Brawlitics- More than you might think.

[Lynkx]

**** Gimpy and Eggz, Obama is the true pro

 

[AlphaDragoon2002]

My problem with Hillary (among other things):

- She supports Jack Thompson. Auto-fail, right there, the end.

 

[The Executive]

This post is hilarious. The Clinton Campaign and the Right Wing Conservatives have you hook, line, and sinker.

I'm not in favor of any party this time around. The Right-Wing is pouncing on the fragmentation of the Left while ignoring their own internal dissent and the only reason the Clinton Campaign hasn't nauseated me beyond belief is that I knew up front how she was going to play this race. At least she doesn't hide her lust for power.

Barack Obama HAS presented facts and specifics as to how he will bring about change and how he is different from the other candidates. How about actually listening to his speeches or debates or even taking a visit to his website before you make these ridiculous claims?

I've heard speeches, but it's hard to call them 'his' when the emotive statements he uses to rally people in between rhetoric are spliced from other people's work and passed as his own.

Furthermore, it seems you missed the memo on the Farrakhan thing. Barack Obama rejected and denounced Louis Farrakhan's endorsement on live TV in the most recent debate.

I'd prefer not to watch TV debates; candidates answer stock questions with preplanned statements written by an underling. I'd like to hear from the actual candidate, and I'd like to hear actual questions asked (ex. "How are you going to withdraw troops from Iraq ASAP as purported, Mr. Obama, without causing an internal breakdown within the country and exposing the troops still there to greater risk?"), not ones that skim the surface and offer opportunities for superficial answers.

Clinton, however, was not so forceful in rejecting a blatantly racist supporter in her campaign who said that "Hispanics can't vote for Barack Obama simply because he is black."
When this statement was brought to Miss Clinton's attention, instead of rejecting and denouncing this endorsement as Barack Obama rejected Louis Farrakhan, she said "Oh people are entitled to their opinions" or some s*** like that. When the media started slaughtering her for it, she acted like she hadn't understood the question and was quick to appear apologetic.

I never said anyting to the contrary. In fact, I can't say I'm surprised.

Way to fail. I can understand not liking the policies or message of a candidate, but your post suggested a deep-seated hatred towards Obama without reasonable cause.

It's not deep-seated, it's not hatred, and it's not specifically at Obama. I'm waiting for a politician to be honest, detailed, and forthcoming with their plans if they plan to lead this country for the next four years. All I see are three candidates who exemplify the antithesis of these attributes to varying degrees. If you want me to share my opinion of McCain or Clinton, I'd gladly do it, but this is neither the time nor the place. The last I remembered SWF had an off-topic forum; if you want this to continue do it there.

In hopes that you aren't being deliberately coy about it, by "explicit link" I meant "explicit" in the sense that the information found undoubtedly connected Obama to the drug lords and furthermore provided irrefutable proof that Obama can and will support these organizations if elected president. If anything, it sounds more like those groups are merely hopeful that Obama will win and, in turn, support them, but it seems much more likely that it is just wishful thinking on their part. He just happened to be the candidate they figured would be most useful in getting them into power, but it is merely speculation on the part of the drug lords, twisted even further by that site's conservative bent.

Conservatives have a LONG way to go before even approaching the spin level of Left-Wing news sites, but that's neither here nor there; one can't necessarily find a neutral news source these days. It's unfortunate, really.

I do agree about video games, though. People get all hot and bothered by something that I think is truly a wonder for society. Really great games are like novels or films but better because they are more immersive--YOU participate in the action, thus personalizing the story and really elucidating the themes of said game. Two such examples (for me) are Final Fantasy VII and MOTHER 3. Wonderful games, wonderful stories--just plain wonderful.

The converse of this argument is that people ***** about games making kids kill. In this case, the answer is simple: no, they don't. Kids can be influenced by a game, but ultimately it is the parent's responsibility to monitor what their children do or do not play. Likewise, most (if not all) sane children who play games know the difference between fiction and reality. As long as that barrier is made clear in terms of violent games, there really is no conflict whatsoever.

Parents these day lack the ability to take responsibility for raising a child. As the foremost influence in their child's life, they are for at least the first 8-10 years directly responsible for what their child sees and doesn't sees, does and doesn't do, etc. To blame video games is utterly ridiculous. The fact that most of it comes from conservatives doesn't help me, either...except for proving thatI am not an AFR/Limbaugh junkie as some would imply.

