Brawl = Broken Game

[Corpsecreate]

So I've played melee, I've played smash 64 and I've played brawl. In order of my favourites it would be Melee - Brawl - 64. In order of BUGGED GAME it certainly goes BRAWL - MELEE - 64. From the first time playing Brawl there was something about it. Something lagged, broken, strange, weird. Different from Melee. Now that I've played Brawl ALOT (like im sure everyone else has) I'm nearing the point where I'm no longer interested in playing this game. The number of ingame videos I have collected that contain bugged game mechanics and weird glitches is approaching so many that its hard to discerne one recorded video from another (Nintendo just couldnt let us name our videos could they?). Heres pictures that show the clear bugs of this game (there is no hacks or anything of the type applied here, this is just playing the game normally without any modification).

Me Dodging **THE DODGE CERTAINLY HAS NOT ENDED BY THIS POINT IN TIME**
Me getting hit during that dodge animation.
Glitched Illongated Kirby mouth.

I have many other videos of me dodging/blocking and still receiving damage, It is supremely annoying when it happens to me ingame and it is what makes me want to quit this game. The kirby glitch happened after I had killed him with snake by the top of the screen. Immediatley after he died he teleported onto the stage with that glitched model and then suddenly disappeared from the stage.

 

[AquaTech]

Perhaps you should email Nintendo, and complain to them. Be sure to attach your glitch pictures for them.

 

[Akiak]

I say if the same number of people played some other game with the same intensity then they would find the same number of glitches in that game. Its all because of the many Brawlers out there.

 

[MookieRah]

I would also point out that games are getting more and more complicated and they are beginning to go to other companies for major pieces of the games engine (Brawl uses Havok, and many PC games already use various engines that power other games) so there is definitely a lot of things that would contribute to glitches. While that is the case, I think Brawl is a very glitch minimal game and a lot more polished than many other titles out there.

 

[Corpsecreate]

Yeah I totally agree that there are more buggier games out there but I just thought that people might like to see the kind of weird glitches ive experienced in brawl and also to find out if anyone else is having the same problems as me.

 

[LuLLo]

I've gotte say I never had any trouble with Brawl concerning glitches and bugs.
The only thing I ever had in a match is the Wolf-Side B-Edge bug, in which you end above the edge and then fall to your doom unless your reaction time is not n00b (which it was when it first happened to me).
Other than that, I never have trouble with glitches, bugs, or anything else in the game which seems/is out of place.
(except the buffer system, which is no glitch/bug, spam A with Ike, get knocked of stage, do a Nair, Death...)

 

[Liex Link]

Thats why we should pray that Sukuari doesn't create SSB4.

 

[Blooqkazoo]

Thats why we should pray that Sukuari doesn't create SSB4.

I'm sure Sakurai didn't check for all the glitches.

I love glitches! That's one of the only reasons why I still play Brawl.

 

[Wave⁂]

Melee had over 100 glitches/tricks, and they were more awesome than Brawl's, too. YYG Thunder Jacket, Soul Shocker, all the cool boomerang + grapple tricks... and Pika's gigantic collision bubble during Agility.

 

[SmashBrother2008]

Glitches and bugs aren't really bad in ANY smash game that I've noticed. If you want to see glitches take a look at GTA 3 on PS2...holy crap its so glitchy.

 

[Spoonbob]

You do realize that the airdodge animation doesn't start for like, one or two frames. If you're pressing it as soon as you're about to get hit, that's why you're getting hit. Press it earlier.

This thread seems dumb. It sounds like you just lost a lot of games due to your own botched airdodges, and now you are complaining that it's the game itself. :\

 

[Ice!]

Brawl glitchy? Ha, any game has glitches, and brawl have few compared to other games.

 

[fissionprime]

how can you say brawl is the most glitchy, wavedashing in melee, a very important technique, was a glitch.

 

[Corpsecreate]

You do realize that the airdodge animation doesn't start for like, one or two frames. If you're pressing it as soon as you're about to get hit, that's why you're getting hit. Press it earlier.

This thread seems dumb. It sounds like you just lost a lot of games due to your own botched airdodges, and now you are complaining that it's the game itself. :\

Sorry but thats just not true I rarely lose any games against the opponent I fight regularly (my brother) its just that I have noticed this happen on MANY occassions and it is extremely frustrating. Oh and in that picture I posted, the animation has already started.

 

[Ange]

wavedashing in melee, a very important technique, was a glitch.

No it wasnt.

/facepalm

Glitches are fun in games as long as they're not fatal, like crashing your data etc.

 

[Ref]

Air dodges have a set frame of invincibility and then like a few open frames.

it's not a glitch.

Example Ness' air dodge.

Air dodge
ENDS: 50
Invincibility: 4-30

Meaning there are 20 frames of opening after you air dodge plus a 3 frame start up.

Solution? dodge the hit so that the hit box passes between frames 4-30. Your opponent just needs to do the opposite. Hit the Air dodge during the 3 frame start up or 20 frame end time.


THIS IS NESS' AIR DODGE. Some characters have different air dodges.

 

[MyCurse4Life]

if this is right, then whats going to happen with SSB4?

