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Soviet Coffee

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I am not comfortable with the Swords lynch after a couple of people admitted they are getting town reads off him but are still voting for him. I mean there is dumb town and then there is dumb town. Is Swords so bad of a townie, we are willing to lynch him over that? I'd rather go for an inactive than dumb town. Because as painful as it is, a dumb townie is better since they are actually participating in the game. Not by much, but they are.

Chibo, I am more quality of posts over quantity of posts. I've nailed a few scum based on numerous fluff posts, so sheer number is not what we need to look at.

I admit my activity is not where I want it to be. As I mentioned, I was working overtime this last week. Getting up at 7am and working until 6pm means I am lucky to just read the most recent posts.

When I played with Dr. Riddler before, most of the posts were from Riddle (he would accidentally post under his Riddle account). Mac only joined the game during the last Day (he also posted from his personal account). Since Riddle is V/LA I am not surprised that duo has disappeared. Doesn't give me a read.


Gordito, you've been fairly active this game. Why haven't you voted yet?


Question, who else has swords pegged as town? Beyond Mad Scummy I mean, it seems like it was just me and mad scummy.


And the answer is no, cause dumb town we at least know is town, inactive we have no idea.

Here's some drink food for thought

Since coming back I still have more posts than
Nix, Riddler, and Tandora

Nix replaced in but replaced in on the same day I "started" and has only 5 posts. Riddler is a freicken hydra and hasn't had as many posts as I have despite being here from the beginning. And tandora idk.
TBH I don't care how many posts you have atm, that's not important.


At this point you've said literally NOTHING of use, CONTENT is what matters.



If you wanna survive I suggest you begin actively contributing and not ducking by posting "I'll do this later".
 

Dr. Riddler

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I'm gonna catch up with this game. I haven't read any of it at all. I apologize for the inactivity, riddle's busy unfortunately.
 

Praxis

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Tandora, probably safer. I, unfortunately, sometimes end up suffering due to posting too rapidly when I get bored at work. xD

As to the question of Swords, I don't get a town vibe from him at all. I don't get a clear scum vibe either; more of a dumb vs scum wifom. His case against me seems almost deliberately grasping at some points, but he did it after Edrees asked him to make a case on someone, so I could see him as a townie grasping to meet people's expectations as a townie. Unfortunately, a scum would do the same thing- so, WIFOM. I'm not really sure what he's doing that appears townie, though.


Chibo, even though you have more posts than Nix (who just replaced in), Riddler (who I already consider inactive enough to pressure), and Tandora (who is apologizing for inactivity), your posts have given us less information than even Riddler's one-liners. Both you and The_Guide have posted nothing except "oh hai guys will post later".

You just made three posts in a row defending your inactivity :/


Aight here we goooooooo

bedevere - "intentionally avoiding the game... scum tell? null tell? which is it, unless u think its something else?

everyone - praxis' self metaing: town tell? scum tell? i can not possibly see scum saying such stuff. town read for me. why did u think negatively of it bedevere?

everyone voting me - what do u think the difference between me and guide is? and dont state the obvious, read between the lines and give me some reasoning

Getting mixed feelings from Praxis 219. Should be able to decipher later which side hes on. There's some telling things in this post.

Praxis, what do u feel your most powerful tool is in this game?


~posted from my super fast droid phone get @ me
is the only post you've made in which you address other player's play, that I've seen so far.

I don't deny that The_Guide is worse than you at this point, but I so far all I'm seeing you do is defend your inactivity and try to claim other people are less active.
 

eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe--

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Was feeling Swords earlier but as I look back through his posts they look plain stupid as opposed to scummy.

Just dumb posts like this looks like stupid town:

I don't like using meta, but some others do....meatbag.

Tandora is calling me out on worthless points, calling me out for one-liners when the game wasn't that far into D1 even. She then calls me out on voting for the wagon that was "safe". Whilst i say that me voting goomba which had one more vote on it this early may have not been the best thing to do, calling me out for voting the "safe" wagon this early in the game is not a good point. She's trying to push for me hard when she sees that her madscummy wagon has died. So a quick recap.

- she voted me for a ****** reason when she saw her MadScummy (can i just call you MS?) wagon wasn't going anywhere.

