Bioware Mafia (ovah)

[Nix2100]

I'm Efficient? Since When? XD

I have slightly kept up with the game since someone always replaces out Day 1 so I'm not really that far behind, Heading to work then class so I will have time to get my thoughts together before posting later tonight.

 

[Praxis]

Is Praxis V/LA?

@ Praxis - Who would you like to see on the gallows? Musta missed your stances and posts since RVS ended (I can only find one, totally skimming over 'em amirite?). Would like ta see ya play.

Actually, yes. I flew to Seattle over this weekend, flew back in last night, and have been skimming by criticizing people's grammar from my phone and you're the first person to question me- which, I actually rather appreciate. Today's my first day back at work (I usually will post on here during my work hours).

I flew back on flight 1948 from Seattle on August 30th, if anyone wants to confirm. The flight was originally Seattle to Spokane, but ended up making a detour to Boise, as the Boise plane had to go in for maintenance and they merged the two flights.


I lol'd at this:

It is my experience that some scum like to look as if they are posting by actually posting nothing. Swords is falling into this category.

Seriously- why was no one questioning me? I was posting mad nothing. Because I was out of town, sure, but I didn't tell anyone that.

@ Mad Scummy, gimme a second to review and write and I'll start contributing now that I'm back. I'm amazed that I was able to take a three day vacation right at the start of the game and not get questioned for it.

It should've been especially notable, because I was mad overtalkative scumhunter in my last game. Admittedly, I was also scum in that game, and I replaced in so I didn't go through D1.


Unvote

 

[EdreesesPieces]

We both know it's me OS, less fishin'.

Get the feelin' he dislikes me and he lettin' that affect the game. Gotta rectify that or it'll cost.


@ EP (refresh ftw) - I said he was mad aggressive at me, not you, and that he did pressure you. I wanted an opinion on his reaction to me. I wanted him to explain what he was doing to you. Unless I mad misunderstand and you don't think he was aggressive to me.

First of all, I said I responded to the first post of "pressure" I should clarify that I considered it pressure only because three different people took issue with what I said. I considered the responses to me "pressure" because three people told me to knock it off and explain myself. Now that I've explained that, it seems like you make a huge disticntion between mad aggression and pressure. To me the difference is just semantics. You say he's mad aggressive to you and he's pressuring me, but I honestly don't know the difference, because your interpretation of the phrase "mad aggressive" and "pressure" seems to be different from mine.

I feel that Goomba did pressure you. I don't feel that "mad aggressive" is the term to use it. That makes it sound like he was voting for you and calling for your instant lynch asap. To me, that would be being mad aggressive, so I think your use of language is trying to paint Goomba in a worse light than what he's actually doing. He did pressure me, but only a little bit. I felt a sense of pressure mainly because there was a collection of people going against me, my bad for not pointing that out in the first place.

I don't know what to make of all this but I will keep in mind the concept that you are trying to make goomba look more aggressive than he is being as the game continues.

EBWOP: Didn't see mentos' post about nix replacing in. My question still stands though.

And i will finish by unvote Vote: Goomba and FoS: Tandora. I'd prefer to see Tandora getting lynched, but goomba wagon seems to have more supporters ATM.

I agree with Expired Cheesecake, Tandora, and everyone else that said this really looks like a scum tactic. I know it's been beaten to death but I agree, don't vote to get a lynch, vote to pick the person you think is most likely scum. What you just did is exactly what I would have done in this game if I were scum - send my vote to someone, but say my "real " suspect was someone else, that way once they flip town I can say "yeah i voted for him, but I didn't think he was scum, seeee?!"

FoS: SwordsRbroken

Guide I'm expecting content soon.

Chibo where are you?

I agree. Chibo, you still haven't responded to our queries of posting and providing us some insight. I know you were at MLG Raleign, but it's Tuesday, and you didn't post before Raleigh started either. I don't like this inactivity. Vote: Chibo Please contribute something.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

I should clarify in the above post, that I think Mad Scummy's saying Goomba was being mad aggressive on him and "pressuring" me is just a matter of semantics because I feel Goomba was being equally aggressive to both of us. Then I meant to say that what really would be mad aggression would be something like trying at all costs to vote someone off, etc. I admit it sounds a bit contradictory the way I phrased it, but this should clarify that up.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Swords ALWAYS finds a way to be terrible...

