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People should know that's the point about Ryu, he's meant to be challenging for those who don't play Street Fighter(or those who just suck at it but still love playing it).
You disturb me, but your opinion. Can I ask why you don't like him though?
You're not alone. Personally, I hate the fact that Ryu is in Smash. I don't think that any 3rd Party should have more than one rep, and I feel that Ryu's Street Fighter inputs are Smash Bros. cancer.
I'm here too! He's fun and all but he shouldn't be in Smash. For a second Capcom rep (even though I don't think Capcom should have 2) I much would've preferred Amaterasu or Viewtiful Joe.
Out of all the 3rd parties not in Smash(excluding dlc), Ryu is the most popular and has great history with Nintendo(that and Capcom originally wanted Ryu instead MegaMan).
This pic again?
What's that Wolf at the very left?
I think that might be a Star Fox fangame or something that includes many characters, one with more "realistic" proportioned characters.
It only seems appropriate because we are waiting for that one character just like Fox is thinking one winner and that is Wolf
Look up 'Star Fox Event Horizon' -It's a fan game. I've never played it, though
I'm just gonna keep my hopes low, if we get more characters, great! If we don't, it'll be disappointing, but expectedSo what do you guys think about the 30th or 3rd? You think we'll get wolf or any other character? I personally have no clue what will happen. A part of me thinks Sakurai will give us someone to hold us over till the ballot characters are made, but this kinda feels like the last updste where we just got stages and mii costumes
Love Wolf, he's one of my favorite Nintendo villains
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Ryu makes a lot more sense, and deserves it more than Amaterasu and V Joe as a 2nd Capcom character for Smash. Even designing his move set for smash speaks for itself. I didn't expect him to be in Smash 4 or Sakurai considering another 3rd party character from Capcom but I like the result.
As someone who mains both ICies and Rosalina, the differences to me are night and day, but I can see where some confusion may come from. Just as long as no character is considered a replacement of another, we're cool.Not really understanding your point about the Ice Climbers--I think we can all agree that in terms of Veterans, Wolf is the most notable (
Edit: Because I'm bored, I wanted to clarify the differences between Icies and Rosaluma. Luma, while technically a character, is strongly tethered to Rosalina in terms of what he can do (you attack, he attacks). They can come together to hit harder or Luma can be shot to annoy the opponent elsewere or allow Rosa to ambush the opponent. In the Icies, the duo excel in hitting hard but at the cost of having Nana as a liability. You lose Nana, and the game just got a whole lot harder. It's almost like an extreme version of Ganondorf and Captain Falcon--one uses a character that can respawn easier and be used as another base of attack but hits smaller and the other is a duo who sacrifices convenience for power.
tl;dr
Luma is a projectile who can be launched and whose attacks are connecting to the A button
Nana is a CPU who mimics Popo when they're together--tries to get back do him and attacks on her own when they're seperate
The biggest downer for me when looking at Ryu was how he was revealed to the public; by being leaked. The ultimate hype killer. My only gripe with his moveset is that he goes against what made Smash different from other fighting games by not having all these complex inputs for attacks. In that regard, he just seems odd. He's a fun character to play as in Smash nonetheless, but it'll still take me more time to get used to him being in.
It is still somewhat unfortunate that they had to use Wolf as a weird cross promotion tool rather than just adding him on the disc. It had to happen to some character though.
TheBeardedPunisher
the gentleman who posted what I was responding to made it sound like RosaLuma and the Icies were clones with the only difference that Luman can respawn and Nana can't. It screamed "RosaLuma is a replacement" to me XD
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I'm confused as to what you mean. Wolf was cut because of low-priority but I believe he was on the list to be included
Wolf's inclusion to coincide with Star Fox Zero is a cross promotion. Purposely putting a popular and expected character (Mewtwo) lower on the priority list to sell them as DLC. I understand why the practice exists; however, I am not extremely fond of it.
I don't believe that's why he was cut from the game. If they really want to piss us off, they would have cut Fox, Falco, and Wolf in order to save them for "The Star Fox" DLC bundle--I do not believe for one second that in a game that has Mario, Mega-Man, Pac-Man, and Sonic the Hedgehog all in the base game, Sakurai would cut Wolf to purposely sell him for a cross promotion. If anything, Star Fox Zero is bringing him back rather than keeping him from the base game. I aint no Sakurai-purest, but I feel he's better than what you're accusing him of.
Only trust Sakurai. The king of hype.
I am not accusing him of anything other than reasonable business practices that I am not fond of. If Wolf was intended to be DLC, we are getting him much later to coincide with Star Fox Zero. That just sort of bothers me. I am not claiming that Sakurai is some sort of sadist or that he is trying to piss off anyone. Not sure where you are getting that.
I think I may have misinterpreted you--I misread what you said as saying "Wolf was cut from the base game for use later" when you're actually saying "Wolf is post-poned as DLC for later"
That is fine, it is not the most popular opinion as is. I probably should have just kept it to myself.
I know Ryu makes the most sense and is the most deserving. I just think personally Amaterasu and Viewtiful Joe fit in a lot better with the Nintendo crowd.
I would definitely be hyped if one of them made it into Smash. I loved playing both of their games.
No problem. I always double check my spellings before I send them.
Hard to say what will happen. I'm hoping for a new character, but I wouldn't be surprised if all we get is more mii costumes and stages.So what do you guys think about the 30th or 3rd? You think we'll get wolf or any other character? I personally have no clue what will happen. A part of me thinks Sakurai will give us someone to hold us over till the ballot characters are made, but this kinda feels like the last update where we just got stages and mii costumes
