'Brave' New Character (datamined)

[SSGuy]

Would Erdrick be a bit of a zoning character then? A sort of mixture between the styles of Toon Link and Robin, yet a little more defensive?

I've been saying the stats compliment Erdrick being a similar style to Toon Link or Young Link. However, the weight is throwing me off a bit. That kind of play style that can live for that long would be a night mare (considering we know nothing of recovery, end lag, moves, etc)

 

[Teeb147]

I've been saying the stats compliment Erdrick being a similar style to Toon Link or Young Link. However, the weight is throwing me off a bit. That kind of play style that can live for that long would be a night mare (considering we know nothing of recovery, end lag, moves, etc)

If it is Erdrick, I dont think it's the kid version with that weight. It might be a mixed fighter, which would be great. I'd love for there to be ranged magic or skills for the b moves, it'd be great to zone a bit, but it most likely wont be an actual zoning character (just in my opinion).

Just a note, but mii gunner is actually heavy. So if you think it'd be a nightmare, look at mii gunner right now. Doesnt seem that bad.

 

[SSGuy]

If it is Erdrick, I dont think it's the kid version with that weight. It might be a mixed fighter, which would be great. I'd love for there to be ranged magic or skills for the b moves, it'd be great to zone a bit, but it most likely wont be an actual zoning character (just in my opinion).

Just a note, but mii gunner is actually heavy. So if you think it'd be a nightmare, look at mii gunner right now. Doesnt seem that bad.

Even Mega Man has similar stats to that of Brave and he is pretty fine. This is a disjoint compared to a gun fire. And the one golden rule about all swords is that they all hit hard.

Regarding small Erdrick's weight, some speculate he could be in the armor and that make him heavier as a result. Like some anime Ghost and Goblins character.

 

[Teeb147]

Even Mega Man has similar stats to that of Brave and he is pretty fine. This is a disjoint compared to a gun fire. And the one golden rule about all swords is that they all hit hard.

Regarding small Erdrick's weight, some speculate he could be in the armor and that make him heavier as a result. Like some anime Ghost and Goblins character.

I doubt they' put a kid version with heavy armor. And also because it would dampen the potential for other skins. Not to say it isn't possible.

And, it depends how they want to make the character. Looking at cloud, he's practically as heavy, is really fast, and has a projectile too. So I think there's enough to say it can easily work like other characters already there. And they can always make certain attacks not hit as hard, kind of like mii swordfighter nair and fair dont hit hard but some other moves do.

And since we cant say much about the height just because of the value we saw, there's no reason to think it'd be a kid version at this point I think.

 

[Looma]

A friend of mine on Discord brought up an interesting character that actually fits these traits really well. I don't see him brought up often but they shouldn't be completely discounted.

Sir Arthur from Ghosts n Goblins

He wears a heavy suit of armor (famously flimsy as it may be) but can also definitely be described as floaty.
He's got mountains of projectiles which would definitely place him firmly in the "zoner" camp, making this stat distribution appropriate for him.
Ghosts n Goblins can be considered a "missing NES icon" that has it's fair share of claims to fame, and was one of the earliest ones to boot.
Arthur has also seen a good amount of support. He's not an overwhelming juggernaut like Ridley or K. Rool, but neither was Simon (or Ryu back in 4).

Also, "Brave" is very commonly used as a descriptive term for knights. (or it could even be a Monty Python reference if Sakurai and his team are as cultured as I like to think they are)

 

[Deleted member]

Would be great if its Arthur, and now that I think of it he can end up fighting in his boxers so skin type would be bio rather than metallic. Knowing Sakurai he can end up making him use an armor upgrade/degrade feature. Hope he brings a Red Arremer with him if its him.

Edit: Just to add, Arthur is certainly brave for fighting in underwear

 

[fleshdude.gov]

I'm gonna be really critical of Mizumi right now, but I don't really want to sound rude. I think he is causing confusion by saying the height stat doesn't matter, because it certainly does. If you line up characters by their height stat, they go in order of tallest to shortest. Isabelle is the only character who is actually barely taller than her height stat. Captain falcon is size 18, and luigi is size 15, actually. I don't know where he is getting these fake values, but it's misinforming a lot of people. Height has always been a perfect way to gauge a character's size, lol.

