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Black Knight for Brawl (SPOILERS AHEAD)

GenG

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You do know that BKs Luna activation rate is 30%, and Aethers is 26% at best. ;)

Meh, that fight is just about luck anyway.
Yes I know the skills activate with "Skill", but what happened me was simply absurd, since BK and Ike have similar Skill.

I beated him some hours ago anyway. When I saw the second blue glow I started the moonwalk of joy.
 

IllidR

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Yes I know the skills activate with "Skill", but what happened me was simply absurd, since BK and Ike have similar Skill.

I beated him some hours ago anyway. When I saw the second blue glow I started the moonwalk of joy.

You beat the Black Knight?!?! But..but.. That's IMPOSSIBLE!

Black Knight for Brawl!
 

Legolastom

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He would be kind of lame, knowing that the game where you find out who he really is comes out like a month before this one.
(Psssst the game where we found out who jumpman really was came out 22 years before this one!)
 

Hong

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Even so, I still don't get how that would be lame? I doubt that in Brawl he would ever reveal his true identity. Sakurai wouldn't give that big of a spoiler.

Even if it was years later, Sheik being Zelda is a much bigger spoiler than Black Knight being
Zelgius
. :p
 

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I fully support this thread. Lunadis, that's a great moveset for him too. And since Lyn has gone down the drain..why not Sakurai, why not? He's made two appearances so far, in Path of Radiance, and Radiant/Goddess of Dawn. And Ike is in both, so maybe he's going to be Ike's "partner" character?
 

Kirby knight

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I fully support this thread. Lunadis, that's a great moveset for him too. And since Lyn has gone down the drain..why not Sakurai, why not? He's made two appearances so far, in Path of Radiance, and Radiant/Goddess of Dawn. And Ike is in both, so maybe he's going to be Ike's "partner" character?
Maybe; however the Black Knight has to get over the huge hurdel to make it in. That hurdel is Mikaya.

-Knight
 

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An odd part of me wants Black Knight back not just for the character, but that cold menacing theme song that accompanies his presence. If I'm in the mood, perhaps I'll remix it for a stage song or victory theme.
 

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Even if it was years later, Sheik being Zelda is a much bigger spoiler than Black Knight being
Zelgius
. :p
Hmmm, i forgot about that. I guess it's the time difference that made it not such a big deal.

Lunadis said:
An odd part of me wants Black Knight back not just for the character, but that cold menacing theme song that accompanies his presence. If I'm in the mood, perhaps I'll remix it for a stage song or victory theme.
Oooh, that'd be amazing if you did that! Though no pressure from me, just if you had time.

BLACK KNIGHT FOR BRAWL!
 

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An odd part of me wants Black Knight back not just for the character, but that cold menacing theme song that accompanies his presence. If I'm in the mood, perhaps I'll remix it for a stage song or victory theme.
I already decided Black Knight's victory theme is "NONE SHALL PASS!!!!!!".
 

The Subspace Muffin

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I too want to see Black Knight in Brawl! And, yes, if only for his theme song...

...And, by the way, I want to kill myself. Why? Because I found out who the Black Knight really is. Don't worry, it wasn't anyone in this thread, I read it somewhere else. But, poop, it really stinks to have that spoiled. I wish I could get that memory erased... I really do. I would've loved to be shocked. After all, it is pretty shocking... Brom?

I think something unique about the Black Knight would be that he could be incredibly strong, and still pretty quick... wasn't there something in PoR about how he could move as if he wasn't wearing any armor since it was magical?

I've gotta find a BR picture for my sig... :)
 

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I think something unique about the Black Knight would be that he could be incredibly strong, and still pretty quick... wasn't there something in PoR about how he could move as if he wasn't wearing any armor since it was magical?
And Samus is supposed to move while being able to fire missiles as fast as she wants at any angle, but you don't see that happening now do you? :p

xD It's a valid point, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvfhL1BfByA

I figure he'd run a bit faster than Ganondorf did in melee. Though all of his attacks except for a few would have to be slow as a balancing act. And yeah, obviously he'd have a hard time getting off the ground. :p
 

Legolastom

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Darth Vader will loose quite hard...
He has the force and laser sword,laser gun and other stuff.
And if you ment in a SSB fight, Darth will never be in SSB.
...>_>...<_<.... wow ... >_>...<_<...


Anyway enough about the weirdo person: So i would imagine BK to be really slow... thats how i want him... anyways what do you think the lag on his moves will be like?
 

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...>_>...<_<.... wow ... >_>...<_<...


Anyway enough about the weirdo person: So i would imagine BK to be really slow... thats how i want him... anyways what do you think the lag on his moves will be like?
if he'll swing his sword, maybe he backs it up a bit or somethin...
 

