Black Knight for Brawl (SPOILERS AHEAD)

[Ridley FTB!!!]

he could.
i never played any FE game sbut his speacil moves could consist of different weapons.
up b:swoops upwards with a lance.
b:swings a massive great sword.
across b:rises an axe above his head,charges then crashes it towards the ground in front of him.if used in the air a horizontal swipe is made.
down bovers shelf with a sheild.when uses BK cannot be picked up.sheild will shater after a while if hit many times.the shiel works as a normal sheild.when shatered BK must loss a life to ain it back.
B.simple swings a flai above hiss head.hitting oponents why are above him or smacking large characters

possible

 

[Pieman0920]

Head = Do I really need to say? Well if you cant see whats right in front of you, of course I do!. BK: He has a fantasy designed full helm which i spiky and medi-evil. G-dorf: He has a hair band.

Shoulders and neck = BK: Has massive fantasy themed shoulder pads which have two different pieces one on top of the other and he has the red cape around his neck. G-Dorf: He has a few tiny sheets of plate which just about cover the whole of his shoulder and on his neck all he has is that piece of paper or something.

Arms: BK: Has plates on the top of his arms but none beneath them he has that thing going over his hand also. G-Dorf: He has several plates covering just one half of his arm and they are stacked on top of each other slightly... he also has the thing over his hand like BK except its coming from under the plates.

Capes: BK: Has a long rugged red cape which doesn't have a defined shape and is held together by his shoulder pads most likely. G-Dorf: Has a very defined rectangular brown (Possibly red) cape which is... well... suitable for a King (Of which he is).

Legs and feet: BK: Has plates covering his knee's and also has plates which go around the side of his leg and in front of it... he also has some sort of cloth thing around them as well, while he has small buckler shoes. G-Dorf: He basically just wears fancy trousers with some sort of decorative piece around his waist coming down from behind him, and he wears lightly armored long boots.

Their Torso!: BK: He has a very finely crafted plat mail which cover his entire body and events fits under his shoulder pads and leg thing. G-Dorf: He has one plate coming down which just covers part of his torso and leaves the rest very vulnerable... and it looks very light.

Weapons: BK: He has a mighty legendary sword with a very long handle resembling a cross... its blade is made of an actual metal! and has a shape similar to Ganondorfs old sword... albeit much less wide (He can also use some lances and other general related weapons... as well as a few magic things like tel-powder). G-Dorf: He has a blade made of light energy... nuff said. His other weapons including dark magic and very strong physical punches and kicks. (Possibly a trident if he has a certain FS).

Design of armor: BK: He has a very dark (Slightly purpley) armor with bright white trimming and a certain worn effect to it. G-Dorf: Has quite light dark colour.... resembling iron the most,with Golden lining and intricate patterns and designs over them.

Seriously what I just said is all fact and it clearly shows how different they are...

But it's all very minor in contrast to the fact that they still share all those things. The head though is of course a given. Other things do have their differencecs, but the fact that they still have them, and that they are still simmilar out weights these facts. (Along with insignificant things like Ganny's sword being made of light as opposed to metal)

Still, the reason I wonder if you are a Black Knight fan or not, is how you claim to want to have characters like Ridley in their traditional color of purple, but go so far as to say BK should have lances and even other weapons. It's the Black Knight though, and he doesn't need or use those things. Only someone who's hacked into the game can use those lances (and not axes, seeing as he's not that type of general) and you will never see him using them himself. (Though this is mostly due to the fact that he can shoot sword beams)

 

[Hydde]

I would only accept BK in the game if he uses a lance! it would be cooler

More swordmans for the NAY!

 

[Legolastom]

But it's all very minor in contrast to the fact that they still share all those things. The head though is of course a given. Other things do have their differencecs, but the fact that they still have them, and that they are still simmilar out weights these facts. (Along with insignificant things like Ganny's sword being made of light as opposed to metal)

Still, the reason I wonder if you are a Black Knight fan or not, is how you claim to want to have characters like Ridley in their traditional color of purple, but go so far as to say BK should have lances and even other weapons. It's the Black Knight though, and he doesn't need or use those things. Only someone who's hacked into the game can use those lances (and not axes, seeing as he's not that type of general) and you will never see him using them himself. (Though this is mostly due to the fact that he can shoot sword beams)

What the fact that they both have torso's and arms?

