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I'll definitely be getting a new 3DS XL. Wish it came in more color choices though. :/
Wish we had standardNew3DS so we could get faceplates :c

Gonna get the MH one hopefully tho
 

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So, those of you who also play Bowser in Melee, why do you?
I do it for the love of the character. (Plus low tiers are mad hype)
 

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Played, rather than play. I don't think I'll ever touch that thing again, partially because it involves digging my old Wii up and playing with almost broken gamecube pads. Did play though, because mad hype over playable Bowser. Apart from Mario Kart, he wasn't super present on the playable roster of most games, and in the few games where he was he didn't really do very Bowser-like things. Melee was the first time REALLY playing Bowser in his natural habitat. Also screw viability, I play who I find appealing *points at Smash 64 main icon*.
 

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I was hype for the swappable designs, so I feel pretty used right now.

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So, those of you who also play Bowser in Melee, why do you?
I do it for the love of the character. (Plus low tiers are mad hype)
I like vaporizing people with Bowser's FSmash. That prettymuch sums up why I play every character though.
 

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So, you guys plan on getting a new New Nintendo 3DS XL? I think I might wait and get a used New Nintendo 3DS XL. Or possibly a new New Nintendo 2DS.

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I wanted the New 3DS due to the interchangeable faceplates, but the geniuses at NoA have decided not to bring it over. Thanks for nothing, Nintendo. Well... I guess I should be thanking them for saving me $169.99 + tax. :sadeyes:

So, those of you who also play Bowser in Melee, why do you?
I do it for the love of the character. (Plus low tiers are mad hype)
Because villains. Because big. Because powerful. Because Bowser.
 

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So, those of you who also play Bowser in Melee, why do you?
I do it for the love of the character. (Plus low tiers are mad hype)
Bowser is easily the best looking character in the whole game and I love heavyweights. Winning with him feels rewarding too!
 

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I love my Mario & Luigi 3DS XL too much to trade it in/replace it. You can keep your faceplate swaps
 

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Bowser looks great, but I still find myself kind of annoyed at his double jump. For all the re-working they did, they really couldn't give him something that LOOKS like a jump? lmao
 

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Bowser looks great, but I still find myself kind of annoyed at his double jump. For all the re-working they did, they really couldn't give him something that LOOKS like a jump? lmao
It looks like special FX from some really cheap action movie out of the 90s. The "invisible rope on a crane" kind of thing. Easily the worst animation in his entire set, gotta agree on that. Also, I'm kinda missing the spiky back Bair from the older games, the re-use of his dropkick animation feels a bit lazy.
 

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Bowser looks great, but I still find myself kind of annoyed at his double jump. For all the re-working they did, they really couldn't give him something that LOOKS like a jump? lmao
I agree with this, one of my favorite things about the shell spin jump was that even for a moment, it made his hurtbox just a little smaller. It also looked quite a bit cooler than the current second jump.

It looks like special FX from some really cheap action movie out of the 90s. The "invisible rope on a crane" kind of thing. Easily the worst animation in his entire set, gotta agree on that. Also, I'm kinda missing the spiky back Bair from the older games, the re-use of his dropkick animation feels a bit lazy.
I don't mind the drop kick so much, it auto cancels, has good knockback, it's pretty fast, and you can use it for short hopping over hitboxes near the ground that would normally hit his legs. Like the gale boomerang.
 
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I was talking to Jero about that the other day. BAir is cool but I don't like being spot on with things. I need moves with huge range (rip Klaw 2008-2014)
 

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The issue with Bair is that the buffs don't translate into a more useful move.

Yes the speed is buffed. Yes it autocancels. However, you don't approach with this move ever. So that really doesn't make up for the loss of range and priority.

The loss of range on a move can make it really terrible. Look at Klaw. Buffed in nearly every way, but went from being atrociously broken to being useless just because of the range nerf.
 
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I have the hardest time hitting with bair because people see it coming a mile away. I use it more for baits that can be punished when you autocancel it.
 

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It's funny to see how Bowser's competitive gameplan has changed throughout the series.

Melee: Edgeguard them or die, L-Cancel Fair/Bair, Klaw back throw spacies to their doom, FSMASH

Brawl: Klaw disjoint being stupid good, Jab pokes, Koopa Hops, Grab releasing, FSMASH

Smash 4: +7 Jab shenanigans, Lots of Bowser Bombs, Holy crap Dair is a real move now, RAGE ABUSE
 
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Wait, you guys really don't like Bowser's Bair?

That's like, one of the moves I'm most terrified of. It's fast, autocancels, and kills me at like 40 and they can just do it OoS with ease. I can't stand it.

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Wait, you guys really don't like Bowser's Bair?

That's like, one of the moves I'm most terrified of. It's fast, autocancels, and kills me at like 40 and they can just do it OoS with ease. I can't stand it.

:093:
Perhaps the most important buff that any move can get is an opponent's unwillingness to be hit by it.
 