@Swords

Really? Metaing is bad? It's nothing but good. And when it comes down to it, I don't think anybody's getting lynched for metaing. That's silly of anybody to think.

Oh, and since my vote was RVS...

Unvote

 

[Nix2100]

*Using an American accent trying to sound British* Doc-tah? Doc-tah who?

(Sorry, couldn't resist. Back to the game.)

I've never played with OS before. For people who have, what do they think of his IC journal post? Does this show he's town trying to add flavor or scum trying to distract?

What about Goomba copying his journal entry style roughly 11 minutes later? Townie following a neat idea or scum trying to blend in?

Did you even read Goomba's post? He was making fun of OS practically.....

@Mad Scummy - Why do you think the journal entries are a scum tactic?...and again same as Tandora, did you read, let alone get what Goomba's post was?

@Goomba - Why are people saying your being aggresive? >_> If you asked me I'd say you are playing somewhat passively compared to who your a hybrid of, maybe thats just me.

@Swords - Your Queries amuse me, why not keep all your postings as HK? =P

People seem bugged by Overswarms posting styles...Im thinking you need something better to poke at as it's probably something he is doing for fun. I recall Virg (I think?) doing something similar with Haiku, and while he almost got lynched for it a couple times he was quite Town =P

I also feel like I am missing something important here -_- Posting this in class, I'll see if I can find it before posting again Tonight, I know there were a couple questions asked of swordgard that people wanted me to answer so I'll get to those tonight as well, If there is something else you all wanted me to look at, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

 

[Goomba!]

He did pressure me, but only a little bit. I felt a sense of pressure mainly because there was a collection of people going against me, my bad for not pointing that out in the first place.

I should clarify in the above post, that I think Mad Scummy's saying Goomba was being mad aggressive on him and "pressuring" me is just a matter of semantics because I feel Goomba was being equally aggressive to both of us.

@Goomba - Why are people saying your being aggresive? >_> If you asked me I'd say you are playing somewhat passively compared to who your a hybrid of, maybe thats just me.

So basically we have 3 people having 3 different opinions on the matter...Nix thinks I'm more passive than usual [which sounds a bit vague to me; please elaborate], Mad Scummy thinks I'm "mad agressive" and EP is somewhere in the middle but overall thinks that my intentions are good ones.

I think this whole discussion has led to very little and I think it's time to move to something else unless somebody has something really important to share to this issue. I will try to add more to the discussion just in case other people agree with Nix that I'm "passive" and will share some lights on players that haven't been talked about a lot so far. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary if the mafia tries to coast through the discussion between Overswarm, Mad Scummy and myself hoping that town will push lynches on each other.

 

[Goomba!]

4. Dr. Riddler (Macman/Riddle hydra)
5. The_Guide
6. Soviet Coffee(AdumbroDeus/Shaya hydra)
8. Praxis
12. Sir Bedevere
14. GorditoBoy69
15. Tandora

These are the people I will reread upon because I feel we have next to nothing from them. ChiboSempai has been at MLG Raleigh and Nix has just replaced in so I will leave them out for now.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Swords ALWAYS finds a way to be terrible...

@Swords

Really? Metaing is bad? It's nothing but good. And when it comes down to it, I don't think anybody's getting lynched for metaing. That's silly of anybody to think.

I don't like using meta, but some others do....meatbag.

Tandora is calling me out on worthless points, calling me out for one-liners when the game wasn't that far into D1 even. She then calls me out on voting for the wagon that was "safe". Whilst i say that me voting goomba which had one more vote on it this early may have not been the best thing to do, calling me out for voting the "safe" wagon this early in the game is not a good point. She's trying to push for me hard when she sees that her madscummy wagon has died. So a quick recap.

- she voted me for a ****** reason when she saw her MadScummy (can i just call you MS?) wagon wasn't going anywhere.

-she finds me scummier for voting her scumbuddy, aka goomba.

 

[Dr. Riddler]

I (Riddle) have been on vacation and will be back day after tomorrow. Ill try to post then after I reread. Until then its up to mac.