-she finds me scummier for voting her scumbuddy, aka goomba.
Basically just downplaying his bad posting and (badly) trying to turn it on someone else.


Chibo stop posting about you inactivity. You were inactive as hell, you were V/LA, we know. But it's not important now, so start contributing.


We might be V/LA this weekend so if you have questions for us please ask sooner rather than later as we might not be able to be on that much. We'll try to get on when we can.
 

Goomba!

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I'm not buying that "Sword is probably dumbtown". He's been around here for such a long time now that I can't accept the newbie card being drawn in his case.

Digging out old posts [from like the beginning of the day] is like the most obvious scumtell ever - it's like textbook scum play 1 by 1. Making a big case out of nowhere where he randomly choses some of Praxis' less "inspired" posts [for the lack of a better word] two days before the deadlie ... I don't even know how to call that. It's hypocritical. It's EXCLUSIVELY self-preservation [something a townie should never be concerned with]. A big case, most of it COMPLETE garbage to get somebody else lynched two days before the deadline WHILE BEING A STRONG CONTENTER FOR THE LYNCH HIMSELF ... that's not dumbtown; that's obvscum.


:goomba:
 

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Chibo's face is offended not pleased about being called useless and so his scumminess being a null tell.
@ Adum & people calling Chibo scummy. He should be pleased not offended it's a null tell. Would Chibo scum react offended? No. Especially if he's as bad as Coffee says he is. Fail to see how no-one picked up on that, even after I pretty much said it for ya. Gave scum buddies the perfect line to back him up on. No-one bit. He's town, for now.

Chibo is not, however, useful.

I'm still active and keeping up in this game I just havn't decided on someone to lynch yet, feels like its hardly been anytime for me lol

I'll have a vote down by tomorrow or tonight
:|


Swords making a case out of Praxis' RVS posts is nothing short of ********. This is how useless he is. Cut the dead weight, no offence Swords.
 

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Journal Entry, September 4th, 5:00 p.m.

Things are getting close. Will have to go with the masses on who we get rid of... I've got no serious reads and I'm not gonna start a wagon on a whim. Not when someone else might have a legitimate one. But which one is legitimate? I wish I had a friend to trust.
 

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I'm not buying that "Sword is probably dumbtown". He's been around here for such a long time now that I can't accept the newbie card being drawn in his case.

Digging out old posts [from like the beginning of the day] is like the most obvious scumtell ever - it's like textbook scum play 1 by 1. Making a big case out of nowhere where he randomly choses some of Praxis' less "inspired" posts [for the lack of a better word] two days before the deadlie ... I don't even know how to call that. It's hypocritical. It's EXCLUSIVELY self-preservation [something a townie should never be concerned with]. A big case, most of it COMPLETE garbage to get somebody else lynched two days before the deadline WHILE BEING A STRONG CONTENTER FOR THE LYNCH HIMSELF ... that's not dumbtown; that's obvscum.
I've played 4 games on Smashboards (including this one). 3 of which included Swords. 2 of which have his confirmed roles. In 1, he's town, and in the other, he's scum. In this game, it kind of seems like a combination of the two games. When he was scum, he literally popped in once every 24ish hours and posted garbage. When he was town, he more frequently posted garbage, and would occasionally post substance. It seems like a combonation of both.

Why did I quote Goomba? He helped me realize that the Swords lynch is the best lynch. There's no other scummy vibes I get from anyone else. And I'd MUCH rather lynch scummy than inactive. So screw a laughable the_Guide wagon...

Vote: SwordsRBroken
 

CT Chia

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Vote Nix

He is by far without a doubt the most useless player here.

We don't know absolutely nothing about his role and his player (as in him + swordgard) has done absolutely nothing. Swordgard replaced out after three posts and Nix has made 5 whole posts since he joined earlier this week, without any content.

Nix hasn't made any effort to catch up into the game or to try and build a case on anyone.

Tbh I'm not completely seeing the Swords wagon which seems to be going on somewhat

and the game can completely do without Nix.
 

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Swords I dont expect you to write paragraphs. I do expect you to take clear legit stances on other players in the game like you just did on Praxis.

Also there is a world of difference between one liners and essays. Something in the middle is perfectly accetable and you should know that and not over react on a very reasonable request. I like your response and thoughs on Praxis and its all I sas looking for.

