put into danger? How do you handle an opponent that doesn't play conventionally? What do you do in a new situation like that?
Playing to win is great but I personally love playing to learn. It can help expand your horizons and help you in those obscure situations where something could have helped you win. Sure, it may not be effective but you never would have known unless you tried it. Plus you may even become known for having an unconventional playstyle. What do you guys think?
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
Goodbye Cory, You will be missed.
So long friend.
So long friend.
in short,
no.
yes experimentation is a plus
but IC are one of thos characters that are not viable without their grab game.
They may have weapons but they compliment the grab game, not supplement it.
A good IC works on ways to bait the opponent to get the grab or frame trap them to get it, or mindgame the hell out of their opponent to get the grab.
Considering a really good IC can 0 to death you with one grab, I don't see why they wouldn't utilize that.
3 grabs a game can potentially give you a W.....yeah, I'd work on getting those grabs.
But that's just my opinion. I dunno, maybe simply desynching your icies can lead to an even stronger metagame. But I've never seen an ice climber main not utilize the grab game.
and people change a little how they play in friendlies. they maintain the basics. but they may experiment with follow-ups/change-ups, approaches, etc.
but they're not gonna suddenly stop going for chain grabs or stop camping.
*******
but seriously Cory, I'm gonna miss you. You always made my day when we played together.
I'm gonna miss those sheik dacus races and that diddy kong stuff
Hope to at least see you at Snap's if he ever hosts a smashfest or something.
DtJ SmithZzz
Happy Birthday Kjell
Ponyo Ponyo Ponyo
mb?
Smash Journeyman
damn i missed all of that **** guess im not going to have rides to turnys any more **** my life i get to go to like to more turnys i dont know about any after that its watever i'll just go party every day of my life like i was when i was gon for 6 months
guess im not going to have rides to turnys any more **** my life i get to go to like to more turnys i dont know about any after that its watever i'll just go party every day of my life like i was when i was gon for 6 months
DtJ SmithZzz
Happy Birthday Kjell
Welp Craig lurking.
Dublio
Smash Ace
When you have a matchup that is heavily one sided, because of certain moves that make that matchup ridiculous, wouldn't that end up making you predictable? Take Ganondorf's matchup versus Ice climbers. When ice climbers use the moves that make the matchup one sided, then the Ganondorf knows exactly what to watch out for and will develop countermeasures to avoid said move.
Same goes for any CG characters. If you play as Falco, and your opponent knows you want to grab him, wouldn't that make you really predictable? Assuming you were incapable of baiting and learning not to force the grab of course. Since your opponent knows what you want to know, he will probably just end up baiting you or making it really hard otherwise to do something else. Which means you would have to confuse him by doing something he doesn't expect, force him into the grab with a trap, or otherwise out predict him.
Brawl is all about limiting your opponent's options right? So if you know if something is coming, and you know how to counter it, you can turn your opponent's predictibleness into a disadvantage. Or maybe, if you're unsure how to do that, you can learn how to simply by playing more? Reading matchup threads and watching videos is great but if you don't practice, you won't have the ability to counter what your opponent is throwing out.
I guess it all comes down to player skill. If your opponent is able to outpredict and outmaneuver you, even if you have a heavily advantaged matchup, you can still lose. So you better get better and learn how to predict and counter your opponent's predictions or you'll keep losing. Is that right?
Same goes for any CG characters. If you play as Falco, and your opponent knows you want to grab him, wouldn't that make you really predictable? Assuming you were incapable of baiting and learning not to force the grab of course. Since your opponent knows what you want to know, he will probably just end up baiting you or making it really hard otherwise to do something else. Which means you would have to confuse him by doing something he doesn't expect, force him into the grab with a trap, or otherwise out predict him.
