MagiusNecros
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Cassius.
you're deadMEAT.
Got 5th at a tournament upstate. Lost to Diddy, typical--and then got janked by mii brawler. 'Tis life.
I'm going to a tournament in Buffalo tomorrow so we'll see how that goes.
Got 3rd in doubles by teaming with someone I never met before in my life.
Sheik with custom villager/bowser. I was somewhat pleased
I'm more mad about my singles performance though. I really hate this game lol
I'm going to a tournament in Buffalo tomorrow so we'll see how that goes.
Got 3rd in doubles by teaming with someone I never met before in my life.
Sheik with custom villager/bowser. I was somewhat pleased
I'm more mad about my singles performance though. I really hate this game lol
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Blobface
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Greetings Koopas!
Despite being a Ganon main, I've decided I'm going to pick up all heavies (Ganon, Dedede, Bowser, DK, and Charizard). What should I know about Bowser? Any Guides I should consult?
Thanks in advance!
Despite being a Ganon main, I've decided I'm going to pick up all heavies (Ganon, Dedede, Bowser, DK, and Charizard). What should I know about Bowser? Any Guides I should consult?
Thanks in advance!
Zapp Branniglenn
Smash Lord
5th place is not bad at all. My highest ever is seventh. And I look forward to beating that placement in the future.
While I don't recommend playing only heavies since they share many bad MUs, Bowser is quite easy to pick up in my opinion. This thread has a lot of spoilers with various info that isn't immediately apparent from just playing Bowser. Now for a quick run down of Bowser's strong options:
- Jab. Just keep calm and jab. The Jab 1 provides enough frame advantage for you to followup with a dash grab, Dtilt, even Bowser Bomb. These followup let you get a ton of damage after successfuly landing Bowser's absolute safest poking move in neutral. Easily Bowser's best attack for how much it gives him.
- Bowser Bomb (Down B). Rising hit comes out on frame 11 and the move clocks a ton of damage. If the opponent shields the rising hit, they better dodge roll away, because the falling hit breaks shields. Use Bowser Bomb as your hard punish tool. It's faster than all your smashes while providing equivocal damage and KO power. And by conditioning your opponent to shield your attacks, you can trap them in a corner with your bomb, and the shield break will send them over the edge to their death.
-Pivot Grab. Pivot Grab.
-Whirling Fortress. Read up on my thread for the Whirling Fortress Boost. The added height lets you go deeper for edgeguards, and Bowser's Fair and Bair are deadly if they connect offstage. While you do get a lot more distance from this move in Smash 4, it doesn't provide a large disjointed hitbox, and is very slow to travel with. Making incoming Dairs difficult to avoid while recovering to the ledge.
- Running Speed and Skid cancels. Bowser runs exceptionally fast forcing a lot of reactionary shields. This running speed helps you close distance immensely in matchups with tons of zoning. Just remember that a run (not a dash) can be cancelled into shield. Down B is also available during a run. As for skid cancels, if you return your control stick to a neutral position after a run, characters go into a skidding stop animation. And Bowser's can be cancelled extremely quickly into other moves. You can use this to stop your run before reaching your opponent, and switch to your poking jab for safety.
Side B. All of Bowser's Side Bs are lagless when you land from the air. With default Side B, it's pretty great. Perform Side B before landing so that you have its grab box come out. Upon landing, you get instant access your shield or jab, which can really catch people offguard trying to combo you low to the ground. If Bowser is tumbling to the ground, you can side B instead of teching the ground like the opponent would expect. And the custom Side Bs make much more use of this lagless feature. Bowser with Dash Slash is an entirely different beast. His other custom moves are not really worth mentioning, but just the Side Bs step up his game enough that the customs meta isn't too difficult for him.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
How many entrants were at your tournament? Glad to see you back at it, bud!
LIQUID12A
Smash Modder
Can Meta Knight recover from a Bowsercide in most cases? I know it sounds kind of silly to ask because of his great recovery but I had a pretty great match against one where he failed to recover on Prism Tower.
MagiusNecros
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Yes but you have to mash jump.
Zapp Branniglenn
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I only know which Wii U stages allow for recovery at all. Remember that it's stage dependent on both versions. Furthermore, even if he could recover, it's not common knowledge for most victims that they have the opportunity in the first place or on which stages.
But yes, Metaknight is very capable of reaching the ledge after being released. After using all his double jumps, his first and third Up specials will take him high enough, or he can use his default Side B and angle it upward.
Cassius.
you're deadMEAT.
I believe 70-ish were at the tournament yesterday, and 25 teams.
Today I went to the tournament in Buffalo and got 2nd, only losing to PikaPika twice--all Bowser again. This one was smaller w/23 entrants, but it was streamed, so the archives will be up soon.
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Koopakid 64
Smash Rookie
can you send a link to your matches? sorry about asking to practice since i didn't end up going to the tournament. but i can still do a match now if any of you want to give me some tips for Bowser.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
I got 9/28 at a local today. Lost to the Diddy who got 3rd and a MK (super super close game 3) who got 4th. I beat Ness, Mario, Yoshi, and Sheik. I swear I always get the Yoshi and Sheik player!
Nothing recorded though.
Nothing recorded though.
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Cassius.
you're deadMEAT.