Will do a re read on the latest batch of posts and if someone feels scummier Ill switch my vote.

Im in vegas now on vacation and typed this onmy iphone so ubforyubately I cant post often as I said but ill do what I can since thedeadline is approaching.
 

Nix2100

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Vote Nix

He is by far without a doubt the most useless player here.

We don't know absolutely nothing about his role and his player (as in him + swordgard) has done absolutely nothing. Swordgard replaced out after three posts and Nix has made 5 whole posts since he joined earlier this week, without any content.

Nix hasn't made any effort to catch up into the game or to try and build a case on anyone.

Tbh I'm not completely seeing the Swords wagon which seems to be going on somewhat

and the game can completely do without Nix.
You go a entire week with less then 4 hours of sleep a day and see how well you do with your thought process -_- throw in getting the flu from a bunch of idiots on campus and yea >_>

You calling ME the most useless is kind of making me laugh, as I have at least posted, I've given my stances, I'm doing what I can, it's how i usually play Day 1, if people don't bother me enough I usually don't post that often, I'm doing slightly better then I usual do but *shrug*

So I'm curious Chibo - If I am the most useless player here, whats Guide?
 

CT Chia

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Oh wow I didn't even notice he was in the game and missed him while looking over the player list in the OP

But like, it's quite the predicament. What's worse, someone who hasn't posted at all, or someone who posts every now and then but gives us nothing? Someone who was scum would make sure to dodge prods and such and Guide posted as such that he was surprised he wasn't booted from the game.
 

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Was feeling Swords earlier but as I look back through his posts they look plain stupid as opposed to scummy.

Just dumb posts like this looks like stupid town:



Basically just downplaying his bad posting and (badly) trying to turn it on someone else.


Chibo stop posting about you inactivity. You were inactive as hell, you were V/LA, we know. But it's not important now, so start contributing.


We might be V/LA this weekend so if you have questions for us please ask sooner rather than later as we might not be able to be on that much. We'll try to get on when we can.
So after tandora says she's getting a stupid town read on me, you say the exact same thing? Buddying much?
 

Goomba!

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Only 1 day left till deadline...

How about voting the guide then? Unless people join my for a srb wagon it's the best option we have.


:goomba:
 

Mad Scummy

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Vote Nix

He is by far without a doubt the most useless player here.

We don't know absolutely nothing about his role and his player (as in him + swordgard) has done absolutely nothing. Swordgard replaced out after three posts and Nix has made 5 whole posts since he joined earlier this week, without any content.

Nix hasn't made any effort to catch up into the game or to try and build a case on anyone.

Tbh I'm not completely seeing the Swords wagon which seems to be going on somewhat

and the game can completely do without Nix.
I don't like how Chibo was told to start contributing and he then just picks up on somone who is even more inactive than him, I see his motives more to be self-preservation than actually scumhunting.
 

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Why in the world are people up on this Guide lynch?

Yes... he's an inactive... but that's why we got prods or replacements.

We're here to kill the scummy... not the inactive, possibly PR obtaining inactive.

At LEAST give him another Day to come and contribute. THAT way, he can either A) Come and be active or B) get replaced by an active player.
 

Overswarm

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Journal Entry, September 5th, 11:48 a.m.

Gordito is so... different. More confident. Stronger play.

vote: GorditoBoy69

Call it a hunch, but I want to bring everyone's attention to this. I just get the feeling he knows more than he's letting on. Maybe he improved drastically by this time... but I just don't see it. More likely he's scum, I've seen new scum act like this a lot. They're confident in defending people they have no info on (like inactives) thinking they're playing the town saint, but they're only confident because they know they are right.
 

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I think I'm gonna have to go after Chibo at this time. I don't like his first eight posts or so were completely fluff except possibly requesting that the hydras include their players in the location slot. I don't like how in Post 272 he berates Soviet Coffee for going after him because -

There's no actual case on me, you're just taking the easy way out by going for what you think is an inactive player.

Then the rest of his cases are against players WHO HAVE FEWER POSTS THAN HIM. That is such a huge contradiction. His claim that Nix is the most useless player here and completely missing the_guide implies at best skimming.

VOTE VVVCHIBOSEMPAI
 

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@Overswarm

You're not serious. I'm being stronger about my views, not playing like such a p****, and I get a vote for it.

