Bowser, Grab release thread [Flayl is a boss]

[Uncle]

Ah, I understand now. Thanks.

 

[-LzR-]

Just want to tell that buffering ftilt is easy. Press right or left, release and when it's neutral, press A. You just buffered a ftilt. No need to chance controls. It's damn easy.

 

[Cassius.]

thanks man.

 

[Flayl]

Just want to tell that buffering ftilt is easy. Press right or left, release and when it's neutral, press A. You just buffered a ftilt. No need to chance controls. It's damn easy.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11618680&postcount=384

 

[SupaSairentoZ7℠]

I appreciate all the grab release tactics with Bowser. I enjoy using good ole King Koopa and when I grab players and pummel them I usually end up using Fthrow or Bthrow.

 

[Flayl]

I just discovered we have a guaranteed run offstage UAir against Squirtle

Expect to see a new thread sometime this week.

 

[Zigsta]

I just discovered we have a guaranteed run offstage UAir against Squirtle

Expect to see a new thread sometime this week.

Yet another reason Bowser crushes PT.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Good stuff flayl!

 

[MrEh]

Wonder if it works on anyone else.

 

[bigman40]

Have you looked about grab releases over the ledge? When you jump from the ledge, you have no jump squat lag and you instantly do a full hop. Might help out for your options.

 

[Zigsta]

Wonder if it works on anyone else.

I'm not sure, but I do know Squirtle in particular is susceptible to runoff GR options when he's released offstage. Wario has guaranteed runoff Waft.

 

[Uncle]

Does Trainer's GR woes ever end?
.
I shouldn't be laughing, because I like Trainer (especially Charizard), but this stuff I'm hearing is brutal hilarity.

 

[Zigsta]

Does Trainer's GR woes ever end?
.
I shouldn't be laughing, because I like Trainer (especially Charizard), but this stuff I'm hearing is brutal hilarity.

It's largely Squirtle who gets wrecked. Fortunately he's the hardest of the three to grab.

But even so, YOWCH.

 

[Flayl]

Have you looked about grab releases over the ledge? When you jump from the ledge, you have no jump squat lag and you instantly do a full hop. Might help out for your options.

I don't really understand how you do that? I've been testing releases over the edge, and that's never occured. On another note I don't think full hops would ever give us a position we can use, but we'll see.

MrEh: It works on a specific position for Meta Knight, but it's so specific it's useless. I'll try to get some screens on where you can do it. For now I haven't found anybody else it works on.

Speaking of Charizard, he's the only character in the game Bowser can UTilt out of release on a slope (30º).

Speaking of slopes, Bowser should never pummel Bowser, Donkey Kong or Yoshi on 30º+ slopes, they will get released immediately.

 

[bigman40]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eFk0yzax-g&t=0m15s

Yoshi doesn't have any jump squat frames when you're just over the ledge. This happens for every character. You have to just step off the ledge, then jump right afterwards.

If you need a better look at it, then start the timer at :49 secs.

 

[Zigsta]

Speaking of Charizard, he's the only character in the game Bowser can UTilt out of release on a slope (30º).

Nice!

Does it matter which side of the slope Charizard is being released on, ie the up or down part?

 

[Hobobloke]

I assume it would need to be the up part.

 

[Flayl]

Yeah he needs to be released upwards from you.

 

[Zigsta]

Yeah he needs to be released upwards from you.

Cool, just making sure.

 

[Flayl]

Just for the record, Bowser can edge cancel full jump during the first three frames airborne. Probably holds true for all characters but I'm not testing. Haven't found a use for it yet though.

I'm not sure how to put the following in a chart (probably should just put firebreath?):

If you air-release Link offstage (by having his feet dangle over the ledge for example), firebreath immediately and aim slightly up, it'll eat his double jump and force him to UpB, but only if he tries to double jump immediately. If he's forced to UpB, you can edgehog or FTilt etc. depending on his SDI against firebreath and how he chooses to UpB.

If he doesn't double jump immediately, you can react to his low height and edgehog his UpB.

Other than that nothing is guaranteed against him offstage, but Run-off DJ Fair comes pretty close and will probably work anyway.

 

[Phiddlesticks]

Speaking of Charizard, he's the only character in the game Bowser can UTilt out of release on a slope (30º).

Speaking of slopes, Bowser should never pummel Bowser, Donkey Kong or Yoshi on 30º+ slopes, they will get released immediately.

so like, am i gonna have to start bringing a protractor to tournaments now?

 

[Flayl]

Any slope in the usual stagelists will do except for Halberd and some on Delfino

 

[Phiddlesticks]

dont worry i was just kidding

real mathletes dont need a protractor when they have the mighty cosine law

 

[Flayl]

I was proactively responding to "what slopes meet that requirement" because I have psychic powers

edit: Neat title

 

[B!squick]

EDIT: Joke didn't work. Delete this please someone.