Bust a Move/Puzzle Bobble Mafia..... GAME OVER!

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

It's not difficult to believe , i just don't quite buy into it yet.

One thing swinging me back and forth is your discussion with JD about tako. It makes me more open to the idea you were actually just posting your thoughts and not in fact coming into the thread at the exact right moment to be able to be seen as a person suspicious of tako.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

You waited 22 hours to vote me for the reason that you claim. Can you explain why you waited so long? How is it not extremely opportunistic that you did it immediately after BarDulL voted me?

Unvote
Vote: Rake

Not liking this at all.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Could some of the people lurking please weigh in on this? BSP, 194, I see you there. Care to post your thoughts?

 

[BSP]

Does anyone think it's odd that Tako is calling for a CC in a closed setup? His claim alone should've been enough. He might be trying to out something.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Also the day before that i was locked into tako like a homing missile. And i still am locked onto tako because his explanation doesn't line up with what he has been posting. Especially his post about reading about the chatter-box role, If he had really read anything about it he would have known it was a town role.

Meaning he made his jump on me for ulterior motives.

There's little room for explanation on how he read about the role, without running into the fact that it has always been a town-sided role when it has appeared in serious games.

That leaves precious few options:

1) he never read anything and made a newb jump on me for no reason(not supported by his posts)
2) he read about the chatterbox role(remember, he asked me if i had one) and tried to paint the fact that i may plausibly have one in a bad light , and based his entire push off that. And now he has been forced to hold onto believing i have one so people will write him off
3) he managed to read about the role in a way where he would never find out it was town, which is highly implausible because he would have to have read an OS game to find it, and when he saw the role pm and ability for chatter box, he would see that it was a town role. (Least likely option)

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

@BSP: eh, it's not that much of a thing because i wouldn't think scum would have such a hard on to find something as arguably un-useful compared to other town roles like a masonry is.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

now the fact that he seems to have been expecting a CC is arguably odd, but it's not as much a priority as finding out what tako was really on about when he made his jump on me and his subsequent defense of said jump.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Day One:

Kantrip(1): BSP
sneakytako(1): JDietz43
PrivateJoker(3): Kantrip, Rake. BarBelL
Rake(1): PrivateJoker

Not Voting(6): Red Ruy, ToasterBrains, 194, Riddle, SneakyTako, Vinyl

Deadline is set to: September 21st, 11:59PM MST

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Vote : Tako

 

[BSP]

As far as this chatterbox thing goes, I'm agreeing with Jdietz and Rake right now. I'm going to go look at the role again, but iirc (and I think someone already posted this) there's literally 2 places you can learn about the role.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Joker i have to know: Who do you think i am scum with ?
Is it Bardull and that's why i sheeped him ?

Is it tako and i'm throwing him under the bus ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

There are only 2 serious games in which chatter-box has played a role:

OS Super-hero mafia and OS All-stars mafia.
Both times the role was town aligned.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

The only other time it made an appearance was Zen's joke Deadpool mafia, where everyone was deadpool. And if i remember that game correctly in the end the only scum with the chatterbox restriction was John.

@mod: remind me , did you have a restiction in zen's deadpool mafia game ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Found it:

Originally posted by Zen:

Setup

Town:

So there were 4 versions of the "Vanilla" Deadpool aka "eternal chatterbox"

(2) Town 1: Contains Chatterbox ability and Top 5 posting restriction.
(1) Town 2: Contains Chatterbox ability with No Top 5 posting restriction.
(1) Town 3: Contains No Chatterbox ability with Top 5 posting restriction.
(3) Town 4: Contains No Chatterbox ability and No Top 5 posting restriction.

All Deadpools have the "Eternal" Passive. Two PRs were among town:

(1) Thread Cop (1-shot): Contains Chatterbox and Top 2 posting restriction.
(1) Day Vig (1-shot): Contains No Chatterbox with Top 5 posting restriction.

Mafia:

(1) Bulletproof: Contains Chatterbox ability and Top 5 posting restriction (Town 1).
(1) Goon 1: Contains Chatterbox ability and Top 5 posting restriction (Town 1).
(1) Goon 2: Contains No Chatterbox and No Top 5 restriction (Town 4).

And that settles that

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I don't know who your scummate is. BarDulL could be a possibility I guess, but there's literally nothing else to support that. You can sheep somebody without being teammates. I don't think you've made any significant connections to other players. Scum can certainly be smart enough to do that.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

@mod: nevermind my question. Just keep doing what you do

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Follow up question: Rake, who's your scummate?