Brawl is all about limiting your opponent's options right? So if you know if something is coming, and you know how to counter it, you can turn your opponent's predictibleness into a disadvantage. Or maybe, if you're unsure how to do that, you can learn how to simply by playing more? Reading matchup threads and watching videos is great but if you don't practice, you won't have the ability to counter what your opponent is throwing out.
I guess it all comes down to player skill. If your opponent is able to outpredict and outmaneuver you, even if you have a heavily advantaged matchup, you can still lose. So you better get better and learn how to predict and counter your opponent's predictions or you'll keep losing. Is that right?
Dublio what you say makes sense.
However, characters like Ice climbers and falco can force an approach. It is up the the camping character to decided how to get that grab (or keep the opponent away).
In the case of ganon, all his moves have horrible ending lag. Just wait for him to do one of his moves. React appropriately, and get ur grab or whatever.
But ur right, when the opponent knows you're going for the grab, that changes how they'll play. But forcing an approach will help signficantly in getting ur grab.
However, characters like Ice climbers and falco can force an approach. It is up the the camping character to decided how to get that grab (or keep the opponent away).
In the case of ganon, all his moves have horrible ending lag. Just wait for him to do one of his moves. React appropriately, and get ur grab or whatever.
But ur right, when the opponent knows you're going for the grab, that changes how they'll play. But forcing an approach will help signficantly in getting ur grab.
mb?
Smash Journeyman
cory are u drunk right now?
mb?
Smash Journeyman
i called him at like 10 and prety sure he was drinking with friend lol
oh lol
the whole time I thought steve was drinking. cause honestly, I didn't think he had the balls to say anything he said without being in a condition where his judgement would be impaired.
not gonna lie though, I was sipping on the rest of my grey goose the entire time that was going on
mb?
Smash Journeyman
lol good **** i think to read all of that **** u have to be drinkingoh lol
the whole time I thought steve was drinking. cause honestly, I didn't think he had the balls to say anything he said without being in a condition where his judgement would be impaired.
not gonna lie though, I was sipping on the rest of my grey goose the entire time that was going on
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
Cory was cool with me......
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
lol Craig if a mm happens at VC9 listen to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTP6Z6ixjiA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTP6Z6ixjiA
Stockfield
Smash Champion
Man the last few pages were just dumb.
Zelda, I consider you a friend, but your post on the last few pages were kind of unnecessary.
I also think of Steve as a really good friend. And he didn't really need to be attacked over a dumb match.
Zelda, I consider you a friend, but your post on the last few pages were kind of unnecessary.
I also think of Steve as a really good friend. And he didn't really need to be attacked over a dumb match.
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
This^
No need for us to act like Melee players (not all Melee players are douchebags. if this offended you then my bad).
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LMAO
You know when thats actually read outloud...I feel lame as **** after that....you should also.
also you look better than cory?...ehh...thats debatable...I don't like gages but at the same time you look like a 12 year old...decisions!!!
Thats actually not bad...lol I mean I moved out when I was 20 though so whatever.
Died...lmao kitchen table.
I'd pay to watch a fight between you two.
LMAO!
or you could just take a picture of them........easy alternative....
**** Joust MM? both of us walk forward...whoevers **** touches the other person's leg first wins.
or we could just sword fight...Its whatever to me
Can you just refrain from posting...like the brawl community as a whole is way more immature then the melee community...
I dont have a problem with either but It easy to tell the difference with f**ktards like you posting stupid s**t like this
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
Notice how I said not all Melee players are douches? I edited because someone who had delicate feelings might have responded negatively to it.
V1CE
Smash Champion
I am takin the time out right now to go out of my way and apologize for any insults I have made over the last few pages. Fighting on the boards is gay and stupid, if you have a problem with see me IRL and situations can be dealt with accordingly. ZR you really should stop posting such opinions about me. Considering right now im trying to be nice. I am not a mean person, nor condescending. The last few pages is a poor show of character for all of us involved.