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So...Has anyone here heard of Smash King? Ya' know...that one Animesque Brawl Machinima that stars that great Koopa King? : 3
 

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I haven't watched machinimas since 2008. People still make those things?
 

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I haven't watched machinimas since 2008. People still make those things?
Well, some people, although its very few. Pretty much the only people i see actively making it would be Tigura21, FlipNinten and TheHedgeHogEngine.
 

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@ Camalange Camalange Bair should be feared if the Bowser is aiming to trade with it or monkey around for an early 19%. It's otherwise a "turn and bait" deal. The move has no disjoint and can be stopped safely by most attacks. Bair is so bad it cannot knock away Gordos without getting stabbed for massive damage. Not that it doesn't stop us from trying anyway.

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It's no approach option, but I feel like it can be a really effective punish option, hence your bait idea. So I think using it in that way makes it completely terrifying.

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Good Bowser's will always intimidate players simply by existing because all of our attacks hurt. Kinda like Ganondorf.
 

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I've thought for so long about what kind of "anime" avatar I could use, but I really don't want to give you guys any ideas about the kinds of things I've looked at on the internet. The shame would not be worth the, "ha ha, someone saw that."

Mostly I just wish there was a decent screen cap of Bowser from There Will Be Brawl. I'm fine with the terror that is Kirby, however.
 

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Hello ^ ^ I didn't see a MU thread, so I'll just post this here.

The Zelda boards have started discussing the Bowser MU, and we'd love input from bowser players on it.

:4zelda: < Click me to use Farore's Wind!
 

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Hey Im a strictly bowser main wanting to do teams with two bowsers from PA. Looking for another bowser partner from PA, NY, or NJ to do teams with in tourneys around those areas. My FC is Billiam4125 Bowser ditto me or play me for bowser experience. looking to play people today
 

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It's been a while since I came here, but this is the place where I can meet up with pros who can help me with my Bowser, yes?

I'm hoping to get better at using him in the Wii U version, because I think my gameplay has atrophied over the past couple of weeks. Is there anyone here who could help me out?
 
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It's been a while since I came here, but this is the place where I can meet up with pros who can help me with my Bowser, yes?

I'm hoping to get better at using him in the Wii U version, because I think my gameplay has atrophied over the past couple of weeks. Is there anyone here who could help me out?
You've come to the right place! Let us know what troubles you're running in to, and we'll do our best to help.
 

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I've thought for so long about what kind of "anime" avatar I could use, but I really don't want to give you guys any ideas about the kinds of things I've looked at on the internet. The shame would not be worth the, "ha ha, someone saw that."

Mostly I just wish there was a decent screen cap of Bowser from There Will Be Brawl. I'm fine with the terror that is Kirby, however.
This post inspired me to rewatch that series today. So friggin good, man.
 

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You've come to the right place! Let us know what troubles you're running in to, and we'll do our best to help.
Thanks!

Well, I think my hardest obstacles right now are against these specific characters who I tend to fight frequently: Robin, King Dedede, and Link. I have a hard time dealing with ranged characters who can space my Bowser by spamming projectiles, securing their position on the stage. I know about when to use Bowser's forward-air, and that his whirling fortress is good to use when punishing rolls, but I just can't seem to reach characters with projectiles. What should I do in such a matchup?
 

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Punch the projectiles. Works on anything that isn't a laser. Sheik's dumb bomb thing requires super precision to hit the small thing. I've canceled out the explosion due to intangibility before.

Edit: Well Large class projectiles(Samus Full Charge Shot) will still hit you but small projectiles you can cancel out.

Your other option is to Powershield until they get tired of you.
 
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Thanks!

Well, I think my hardest obstacles right now are against these specific characters who I tend to fight frequently: Robin, King Dedede, and Link. I have a hard time dealing with ranged characters who can space my Bowser by spamming projectiles, securing their position on the stage. I know about when to use Bowser's forward-air, and that his whirling fortress is good to use when punishing rolls, but I just can't seem to reach characters with projectiles. What should I do in such a matchup?
It's really character dependant on how Bowser can deal with projectiles. With Robin you'll want to shield them and ideally play on a stage with platforms or movement so that you're not stuck on a flat plane. Against D3 hitting back his Gordos is a lot handier than shielding. Link you can jab his boomerang and arrows with proper timing but I'd generally just suggest shielding. He can be really annoying.

The best way to improve is to find someone who's strong with a certain character and then play that person as much as possible. I see you live in CA--if that's specifically SoCal, we have those mains! Play Xzax for Robin, Zekey for D3, and Scizor for Link. They all attend tournaments regularly and use other characters too, so just request those characters in particular when you friendly them. :)
 

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Just Jump over the Boomerang if he throws it straight and let it carry you to Link. Just Flame Breath the whole way. Arrows will be destroyed and you toast his pants. If they are inexperienced they will probably kill themselves out of fear.
 
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