Brawlitics- More than you might think.

[Dubyah8r]

HEY! YOU GUYS WANNA GET BACK ON TOPIC?
Seriously this is about the link between Brawl and Politics and Obama, not whether or not he is a terrorist, which he is not so shut up about it!!! Jesus some people are dumb...


Yesterday on CNN there was a clip of Presidential Candidate Sen. Barack Obama relaxing and taking a break form the campaign trail. Mr. Obama mentioned in the past that he enjoyed video games and this video confirmed that h has good taste. Thats right, Barack had on his tour bus a copy of Super Smash Brothers Brawl. If this man did not already have my support he just earned it. If you're not completely sold because of this let me suggest this. A brawl-off between Hillary and Obama for the Democratic nomination... just imagine the epicness. You might just want to discuss that...


Edit: I didn't see the video on CNN.com, I saw it live on CNN so I can't tell you the name... sorry guys, but trust me, it was EPIC!



This also brings another topic to the forefront though. More and more the youth of America are becoming involved in the political system and with them comes their trends and ideas, including games such as Super Smash Brothers. I began to think about the crossovers between politics and brawl and you would be surprised what I came up with. Therefore if the people in this thread so please I will be discussing on a regular basis, either in this thread or in one created in a more appropriate forum the growing crossovers between Brawl and the world at large, creating a new wave of information, Brawlitics.

Here's a sample of themes to be discussed:

Recently, tensions between China and Western Countries has been greatly escalating, presenting a problem, many of the games that we know and love are printed and produced in China, a country that some Right Wingers are suggesting that western countries place an embargo on. If something of that kind does happen what is the possibility that Japan either follows us into the endeavor or stands by China making buying a video games, an affair of bootlegging. Thoughts?

Now that particular one was about video games in general but most are much more Brawl oriented such as anti-west sentiment in Mother games and stages as well as how certain brawl vidoe game characters have been helping children in war-tirn countries...

I'm sure that this idea will soon fail into oblivion as even I am not a huge fan, but I thought that I would put it out there just to hear your thoughts.

Thanks for reading - H8r

 

[pirkid]

What is this I don't even?

 

[zeldamaster2006]

That is an AMAZING idea. Imagine a world-watched Brawl game between the two candidates.. that would be EPIC.

 

[pirkid]

First part: Agreed. A match like that would be insane. World-wide. America's future over a game by Nintendo. :D

Second part: What was that about little kids?

 

[Chaosblade77]

Hilary doesn't seem much like a gamer. Obama wins that match for sure.

Someone find that on youtube. You can find anything on youtube...

 

[Mic_128]

Hilary doesn't seem much like a gamer.

Concidering she's supported some of Jack thompson's ramblings, I'd say she's not too.

 

[Xarias]

Who would they main?

 

[Coselm]

I would really love to see that clip of Obama playing Brawl.

 

[saints_n_sox]

Funny for discussion, but seriously, don't vote for somebody because they play Brawl. Vote for them because they're the best for the future of the country, regardless of who you think that is.

 

[Masque]

I love this topic!

1) Wow...Obama + SSBB = amazingness. Knowing this makes me even more excited that I voted for him on Tuesday. :bigthumbu I support a good majority of his policies, though, which is the real reason that I voted for him; likewise, I think that everyone should choose to support a candidate for that exact reason--because you agree with his or her policies.
I really want to end up playing against him sometime. This brings up an interesting possibility: everytime you play Brawl's With Anyone mode, there is a chance that you could be playing against OBAMA! How awesome is that?!

2) Interesting thoughts on Japan's relations with China. Currently, the two are on fairly good terms. I would truly hate to see the U.S. place an embargo on Chinese goods simply because they perceive China to be a "threat." If anything, we should be taking a more diplomatic approach to the situation--offering assistance, trying to give an "encouraging pat on the back" without imperializing it. We need not create a huge presence; we simply need to help them along.

