1) I have extensive knowledge of both games. You said so yourself that only the vast majority of casual players have this knowledge... what say I'm one of the minority?
Wait, what?
My knowledge of most Nintendo games is pretty high, thank you, and I'll debate with anyone claiming otherwise. As for the matter of me being a casual player, I don't see this as true AT ALL.
I thought you were implying you were a Casual player when you got upset when I said that you have to be a Competitive player to know enough to participate in this discussion. The fact of the matter is that many Competitive players don't know enough to be a part of this discussion. It requires
that much knowledge.
Also, I very much question your knowledge and judgment with statements like "Captain Falcon is just as good as anyone else!".
Who exactly defines what a casual player of the game is exactly? I'm as sure as you are that tourney's aren't programmed into the game.
You go to tournaments, you're a Competitive player. Or you play against people who
do go to tournaments
a lot.
Say I were to only extensively play Brawl without competing at a single tourney. Does this make me a casual player? I should think not.
Tell me, have you encountered a Pikachu who uses Quick Attack Cancels as an approach? Have you encountered DeDeDes who chaingrab? Have you encountered Zeldas who combo non-sweetspotted Dairs into sweetspotted Dairs when edgeguarding?
If you don't go to tournaments, you'll only play against a limited amount of people. Said limited amount of people, if
they don't go to tournaments, will also have played a limited amount of people. You will all play people of limited skill because they do not go to tournaments or hang out on Smashboards enough to read up on the latest, the best and the most common.
Have you learned how to handle Glide Tossing? Because if you haven't, you could very well get destroyed by a Diddy the first time you play a Diddy who does. This is why Casuals are on a lower level, their chances of having dealt with certain strategies are very small.
You have most probably not encountered a lot of strategies. And as such, you will probably not be able to handle them very well. Reading about them isn't enough, Training Mode isn't enough. You need to practice against human opposition in real time.
I'll also assume you're implying that you know all there is to know about Brawl/Melee and that I am inferior in terms of your knowledge towards the games. How on Earth does that theory work out? I have the dedication to learn everything there is about the two games. My only drawback is that I have not entered a Brawl tourney. I don't think this has any relevance as to my knowledge of the games themselves at all.
I assumed you were a Casual player from your posts. And statements like how Captain Falcon is on an equal playing field as everyone else.
I don't know
all there is to know. I just know a lot more than
you.
2) I'm fully aware that by just playing the game does not automatically make me knowledgable in the way of the game. Of course, I've read up about the game. I've done so several years before the initial release, even, and afterwards, too.
How could you
possibly read up on the game "several years" before it was initially released? Unless you mean the Smash Dojo, which didn't really give us much useful (new) information and which hasn't been around for "several years" (it was around for, what, 2 years before the release?).
With that said, I'll contradict my first statement by adding that simply playing the game is probably enough to know all about the game.
Unless you're a genius at analyzing games and coming up with the perfect strategies for each character and the perfect ways to deal with them, no.
Everything to know about the game itself is, obviously, within the game itself, excluding the game's history. Of course, if someone were to do this with both Brawl and Melee, I'm positive that their opinion of the balance was at least meritable.
Not really. One can play a game for years without understanding it if one lacks the necessary knowledge and mindset to accurate gauge things. How many people who'd played Melee for years haven't told you Roy is better than Marth simply because they never figured out how to accurately play Marth?
3) You're apparentely mistaking the whole concept of an opinion. Large amounts of experience and knowledge is not needed in order to have an opinion on anything, only theories. I was expressing my opinion, not explaining a theory. The two words actually have different definitions.
I'm sorry, what part of "This discussion has no place for pure opinion without anything to back it up." was too Irish for you to grasp? You can't just say "This is my opinion". Fine, so we'd be stuck with 29,000 opinions. That's not very helpful. Or verifiable.
If I find Falcon to be just as easy to use as the other characters, then so be it. No amount of evidence, experience and/or knowledge is needed to make that decision.
The question is, why are you so adamant about keeping that opinion when so many of us tell us why you're wrong? It's OK to have an opinion. But one should also know when to admit one's wrong and
revise one's opinion.
Also, ease of usage =/= ease of winning.
Falcon is not one of my mains nor my secondaries. I was simply establishing an opinion, of which I could do even without my knowledge.
Random opinions have no place in this discussion.
It may be that you have more knowledge than me of the game. In this case, which to be honest is probable, knowledge can still not be used to reflect someone else's opinion. If I were to say that I disliked every character in the game, would you be able to defy my statement? The answer is no, as it is only an opinion.
Stop justifying your opinion. I told you this thread has no place for people just stomping in and stating their opinions.
Peach is Top Tier. That's my opinion, there. Now if 10 more people say that, will that magically make her Top Tier?
4) Yes, most of my posts are opinion, but so are every other member's posts.
No they're not. Mine aren't pure opinion.
And who the hell said evidence is needed to back up an opinion...?
In
this thread, you kinda need it. We have no need for blind opinions here. I told you this.
Gah! More babbling about opinion.
I never said I found Brawl to be more balanced, just that I think the characters are more balanced than others suggest. You should maybe of read my first post a little clearer.
Fine.
You: Captain Falcon is just as good as anyone else because I think so!
6) I know enough about this game to have my opinion heard in this thread, as does anyone. The thread's question does not refer to any knowledge I am not already aware of. Both of us are expressing opinions now in this debate, not forcing it onto the other that everything we say is true.
You can talk how much you want in this thread. The question is what value it brings to the thread when what you say is highly inaccurate and pure opinion, using zero facts to support it. It's just someone spewing random opinions.
Yay.
Again, I was only basing this on my person opinion. How I came about to gain this opinion is explained above.