 

[Mad Scummy]

@Mad Scummy - Why do you think the journal entries are a scum tactic?...and again same as Tandora, did you read, let alone get what Goomba's post was?

You know when I said you're efficient...

I lied.

wrt to OS' posting style

Content is there, it's just put forward differently. Fail to see the problem.

C'mon Mac - u been less useful than a chocolate teapot at a diabetic convention.

 

[Goomba!]

Thoughts on the players mentioned above coming soon!

And I take offense in Nix' avatar >_<

 

[Nix2100]

Sorry Goomba =P Marshy was complaining about my avatar so I was searching for a new one, that was like the first one that showed up and I couldn't help but laugh, it's so great.

 

[Soviet Coffee]

I find the concept of asking someone to ask someone else a question hilariously strange, but w/e.

@Swords, what do you make of the interactions between Gheb and Mad? Any posts that seem odd to you?

I asked you if you wanted to ask him a question, I'll take your lack of question as a no.


Primarily I wanted you to take a more active role in the game, as you might've noticed, I have issues with inactivity.




*taps foot at the_guide*



Speaking of people who should be posting...

@Chibo: You've found plenty of time to post in many other threads, including 2 other mafia games, why are you avoiding this one?


At least the_guide hasn't been on the site at all since his last post, your last post was in confirmation phase AND you've been on the site plenty.

unvote
Vote: vVv ChiboSempai


Now, what do you think of he active players so far? Anyone you think is scum? Anyone you think is town?



@SwordsRbroken: You seem extremely set on Tand/Goomba being scummates, care to make a case about it, both individual tells and associative tells, cause quite frankly I see very little that would suggest them as a scumteam.

 

[CT Chia]

Just about caught up in FF7 Mafia, and will start reading this one as soon as I'm done that one.

 

[Tandora]

Why do you doubt it? You already had 3 or more votes on him when you unvoted. You got the wagon on mad scummy rolling based off of his bad play in general. Even though the wagon is dieing out, you started pushing for me based on me being a one-liner guy. It's still early in D1. If i see something that catches my eye, i point it out.

And OS is the only one who has voted Goomba so far, i figured i should might as well add my vote for pressure. But right now, you are higher on my scumlist. unvote vote: tandora

That is such a dumb reason. I would never start a lynch as scum and then move off when other people have joined. I would keep pushing harder and harder to get the lynch.

Backing off like that is yet another scum move. You got called out and went with that poster's opinion instead of holding your guns.

Did you even read Goomba's post? He was making fun of OS practically.....

@Mad Scummy - Why do you think the journal entries are a scum tactic?...and again same as Tandora, did you read, let alone get what Goomba's post was?

I admit, I more say the style than the content on that post. I was really thrown off by two journal posts in a row and was concerned I had missed some flavor thing for the game. Even after I realized it was self imposed, I was curious as to why those two posted that way. I even asked if Goomba was mimicking or trying to buddy.

Honestly, I am not getting a scum vibe of OS. Not sure about Goomba yet.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

You wouldn't start a lynch as scum and push hard for it THIS early.

And who said that that was a scum move? He had a point, i should get my wagon on you started early.

The connections between tandy and goomba are this:

Tandy starts weak madscummy case, goomba starts to add some more to it.
Tandora unvotes, votes me for "sitting on the sidelines and posting one-liners".
I fos her and vote goomba, which she calls me out on.

this is all i've got to go on them so far.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Another thing, FoS: the_Guide. way to go on not giving your opinion on anything and lurking when it's half-way through D1.

 

[Praxis]

OK, as promised, a little late, sorry. Tuesday was my Monday at work -_-

Thoughts on players follow.

- Edrees:

Edrees got a little bit of "pressure"; Mad Scummy started accusing him of being inactive once 'pressure' was applied to him. I found this rather silly. Edrees and I are personal friends, and we share similar work hours (we both work 8-5; he works Monday through Friday, I'm Tuesday through Saturdays). Edrees' last post had been on Friday at 3:41 PM PST, which meant he made it shortly before leaving work, and Mad Scummy was calling this inactivity less than 20 hours later- this was another reason I felt suspicious of Mad Scummy.