So apparently height does matter!

 

[Fell God]

Brave is actually a brave hero from Fire Emblem Heroes check these digits (wait wrong site)

 

[Teeb147]

So apparently height does matter!

It's something to look into more anyway. I wonder what piranha plant's numbers for height were in the different patches.

 

[Q-Long]

Highly doubt it, but

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Yūyūki

Game translates to Brave Brave Spirit.

 

[Captain Fun]

A friend of mine on Discord brought up an interesting character that actually fits these traits really well. I don't see him brought up often but they shouldn't be completely discounted.

Sir Arthur from Ghosts n Goblins

He wears a heavy suit of armor (famously flimsy as it may be) but can also definitely be described as floaty.
He's got mountains of projectiles which would definitely place him firmly in the "zoner" camp, making this stat distribution appropriate for him.
Ghosts n Goblins can be considered a "missing NES icon" that has it's fair share of claims to fame, and was one of the earliest ones to boot.
Arthur has also seen a good amount of support. He's not an overwhelming juggernaut like Ridley or K. Rool, but neither was Simon (or Ryu back in 4).

Also, "Brave" is very commonly used as a descriptive term for knights. (or it could even be a Monty Python reference if Sakurai and his team are as cultured as I like to think they are)

Unlikely as it is, Ultimate Ghosts N Goblins is one of my favorite PSP games. I'd be down.

 

[Zem-raj]

Could Beldrick (Dragon Quest Builders) be a possibility?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net..._-_Hero.png/revision/latest?cb=20161003081608

He seems like a character that Nintendo would pick.

 

[Ornl]

He seems like a character that Nintendo would pick.

Sure ! ^^

 

[shocktarts17]

Could Beldrick (Dragon Quest Builders) be a possibility?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net..._-_Hero.png/revision/latest?cb=20161003081608

He seems like a character that Nintendo would pick.

I think that was jokingly tossed around a few times before but I think it might actually be a little more likely now. Not to mention it could even line up with leakers because he sure does look a lot like Erdrick at a quick glance.

 

[Flyboy]

Okay so in my mission to also give various DQ games a shot, I'm trying the demo for Dragon Quest Builders and...back during the "Minecraft content" days there was a joke about how "what if the Minecraft content was actually DQ Builders content". It was apparently shot down by Verge's sources, but...

Well...

I'm playing it now and...you know how the leak said Erdrick's stage was "Alefgard"? Well, that's the name of the continent you rebuild in DQB. I know that's also the continent from DQ3 but...really makes you think.

It's the Dragon Quest Builders protagonist.

1. It explains why Nekoo heard the rep was "Hero".
2. It explains the "Minecraft content".
3. It explains the possible chibi-ness.
4. It explains why tansut says they have male and female alts
5. And if they were wearing the legendary armor it'd explain their weight stat.

Look into your heart.

(I kid.)

It's been something I've tossed around facetiously before but it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up true.

 

[shocktarts17]

It's been something I've tossed around facetiously before but it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up true.

Yep I knew I had seen it around lol but in all honesty I think this would almost be the best case scenario for me since it would cover the "minecraft" content and help to avoid Steve while still representing a classic series and bringing something new to the table.

 

[Ez Quinn]

Like Robert above me, I’m pretty sure it’s Erdrick, but I guess it could be Sora (might be wishful thinking though).

I mean Vergeben has a leak saying it is Erdrick

 

[shinhed-echi]

It's been something I've tossed around facetiously before but it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up true.

I wouldn't be TOO upset, as long as his/her alts are them wearing iconic DQ armor.

(Builders would make a sweet Mii costume as well though).

 

[Teeb147]

I mean Vergeben has a leak saying it is Erdrick

Oh, did he say it himself?