3) Itoi-san has said that the MOTHER games are set in what would be America. The question at hand: is the MOTHER series' portrayal of the U.S. a form of social criticism or an homage to its many quirks, drawing a contrast between U.S. and Japanese society? I would say that they tend to portray the U.S. in a favorable light, although I do think that MOTHER 3 offers some social criticism of the mindlessness that some people display, blindly following and accepting what will make them happy. If you are familiar, one could draw a comparison between Brave New World's soma and MOTHER 3's Happy Boxes. It's the principle that if people are satiated or contented, they will continue to live in blithe ignorance of the problems surrounding them. (It could also stand that Itoi-san is criticizing the pervasive influence that television can have for the worse.)

4) I love your username.

 

[MetaKevin]

Anyone got a vid of this CNN report?

 

[QueTee]

4) I love your username.

i love the name of his city.

 

[DraginHikari]

Obama prespective on Video Games tends to be different in general. From what I understand he's not really interested in the whole issue over them in general considering merely the overplay of video games being a 'waste of time' as I heard someone state once. But then again I'll take that over someone who blames Video Games for the ills of society.

 

[MookieRah]

considering merely the overplay of video games being a 'waste of time' as I heard someone state once.

And he would be exactly right. Video game violence and or sexual themes in games is clearly a non-issue. Games with intense violence or sexual stuff have a big huge M on the game, AND there is a little something called "freedom of speech." Now, when you start thinking about REAL ISSUES, such as how to deal with Iraq, what to do about health care, what to do about social security, what to do stimulate the economy, and overall how to improve the condition of the freaking country so people aren't as liable to get screwed over... you have to question why video game crap is even getting screen time on CNN.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Also, Hillary has stated that WDing was a glitch in Melee.

 

[The Executive]

If you're swayed to vote for a Socialist with ties to both Syrian and Colombian terrorist groups (or anyone, for that matter) just because he flashes a game case at you, you are a fool. This is the race for the Presidency of the most powerful nation in the world, not American Idol where people just vote on a whim.

That said, watching my two least favorite candidates kill each other while the lesser least candidate picks up the win would be oddly amusing.

Also, wasn't he the one saying people need to get their kids to 'put down the video games'? What a fake.

 

[QueTee]

Also, Hillary has stated that WDing was a glitch in Melee.

lol

Spoiler

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[MookieRah]

Socialist with ties to both Syrian and Colombian terrorist groups

Oh come the **** on now. Where did you hear that from? Did you hear that on AFR or at your church?

Seriously, the whole "Obama is a terrorist" thing is BS propaganda.

Also, what is wrong with having socialist ideals? Do you not understand that "true democracy" is a form of socialism to a degree? What's wrong with trying to see that everyone is looked after? This is somewhat an impossibility, but the fact is, if more people within the government were truly looking out for the people things wouldn't be nearly as convoluted and corrupted by lobbiest and special interests groups.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

Also, Hillary has stated that WDing was a glitch in Melee.

Wow, that is the best quote on the whole boards.

 

[kook321]

If you're swayed to vote for a Socialist with ties to both Syrian and Colombian terrorist groups (or anyone, for that matter) just because he flashes a game case at you, you are a fool. This is the race for the Presidency of the most powerful nation in the world, not American Idol where people just vote on a whim.

That said, watching my two least favorite candidates kill each other while the lesser least candidate picks up the win would be oddly amusing.

Also, wasn't he the one saying people need to get their kids to 'put down the video games'? What a fake.

Wow, what ignorance. Obama a socialist, you could have at least said he was a muslim, at least some people believe that. And obviously the game changing his vote was a joke.

Well i have a question as to where you saw that video of Obama with brawl because it hasnt came out yet, unless he gots a japanese version.

 

[OrlanduEX]

If you're swayed to vote for a Socialist with ties to both Syrian and Colombian terrorist groups (or anyone, for that matter) just because he flashes a game case at you, you are a fool. This is the race for the Presidency of the most powerful nation in the world, not American Idol where people just vote on a whim.