I didn't speak up for Edrees on account of being on my phone. I learned in a prior game that posting too much from the phone with short messages gives the impression of trying to skirt by.


- Mad Scummy:

I wanted to push for a lynch for Mad Scummy initially, because, on D1 where there is not much to go on, I prefer to simply lynch the player who seems like they will be most useless. At least in IRL mafia- when I'm town, I vote to lynch that one annoying player that isn't taking anything seriously, will probably talk with his head down, jokes about being mafia, etc.

Mad Scummy came across as that player, so I voted for him citing his obnoxious grammar.

His nonsensical push on Edrees also came across as a scumtell to me, though not enough to brand him scum, but enough to keep my vote on him.

He seems to be toning it down, though. I refrained from unvoting until I saw him actually pressure me; this made him the first person to notice the fact that I was on vacation and checking the thread from my phone and not actually posting anything. The fact that he's actually scumhunting, and actually checking on inactive players better than the rest of you is the reason I pulled my vote off of him.

If he's going to be useful, I'll just keep my eye on him rather than lynch him.


- Goomba

Goomba asked all of the questions I wanted to ask of Mad Scummy, and I appreciate him pressuring Mad Scummy into being active. Still...he's VERY persistent about it. Interesting. I tend to be pretty aggressive/persistent myself, though, so...I'm not calling it a scumtell, yet.

- Gordito

Actually, I don't dislike Gordito's play that much. He's been focusing on lynching Mad Scummy for the same reasons I wanted to- i.e., the player felt useless and annoying, and on D1, I'm happy to avoid the dumb/scum debate later on by lynching someone who could fall into either category- I just didn't verbalize it, nor was I as aggressive as Gordito was. I don't want to deal with people claiming dumb in endgame.

- Overswarm

I'm starting to suspect he has a posting restriction. Still, OS tends to be an overly flavorful player, so...I don't know what to make of this. Doesn't seem like a scum gambit, but OS tends to take gambits, so...I don't know. Either way, I find his journals enjoyable to read.


- ChiboSempai

Contribute please, or I will vote for you.


I need to re-read Tandora and Swordsrbroken. I don't really have a feel for them yet.

I have to admit that I feel like I'm biased towards voting for a Hydra today >_< I find them confusing to read and haven't really played out a game with one yet.

 

[Tandora]

You wouldn't start a lynch as scum and push hard for it THIS early.

And who said that that was a scum move? He had a point, i should get my wagon on you started early.

The connections between tandy and goomba are this:

Tandy starts weak madscummy case, goomba starts to add some more to it.
Tandora unvotes, votes me for "sitting on the sidelines and posting one-liners".
I fos her and vote goomba, which she calls me out on.

this is all i've got to go on them so far.

Dude, if I were scummates with Goomba, I would not call attention to myself to "save" him from your vote. Tom and Gheb are extremely hard to kill players. The thought that you could start a lynch on them this early that would scare me into taking the hit for him makes me laugh.

Another thing, FoS: the_Guide. way to go on not giving your opinion on anything and lurking when it's half-way through D1.

At least I agree with this statement.

 

[Mad Scummy]

You wouldn't start a lynch as scum and push hard for it THIS early.

And who said that that was a scum move? He had a point, i should get my wagon on you started early.

The connections between tandy and goomba are this:

Tandy starts weak madscummy case, goomba starts to add some more to it.
Tandora unvotes, votes me for "sitting on the sidelines and posting one-liners".
I fos her and vote goomba, which she calls me out on.

this is all i've got to go on them so far.

The amount of evidence you have doens't really match up to how sure you are sounding in your posts. I could just as easily make a case for you and her being scum team

@Nix, post some more content yeah? You've had one post that even referenced this game. Talking about OS' posting style is not useful. I also fell this questions is kinda dumb:

@Goomba - Why are people saying your being aggresive? >_> If you asked me I'd say you are playing somewhat passively compared to who your a hybrid of, maybe thats just me.

You would probably be much better off asking the person who called him aggressive (us). but actually I'm pretty sure that topic had been discussed at much length

 

[eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe--]

Another thing, FoS: the_Guide. way to go on not giving your opinion on anything and lurking when it's half-way through D1.

