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Courage is an actual synonym for bravery so its going to be a Zelda character, i.e. Ravio
Not metal? Which characters are categorised as such? I would guess Samus and Ganondorf, cause they wear armor. But from what I've seen, Erdrick is wearing armor as well. I kinda expect Erdrick to be "Brave", but am not so sure anymore now.
Sounds akin to Frisk more so.
I think it was Samus, Dark Samus, ROB and Mega Man.
It’s skin like Mario, since it’s “skin_type_bio”.
Can someone elaborate on how the height value affects anything then? What does it do? I find it kind of unclear.
Fatmanonice
was using the height to make some points too, so might be worth talking more about this.
I'm not an expert but as I understand it height is exactly that, their height, but it doesn't take into account different stances (like crouching for Greninja and Ridley) or model scaling which could make them not actually shorter than Mario like their height stat would suggest.Can someone elaborate on how the height value affects anything then? What does it do? I find it kind of unclear.
I think
How would model scaling change the height if it's set to be that way?
I'll admit I'm not 100% sure on this one because I saw somewhere else where they put Brave's height on Ike and it made him just shorter than Lucina which is a far cry from shorter than Mario. If I had to guess each model is designed at a certain size and then can be scaled up or down for balance purposes?
Actually Loto's most iconic design is him wearing the wayfarer clothes.
That's what confuses me a little. It would be odd if the number for the data just affects it rather than sets it. Maybe someone else knows more the details.
It could really be anybody's game. And there's no reason it'd have to be a square enix character either, and people have to be very careful about leaks. I do think the connection with DQ for the codename makes a lot of sense, but it could also be entirely different.
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So if I understand you correctly, the height is probably not that far off unless its either a really short wide character or a tall skinny one because those would be the main reasons you would need to scale it more than a character of similar height?Alright explanation for height being a scale value, so please bear the long post. (A lot of these are assumptions, so feel free to correct if you see fit
When you're working with 3D models, in addition to height you have to work with other two dimensions which are width and length (basically an x, y, and a z axis) that at least to my understanding don't appear to be in the data. So when you develop a 3D model your work area is basically a cube with set values, and the height value seems to be the measure they decided to use to scale and determine the characters correct size during the game.
In a game like smash, all the models are worked in a cube of determined dimensions and the character models are developed within the boundaries of the cube. Now working in this area of this set size would leave some interesting results if you compare models directly, small characters end up really big and big characters end up being hilariously small. So when you need to put the characters in game, you need to increase the scale of the bigger characters more than you need to increase the smaller ones so that every character appears on scale.
When you're working in this space restrictions with the addition of width and length, you need to fit characters within the cube. Some characters end up becoming even smaller like Bowser which is also one of the widest and lengthiest characters so you need to increase the scale even more than with other characters of similar size.
Now, there are a few discrepancies with some of the characters height values which ends up making explanations a bit more difficult. Ridley would need to have a higher value than samus and they have the same one, which could potentially mean that he was developed in conjunction to Samus and used an area twice as tall. (This one is practically a supposition).
Why all of this is important, while the character can be Lucas/Ness size it doesn't necessarily mean so. It only indicates that the model has been increased a certain number of times, and it could be an even smaller character that needs to be increased more due to being wide or it could be a bigger character that doesn't need to be scaled as much. This method I'm explaining is relatively easier to develop rather than working with the dimensions directly as you can change the values and play with the measures as you see fit, also this explains the slight discrepancies in height of characters with the same "height".
Based on these principles, to give an example we can use 2D images. For this lets take these images of a mouse and a cat which are the same scale:
In these the cat looks smaller than the mouse despite the pictures being the same size, but when you need to put them together and to scale you need to increment the cat size a few times(both height and width) before they are in correct scale one with another. Now if you add a dog to the picture
The dog would need to be increased as well, and would end up being a few scales bigger than the cat.
So basically thats it class, hope this explanation is understandable enough about the value.
It could also be that case for the character to be taller and was developed with one of the "height" 13 as a reference like Ridley seems to be. It's difficult to say at this moment without any model for reference, thats why the measure gives a bit of uncertainty.