Anyways being a BK fan is the fact that you are a fan of him... it might be because you were previously a fan of generals and you might think that BK is your favorite general. Anyways he could have different attacks but I don't want all the FE swordsman (And woman) just to have sword attacks... why not have diversity? It's easy to implement and there is an actual reason for it to be in his move set.

 

[GenG]

If the Black Knight were in Brawl...

And you changed his color in the selection screen...

He won't be the "Black" Knight anymore!

 

[Shuma]

Or it could change the color of his cape...

Aniway, when you play as the Black knight you can use lances. Also, the armor argument is incredibly stupid, teh noes, Mario and luigi use the EXACT SAME kind of clothers, Luigi deconfirmed.

 

[Legolastom]

Actually the armor argument has become less of an argument against him and more of just a personal dispute... But seriously their armor is completely different.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

who needs armour.
GROOVY NAKED STREAKIN TIME WOOO!!!!!!

edit-no im not gay

 

[Pieman0920]

You really don't get it Lego, and you're the only one who's not. Stop arguing and accept that despite minor differences, that they do look alike. e_e

And if you want variety, choose a character that doesn't look like another, and should play like another established one. Go for Micaiah, who'd at least have the pottential to be different.

Oh and Ridley FTB. You're super secretive secret is secret with us. :O

 

[Kirby knight]

I really don't know why this is still be argued about. Both the Black Knight and Ganon do look similar; I don't know how anyone can deny that. In all honestly the Black Knight really doesn't bring much to the table. Micaiah is so much more unique.

-Knight

 

[Legolastom]

: O Please tell me again how they are similar i just explained to you detailing all the different parts of their body telling you how they are different.

Seriously WHAT THE ****! BK is fully plated all over his body while G-Dorf has a few plates here and their while just wearing normal cloths most of the time.

 

[Shuma]

God you must be blind to think they look similar... first than all Ganondorf doesn't use FULL body armor, it's more like a ceremonial/king armor, the Black Knight uses Knight armor, besides both using armor they don't look similar at all.

 

[Pieman0920]

They also have red capes and giant swords. The fact that if you don't include these things, the only part left is their heads. Yes, their heads don't look a thing alike, but since the other 85% of their bodies do, it's a problem. Brawl shouldn't repeat itself to such a extent, especially to compensate for character that doesn't matter that much. =/

 

[Shuma]

Ganondorf has a wannabe lightsaber... Mr. BK has just a big sword, Ganon's cape is rectangular and elegant and it's just Red, BK's cape is old, ugly, black and red.

And how is it a problem if they look alike, by that logic we would've to cut the roster in half 'cause Luigi and Mario use the same clothing and both Peach and Zelda use a pink dress.

Edit:

Besides, the Black Knight is Ike's yang, his voldemort, his Ridley, his Darth Vader(almost). I say that alone gives him a good chance to get in.

 

[Pieman0920]

...They are both swords, and they are both capes. Now you're just looking into it to much.

And at least Mario and Luigi had different colors, and Peach and Zelda didn't have fighting styles that other characters have.

Lots of characters won't get their rivals, you should know that. Do you really think we'll get Black Shadow, Wolf, K. Rool, and all these other character's "yangs?" The only way you can get a good chance to be in this game is if you have the status or the potential. BK doesn't have either. (Heck, most of the characters I mentioned over there have more of both)

 

[Shuma]

Black Shadow and Wolf have a chance, i dunno about K. Rool.

Ok so let me try to understand you... it's perfectly fine that Mario and Luigi wear the EXACT SAME clothing and FIGHT THE EXACT SAME WAY, but it's ok as long as the clothes are of a diferent color.

Yet is attrocious to add the BK because he uses black armor and it's diferent? you're just biased against him.

 

[Legolastom]

...They are both swords, and they are both capes. Now you're just looking into it to much.

And at least Mario and Luigi had different colors, and Peach and Zelda didn't have fighting styles that other characters have.