That said, watching my two least favorite candidates kill each other while the lesser least candidate picks up the win would be oddly amusing.

Also, wasn't he the one saying people need to get their kids to 'put down the video games'? What a fake.

You sound just like that dumb@$$ Bill Cunningham. What facts do you have to support the idea that Obama is associated with terrorists? Did you get that in an e-mail? Did you hear it from Rush Linbaugh?
How about actually checking his facts before making such extreme (and ludicrous) implications?

Oh come the **** on now. Where did you hear that from? Did you hear that on AFR or at your church?

Seriously, the whole "Obama is a terrorist" thing is BS propaganda.

Also, what is wrong with having socialism ideals? Do you not understand that "true democracy" is a form of socialism to a degree? What's wrong with trying to see that everyone is looked after? This is somewhat an impossibility, but the fact is, if more people within the government were truly looking out for the people things wouldn't be nearly as convoluted and corrupted by lobbiest and special interests groups.

MOOKIE IS A COMMUNIST! BRING BACK THE HOUSE UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE! WHERE'S JOSEPH McCARTHY WHEN YOU NEED HIM?!

Just playing. I fully agree with your post .

 

[The Executive]

My issue is not so much the plausible ties to terrorist groups as it is the fact that this man has spoon-fed millions of people this doctrine of 'change' without giving a single detail about what kind of 'change' he will bring and disclosing no policies he hopes to implement besides those already endorsed, in part or in full, by the other two candidates. His empty rhetoric composed of words not his own has fooled a large portion of the populace into possibly nominating and backing a political candidate they know nothing about. This man has received the political endorsement of Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the NOI (Nation of Islam, a radical religious group advocating black supremacy and anti-Semitism). An endorsement like this would be jumped on by every news outlet in the nation if it weren't for three things: a) Barack Hussein Obama is not a conservative, thus he gets a pass; b) Barack Hussein Obama is a minority, so he gets a pass, and c) Barack Hussein Obama is the MSM's pick for the presidency, so he gets as many passes as he wants. Not rejecting a public endorsement from such a hateful racist as Louis Farrakhan would be a death blow to anyone else, but Barack Hussein Obama is the media darling so we'll just gloss over any nasty bits we don't want the public to know.

FYI, my ideas don't come from AFR, I don't listen to political radio broadcasts. I see enough of that type of thing on cable. My church also has no influence besides providing a Christian Conservative base (and my own is fairly liberal in context). These people were suckered in by Mike Huckabee into promoting his narrow-minded worldviews. They drank the Kool-Aid, and Huckabee's sham of a candidacy succeeded in doing the only thing Mike Huckabee set out to accomplish--eliminating Mitt Romney from the run for President. After watching that, I resolved not to blindly support a candidate based on values he claimed to 'follow', like so many people in Alabama who utter 'I'll never vote for a Mormon! They're a cult!'. I wonder if these people have ever objectively watched a televangelist sermon...

At any rate, MookieRah, if you wish to respond please just PM me. I doubt people want a politics spat ensuing on this thread when they're trying not to explode waiting for the greatest game of the decade.

You sound just like that dumb@$$ Bill Cunningham. What facts do you have to support the idea that Obama is associated with terrorists? Did you get that in an e-mail? Did you hear it from Rush Linbaugh?
How about actually checking his facts before making such extreme (and ludicrous) implications?

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58071 (Colombian narco-rebel ties)
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25282 (Syrian terrorist ties)

Drink the Kool-Aid...fine with me.

 

[The Executive]

EDIT: double post. Apologies.

 

[Jael Irish]

HOW did he get Brawl....?

Aside from the sarcastic question, I really, really sincerely hope you do not vote for Obama because he plays brawl. If you like him otherwise thats cool and great, even though this is not the correct forum for political debate its neat he does play brawl. (I just said neat....)

 

[The Executive]

HOW did he get Brawl....?