Here are the facts:

Inactives can be replaced by active players.

Scum is bad to keep around.

PLEASE TELL ME IF THAT'S WRONG.

______________

Now, I'm not defending the inactive. More like giving them a chance. And if the inactive are inactive, then they can be replaced by actives. And, we can get more info on those active players. I'm trying to play different then how I'm already seen in Community, yea. I don't wanna be seen as useless. Cuz I know I'm not.

Maybe you just refuse to believe that I, a "Super Smash Bros. Fan 2.0" am doing good, but you gotta be open. Actually listen to what I'm trying to say.

@Everyone voting the_guide or another inactive:

What more do we gain from lynching the inactive, rather than the scummy?
 

Soviet Coffee

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Modrant time: Has either the_guide or chibo even received a prod for their insane levels of inactivity. The former has skipped a game day, the latter almost skipped a game day.

Based on the prod policy, it's unacceptable that at least the_guide has yet to be replaced.


Granted, Chibo is active now, so I see no reason to have him replaced, but the_guide needs to go, he knew the consequences for not posting (he said as much before).


I'm not buying that "Sword is probably dumbtown". He's been around here for such a long time now that I can't accept the newbie card being drawn in his case.

Digging out old posts [from like the beginning of the day] is like the most obvious scumtell ever - it's like textbook scum play 1 by 1. Making a big case out of nowhere where he randomly choses some of Praxis' less "inspired" posts [for the lack of a better word] two days before the deadlie ... I don't even know how to call that. It's hypocritical. It's EXCLUSIVELY self-preservation [something a townie should never be concerned with]. A big case, most of it COMPLETE garbage to get somebody else lynched two days before the deadline WHILE BEING A STRONG CONTENTER FOR THE LYNCH HIMSELF ... that's not dumbtown; that's obvscum.


:goomba:
It can be done as town, but as dumb town that thinks they're smart town, swords gives me that vibe. I actually pulled a rather similar stunt in FF6 mafia (so sue me, first online mafia game, thought I knew everything).


As for why it's not simply dumb scum, it just doesn't fit the modius operendi, calling a team this early makes you too public, dumb scum would try to blend and fail, dumb town makes a fuss and unknowingly makes scumslips in the process.



That said, the case on praxis was a little odd as far as timing, but if he had a "eureka moment" and thought he caught scum he probably just posted it, again not realizing what a terrible case it was because he thought he was smart town, and being dumb town he didn't realize the timing would make him look more suspicious.



As always, open to a change of opinions if something shows I was wrong here, but his play seems too much like an over-eager dumb townie.

@ Adum & people calling Chibo scummy. He should be pleased not offended it's a null tell. Would Chibo scum react offended? No. Especially if he's as bad as Coffee says he is. Fail to see how no-one picked up on that, even after I pretty much said it for ya. Gave scum buddies the perfect line to back him up on. No-one bit. He's town, for now.

Chibo is not, however, useful.
Errr, what?

So if he were scum he'd be pleased about being called scummy?


I don't follow you.


@Overswarm

You're not serious. I'm being stronger about my views, not playing like such a p****, and I get a vote for it.

Here are the facts:

Inactives can be replaced by active players.

Scum is bad to keep around.

PLEASE TELL ME IF THAT'S WRONG.

______________

Now, I'm not defending the inactive. More like giving them a chance. And if the inactive are inactive, then they can be replaced by actives. And, we can get more info on those active players. I'm trying to play different then how I'm already seen in Community, yea. I don't wanna be seen as useless. Cuz I know I'm not.

Maybe you just refuse to believe that I, a "Super Smash Bros. Fan 2.0" am doing good, but you gotta be open. Actually listen to what I'm trying to say.

@Everyone voting the_guide or another inactive:

What more do we gain from lynching the inactive, rather than the scummy?
Not if they're just active enough to not get replaced or the mod is never around (see rant at top of post).


As far as scummy vs. inactives, who's the scummiest player then in your opinion and why?


As of right now there's no clear lynch target so cutting the fat is an effective strategy, if we can get one, then things would change.
 

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Gordito and Goomba's arguments are convincing, as regards lynching scummy vs inactive on D1. Swords has given me the scummiest vibe so far, but I've been focusing on pressuring inactives. I was waiting to see how Swords would address the pressure, and all he did was accuse cheesecake of buddying and ignore the rest.