I really want this to end cause i really would like no quarells or awkwardness. Im sorry that your quitting smash cory. Honestly I am... I did consider you a friend way before and you know we had some good convos... I also dont know why ZR has to be so persistant on insulting me when his opinion doesnt matter to me or pretty much anyone. I want this to be dead...
@TKBRo comeone man i look atleast 17 lmao. I do not like to fight... that is why i quit MMA, NAGA in my prime when i was like 19. So ya I look forward to seeing whoever I see at duke or this weekend.
I really want this to end cause i really would like no quarells or awkwardness. Im sorry that your quitting smash cory. Honestly I am... I did consider you a friend way before and you know we had some good convos... I also dont know why ZR has to be so persistant on insulting me when his opinion doesnt matter to me or pretty much anyone. I want this to be dead...
@TKBRo comeone man i look atleast 17 lmao. I do not like to fight... that is why i quit MMA, NAGA in my prime when i was like 19. So ya I look forward to seeing whoever I see at duke or this weekend.
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LOL yea that was a huge exaggerationg but I definitely a huge exaggeration...lmao
I'll give you 16 though...but I definitely didn't think you were older than me (I'm 21)
@313. you should have just edited out...all you do is take jabs at melee when the only reason you do it is because your scrub *** doesn't have any techskill thus making you super garbz at melee and like every normal human if you aren't good at it, it sucks.
sad thing is I'm not even a true melee player but I definitely know a good (possibly better) game when I see it.
I'll give you 16 though...but I definitely didn't think you were older than me (I'm 21)
@313. you should have just edited out...all you do is take jabs at melee when the only reason you do it is because your scrub *** doesn't have any techskill thus making you super garbz at melee and like every normal human if you aren't good at it, it sucks.
sad thing is I'm not even a true melee player but I definitely know a good (possibly better) game when I see it.
Stockfield
Smash Champion
I mean it's all opinions though.
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
I mean I used to play melee (was somewhat decent), but I lost interest when Brawl came out.
Why do people assume that if you don't like it then you're not good at it?
AKA the "You Suck" Clause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhonae2k9tM
<3 Neo
Why do people assume that if you don't like it then you're not good at it?
AKA the "You Suck" Clause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhonae2k9tM
<3 Neo
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Because its true...its not even assuming...look. at the way you act about it.
even when I liked brawl more than melee I never was like "people who play melee are f**king ********...that game is clearly inferior"
and you said it wrong. I said you aren't good at it therfore you don't like it. your sentence wording messes up the clarity of that sentence
there a bunch of things I don't like and I'm not good at it but it didn't take someone kicking my *** to realize I didn't like it..I just didn't like it from the get-go.
Like basketball...I don't like playing basketball therefore making me not good at it. but I didn't go on the courts and get smacked by good players before i realized I didn't like it. I just find the game to be boring. but do i bash other people for being good at it and then challenge all of them to MM in soccer (something I'm good at)?...NOPE.
you on the other hand played melee...prolly did bad/got scared of the learning curve, saw how easy mode brawl can be and then was like "well f**k melee"
even when I liked brawl more than melee I never was like "people who play melee are f**king ********...that game is clearly inferior"
and you said it wrong. I said you aren't good at it therfore you don't like it. your sentence wording messes up the clarity of that sentence
there a bunch of things I don't like and I'm not good at it but it didn't take someone kicking my *** to realize I didn't like it..I just didn't like it from the get-go.
Like basketball...I don't like playing basketball therefore making me not good at it. but I didn't go on the courts and get smacked by good players before i realized I didn't like it. I just find the game to be boring. but do i bash other people for being good at it and then challenge all of them to MM in soccer (something I'm good at)?...NOPE.
you on the other hand played melee...prolly did bad/got scared of the learning curve, saw how easy mode brawl can be and then was like "well f**k melee"
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
just for the record i never challenged any melee player at brawl at g6. they challenged me because they thought i was free (which goes back to my argument about reputation blah blah blah..............)
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