Way to be skimming. He said he'd post his thoughts later, and AFAIK he hasn't been online since he said that.

Dude, if I were scummates with Goomba, I would not call attention to myself to "save" him from your vote. Tom and Gheb are extremely hard to kill players. The thought that you could start a lynch on them this early that would scare me into taking the hit for him makes me laugh.

I don't really like this post. Reeks of WIFOM.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

I know, but how long is later? I really don't want this to be like Mr eric from newbie mafia 3, where he gave excuses for his inactivity every time he made a post and did no scumhunting and then played the heck out of the newbie card at endgame, winning it for mafia.

Has he posted V/LA in the social thread?

 

[Goomba!]

Time to bring something new to the table...

That's some pretty extreme wiform there for everything, and what do you hope to gain through this line of discussion? I know this is RVS right now, but since you want everyone involved, that discussion is presumably gonna take a fair amount of time, how does it help us catch scum?

Edrees, you can say the same thing about anything said in RVS, but the fact is without a context related to wincon, it's unlikely to produce useful information. And even if it is more useful then RVS, the reality is that its gonna delay exit from RVS, which is already starting to occur.

So since it is gonna have a negative net effect, I see no reason to pursue that course of action, but your answer doesn't seem scummy so no further questions on this topic.

@Mad Scummy

Explain how I've been more agressive towards EP in the beginning than Soviet Coffee. I don't remember you mentioning him when you were talking about the "pressure" that was on him. Why? SC's post contains a much more direct accusation of using WIFOM, whereas my points didn't contain more than general advice. Any reason why you question my motives but not SC's?

Vote: expiredcheesecake

LOTS of generic buddying and wishy-washiness. Seems like noob scum play to me.

Why not? Are you anti-meta in general or do you feel that its a bad idea in particular against mad scummy?

@Swiss (Technically Mad Scummy I guess)

If youre town, stop posting like that. Generating discussion by being scummy, dumb, and annoying is not good and you need to stop. We've been through this before. If you're scum, by all means continue.

@Swords

Can you answer Gordito's (I think?) question please? When have you seen Swiss' playstyle work well endgame?

I'm very curious about your thoughts on what's going on recently. You haven't added all that much and while you do have a point @ Cheesecake I'm wondering if you vote was still there if you were actually caught up [which I somewhat doubt; you're quite behind in FFVII too]. It would be nice to hear whom you consider scum as you're ono of the more experienced players here.

@mentos: Prod Swordgard please.

[...]

For now...

unvote
Vote: swordgard

*taps foot at the_guide*

[...]

At least the_guide hasn't been on the site at all since his last post, your last post was in confirmation phase AND you've been on the site plenty.

unvote
Vote: vVv ChiboSempai

Now, what do you think of he active players so far? Anyone you think is scum? Anyone you think is town?

Same question to you. What do *you* think of the active players so far? Quite frankly, the only thing I saw you doing upon rereading was to go after inactives- the easiest target you could go for because they can't fight back and it's easy to justify going after them.

The problem is that by mainly going after inactives [I do realize that you also had minor issues with Overswarm] you give us no more information than the inactives themselves so I think it's about time you two start talking about the activity and not only the lack thereof.

When the time comes that the deadline approaches I will not hesitate to vote off an inacive player either if needed be. Right now, I don't think it should be our main priority.

Wow Swords really not liking that post. Goomba has one vote on them, I don't see how you got a "bandwagon" off of that.

If you want Tandora dead post some reasoning or something. You're not looking credible at all in my book. "goomba has more supporters [which is false] so ill vote them even though its not who i really want to lynch." Nice blatant bandwagoning there.

Oh and Bedevere asked you a question iirc. Don't skim.

Guide I'm expecting content soon.

Chibo where are you?

No cheesecake, where are *you*. You've done plenty of buddying and defending, staying out of the main discussion nicely. I think it's about to start contributing more by now. We have no clue who you think is scum and why and you're input has been more than lackluster. Time to step it up.

@all the players I mentioned + Sir Bedevere, Gordito Boy, The Guide and Praxis

Who is scum and why? The sooner you start taking a stance and make information available the less we'll struggle to find a lynch when the deadline comes around [it's in 4 days JFYI].