Koopakid 64
Smash Rookie
Glad to hear about beating sheik. and diddy dont even worry about him now. your match ups sound like you did a fantastic job dude! keep it up! (your lucky you didn't go against a R.O.B.)I got 9/28 at a local today. Lost to the Diddy who got 3rd and a MK (super super close game 3) who got 4th. I beat Ness, Mario, Yoshi, and Sheik. I swear I always get the Yoshi and Sheik player!
Nothing recorded though.
I also have some replays to send you.
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S_B
Too Drunk to Smash
I'm seriously considering switching to Wario as my main, or at least 2nd maining him.
He's stupidly fun to play, and has a number of "the move"s which you're always looking to land because they're just so satisfying to hit with. His recovery is disgustingly good, and farting people into the stratosphere is immensely satisfying. Then there's eating people's projectiles and recovering %, heh...
That said, Bowser's dash slash basically does for him the same thing Wario gets from his bike: agility, a surprise attack and the option to recover high...
I just wish Bowser's kill confirms were a bit easier to get than they currently are...
He's stupidly fun to play, and has a number of "the move"s which you're always looking to land because they're just so satisfying to hit with. His recovery is disgustingly good, and farting people into the stratosphere is immensely satisfying. Then there's eating people's projectiles and recovering %, heh...
That said, Bowser's dash slash basically does for him the same thing Wario gets from his bike: agility, a surprise attack and the option to recover high...
I just wish Bowser's kill confirms were a bit easier to get than they currently are...
Zapp Branniglenn
Smash Lord
It's kind of funny how you could do that in serious matches and the opponent is just like "whelp, can't use that move anymore. No sir." They just mentally delete the projectile attack from their moveset after it gets nullified.
If only Bowser could eat incoming projectiles, but his diet is mostly meat.
To quote the 2nd Bowser's Story game ever made, Super Paper Mario:
"Whoa, whoa, WHOA! I don't fight veggies!"
"Whoa, whoa, WHOA! I don't fight veggies!"
LIQUID12A
Smash Modder
Remember, Bowser mains, there's a very important thing to apply in combat.
Never lose your head.
Never lose your head.
Like this poor chap here:
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Cassius.
you're deadMEAT.
Meat, you say? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Blobface
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We should give every heavy the ability to eat projectiles.
Cassius.
you're deadMEAT.
You know I had to do it, man. The waifu compels me.
Hitman JT
The Infinite One
So, this happened.
Just won a $100 money match against a luigi, for you bowser boards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoUFuFFV5j0
LIQUID12A
Smash Modder
What physics defying madness is this?So, this happened.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
Anyone see Avengers: Age of Ultron yet? IT WAS AMAZING.
LIQUID12A
Smash Modder
Hitman JT
The Infinite One
Pikachu used Quick Attack!
Pikachu's attack missed!
Bowser used I'm Sick of your Bull****!
A critical hit!
It's super effective!
Pikachu fainted!
MrEh
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Gonna go see it later this week when our buddy gets back from Spain. :D
MagiusNecros
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Bowser can apparently say no and clash with quick attack and win?So, this happened.
S_B
Too Drunk to Smash
Awesome matches, though I'm surprised that Luigi didn't Up+B as often as he could have...
Zapp Branniglenn
Smash Lord
Gonna wait at least a few weeks on Ultron. The theaters are bound to be packed, and we need handicap seats for both my brother, and my father who is recovering from a broken leg. Side rant: how do normal moviegoers not know about the handicap row in most theaters? The blue placards may be hard to see in such dark rooms, but you'd think the large, 10 foot gaps within the row would give away the fact that it's designed for wheelchairs to sit next to the seats. It's such a pain to have to ask people politely to sit somewhere else.
Yeah I kept trying to punish the roll reads with bowser bombs. Unfortunately I always forget that Luigi has a hella long roll. Eventually I just decided to fortress punish but in hindsight I should have up or down smashed more.
MagiusNecros
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Going off the first match you should really try aerial dash slash > dtilt.
You become a moving flurry of hitboxes.
You become a moving flurry of hitboxes.
Hitman JT
The Infinite One
It didn't even clash...the back-air bodied him a little after he QA'd from the air to the ground.
Add my NNID if you wanna see the replay for yourself.
Around my way, the movie theaters have you pick your seats in advance when you buy your ticket. If someone's in your spot you just show them your ticket with your seat number and kindly tell them to get the **** out. I plan to see Avengers 2 sometime this weekend, probably Sunday since May-Pac takes priority tomorrow.
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S_B
Too Drunk to Smash
Yeah, and there were a few chances he DEFINITELY had to flaming uppercut you and didn't take them. He seemed to figure it out a bit in the later matches, though, and likely stopped respecting as much.
Saw Avengers. It was a birthday event for a buddy of mine from NorCal who flew down for the weekend, so I had planned ahead of time and bought the tickets the day before via Fandango. 9 peeps. Knocked out a good chunk of a row.
Gotta hand it to Act 3. It had some serious swag.
Gotta hand it to Act 3. It had some serious swag.
There's a trick to the writing that really drove home the paradigm the Avengers will operate on from this point forward. It is only apparent once they introduce Vision.
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2-2
Smash Journeyman
Avengers was pretty cool. When we went to see it, there was a point in the movie where the sound completely cut out.
herpyderpherper
Smash Apprentice
Hulk is so broken imo, i mean he has little start up or endlag on all his moves, even better air mobility and aerials, and all his moves hit like an absolute truck, not to mention he can survive until like 300 with his weight and amazing recovery, he even has a projectile, can anyone think of a good counterpick?