Vote: SwordsRbroken
@mod: Request Votecount


I think he's at L-3?

Chibo, do you know what the difference between you and The_Guide is? The_Guide isn't making fluff posts to keep himself in the game, which means he'll get replaced if he doesn't start contributing soon. You, meanwhile, are trying to skirt past without contributing, and you're pressuring inactive when pushed to contribute while arguing that inactivity shouldn't be held against you...

Right now, I'd put swords, chibo, and cheezecake as my top suspects.

We need to come to a conclusion before the deadline. =/
 

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@Mod: Is something going to be done about The Guide?

If not I suppose I would be ok with lynching him, though I don't really find his kind of activity a scum tell
 

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@Overswarm

You're not serious. I'm being stronger about my views, not playing like such a p****, and I get a vote for it.

Here are the facts:

Inactives can be replaced by active players.

Scum is bad to keep around.

PLEASE TELL ME IF THAT'S WRONG.

______________

Now, I'm not defending the inactive. More like giving them a chance. And if the inactive are inactive, then they can be replaced by actives. And, we can get more info on those active players. I'm trying to play different then how I'm already seen in Community, yea. I don't wanna be seen as useless. Cuz I know I'm not.

Maybe you just refuse to believe that I, a "Super Smash Bros. Fan 2.0" am doing good, but you gotta be open. Actually listen to what I'm trying to say.

@Everyone voting the_guide or another inactive:

What more do we gain from lynching the inactive, rather than the scummy?
How do you expect to convert the inactives into actives if you dont vote and pressure them? If you give them a free pass to inactivity they will post once every 3 real life days and get away with it. Im all for lynching scummy players over inactive ones but I takr issue with you calling out people who pressure and vote inactives. They are doing town aservice and as long as at the end of the day we pick scum as a lynch candidate.

So i dont think its wrong that people vote inactives over scum as long as are doing it to force them into participation , then as you say put our final lynchel votes kn scum. sjnce the deadline is a day away i agree that we are out of time and now can lynch those with most scumtells.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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@EP

I understand what you mean. Pressuring is one thing. But its almost 24 hours till the deadline, and there's still a guide wagon. It wasn't supposed to go out to those that are PRESSURING THE INACTIVE, per se, but those that are dead set on lynching the inactives.

@Soviet Coffee

I've played 4 games on Smashboards (including this one). 3 of which included Swords. 2 of which have his confirmed roles. In 1, he's town, and in the other, he's scum. In this game, it kind of seems like a combination of the two games. When he was scum, he literally popped in once every 24ish hours and posted garbage. When he was town, he more frequently posted garbage, and would occasionally post substance. It seems like a combonation of both.

Why did I quote Goomba? He helped me realize that the Swords lynch is the best lynch. There's no other scummy vibes I get from anyone else. And I'd MUCH rather lynch scummy than inactive. So screw a laughable the_Guide wagon...

Vote: SwordsRBroken
Does that about sum up your question?
 

Soviet Coffee

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@EP

I understand what you mean. Pressuring is one thing. But its almost 24 hours till the deadline, and there's still a guide wagon. It wasn't supposed to go out to those that are PRESSURING THE INACTIVE, per se, but those that are dead set on lynching the inactives.

@Soviet Coffee



Does that about sum up your question?
You really didn't make much of a case for swords actually being scummy, just that you got scum vibes.


So, I'd appreciate you attempt to answer the "swords is dumbtown" objections. He obviously thinks he knows the game, why would he go on the offense like this were he dumbtown?
 

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@posts @mod: Yes, the situation with Guide will be handled, unfortunately I've been a lot busier than I would like for the first week of this game, and so I haven't been activity policing as well as I should have. I will be doing this better going forward(probably tomorrow I'll integrate an activity list into the vote-counts and putting a more thorough push forward on it.