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Doing some re reads of my own; because nobody is posting and not much new is happening! Where is everybody? Play mafia, this game suddenly got really slow.

Anyway; I did a re read on Expired Cheesecake;

oh snap shaya's in this game

man these freaking journals man man

overswarm this is no time for friends psh who is this kid

gordito this is mafia get out with this 'basketball' psh

x1 gotta stand up for yourself and vote who you want man live your own life man

Shaya I've never played with you before, how many games have you played in and where?

Not liking Gordito too much, jumping on someone right after RVS ends is kinda ridiculous imo.

Wow Swords really not liking that post. Goomba has one vote on them, I don't see how you got a "bandwagon" off of that.

If you want Tandora dead post some reasoning or something. You're not looking credible at all in my book. "goomba has more supporters [which is false] so ill vote them even though its not who i really want to lynch." Nice blatant bandwagoning there.

Oh and Bedevere asked you a question iirc. Don't skim.

Guide I'm expecting content soon.

Chibo where are you?

Way to be skimming. He said he'd post his thoughts later, and AFAIK he hasn't been online since he said that.


I don't really like this post. Reeks of WIFOM.

Expired seems to just post in sets of one liners all unrelated to each other, responding to multiple posts from different people. Some players are doing journal entries, most just type regular paragraphs with useful info, expired cheesecake throws in a lot of one liners. I haven't decided if it's to help you hide or not. However, sometimes (most likely the other player in your Hydra) posts normally:

I've played with him in the past and my experiences with him (Swiss) make me reluctant to judge him early on. In LoTR Mafia, he actually contributed a decent amount (granted he did replace in so it's a bit of a different situation). I'm not one to judge a player by how they might play in the future. That's just speculation and it really shouldn't have play too big of a role in deciding on who is or is not scum.

You better know who I am Shaya

I'm having a bit of a problem with Overswarm's way of posting.

The posts in the form of a journal make me think of it as a distraction. I personally would be more oblivious to scumslips in his posts, because reading his posts is sort of like reading a story and my attention starts to drift off.


Mad Scummy, why do you reply to every post there is? It reminds me of my own playstyle, which nearly always ends up in me being either lynched or nightkilled.

It's somewhat late in the evening.
I have ridiculously long school days this year, as well as homework, so I can't be as active, I'm glad SOLID is going to help with this.

It's a bit tricky analyzing Hydra like this, but the posts I just quoted are much less scummy than the former ones I quoted with a lot of one line comments. Can I ask you if it's just a mood thing (don't feel like writing a lot sometimes) or if one of you just posts differently than the other? It's not too big of a deal, but I generally don't like the "throw in random one line comments about things that happen" playstyle, it makes it hard to get a read and assess town/scum when you don't have real substance to your posts, and I suspect it may be by design that you do this. (At least, one of you)


I also did a re read on Tandora, someone I didn't look into before, and I get a generally pro town vibe so far. Asks the right questions on scumslips, pressures people who are participating and doesn't pick on easy pickings (major slips or inactives), leads pressure on new people rather than bangwagoning. Just wanted to note the results of my re read. Not saying Tandora's not scum, but for d1, Tandora's play is satisfactorily town by my view.

 

[Sir Bedevere]

I asked you if you wanted to ask him a question, I'll take your lack of question as a no.

Uhhh...is the sentence you quoted ending in a question mark not a question?

@all the players I mentioned + Sir Bedevere, Gordito Boy, The Guide and Praxis

Who is scum and why? The sooner you start taking a stance and make information available the less we'll struggle to find a lynch when the deadline comes around [it's in 4 days JFYI].

I have no strong scum reads as of now, but you took the words out of my mouth about Soviet Coffee. I was just about to make a post about his lack of actual contributions when I read yours. I'd be down with a Coffee lynch if he doesn't step it up himself.

Other than that, Chibo and Guide have both been inactive and I'd be fine with either lynch, though preferably Chibo; as has been said, he's pretty much been avoiding this game, whereas Guide appears to be legitimately inactive (hasn't been on since the 30th).

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@Praxis:

Seriously- why was no one questioning me? I was posting mad nothing. Because I was out of town, sure, but I didn't tell anyone that.