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

So....what's your point? You basically just made a thread saying that brawl has a lot of glitches and you don't want to play it anymore. Go play Melee or something else, then. The community really could care less if you think Brawl is a glitched game. You probably haven't even taken the time to try and understand why it is that you're getting hit while airdodging.

 

[Corpsecreate]

So....what's your point? You basically just made a thread saying that brawl has a lot of glitches and you don't want to play it anymore. Go play Melee or something else, then. The community really could care less if you think Brawl is a glitched game. You probably haven't even taken the time to try and understand why it is that you're getting hit while airdodging.

Oh yes I have

 

[FireKirby7]

That usually happens to me too. When I see that happen, I just say, "Hey, I airdodged" and continue to fight.

 

[Spoonbob]

Air dodges have a set frame of invincibility and then like a few open frames.

it's not a glitch.

Example Ness' air dodge.

Air dodge
ENDS: 50
Invincibility: 4-30

Meaning there are 20 frames of opening after you air dodge plus a 3 frame start up.

Solution? dodge the hit so that the hit box passes between frames 4-30. Your opponent just needs to do the opposite. Hit the Air dodge during the 3 frame start up or 20 frame end time.


THIS IS NESS' AIR DODGE. Some characters have different air dodges.

This.

I still feel you're trying to find a scapegoat for losing.

 

[Corpsecreate]

Sorry but thats just not true I rarely lose any games against the opponent I fight regularly (my brother) its just that I have noticed this happen on MANY occassions and it is extremely frustrating. Oh and in that picture I posted, the animation has already started.

...did you read this?

 

[fissionprime]

ok, maybe wavedashing wasn't a glitch, but it was an unintended result of the game physics.

 

[Ice!]

Or there are some screwed CDs around.

 

[petre]

ok, maybe wavedashing wasn't a glitch, but it was an unintended result of the game physics.

i dont want to start a melee debate in here but once again, lol no. it was intended.

to the OP, is your disc scratched or something then? i've never heard of that kirby glitch before. and if you really are getting hit in the middle of your airdodge, there could be something wrong with your game.

or you could just have bad timing.

 

[:mad:]

Broken game...?
Mine works just fine...

 

[ReppinThat703]

maybe you should just stick with brawl+ if you think brawl is so broken?

 

[Super_Sonic8677]

maybe you should just stick with brawl+ if you think brawl is so broken?

lol

Op there are glitches and oddities in every single video game ever made. If you don't like Brawl,play Melee or Smash 64.

 

[Lemon?]

I never had any of the "glitches" you mentioned happen to me, maybe you are airdodging too early or too late, cant really tell just by looking at those pics, it'd be easier if we had a vid or something.

As for getting hit while the shield is up, you do know that the shield gets smaller the longer you have it out right? Certain parts of the character's body become vulnerable, this is more noticeable in bigger characters like 3D, DK, etc

 

[MBlaze]

Nothing we don't already know.

 

[Negi-Kun]

Spoiler

Meta Knight.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Is the misspelling of Sakurai's name a meme I missed or are people just plain stupid.

 

[Richard7]

I am the brother mentioned by Corpsecreate and I can say without any doubts that Brawl is bugged. The word 'glitchy" has been used a lot. I think the more correct word is inconsistent. Brawl is massively inconsistent. Bugged is also an acceptable word .

1 question. If you are on the very left of a stage and then you power shield an attack, is it normal for you to fall off? I don't think it is because when you powers shield you don't move or get pushed from attacks.

 

[Zook]

Thats why we should pray that Sukuari doesn't create SSB4.

Sakurai directed ALL the Smash games, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[pure_awesome]

I should point out that if Falcon's Upair only hit you where it shows it's hitting you in the second picture, then your airdodge worked, since that's a later part of his hitbox. So airdodge later. It's likely you just aren't as familiar with the lengths and mechanics of Brawl's dodge system as you think you are.

Before this complaint is taken seriously, actual video footage of someone being hit out of their airdodge would need to be shown.

And no, you will not slide off the stage if you PS an attack properly.

 

[Richard7]

Before this complaint is taken seriously, actual video footage of someone being hit out of their airdodge would need to be shown.

And no, you will not slide off the stage if you PS an attack properly.

Properly? How do you power shield something properly? Isn't it just a matter of shielding at the right frame? Also, we have videos of many bugs and inconsistencies, its just a matter of getting them from our Wii and onto Youtube.

 

[Tianxiazhai]

Thats why we should pray that Sukuari doesn't create SSB4.

Do you not understand Sakurai did a great job on Ssb64 and Ssbm?
He screwed up this time, but i would still want him and only him to design it.

 

[Corpsecreate]

I can upload the video to youtube when I can get my hands on a camera, I'll show the video and you will see that I am CLEARLY dodging on time and yet I still get hit.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Pika's gigantic collision bubble during Agility.

still exists in brawl. lol

 

[pure_awesome]

I can upload the video to youtube when I can get my hands on a camera, I'll show the video and you will see that I am CLEARLY dodging on time and yet I still get hit.

I've got my camera all set up right now, I was just taking a vid for the Falcon boards.

Want me to take it?