(And why "B.H. Obama" instead of "Barack Obama" or simply "Obama"? You wouldn't be trying to imply something negative about his middle name, would you? )

His wife herself has drawn attention to it while trying to cover it up. I say why cover it up if there's nothing to hide? It's the man's middle name, it's highly unique for an American presidential candidate, and if anything he should use it more to try and alleviate the negative stimulus the word has in this country. Just don't hide it.

 

[OrlanduEX]

I've heard speeches, but it's hard to call them 'his' when the emotive statements he uses to rally people in between rhetoric are spliced from other people's work and passed as his own

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If you'd listened to those speeches, you'd know that many of his statements ARE his own. Just because he borrows lines from MLK (the fierce urgency of now) and his OWN FRIEND, Deval Patrick (Just words), doesn't mean he is somehow not credible.
All presidential candidates use lines that were contained in other speeches. It's a fact. No one comes up with all of their own stuff.

I'd prefer not to watch TV debates; candidates answer stock questions with preplanned statements written by an underling. I'd like to hear from the actual candidate, and I'd like to hear actual questions asked (ex. "How are you going to withdraw troops from Iraq ASAP as purported, Mr. Obama, without causing an internal breakdown within the country and exposing the troops still there to greater risk?"), not ones that skim the surface and offer opportunities for superficial answers.

Watch the debates. The candidates are asked questions like that every time. The debates are organized by neutral third parties, not underlings. Are Tim Russert and Wolf Blitzer "underlings"?

His wife herself has drawn attention to it while trying to cover it up. I say why cover it up if there's nothing to hide? It's the man's middle name, it's highly unique for an American presidential candidate, and if anything he should use it more to try and alleviate the negative stimulus the word has in this country. Just don't hide it.

No one is trying to hide the fact that Obama's middle name is Hussein. Everyone knows that. But please don't try to act like you aren't conveying a particular message when you repeat his middle name in every reference to him.
Do we always refer to Bill Clinton as William Jefferson Clinton or Hillary as Hillary Rodham Clinton or John McCain as John Sidney McCain III or George Bush as George Walker Bush?
I don't think so.
Guess who else always says "Barack Hussein Obama"? Right wing conservative talk show hosts who go around spreading rumors that Obama is a terrorist just like you do.

 

[joeysmash]

... Obama sucks, Clinton sucks heck, even though i tend to be conservative, mccain sucks... this election is going to suck... but i think its time this thread close, we don't need a flame war here.

 

[joeysmash]

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Guess who else always says "Barack Hussein Obama"? Right wing conservative talk show hosts who go around spreading rumors that Obama is a terrorist just like you do.

never heard anyone say that before... stupid lies

 

[AttackstorM]

obama plays brawl!?!?! zomg obama for president!!!!

 

[OrlanduEX]

... Obama sucks, Clinton sucks heck, even though i tend to be conservative, mccain sucks... this election is going to suck... but i think its time this thread close, we don't need a flame war here.

Who's flaming?

 

[maxieman]

Is Obama Chuck approved?

I rest my case

 

[The Executive]

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If you'd listened to those speeches, you'd know that many of his statements ARE his own. Just because he borrows lines from MLK (the fierce urgency of now) and his OWN FRIEND, Deval Patrick (Just words), doesn't mean he is somehow not credible.
All presidential candidates use lines that were contained in other speeches. It's a fact. No one comes up with all of their own stuff.

Granted.

Watch the debates. The candidates are asked questions like that every time. The debates are organized by neutral third parties, not underlings.

I never said underlings organize debates. Underlings (specifically, staffers) write stock responses to questions likely to be asked for the candidate to recite and embellish or revise as necessary. I would just like to hear an original, non-stock response actually written by a candidate.

No one is trying to hide the fact that Obama's middle name is Hussein. Everyone knows that. But please don't try to act like you aren't conveying a particular message when you repeat his middle name in every reference to him.
Do we always refer to Bill Clinton as William Jefferson Clinton or Hillary as Hillary Rodham Clinton or John McCain as John Sidney McCain III or George Bush as George Walker Bush?
I don't think so.

The only conveying being done is in your mind. Even if I were to attempt to compare a United States Senator to a dictatorial madman (which I most certainly am not and if I were I would use something with more basis and logic than a mere name) you can only lead a horse to water. You can't make him drink.