Lots of characters won't get their rivals, you should know that. Do you really think we'll get Black Shadow, Wolf, K. Rool, and all these other character's "yangs?" The only way you can get a good chance to be in this game is if you have the status or the potential. BK doesn't have either. (Heck, most of the characters I mentioned over there have more of both)

So according to you Ganondorf is similar to Marth now? Because "They both have swords, they both have caps" but according to you he is more similar to Roy because they both have plate armor.... which as a matter of fact is true because Roy's resembles G-Dorfs more than BK's and apart from colour (Because it isn't as dark).

 

[Kirby knight]

: O Please tell me again how they are similar i just explained to you detailing all the different parts of their body telling you how they are different.

Seriously WHAT THE ****! BK is fully plated all over his body while G-Dorf has a few plates here and their while just wearing normal cloths most of the time.

God you must be blind to think they look similar... first than all Ganondorf doesn't use FULL body armor, it's more like a ceremonial/king armor, the Black Knight uses Knight armor, besides both using armor they don't look similar at all.

Not really I just think your in denial. To say the Black Knight and Ganondorf share no similar qualitys; I think you'd have to be blind yourself.

That's not even the main problem, and I have no idea why your still so adamant on arguing it. I have yet to see any good arguments on why a Black Knight additon would be great for the Brawl roaster.

If the Black Knight was added instead of a important Fire Emblem character I'd be quite disgusted to be honest; thankfully that's not at all likely to happen.

Please Sakurai put the Black Knight up as a sub-space boss and end this.

-Knight

 

[Legolastom]

As an important character like who Michiah!?

(Or whatever her name is)

Anyways of course they share some similarities... for example.

1. They have capes.
2. They wear armor.
3. They have swords.
4. They have dark colours on their armor (Albeit different shades of black).

 

[Kirby knight]

As an important character like who Michiah!?

Yes, Micaiah is more important than the Black Knight in the timeline of PoR to RD. She would be a nice refreshing addtion to the Fire Emblem roaster. The Black Knight doesn't really anything over her.

So he's a villain? Wow, he's not even the main one in both of the games. He's Ike's personal rival? Oh my I guess Waluigi should be added to the Mario roaster to be Luigi's rival instead of other more important Mario characters.

Micaiah would be a better addtion to the Brawl roaster than the Black Knight ever could.

-Knight

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

who..cares its just skin.the character design is not even close.come on it really isnt that important.just be happy with the though of mTP ganondorf and Bk in brawl.ffomgs

 

[raphtmarqui]

He's Ike's personal rival? Oh my I guess Waluigi should be added to the Mario roaster to be Luigi's rival instead of other more important Mario characters.

Well Metaknight is Kirby's rival and he's in before Dedede so...

 

[Pieman0920]

You think Black Shadow has a chance Shuma? I know Wolf does, but there's no way BS is getting in. o_o

And for Luigi and Mario, who don't fight in the exact same way, it's actually a yes. They are Mario and Luigi, the Super Mario Brothers. They can get away with that. They are expected to be similar also. They can bypass it all with status. Do you think Ike and BK have that level of status going for them?

Really Lego, if you think that armor looks more like Roy's then you really are getting blinder. To add to that, you keep on disregarding the other points which add on to that. Having big builds with black armor with flowing red capes of a medieval fashion, while at the same time toting around giant mystic swords each on their own isn't a problem but when both are combined it is.

And Micaiah is indeed more important, not to mention more unique and financially a better choice, so yes, she really should take precedence over BK.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

rildey is samuses rival.

 

[Legolastom]

Yes, Micaiah is more important than the Black Knight in the timeline of PoR to RD. She would be a nice refreshing addtion to the Fire Emblem roaster. The Black Knight doesn't really anything over her.

So he's a villain? Wow, he's not even the main one in both of the games. He's Ike's personal rival? Oh my I guess Waluigi should be added to the Mario roaster to be Luigi's rival instead of other more important Mario characters.

Micaiah would be a better addtion to the Brawl roaster than the Black Knight ever could.

-Knight

Yes, Black Knight is more important than the Micaiah in the timeline of PoR to RD. He would be a nice refreshing addtion to the roaster. The Micaiah doesn't really anything over him.