I'm amazed that I was able to take a three day vacation right at the start of the game and not get questioned for it.

It should've been especially notable, because I was mad overtalkative scumhunter in my last game. Admittedly, I was also scum in that game, and I replaced in so I didn't go through D1.

Why did you feel the need to post all of this? Self-meta is not a valid explanation.

I have to admit that I feel like I'm biased towards voting for a Hydra today >_< I find them confusing to read and haven't really played out a game with one yet.

That's...an incredibly anti-town reason to vote anybody. :/ Were you joking?

 

[Sir Bedevere]

EBWOP: Vote: Chibo, thought I did that.

 

[Praxis]

@Praxis:


Why did you feel the need to post all of this? Self-meta is not a valid explanation.

Because this is the reason I unvoted for Mad Scummy. Because he was the only one who actually took note of the fact that I was inactive, which means he was scumhunting, and the reason I voted for him was because he was being useless.

That's...an incredibly anti-town reason to vote anybody. :/ Were you joking?

It was more self-analysis of something I want to avoid doing.


I didn't vote for anyone because of that- I was asked to give my opinions, and started rambling a little. I'm not advocating that in the slightest- in fact, I was writing it there because it occurred to me as something I should NOT be doing, because I realized while I was writing the post that I was looking at the Hydras for scumtells more than the individual players, probably because I find them confusing.

I realize in retrospect that the wording is very poor in that quote- I'm not saying I WANT to get a Hydra lynched, I'm saying that I'm realizing that I'm looking too hard at the Hydras.

 

[Nix2100]

Hydras are such a pain to try to get a read on -_- Astronomy labs are keeping me up late at night and I have to get up like 4 hours later for classes so my comprehension of whats being said and what im remembering is not very good =S

What I do feel though is that I agree with what some people are saying about Chibo, Guide and Cheese, so I won't bother repeating that...

Praxis and Tandora are giving town-vibes for me...and It's actually a little hard to get a read on OS with his journals because well...its just...weird.

Edreeses, Sir and Swords are kind of under the radar for me -_-

Honestly...this was mostly just a post to get my stances out there and I most definitely need to do a re-read when I get more sleep this weekend -_-

 

[CT Chia]

Aight here we goooooooo

bedevere - "intentionally avoiding the game... scum tell? null tell? which is it, unless u think its something else?

everyone - praxis' self metaing: town tell? scum tell? i can not possibly see scum saying such stuff. town read for me. why did u think negatively of it bedevere?

everyone voting me - what do u think the difference between me and guide is? and dont state the obvious, read between the lines and give me some reasoning

Getting mixed feelings from Praxis 219. Should be able to decipher later which side hes on. There's some telling things in this post.

Praxis, what do u feel your most powerful tool is in this game?


~posted from my super fast droid phone get @ me

 

[Praxis]

Goomba asked who I think is scummy.

Most people are either looking at Mad Scummy, or the people bandwagoning on Mad Scummy. But I actually like their reasons for pressuring Mad Scummy, as I outlined above, and I unvoted Mad Scummy because he's starting to be useful. I did a re-read to try to find someone to pay attention to.

The people I am most suspicious of right now are Expired_cheEezecake, and Dr. Riddler.

Riddler validly pointed out that cheese was being wishy washy. He hasn't changed his playstyle at all since.

However, since throwing out that vote on cheese, Riddler hasn't contributed much at all. Riddle was on vacation, but he's part of a Hydra, so he should have still been able to contribute...unless, of course, he's scum and his partner is being cautious.

I think, right now, Chibo is the obvious pressure target; we need more information from him before the deadline. Thus:

Vote: ChiboSempai



If Chibo posts soon, I will change my vote to Riddler or cheeeze- whichever I feel is being less active. I'm also waiting to see Nix start playing.

 

[Praxis]

Dang. Ninja'd by Chibo AND Nix.

Chibo, you have a valid point regarding The_Guide. I'll move my vote there for the time being. The circumstances are pretty identical; you both posted once apologizing for not being here and then went mum.

Unvote
Vote The_Guide

Please talk some more, Guide. I'll state the same thing as prior; if The_Guide starts contributing, my vote goes to Dr. Riddler or Cheeezecake.