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I just watched Jeff Dunham: Spark of Insanity on YouTube. I get to the part where he brings Achmed out and he makes a comment about how Achmed is dead and how he is just bones. Achmed denies this and says "Is only a flesh wound." I just started cracking up at the Black Knight reference and had to post here.
 

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...>_>...<_<.... wow ... >_>...<_<...


Anyway enough about the weirdo person: So i would imagine BK to be really slow... thats how i want him... anyways what do you think the lag on his moves will be like?

I don't imagine him as slow as some of his attacks would be, with some faster attacks to control faster characters.
 

Oldskool

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It doesn't matter much anyway, 2-3 FE characters from the same games (radiant series) isn't going to happen anyway.
 

IllidR

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It doesn't matter much anyway, 2-3 FE characters from the same games (radiant series) isn't going to happen anyway.
Cause you said so, so it is right? No.

Anything could happen, Sakurai could decide he wants to implement a villain from Fire Emblem and Black Knight being one of the more popular Fire Emblem characters, and not a main boss, who appears in multiple games could make an appearance. Just because Ike is in doesn't mean it is a hindrance on his chance of making the Brawl roster.
 

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Number of characters is not a good basis for argument. If your going to argue against him, you should probably go the route of using a variety of Fire Emblem characters. We should probably see more than swordsman from the FE series. Axes, lances, mages, and thieves are all fair game.

Personally, I'm split on the BK- I like the character, but I lack the imagination to see him properly implemented in Brawl. But, at the end of the day it's not my imagination that needs to be tapped, it's the team at Sora.
 

Oldskool

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Cause you said so, so it is right? No.

Anything could happen, Sakurai could decide he wants to implement a villain from Fire Emblem and Black Knight being one of the more popular Fire Emblem characters, and not a main boss, who appears in multiple games could make an appearance. Just because Ike is in doesn't mean it is a hindrance on his chance of making the Brawl roster.
So you're saying they should waste time adding characters from the same game (who AREN'T HUGE main characters when there are PLENTY of other games in the series with MAIN characters to choose from? Right... using the "anything could happen" line isn't a very good point either. I'm just gonna sit back and watch the fun I guess, just like I did for Deoxys.
 

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So you're saying they should waste time adding characters from the same game when there are PLENTY of other games in the series with MAIN characters to choose from? Right... using the "anything could happen" line isn't a very good point either. I'm just gonna sit back and watch the fun I guess, just like I did for Deoxys.
What? Waste time? If Sora deems a character worthy of the game, they're going to put him/her in. Sakurai has expressed his desire to limit the Japan-only characters in the game, and unfortunately many of the FE characters fall on that list. It's not a waste of time to add a villain that spans two games in a series not known for continuity.

If dev team really wants to add one of the protagonists from oone of the previous games, they have had more than a few years to do so.
 

Oldskool

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Did you forget the part of the statement where he contradicted what he said about japan-only characters and how implementing them was a good thing via Fire Emblem? Fire Emblem of ALL Japan only series would probably be saved from that statement.
 

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Fire Emblem has its world-wide recognition...we need unknow-to-the-rest-of-the-world pplz like Takamaru and Sukapon...I know this isnt the thread for that but it still is kinda on topic...

I think Black Knight would be great...
 

Hong

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Actually, being from the same game also has a brightside. On one hand, it's better to represent the series with a wider range of characters, on the other having a connection between the characters has a few advantages and if we're aiming for Fire Emblem characters known worldwide we don't have a lot of choice besides Marth since he has already been exposed.
 

IllidR

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Did you forget the part of the statement where he contradicted what he said about japan-only characters and how implementing them was a good thing via Fire Emblem? Fire Emblem of ALL Japan only series would probably be saved from that statement.
He simply said that Japan only characters weren't necessarily always a bad thing with Fire Emblem's success. This doesn't necessarily mean that the Fire Emblem characters in Brawl will be Japan only, just that there's a possibility of more Japan-only games to be represented in Brawl.
 

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I don't like Japan only characters. That's just me, but i just don't like playing as a character I've never heard of until it's posted on http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html. Besides, the Black Knight is cool. He has invincible armor; a powerful, infinite durability sword; plus he's reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally hard to kill. BK kills Greil, Ike's father, and can warp via the Arcane Powder. He's the main antagonist for 27 looooooooooong chapters, and he never takes off his helmet (at least not in PoR.... I haven't played GoD and I heard somewhere he survives or something....) in a reference to Master Cheif, but evil. His moveset would be very unique, and I'd like to see what Nintendo does with him.
 
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