So she' a unique? Wow she isnt even the central focus in the entire game.So she uses Magic? I guess mallow should be added to the Mario roster instead of more important Mario characters.

Black Knight would be a better addition to the Brawl roaster than Micaiah ever could.

 

[Kirby knight]

Well Metaknight is Kirby's rival and he's in before Dedede so...

Please don't tell me your implying that King Dedede isn't going to be in Brawl. Sure Metaknight was "revealed" before King Dedede, but anyone who doubts King Dedede's inclusion is insane. I really hope you weren't implying that in your statement.

Yes, Black Knight is more important than the Micaiah in the timeline of PoR to RD. He would be a nice refreshing addtion to the roaster. The Micaiah doesn't really anything over him.

So she' a unique? Wow she isnt even the central focus in the entire game.So she uses Magic? I guess mallow should be added to the Mario roster instead of more important Mario characters.

Black Knight would be a better addition to the Brawl roaster than Micaiah ever could.

-Knight

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

That would be weird if DeDeDe wasn't in Brawl as a pc....Thats like making the Earth crash into say Pluto.

 

[Pieman0920]

Yes, Black Knight is more important than the Micaiah in the timeline of PoR to RD. He would be a nice refreshing addtion to the roaster. The Micaiah doesn't really anything over him.

So she' a unique? Wow she isnt even the central focus in the entire game.So she uses Magic? I guess mallow should be added to the Mario roster instead of more important Mario characters.

Black Knight would be a better addition to the Brawl roaster than Micaiah ever could.

More important? Lawl. More refreshing? Double Lawl.

She is the central focus, even when you're not playing as her, actually.

Spoiler

She technically becomes Ike's adversary for a good chunk of it all. <_<

Third party character, lol.

 

[raphtmarqui]

Please don't tell me your implying that King Dedede isn't going to be in Brawl. Sure Metaknight was "revealed" before King Dedede, but anyone who doubts King Dedede's inclusion is insane. I really hope you weren't implying that in your statement.

Of course i wasn't saying that Dedede wont be in Brawl. If anything he has more chance than anybody. I was just saying that Rival characters have some priority too, hence Metaknight.

 

[Legolastom]

Well if she is third party then there is no chance of her getting in. End of discussion.

So... i heard you leik Mudkips?

 

[Kirby knight]

Well if she is third party then there is no chance of her getting in. End of discussion.

So... i heard you leik Mudkips?

Yay, joke post he was obviously making a refrence to Mallow

-Knight

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ88wg_WexU
I laughed so hard at this.

 

[Shuma]

Dear god, this thread makes me whant to poke my eyes out. So i'm just going to say why i think Bull**** has a chance.

He's the main villain from the F-zero franchise, Falcon's adversary, etc etc. I don't like him, but with goroh deconfirmed, if the F-zero franchise gets a new char, i think it will be him.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

homerun bat mode has now gotten a lot easyier.just keep smash attacking to the left and bam that is.

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

It would be OK for Black Knight to come in, but I feel that there are better choices out there.

 

[Pieman0920]

Dear god, this thread makes me whant to poke my eyes out. So i'm just going to say why i think Bull**** has a chance.

He's the main villain from the F-zero franchise, Falcon's adversary, etc etc. I don't like him, but with goroh deconfirmed, if the F-zero franchise gets a new char, i think it will be him.

Black Shadow actually isn't the main villain. You might be able to sneak by that in F-Zero X he was the main villain, though he didn't do anything villain-tastic in the actualy game itself. By GX it was Deathborne who got the lead (and actually has powers unlike BS) And while it may be unfortunate that F-Zero only get one character, there was no other character that deserved it, and it'd be much better if someone who actually mattered got the spot even if it was in a different franchise. =/

But I digress, this is off topic.

 

[NukeA6]

rildey is samuses rival.

Wrong. They're arch-enemies. The closest rivals to Samus are the Hunters.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

Wrong. They're arch-enemies. The closest rivals to Samus are the Hunters.

someone had to correct me.

 

[Shuma]

I'm pretty sure Dark Samus is was the Rival.

 

[Ridley FTB!!!]

argh corrections its to painful for me to bear.gah..im melting...badly