Now, on a semi-related note, I'm extending Day 1 through the end of this week. This is for two main reasons. One, when I made the deadline I didn't realize that the 6th was Labor Day, and hence I was essentially deadlining the game on the end of a holiday weekend which is never a good time to do so. Furthermore, because of the situation with Guide's blatant inactivity(Chibo I'm not worried about, he was V/LA for a good portion legitimately), I also feel I owe you more time so that all the player-slots can be accounted for before the end of the day. I will be handling the situation with Guide now, so by the end of the day tomorrow either Guide will be being active(and on a "if you get prodded you're replaced" probation of sorts), or I'll be getting in touch with the next replacement(Ronike/EE hydra) and they'll be replacing in.

tl:dr Deadline has been extended by mod to 11:59PM CST September 10th 2010. This does NOT count as the one allowed extension, because it is my choice based on extenuating circumstances. Guide will be given until tomorrow night to start being active, or will be replaced by Ronike/EE.
 

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Nix has the flu -_- short post incoming! and a prod dodge, no lies.

With the extended deadline there's no need to bandwagon on Guide as he will either start being active or replaced with another hydra -_- yay?

Im still amused Chibo has his vote on me after his attempt to get me lynched >_>

Almost forgot what I was saying there.....Nope...I forgot it -_- Going back to bed before medicine runs off..
 

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@Soviet Coffee

I did me some rereadin. And I'll admit, at the beginning, Swords looked a bit more dumb than scum. BUT, then I took another look at these two posts and saw what the reasoning behind em was:

This is the kind of stuff he's been doing all game, voting for people for no good reason. He's been willing to jump on a lot of bandwagons this game.


More joking and just being useless in general.

Voting mad scummy based off of the past case. This is another case of how willing he is to bandwagon jump.

Yet another case of his bandwagon jumping. He unvotes and votes guide, and he says that he'll vote either of the inactives if guide starts contributing. He's able to bring up the "well they're inactive so let's lynch them" excuse if he is questioned for this. He's only been suspicious of people who have had a case made on them, or of inactives.

Another case of his willingness to bandwagon others.

Him being useless again.

And again.

unvote Vote: Praxis

It's not that i don't want the inactives to die, it's that he's been jumping mostly on them all game. (he voted mad scummy who was an active person for lame reasons IMO.)
I don't get why he pulled a case up out of the blue on PRAXIS. And I love the way that he manipulated and twisted all of Praxis' words to make REAL dumb town think that he knows what he's talking about. Kind of says deflecting of attention to me.

BUT, ultimately, that's a hunch. Until............ you see THIS post:

So after tandora says she's getting a stupid town read on me, you say the exact same thing? Buddying much?
The Praxis case kind of said deflecting attention to me. This SCREAMS it.

*Note: These two posts are the LAST TWO THINGS he's posted.*

First of all: He completely dismisses the case on Praxis. I mean, dumb town would at least try to back their crap up, until ultimately, it crumbles. He didn't do CRAP about it.

Second of all: This guy has mad pressure on him. He comes back, and talks about expired buddying? No. Swords, Tandora and Expired aren't the only ones that think you're dumb town.

Third of all: Tell me that that doesn't scream (an attempt of) deflecting attention.

And finally, if you're stubborn, take a look at what Goomba said:

I'm not buying that "Sword is probably dumbtown". He's been around here for such a long time now that I can't accept the newbie card being drawn in his case..
I did a bit of research, and Swords HAS been here for a long time. I can't imagine him just being dumb town with as much experience as he has.
 

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Votecounts are slow, stalling the game. Whoever is doing them might need some help, otherwise this game will stall.
 

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Swords is at L-2. Tandora, EP, Mad Scummy, Goomba, me and Praxis are voting him.

That's the only one I really searched up :p.
 

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@ Soviet - if Chibo's as simple as ya say, he'd do the classic "omg yes ur rite this IS evidence that im not scum and am infact a bit useless" (scum answer) not "WTF STFU U BELLEND WAT U SAYIN?" (stupid town answer).

Jus' sayin'. I see no reason beyond the fact he's not contributed yet to lynch him. X1 doesn't feel the same way, evidently. Seen Chibo be useful b4 (rooted mah scummy self out) better he stay than swords. Official Mad Scummy stance coming soon. U down with a swords lynch iffit comes to it?

@ OS - moar thoughts, 'cuz that ain't useful.
 

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@Soviet Coffee

I did me some rereadin. And I'll admit, at the beginning, Swords looked a bit more dumb than scum. BUT, then I took another look at these two posts and saw what the reasoning behind em was:



I don't get why he pulled a case up out of the blue on PRAXIS. And I love the way that he manipulated and twisted all of Praxis' words to make REAL dumb town think that he knows what he's talking about. Kind of says deflecting of attention to me.