 

[BSP]

And here's what Bardull linked to.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12761128&postcount=2704

So if these are the only two places you can find out about chatterbox, and they both mention the possibility of being a town role, I don't see how Tako could've thought chatterbox surely scum aligned this game.

While we're talking about partners, if Tako flips scum, who would his partner be?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

actually let me see something:

@mod: can you confirm the non-existence of the chatter-box role in this game ?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

actually let me see something:

@mod: can you confirm the non-existence of the chatter-box role in this game ?

Why do we care? It seems like you're the one trying to distract the town. I post something about you that looks really suspicious, and now you wanna talk about chatterbox?

doubleVote: Rake

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

nah i'm actually super focused on lynching tako.
i'm not so worried about your suspicions because they don't suggest i was scummy moreso than lazy / busy with tako as i have already explained.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

@BSP, what do you think about the possibility of ScumRake based on my #402 and my #420?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

also i'm not actually talking about it, i'm hoping that john is not going to post the obligatory :
I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of any roles beyond what it states in the OP.
But it's worth a shot to show you what me/bardull/JD have been saying , that it is in fact not in this game.

 

[194]

actually let me see something:

@mod: can you confirm the non-existence of the chatter-box role in this game ?

As I stated previously, I don't think the mod will confirm something that didn't start confirming at the very beginning. Therefore, I think you will get nothing from this question, especially considering that the mod took time to confirm the non existance of about 6-7 roles in the setup.

@Joker: I haven't fully bought your claim, but the fact that Rake felt like changing the topic back to Tako doesn't help.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I would think if you had spotted something you found suspicious, you would at least point it out. Especially since you're always posting.

You're trying to dismiss this pretty quickly. I've shown that you did 2 things, count 'em TWO, that you yourself have called scummy on me and Tako. Why should we write it off so quickly when you do it?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'm sure the fact that JDietz isn't here pushing me anymore has nothing to do with the fact that he's no longer interested in pushing me.

/sarcasm

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Eh. I gave my reasoning on why i did em. whether you buy em or not is up to you.

Also, i haven't changed the topic, i answered a question by JD by stating why i moved my vote where i did. Now i'm back to handling what has been my main focus this entire time, being tako.

 

[BarDulL]

Ok, I'm here.

Chatterbox isn't in this game. I'll paypal $10 to whoever actually is a chatterbox in this game if there is one, but there isn't a chatterbox. It's extremely unlikely. It's an unconventional role that isn't used anywhere else in mafia history outside of OS games. Seriously.

Secondly, Tako reads as extremely noob/dumb/uninformed. I'm comfortable with him claiming the main character and being masons if his mason partner can confirm masonry later on.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

PJB was more of a tangential path based off some connections i believe exist between the two

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

bardull that glazes over the fact he claimed to have read about the role and decided it was scummy. Do i need to bring up the post again for reference ?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

bardull that glazes over the fact he claimed to have read about the role and decided it was scummy. Do i need to bring up the post again for reference ?

and yet instead of asking Tako about it and waiting for him to answer, you decided to ask the mod if the role existed in the game even though you yourself stated that you were 100% certain it wasn't in the game. Blatantly trying to distract people from my push against you.

Rake, you distracted everyone from my push on you
Y/N?

 

[BSP]

Joker, I don't think the sheeping is really a scum tell, and I think him asking the mod about chatterbox is trying to settle the matter once and for all, not to distract town.

So I wouldn't go with scumRake off of that alone

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

nah if i was distracting people i prolly woulda called your push on me a delayed OMGUS of my scum read on you, then proceeded to call this a chainsaw on me

 

[BarDulL]

I have to read into Tako's thought process a bit more, but it's just so dumb as either alignment that it makes me cringe. I get the whole "it doesn't make sense for TownTako to push on Rake's slot based on the logic Tako presented," eh. EH. Part of me still thinks he was just being a gigantic ****** however.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I've heard that term used before

What's a chainsaw?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

the role is 100% not in this game, but tako is clinging to the fact that it might be like his life depends on it, even in his recent posts he hasn't dropped it. Sn apparently me+JD/bardull saying it isn't in the game isn't enough to convince people

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I want Tako's other neighbor buddy to put himself if he doesn't we lynch him for lying.

Any objections?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ment out not put.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

eh quick summary of chainsaw would be like if i were scum , you call my partner scum, then i proceed to call you scum for it and dig into your slot to defend my partner IIRC

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Yea but who cares? Honestly, how is it going to affect how we go about this game if Chatterbox is a role? Just let people think it might exist. Who gives a ****?