Could Beldrick (Dragon Quest Builders) be a possibility?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net..._-_Hero.png/revision/latest?cb=20161003081608

He seems like a character that Nintendo would pick.

The idea of the builder character is kind of funny, and i wouldnt mind it, but I kinda doubt it, I think it would upset the japanese fanbase who're really into the original dragon quest games. who knows tho.

 

[Manonymous]

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only who thinks that this character will be a Bravely Default one !

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Could Beldrick (Dragon Quest Builders) be a possibility?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net..._-_Hero.png/revision/latest?cb=20161003081608

He seems like a character that Nintendo would pick.

Blue Link?

 

[shocktarts17]

Blue Link?

I think the joke is that the outfits look similar

 

[ryuu seika]

Courage is an actual synonym for bravery so its going to be a Zelda character

No character is more tied to the concept of courage than Agumon, who's power comes from the crest thereof and the development of true courage (and not foolhardiness) within his human partner. Translation, however, was pretty inconsistent with him, making some aspects courage and others bravery, with variation in which are which depending on whether you look at anime, manga or games. Regardless, though, his symbol, powerset and move names all stem from the same concept.

Many people discount Agumon as an anime character, too, but both his Vpet line (see Mr Game & Watch for proof that that counts as a video game) and his first PS1 title came before the manga and show in japan.

 

[shocktarts17]

No character is more tied to the concept of courage than Agumon, who's power comes from the crest thereof and the development of true courage (and not foolhardiness) within his human partner. Translation, however, was pretty inconsistent with him, making some aspects courage and others bravery, with variation in which are which depending on whether you look at anime, manga or games. Regardless, though, his symbol, powerset and move names all stem from the same concept.

Many people discount Agumon as an anime character, too, but both his Vpet line (see Mr Game & Watch for proof that that counts as a video game) and his first PS1 title came before the manga and show in japan.

I was kidding lol I don't think its actually Ravio. I really don't think Brave will mean bravery.

 

[Xigger]

Hot take! Most likely Brave fighters!

• Ravio
• Sir Arthur
• Anyone who's a knight (prob not Shovel Knight tho)
• Sans
• Chao
• Agumon

 

[Untouch]

Highly doubt it, but

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Yūyūki

Game translates to Brave Brave Spirit.

He's already a brave spirit in Ultimate so too late.

 

[Sigran101]

Tree Gelbman brought up an idea of who brave is that just gave me the strangest gut feeling. I think it actually could be Wonder Red. Before you tell me I'm crazy, just think about how well that would fit Brave. I know it's unlikely, but that's just the feeling I have now.

 

[shocktarts17]

Tree Gelbman brought up an idea of who brave is that just gave me the strangest gut feeling. I think it actually could be Wonder Red. Before you tell me I'm crazy, just think about how well that would fit Brave. I know it's unlikely, but that's just the feeling I have now.

he probably has as good of a shot as anyone else but I wouldn't have picked him for a low-traction zoner considering he fought with his fists.

 

[Sigran101]

he probably has as good of a shot as anyone else but I wouldn't have picked him for a low-traction zoner considering he fought with his fists.

He'd surely come with a group of wonderful ones since it takes at least 10 to make a construct. They would move in a condensed little group like in the game and have fists, guns, whips, swords, hammers, bombs, claws, and possibly bowguns, naginatas, boomerangs, drills, and laser goggles. They move as one unit, and the other 9 would transorm into the weapon that wonder Red uses, so there's only actually one fighting at once. So Braves stats could totally fit. This also fits with the whole "one character might take more work than any other" thing. Plus "Hero" would be like the equivalent of "Plant" for PP if it's wonder Red, and apparently there was a tease for Wonderful 101 coming to Switch in some form.

 

[fleshdude.gov]

He'd surely come with a group of wonderful ones since it takes at least 10 to make a construct. They would move in a condensed little group like in the game and have fists, guns, whips, swords, hammers, bombs, claws, and possibly bowguns, naginatas, boomerangs, drills, and laser goggles. They move as one unit, and the other 9 would transorm into the weapon that wonder Red uses, so there's only actually one fighting at once. So Braves stats could totally fit. This also fits with the whole "one character might take more work than any other" thing. Plus "Hero" would be like the equivalent of "Plant" for PP if it's wonder Red, and apparently there was a tease for Wonderful 101 coming to Switch in some form.