BUT, ultimately, that's a hunch. Until............ you see THIS post:



The Praxis case kind of said deflecting attention to me. This SCREAMS it.

*Note: These two posts are the LAST TWO THINGS he's posted.*

First of all: He completely dismisses the case on Praxis. I mean, dumb town would at least try to back their crap up, until ultimately, it crumbles. He didn't do CRAP about it.

Second of all: This guy has mad pressure on him. He comes back, and talks about expired buddying? No. Swords, Tandora and Expired aren't the only ones that think you're dumb town.

Third of all: Tell me that that doesn't scream (an attempt of) deflecting attention.

And finally, if you're stubborn, take a look at what Goomba said:



I did a bit of research, and Swords HAS been here for a long time. I can't imagine him just being dumb town with as much experience as he has.
I have my ideas why he abandoned the oraxis case, but rather then giving him an out, let's ask shall we?




In regards to him being around for a while, I know, but I followed some of his previous games, and quite frankly I am not impressed by his play at all. Time played doesn't equal skill and in my opinion he seems like a weak enough player to do this.



@swords Why aren't you aggressively pursuing your case against praxis?


@ Soviet - if Chibo's as simple as ya say, he'd do the classic "omg yes ur rite this IS evidence that im not scum and am infact a bit useless" (scum answer) not "WTF STFU U BELLEND WAT U SAYIN?" (stupid town answer).

Jus' sayin'. I see no reason beyond the fact he's not contributed yet to lynch him. X1 doesn't feel the same way, evidently. Seen Chibo be useful b4 (rooted mah scummy self out) better he stay than swords. Official Mad Scummy stance coming soon. U down with a swords lynch iffit comes to it?
I really see it as a null tell more then anything else, the fact that he was a pretty effective player in FF4 makes me pretty sure he could pull off a stupid town charade.


If he wants to convince me otherwise he needs to start trying to do useful things.



As for swords, only if it's that or a no lynch.



@sir bedevere: Comment, who do you want lynched toDay and why?
 

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I'll be curious to get some input from Swords. His earlier post was rather disappointing.

Interestingly, had the deadline not been extended he'd have missed it altogether, no?

Swords is at L-2. Tandora, EP, Mad Scummy, Goomba, me and Praxis are voting him.

That's the only one I really searched up :p.
Tandora unvoted and switched to Chibo.
 

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I have my ideas why he abandoned the oraxis case, but rather then giving him an out, let's ask shall we?
Fair. But I'd like to hear your side after he answers please :)?

In regards to him being around for a while, I know, but I followed some of his previous games, and quite frankly I am not impressed by his play at all. Time played doesn't equal skill and in my opinion he seems like a weak enough player to do this.
In regards to this, I can see where you're coming from. If this guy is REALLY this dumb, not scum, I don't really want him around for too long. I don't know. I just refuse to believe that someone with as much experience as him can play this badly. It just doesn't add up to me.

@swords

@swords Why aren't you aggressively pursuing your case against praxis?
In case you missed it the first time, Swords.

And to add on... If you just wanna dismiss the Praxis case, then at least back up a case on expired. Substance is a good idea.
 

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Fair. But I'd like to hear your side after he answers please :)?



In regards to this, I can see where you're coming from. If this guy is REALLY this dumb, not scum, I don't really want him around for too long. I don't know. I just refuse to believe that someone with as much experience as him can play this badly. It just doesn't add up to me.
Better that the mafia be forced to take care of him by virtue of everyone knowing he's town and not lynching him, no?


But yes, I'll be glad to post why I think he did it once he answers.

I'll be curious to get some input from Swords. His earlier post was rather disappointing.

Interestingly, had the deadline not been extended he'd have missed it altogether, no?



Tandora unvoted and switched to Chibo.
Point of clarifacation, the deadline was 11:59 tonight prior to the extension.
 

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Didn't unvote.
Feh. Not used to being required to write unvote first. Since we have more time now, I'll stay with Swords to see what kind of pressure we get from him. Honestly, him or Chibo look like good cases to me at this time. Feeling a little better since I've seen more people say they think he's scum and not just dumb town. Lynching dumb town feels good, but it ultimately hurts town.
 
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