Bowser now has a true infinite! The impaler!

[swordgard]

Me and Kingkong just discovered Bowser had a true infinite, it has some requirements though, but it is a true infinite on every character but DK.

No air release. No extra inch DI. No DI/SDI. Just pure infinite : )


Update : Does not work on MK and kirby!(more testing to be done)

To do this new infinite, you need a wall. You need to run in and grab the character(effectively pushing him against the wall). You then pummel once(can be done without, but still), the character will instantly and always ground release. You then run and regrab. There is a strict timing, if you mess up either your opponent will have time to hit you or you will not have dashed(and thus not do wall pash push, and thus he can air-release and has to be timed). The timing is the same on every single character, but some seem to land behind for some reason, this is the case for MK and Kirby. They will land behind, but you can turn around grab and do the normal grab release on them. Character testing will be done on sunday, vids too. Easy to do since the timing is the same on every single character.

This is called the impaler since it looks like bowser is consistently impaling the guy on the wall and then retracts to restart.

 

[lcampoy8]

Awesome, video please

hopefully this will make him more viable

 

[mofo_]

awesome!!! hopefully it isnt hard to pull off

 

[MrEh]

I assume this has something to do with a grab release. Considering that you only said "no air release" versus "no grab release".

:D

 

[Liquid Gen]

inb4 instant pivot grab

 

[Nitrix]

lol nice. Bowser deserves something like this ^_^

 

[swordgard]

inb4 instant pivot grab

Not : )


Inb415minutesextrawaitforthis

 

[Liquid Gen]

Ok cool that makes me feel a little better.

find an infinite with dsmash next

 

[GooseMainsDiddy]

Not that it matters to me really, but I am really waiting to see what this is like.

 

[Kewkky]

*is waiting for the magical moment*

 

[swordgard]

There, edited.

 

[Liquid Gen]

A wall


gg

 

[Kewkky]

Hey, knowledge is power, man.

I'm still glad I main Kirby. Marshmallows unite, man.

 

[MrEh]

Wall infinites.

poo

 

[Cassius.]

The fact that people actually believed this... <_<

Also lolwalls

 

[Chuee]

Wall infinites ._.
Oh, btw 31 characters have a wall infinite on ness/lucas.

 

[Red Arremer]

Dedede has a wall infinite on every character in the game. <_<

 

[TheMike]

Why this wall infinite doesn't work on DK?

 

[Kewkky]

Cuz he took all the possibilities of infinites on him from the game, and concentrated them all into DDD's infinite, so he gets ****ed harder than everyone else by DDD, but can't get infinited by Bowser.

 

[Chuee]

Why this wall infinite doesn't work on DK?

because it's a GR infinite.
Bowser has 10 frames less than other characters when he grabs another character and releases them. DK has 10 frames less when another character releases him.
So the lag for both of them ends on the same frame.

 

[swordgard]

Dedede has a wall infinite on every character in the game. <_<

What? Not true lmao. Fox? MK? Jiggs? Seriously, this is different from normal grab release near a wall, when you push them into walls, it auto ground breaks, which is really good.

 

[GooseMainsDiddy]

So what legal stages would this work for you guys?

 

[mofo_]

delfino, PS1, RC, Frigate, Pictochat, PS2, Halberd, Norfair, Pirate Ship
though not infinitely just for a while.

 

[GooseMainsDiddy]

Too bad they don't last long. It's sad you guys can't have a legit infinite (that's tourney legal)

 

[mofo_]

i also dont think its an efficient way to rack up damage...cuz it says "pummel once(can be done without, but still)" which makes me think that it does very little damage or possibly none at all rendering it kinda of useless

 

[Flayl]

It looks like you unnecessarily hyped this up, but thanks anyway for contributing.

I usually avoid stages with walls, maybe I'll try them if this isn't too hard to pull off.

 

[TheMike]

Mofo, you can pummel more than once. It will also work.
By the way, Halberd? Where? =0

 

[Hobobloke]

So in tournament settings its impossible to infinite with it anyway.