10 characters on screen at once for a single fighter would lag the game likely as soon as you hit 3 or 4 Wonder Reds in a match, especially in a graphically intensive stage such as Fountain of Dreams. It could potentially also get confusing very quickly in a more chaotic match.

Also, PP’s codename was “Packun”, not “Plant,” and the codename for the Mystery Character is “Brave,” not “Hero.”

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Ravio

Ravio, huh? Now that'd be amazing!

 

[Sigran101]

10 characters on screen at once for a single fighter would lag the game likely as soon as you hit 3 or 4 Wonder Reds in a match, especially in a graphically intensive stage such as Fountain of Dreams. It could potentially also get confusing very quickly in a more chaotic match.

Also, PP’s codename was “Packun”, not “Plant,” and the codename for the Mystery Character is “Brave,” not “Hero.”

The Japanese name for Brave is Hero. The English name for PP is Plant. A lot less would have to be put into the models and animations of the following wondeful ones. They wouldn't attack or anything, they'd just be there to morph. They'd basically function as big Pikmin. Look up a video of the wonderful 101 to see how they look in a pack. At this point I feel like we should be past the point of arguing that Sakurai couldn't make x character work.

 

[Dee Dude]

I have an idea, why don’t we search for any Japanese meanings for the word Brave and see if that certain relates to any video game character?

 

[SmasherMaster]

Clearly we are all sleeping on the obvious choice that Disney really wanted to push Merida for some reason.

But for real, I think the most likely one is probably the Dragon Quest guy.

 

[Teeb147]

Well, now that people think the height data might actually matter, it'd mean that the character could be around ness' height unless it's just placeholder data.

 

[GoodGrief741]

The Japanese name for Brave is Hero. The English name for PP is Plant. A lot less would have to be put into the models and animations of the following wondeful ones. They wouldn't attack or anything, they'd just be there to morph. They'd basically function as big Pikmin. Look up a video of the wonderful 101 to see how they look in a pack. At this point I feel like we should be past the point of arguing that Sakurai couldn't make x character work.

Actually you got it backwards. The Japanese for Hero is Yuusha (lit. Brave).

And ten big Pikmin certainly sounds like very taxing, especially for 4 or even 8 player battles.

 

[Sigran101]

Actually you got it backwards. The Japanese for Hero is Yuusha (lit. Brave).

And ten big Pikmin certainly sounds like very taxing, especially for 4 or even 8 player battles.

I guess, though they move as one unit in the game. It's kind of hard to explain, but basically imagine one big model that consisted of multiple characters. That's basically how they move. It could be less if it had to be, but there's no way it could be less than five, as in wonder Red and four followers. Any less and there's not much point to the character.

Edit: Ah, thanks for the clarification on Brave.

 

[Xigger]

Actually you got it backwards. The Japanese for Hero is Yuusha (lit. Brave).

And ten big Pikmin certainly sounds like very taxing, especially for 4 or even 8 player battles.

It SOUNDS like a lot, but honestly it's not that bad considering Wonderful 101 had, well, 101 heroes running around. They're all fairly low-res and covered in simple armor/cardboard boxes, and probably wouldn't have their own physics like Pikmin or Nana. Think the background villagers in Smashville.

 

[Teeb147]

So, the Dragon Quest Builder character would be short-ish, right?

 

[GoodGrief741]

I guess, though they move as one unit in the game. It's kind of hard to explain, but basically imagine one big model that consisted of multiple characters. That's basically how they move. It could be less if it had to be, but there's no way it could be less than five, as in wonder Red and four followers. Any less and there's not much point to the character.

Edit: Ah, thanks for the clarification on Brave.

I’ve played W101, and I just can’t begin to imagine how it would work, tbh.