Aside from the sarcastic question, I really, really sincerely hope you do not vote for Obama because he plays brawl. If you like him otherwise thats cool and great, even though this is not the correct forum for political debate its neat he does play brawl. (I just said neat....)

I'll hold my opinion on 'cool and great', but it's certainly better than the first option.

*applause*

 

[-Linko-]

Obama also says you must play with all items, on wacky stages, without ATs: the way the game was meant to be played.

 

[The Executive]

Can I turn off hammers?

 

[Masque]

Also, Hillary has stated that WDing was a glitch in Melee.

¡Tú ganaste!

Oh come the **** on now. Where did you hear that from? Did you hear that on AFR or at your church?

Seriously, the whole "Obama is a terrorist" thing is BS propaganda.

Also, what is wrong with having socialist ideals? Do you not understand that "true democracy" is a form of socialism to a degree? What's wrong with trying to see that everyone is looked after? This is somewhat an impossibility, but the fact is, if more people within the government were truly looking out for the people things wouldn't be nearly as convoluted and corrupted by lobbiest and special interests groups.

Yessir, sounds good enough for me.

Also, wasn't he the one saying people need to get their kids to 'put down the video games'? What a fake.

Well, when you take it out of context, sure. The "put down the video games" comment was in reference to kids that don't focus on school. Video games are fine and dandy when they don't have an adverse effect on your schoolwork. No need to hate on Obama for preaching something totally reasonable. So what if he plays a little Brawl to unwind? The man is undoubtedly under a lot of stress, so I think he deserves a breather once in a while.

My issue is not so much the plausible ties to terrorist groups as it is the fact that this man has spoon-fed millions of people this doctrine of 'change' without giving a single detail about what kind of 'change' he will bring and disclosing no policies he hopes to implement besides those already endorsed, in part or in full, by the other two candidates. His empty rhetoric composed of words not his own has fooled a large portion of the populace into possibly nominating and backing a political candidate they know nothing about. This man has received the political endorsement of Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the NOI (Nation of Islam, a radical religious group advocating black supremacy and anti-Semitism). An endorsement like this would be jumped on by every news outlet in the nation if it weren't for three things: a) Barack Hussein Obama is not a conservative, thus he gets a pass; b) Barack Hussein Obama is a minority, so he gets a pass, and c) Barack Hussein Obama is the MSM's pick for the presidency, so he gets as many passes as he wants. Not rejecting a public endorsement from such a hateful racist as Louis Farrakhan would be a death blow to anyone else, but Barack Hussein Obama is the media darling so we'll just gloss over any nasty bits we don't want the public to know.

FYI, my ideas don't come from AFR, I don't listen to political radio broadcasts. I see enough of that type of thing on cable. My church also has no influence besides providing a Christian Conservative base (and my own is fairly liberal in context). These people were suckered in by Mike Huckabee into promoting his narrow-minded worldviews. They drank the Kool-Aid, and Huckabee's sham of a candidacy succeeded in doing the only thing Mike Huckabee set out to accomplish--eliminating Mitt Romney from the run for President. After watching that, I resolved not to blindly support a candidate based on values he claimed to 'follow', like so many people in Alabama who utter 'I'll never vote for a Mormon! They're a cult!'. I wonder if these people have ever objectively watched a televangelist sermon...

At any rate, MookieRah, if you wish to respond please just PM me. I doubt people want a politics spat ensuing on this thread when they're trying not to explode waiting for the greatest game of the decade.

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58071 (Colombian narco-rebel ties)
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25282 (Syrian terrorist ties)

Drink the Kool-Aid...fine with me.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23485543/page/2/

I don't see an "explicit link" there. I should point out that BOTH of your sources are conservative news sites, and it sure seems like they have spun both of those stories to make Obama look like a terrorist. From what I gathered, they simply referenced Obama, but nowhere does it explicitly say "Obama supports terrorists."

(And considering that you repeatedly parrot their pet phrase "drink the Kool-Aid," referencing Jim Jones' People's Temple Cult, it seems as though they've got an IV of their own special brew stuck into your arm already.)