So like how Ridley was known to be tall so they planned ahead and scaled him shorter or something in the design phase?
My supposition is that Ridley was probably developed with Samus model as a reference, so that they would be in scale with each other with any increase or decrease.
hmm that's interesting, so then the only thing that the number would maybe point to would be who they are trying to scale off of? Like say they know Erdrick should be shorter than Cloud or something like that and scale accordingly?
Number only indicates the number of times the model is scaled, so it wont tell us anything until we have a model or a skeleton. It can mean a few different things like: it can be a character that fits within the same size range as the others, a character that was developed using a character with the same scale as reference, it could be a smaller and chubby character that ended up getting in the scale to fit with the rest of the cast...
Okay I think I get it now, and I see why there is some ambiguity with the number. That said a short and fat character does sound a like Slime lol.
Captain Falcon and Luigi compared.
I can see that happening, with him being a mix of weaponry and magic in the same style that the Belmonts use their whip along with the subweapons.
I doubt that sliding is as huge of a deal as some people make it out to be. It seems to just be a tiny amount of momentum left after they stop running that's barely even noticeable, judging from the video with Brave's stats applied to Ike.
I mean. Fair. But at the same time, how many characters do these stats actually point towards?
That is a good point. I suppose that I don't want to get my hopes for Erdrick too high, though
I think considering just how big of a deal Dragon Quest is in Japan (it would take me at least a few paragraphs to give you the whole scope), plus its impact on the RPG genre as a whole I think makes it worth considering, especially from the perspective of a Japanese perspective.
Especially if they also do a character like Banjo or DoomSlayer who’s more popular in the West than in Japan.
If it's just a play on words, maybe the word isn't actually "Brave" at all. It could easily be ...
There's not enough reason to assume it's going to be an SE character, besides leaks, which people have to be careful about.
I have to wonder then. Is there an actual stat that could give us a direct reference to how tall the character and their default stance is in the game, or do we just have to wait and see with how much actually goes into all of this.Alright explanation for height being a scale value, so please bear the long post. (A lot of these are assumptions, so feel free to correct if you see fit
When you're working with 3D models, in addition to height you have to work with other two dimensions which are width and length (basically an x, y, and a z axis) that at least to my understanding don't appear to be in the data. So when you develop a 3D model your work area is basically a cube with set values, and the height value seems to be the measure they decided to use to scale and determine the characters correct size during the game.
In a game like smash, all the models are worked in a cube of determined dimensions and the character models are developed within the boundaries of the cube. Now working in this area of this set size would leave some interesting results if you compare models directly, small characters end up really big and big characters end up being hilariously small. So when you need to put the characters in game, you need to increase the scale of the bigger characters more than you need to increase the smaller ones so that every character appears on scale.
When you're working in this space restrictions with the addition of width and length, you need to fit characters within the cube. Some characters end up becoming even smaller like Bowser which is also one of the widest and lengthiest characters so you need to increase the scale even more than with other characters of similar size.
Now, there are a few discrepancies with some of the characters height values which ends up making explanations a bit more difficult. Ridley would need to have a higher value than samus and they have the same one, which could potentially mean that he was developed in conjunction to Samus and used an area twice as tall. (This one is practically a supposition).
Why all of this is important, while the character can be Lucas/Ness size it doesn't necessarily mean so. It only indicates that the model has been increased a certain number of times, and it could be an even smaller character that needs to be increased more due to being wide or it could be a bigger character that doesn't need to be scaled as much. This method I'm explaining is relatively easier to develop rather than working with the dimensions directly as you can change the values and play with the measures as you see fit, also this explains the slight discrepancies in height of characters with the same "height".
Based on these principles, to give an example we can use 2D images. For this lets take these images of a mouse and a cat which are the same scale:
In these the cat looks smaller than the mouse despite the pictures being the same size, but when you need to put them together and to scale you need to increment the cat size a few times(both height and width) before they are in correct scale one with another. Now if you add a dog to the picture
The dog would need to be increased as well, and would end up being a few scales bigger than the cat.
So basically thats it class, hope this explanation is understandable enough about the value.
My understanding of the issue is no because that is determined by the character model which we don't have.