And what would be the term of choice for left-wing pundits or (-wing pundits in general) when referring to the current POTUS? Oh, yeah. DUBYA. If we're going to point fingers, might as well do a good job of it.

Guess who else always says "Barack Hussein Obama"? Right wing conservative talk show hosts who go around spreading rumors that Obama is a terrorist just like you do.

I really wouldn't know. Again, I make it a point to avoid radio shows. There are little means of communicating with the person making all the statements; it's more of a one-way I talk and you listen medium. Not my type. And let's stop with the mud-slinging, OK? The phrase 'just like you do' is very affronting, and my initial statements were in criticism of Barack Obama, not condescendingly bashing OrlanduEX for supporting him. I would appreciate it if your statements were also more along the lines of giving reasons why you defend Obama and less along the lines of attacking mine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

 

[The Executive]

Lo doy el 'bump'.

 

[K4ppah]

Aaaaaaaand this is why you should need to pass some sort of an IQ test before you can vote.

Seriously, you idiots are actually being swayed in your political opinion because a candidate PLAYS THE SAME VIDEO GAME YOU DO?

Think about that for a second.

I'm going to need to consider moving out of the country if Obama gets elected simply because he's the 'hip' choice.

 

[Dubyah8r]

I think its funny how people are getting defensive of the political system by acting like they have to explain to us not to vote for someone because because of a video game... that part of my post was obviously a joke as anyone with an ounce of sense knows how ridiculous that is anyway (although I do support Obama, not for that reason) btw, he wasn't actually playing the game but it could be seen behind hum along with a wii.

Edit: I didn't see the video on CNN.com, I saw it live on CNN so I can't tell you the name... sorry guys, but trust me, it was EPIC!

 

[plasmatorture]

I'm going to need to consider moving out of the country if Obama gets elected simply because he's the 'hip' choice.

Yeah, becuase the results of the last election were based on equally sound ideas and logic.


One of the most influential political philosophers of all time wrote "The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism." Mull over that.

 

[Banjodorf]

Obama is now much more awesome.

Obama for god tier!

I'd bet he mained and ***** with Bowser in Melee. He's that awesome.

 

[Shiny Ivysaur]

Alright a quick settler:

NOONE WAS/IS GOING TO VOTE FOR OBABMA BECAUSE HE PLAYS BRAWL. IT'S A JOKE

>>The Executive
I have to put this out there: If you don't watch the debates, then you can't blame Obama because your facts are wrong. Also, besides Olbermann and possibly Matthews, name a leftist news organisation (Daily Show and Colbert Report don't count. They aren't news shows. They're comedy shows)

And saying Senator Obama's middle name so often is in stark contrast to how we as a people refer to other people, and emphasizes it. Emphasizing it draws imaginary connections with one other well-known Hussein. Unless you always include Rodham and Walker, when you say "Barack Hussein Obama" you're trying to connect him to terrorism.

 

[The Executive]

Air America, The New York Times, Hoffmania, MSNBC, Democratic Underground, USA Today, CNN, I could go on...

 

[EToaster]

*loads up Brawl and goes to "With Friends"*

Obama (Online)
"Real men use items!"

 

[Shiny Ivysaur]

Air America, The New York Times, Hoffmania, MSNBC, Democratic Underground, USA Today, CNN, I could go on...

Right, lets see...

Air America: Granted, but a relatively small news source
New York Times: Source please.
Hoffmania: What's a Hoffmania?
MSNBC: You mean the one with Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough, and Pat Buchanan?
Democratic underground: Also granted, also relatively unknown.
USA Today: [citation needed]
CNN: Seriously? CNN? Hate to sound redundant, but source needed.

 

[The Executive]

Right, lets see...

Air America: Granted, but a relatively small news source
New York Times: Source please.
Hoffmania: What's a Hoffmania?
MSNBC: You mean the one with Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough, and Pat Buchanan?
Democratic underground: Also granted, also relatively unknown.
USA Today: [citation needed]
CNN: Seriously? CNN? Hate to sound redundant, but source needed.

Well, I named two solid ones, so I'm done here...gotta leave the site so I don't go insane over the next 48 hours.

 

[clace]

KEEP UR POLITIKS AWAY FROM MAH BRAWLZ!

Stop! Grammar time.

Someone needs to make a fake youtube match called:

Falco(Hilary Clinton) vs. Marth(Obama).

Whoever does gets my vote.