 

[Senor Crouch]

I agree with MookieRah, the whole Obama is a terrorist thing is total BS.

However, I don't know how Obama playing Brawl necessarily is a good quality to being the U.S. President. I mean it is cool and all, but I am not sure he would be the best choice for the U.S. Well come to think of it I don't think Hillary, Obama, or McCain are best for the country, but that is just me.

72 hours left! Yes!

EDIT: Whoa, things are heating up in here. I going to get out of here before I get too involved into this political thread. Politics seem to bring out the worst in me. I will just sit and wait four years until Mit Romney can run for President again.

 

[The Executive]

@Aeris

Touche. What defines an 'explicit' link, though? I was under the impression that a hyperlink with caption was as explicit as you can be without posting a detailed wall-of-text summary no one will want to read in the first place.

I know I took the video games quote out of context. I'm just upset with the way the media (and most older influential people in general *coughBrokawcough*) view video games as a complete waste of time detrimental to the neo-Luddite ideas of entertainment dating back to the 1800's which these people adore. The whole 'games as a scapegoat for all the real problems we're too afraid to face' routine' is starting to wear thin...just ask Jack Thompson--or better yet, the Florida Bar. B. H. Obama could've picked a better (or worse) metaphor.

 

[OrlanduEX]

My issue is not so much the plausible ties to terrorist groups as it is the fact that this man has spoon-fed millions of people this doctrine of 'change' without giving a single detail about what kind of 'change' he will bring and disclosing no policies he hopes to implement besides those already endorsed, in part or in full, by the other two candidates. His empty rhetoric composed of words not his own has fooled a large portion of the populace into possibly nominating and backing a political candidate they know nothing about. This man has received the political endorsement of Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the NOI (Nation of Islam, a radical religious group advocating black supremacy and anti-Semitism). An endorsement like this would be jumped on by every news outlet in the nation if it weren't for three things: a) Barack Hussein Obama is not a conservative, thus he gets a pass; b) Barack Hussein Obama is a minority, so he gets a pass, and c) Barack Hussein Obama is the MSM's pick for the presidency, so he gets as many passes as he wants. Not rejecting a public endorsement from such a hateful racist as Louis Farrakhan would be a death blow to anyone else, but Barack Hussein Obama is the media darling so we'll just gloss over any nasty bits we don't want the public to know.

This post is hilarious. The Clinton Campaign and the Right Wing Conservatives have you hook, line, and sinker.

Barack Obama HAS presented facts and specifics as to how he will bring about change and how he is different from the other candidates. How about actually listening to his speeches or debates or even taking a visit to his website before you make these ridiculous claims?

Furthermore, it seems you missed the memo on the Farrakhan thing. Barack Obama rejected and denounced Louis Farrakhan's endorsement on live TV in the most recent debate. Shows how much YOU know, oh virulent one. The rest of the crap you said about that means nothing.
Clinton, however, was not so forceful in rejecting a blatantly racist supporter in her campaign who said that "Hispanics can't vote for Barack Obama simply because he is black."
When this statement was brought to Miss Clinton's attention, instead of rejecting and denouncing this endorsement as Barack Obama rejected Louis Farrakhan, she said "Oh people are entitled to their opinions" or some s*** like that. When the media started slaughtering her for it, she acted like she hadn't understood the question and was quick to appear apologetic.

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58071 (Colombian narco-rebel ties)
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25282 (Syrian terrorist ties)

Drink the Kool-Aid...fine with me.

This is too much. Do you really think that these rumor spreading sources have any credibility at all? Don't you think that if anyone actually believed this crap that they would attack Obama on it? Even Hugo Chavez has called this a lie. Even John McCain has made it clear that Obama is a respectable American and not associated with terrorism in any way.

Way to fail. I can understand not liking the policies or message of a candidate, but your post suggested a deep-seated hatred towards Obama without reasonable cause.

