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Elincia is more important than the Black Knight, in fact she is the most important character in Path of Radiance. I mean if you think the Black Knight is more important than she is to the storyline, I guess you can't read at all. Not being a viable combat unit(In your eyes) has nothing to do with how important she is to the storyline.
No. She is less import- gah., whatever. I'm an idiot. okaaaay.... let me rephrase that......
The Black Knight is just there as the sub-antagonist, Ike is the only one who really wants to kick his butt, while others doesn't seem to find interest on doing that.
...Black Knight for boss.
Not so, I never heard of Marth or Roy till Melee and then slowly I learned of the Fire Emblem gaming series. Remember, we have no idea what the Japanese fans think of the Black Knight. For all we know, the Black Knight is a major hit over there. I personally feel the same as you. The Black Knight is an amazing look character and could be tremendous in Brawl. But just because they aren't huge in the U.S. hasn't stopped characters from appearing.
Yes, that's why we have no idea that Sigurd is the most popular lord in Japan....oh wait. If the Black Knight was immensely popular in Japan, we would have known about it. As for his looks? So what?
lol, Karel > Karla D:
That's funny, really did you work on that by yourself, or did you have help?
Yay, I just love sarcasm. I wasn't just making my statement to you in particular but to many people who want the Black Knight in Brawl because he's "awesome" or "cool" purely subjective aspects that should never be taken into consideration; that is why I made the Lucia and Karla comment.
Who doesn't love sarcasm? I think it should be considered for a foreign or second language for high school and undergrad students. I'll start that thread tomorrow after I finish the "BK is so bad@$$ he should be in Brawl" thread.
One of the only ones, yes, due to the low number of recurring characters in the series. But not the only one. Garnef the dark Priest was in both of Marth's games (and will surely be in the upcoming Fire Emblem DS), and the main villain of Radiant Dawn was in Path of Radiance as well (won't give his name - spoiler). The Dark Dragon Medeus from Marth's games also had the ability to possess humans, so its conceivable (albeit insanely unlikely) he could appear in a human form. Consider also that the Black Knight, though a recurring character, wasn't even the main villain in either of his games, but a secondary, sub-plot one.
Pretty much the last, and some people being convinced that hes more important than he really is, or that being a villain is a plus for him, or that Fire Emblem 9/10 will be focused on exclusively in Brawl for some reason. There seems to be a lot of mistaken information and impressions about him around.
I'd like to see only swords in Brawl, but a variation wouldn't hurt... much (heh, kidding).
Yeah, because I thought he was a real major character and it turns out he's more so, for lack of a better term, glorified henchmen. Don't get me wrong, I'll hang on to a thread of hope, but now I understand why a guy like Hector or Marth or even Roy has a better shot than the Black Knight.
Good call on the armor. Totally didn't think of how difficult it would be to launch a guy around with that much weight to him.
Maybe he will have stamina? Or did you forgot Ike's strenght? That's why Ike should only face him (and other Fire Emblem based reasons).
On the other hand, Ganondorf can only be harmed/rendered vulnerable by the Light Arrows in many Zelda games, yet he was in Melee and will surely be in Brawl. I agree with you, just making a point.
Hes a bit more than a glorified henchman - although he does play second banana to Ashnard and the Radiant Dawn villain, he is a unique individual, the most important and powerful of the four Riders (high generals) of Daein in PoR, and in RD still a very high-ranking individual under his master. His armor and weapons were blessed by a Goddess, he was trained by perhaps the best swordsman ever to live in his world, and he possesses a special magical powder that gives him the ability to teleport. Hes certainly the second most important villain in his games; just not the real top dog.raul said:
I'm actually diggin' this Hector fella (in a non-sexual manner). Looks pretty bad-***, could be strong with decent speed.
Now that's what I call a back story. The more I learn about this BK character, the more I like him. Kind of reminds of the main ring wraith from the The Lord of the Rings--The Return of the King...don't kill me for that.
Thanks for reminding me that, but I have a thought of why Ganondorf is vulnerable in Melee... maybe because he didn't summon dark magic and such to become invulnerable? I don't play Zelda much, I just played OoT and Majora's Mask, but it's what I think.
Yeah, I know, if Roy doesn't makes it in Brawl, I just want Hector to be instead of him, I think he's pretty cool too.
Oh, I won't - I'm a huge LotR fan/geek myself
. His back story depth is certainly comparable to the Ring Wraiths', and could be considered better than those of any but perhaps the Witch-King, since he was the only one with great detail in it. The Black Knight is certainly a good character, and I too like him. Hes just not likely to be playable in Brawl.If not the BK, what do you think about the chances of Hector?Oh, I won't - I'm a huge LotR fan/geek myself
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From what I've seen...the only magical powers the Black Knight posesses is in the form of his warp powder, and using such powder drains the Black Knight's strength considerably. If Ike did have a showdown with the Black Knight in the Sub-space mode, he could use the powder to warp around the stage a bit, though not often.
It'd be nice, but I wouldn't bet too highly on it. Although he has some American/international support, hes not half as popular in Japan as he is elsewhere, and outside of that has nothing to recommend him. You can also look at the fate of Lyn, who had more international support than he does.
Agreed and likewise. The Silmarillion is one of my personal favorite books ever - the depth of the story Tolkien imagined for his world is just incredible.raul said:
Aside of Sigurd being the most popular Lord... he is the strongest Lord. And according to a few Smash Info pages, Sakurai liked Sigurd. That is enough I say.
Ahh, so we'd have a couple of hacks and slashes, then a disappearing act leads to a sneak attack, etc. etc. Oh I like it. I like it alot.
I would add Micaiah to that list of characters. She is the star of the newest Fire Emblem, the Radiant Dawn and she uses "light magic". Being as unique as she is I think she would add a refreshing spin on the brawl roster.
Oh good call, I forgot Micaiah...probably because I can't spell her name if my life dependent on it. I think she would be an awesome fit to Brawl because she is a mage so she is unqiue when you compare her to Marth and Roy and Ike and so forth.
since this is a BK support thread, I won't begin to go into all that's wrong with BK because I'll only get flamed and nobody would care.