I missed the "hype" obviously but even I got excited when I saw the title.

 

[Uffe]

****, Vlad Tepes sure turns into some crazy stuff in the gaming world. If nobody got that little joke, I'll be sad.

 

[bobson]

By the way, Halberd? Where? =0

There're small walls on either side where the platform lands on and takes off from the ship. Not really worth noting, but I guess you could use it as a suicide kill when it takes off.

 

[mofo_]

delfino- Shine Gate, building in front of Shine gate, by the boat, by the umbrellas
PS1- rock form, water form?, fire form
RC-the ship, to the right of pendulum platform, just before you have to go down
Frigate- when the vertical moving platform is at its lowest
Pictochat-obvious
PS2-rock form
Halberd-where the platform comes from
Norfair- inside the escape pod
Pirate Ship- when the ship crashes, king of red lions

in theory, you could do it in Castle Siege when it changes from lava to castle walls, just stay on the transformation platform and hopefully go by the wall
also same concept with the the grass pillars in delfino as the platform disappears into the water

do we have to run and grab each time? cant we just pummel, ground release, regrab?

 

[swordgard]

delfino- Shine Gate, building in front of Shine gate, by the boat, by the umbrellas
PS1- rock form, water form?, fire form
RC-the ship, to the right of pendulum platform, just before you have to go down
Frigate- when the vertical moving platform is at its lowest
Pictochat-obvious
PS2-rock form
Halberd-where the platform comes from
Norfair- inside the escape pod
Pirate Ship- when the ship crashes, king of red lions

in theory, you could do it in Castle Siege when it changes from lava to castle walls, just stay on the transformation platform and hopefully go by the wall
also same concept with the the grass pillars in delfino as the platform disappears into the water

do we have to run and grab each time? cant we just pummel, ground release, regrab?

No, this is the whole point. You can air release if you pummel >.>. They can ALWAYS air release if they want if you pummel, its easy to time. You need to push them in. But it allows you most often not to infinite to death but rather to infinite in order to either bowsercide at the end, or if the stage is going up to infinite until you both die. In the case of RC, on the boat you can infinite until they die and you can still make it back.

 

[mofo_]

okay i get it, kinda hard to do

 

[swordgard]

okay i get it, kinda hard to do

You have 1 timing for the whole cast, no johns. Easy to learn too.

 

[Kewkky]

Heh swordgard, you could also do it like you said on the wall of the ship in RC, then when you're as low as you can go (before you both die), jab 'em (once or twice, depends on the player... I'd jab once so I can follow up with something else as they try to jump towards the stage), then jump backwards and fair as soon as you do for some nice extra damage, as well as knocking them back farther away. If they don't have sexy recoveries, they're probably gonna die while you recover with your second jump and upB.

 

[KingKong_ad]

this can be done against every character except Bowser,DK,MK,kirby and Ivysaur.

when bowser grounds breaks and the opponent keep his joystick in the opposite direction, bowser will go behind you since he is so huge.

we cannot on dk since we dont have 10 frames advantage and he is so huge that he does like bowser

when mk ground breaks, he does a litte step in front of him, since he ground break directly in front of you, but during his ground break he will do his little step to go behind bowser same for ivysaur. (they still have to keep their joystick in the opposite direction)

for kirby I just dont know why lol but he goes behind bowser

Im gonna see swordgard wednesday so we will be able to make the video.

I praticed the timing and it is really not that hard honestly...

 

[B!squick]

Couldn't you just follow up with Firebreath and say gg to a spacie?

 

[KingKong_ad]

with fire into a wall, the spacie can SDI and you cannot kill him

with the infinte, the spacie wont be able to escape it and u can follow up with a fresh sideb\UpB to kill

 

[B!squick]

Still waiting on a vid I see. v_v

 

[Hobobloke]

So it's only use is as a suicide tactic...