 

[Jellybelly]

I'd laugh if the video game case was empty and it was a clever way to grab the smash vote.

The big question here is, why does he get brawl early?! He's not exactly the president is he? He probably went to sears or sumthin.

 

[mangodurban]

I hope i get Obama on my friends list. THAT WOULD BE EPIC.

 

[Demon Kirby]

This thread has been derailed badly.

I just wanted to see a vid and not some pissing about Obama.

 

[darkjedi187]

Would love to see the vid!!

 

[Masque]

@Aeris

Touche. What defines an 'explicit' link, though? I was under the impression that a hyperlink with caption was as explicit as you can be without posting a detailed wall-of-text summary no one will want to read in the first place.

I know I took the video games quote out of context. I'm just upset with the way the media (and most older influential people in general *coughBrokawcough*) view video games as a complete waste of time detrimental to the neo-Luddite ideas of entertainment dating back to the 1800's which these people adore. The whole 'games as a scapegoat for all the real problems we're too afraid to face' routine' is starting to wear thin...just ask Jack Thompson--or better yet, the Florida Bar. B. H. Obama could've picked a better (or worse) metaphor.

In hopes that you aren't being deliberately coy about it, by "explicit link" I meant "explicit" in the sense that the information found undoubtedly connected Obama to the drug lords and furthermore provided irrefutable proof that Obama can and will support these organizations if elected president. If anything, it sounds more like those groups are merely hopeful that Obama will win and, in turn, support them, but it seems much more likely that it is just wishful thinking on their part. He just happened to be the candidate they figured would be most useful in getting them into power, but it is merely speculation on the part of the drug lords, twisted even further by that site's conservative bent.

(And if you were playing off of the multiple usages of "link," then I did pick up on it--don't worry.)

I do agree about video games, though. People get all hot and bothered by something that I think is truly a wonder for society. Really great games are like novels or films but better because they are more immersive--YOU participate in the action, thus personalizing the story and really elucidating the themes of said game. Two such examples (for me) are Final Fantasy VII and MOTHER 3. Wonderful games, wonderful stories--just plain wonderful.

The converse of this argument is that people ***** about games making kids kill. In this case, the answer is simple: no, they don't. Kids can be influenced by a game, but ultimately it is the parent's responsibility to monitor what their children do or do not play. Likewise, most (if not all) sane children who play games know the difference between fiction and reality. As long as that barrier is made clear in terms of violent games, there really is no conflict whatsoever.

(And why "B.H. Obama" instead of "Barack Obama" or simply "Obama"? You wouldn't be trying to imply something negative about his middle name, would you? )

 

[MookieRah]

However, I don't know how Obama playing Brawl necessarily is a good quality to being the U.S. President. I mean it is cool and all, but I am not sure he would be the best choice for the U.S. Well come to think of it I don't think Hillary, Obama, or McCain are best for the country, but that is just me.

How does it hurt his ability to be a good president by liking video games? Seriously... It's something to do to entertain yourself in your free time. It's not like he is going to hook up a 360 in the Oval Office and spend all of his time playing Halo 3 or some ****.

@The Executive
Yeah, Aeris encapsulated what I was going to say before I could post it. Often times with these small news sources, especially the ones that claim to be "free" or "unbiased" end up being a flag that it's probably hanging out on the right.

Also, if there were REAL and/or LEGIT ties to Obama and any terrorist group why hasn't anyone questioned him about it? Seeing how up tight this country is about removing freedoms for a false sense of security you would think that if there was any truth to this it would have been brought to light by now.

 

[reu_1303]

Yeah I'm looking at the videos and I can't find this video anywhere on CNN? what was the title of the Video?

 

[Jellybelly]

Hilary, you must recover!

 

[Midguy]

The Executive,
Obama denounced the support of Farrakhan, so that point that you were trying to drive so hard is moot. And to say that he hasn't discussed any policy is ignorant. Just because you don't seek the answers and wait to be spoonfed by what the media wants you to hear, doesn't mean the answers aren't out there.