Just got off work, I'll post some more tonight.

What exactly do you mean by best tools? Assuming you're not requesting a claim; I think my best trait here is that a good half of the players here are BBR, which means I've played with them before.

 

[CT Chia]

No, I didnt mean a claim. Its ok though.

 

[eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe--]

Same question to you. What do *you* think of the active players so far?

Mad Scummy - Despite a lot of people going after him (them) early on, I don't see him as very scummy. Hasn't done anything to make me see him as scum at this point.

Goomba - I really don't see what all the fuss with you being supposedly aggressive is. Not only have you really not been that aggressive, but I don't see aggressiveness as that scummy. I don't have a problem with it unless it escalates to intense tunneling or something of that nature.

Soviet Coffee - I'd like some more content. Seems odd for a hydra with Adum to not be contributing much.

Nix - Don't have much of a read at this point. I'd like to see him explain his last post. He said he'd reread and post more, so I'll wait for that before I judge his cases.

Praxis - Playing oddly as of late. Self meta perplexes me a little bit. I don't really see it as scummy or town as of now. Before that odd little play he was looking okay in my eyes. Doesn't stick out as specifically townie or scummy now. I'll wait to read more. I don't like him defending Edrees based on them being personal friends. Leave that out of this.

Tandora - Uhh, seems pretty town now. The exchange with Swords could be a ploy to try and seem townie if they're both scum or something. Can't know for sure at this point but I don't want to rule it out. Seems a lot more townie than Swords though. I don't like his WIFOMy post I quoted earlier though.

Overswarm - Seems town enough for now, but I don't really like the journal shenanigans. As we said, it's a bit of distraction and makes it hard to get a real read when it's surrounded by fluff. Nothing has really sticked out aside from the journals.

Swords - I'm going to do a PBP on him some time this weekend. I'm going to bed soon.

Edrees - Has made some valid points over the course of the game, I'm liking him so far. Obviously need to see more.

Chibo - I expect more activity.

Guide - Where's that post you promised?

Riddler - Where are you?

Bedever - Not sure, would like more content.

I probably missed some people but I'm going to bed.

When the time comes that the deadline approaches I will not hesitate to vote off an inacive player either if needed be. Right now, I don't think it should be our main priority.

I agree.


Who is scum and why? The sooner you start taking a stance and make information available the less we'll struggle to find a lynch when the deadline comes around [it's in 4 days JFYI].

Not liking Swords, will make PBP as stated before.

Can I ask you if it's just a mood thing (don't feel like writing a lot sometimes) or if one of you just posts differently than the other?

A bit of both. We've both been busy with school as of late, and we play differently. I can tell you that of the two 'good' posts you quoted, we each made one.

 

[eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe--]

Sorry about those tags.

 

[Mister Eric]

Newbie Mafia 3 was fun times >=3
<3

 

[Soviet Coffee]

I'm definitely having a hard time finding an opportunity to post here; I feel overwhelmed because I'm pretty new to "legit" mafia games. Most things I think of have already been posted, but I don't want to play the newb card.

Adum said he's unavailable for a few days ? Not sure why. Annoying situation. Don't know how long, but hopefully before the dead line.

Sir Bedevere..do you have any input other than input that you add just because someone asks you a question? ie, stuff you've noticed on your own. Feels a bit like blending in is all.

+

See now, if I answer this question, I'll be adding input because someone asked me a question.

This post was on the 30th; and whilst he gave a reasonably lengthy reply in this instance, he's returned back to what Ed was calling him out on already.

I'm finding him more suspicious as even though he's had a very very weak game thus far;

though preferably Chibo; as has been said, he's pretty much been avoiding this game,

he's only effectively willing to put pressure and vote on someone inactive.

Yes we like to lynch inactives as town, this is a given, but focussing on nothing else seems very wishy washy and scummy to me. The deadline is getting close but he hasn't really been willing to build a case for anyone; seems to want to start a bandwagon on Chibo. I wouldn't call his thoughts of OS a good investigation considering his are an echo of town thoughts thus far.

FoS: Sir Bedevere

So we know you want to end the day with inactive lynch, probably as quickly as possible - who out of the active players are you feeling suspicious of? What are you reads on them and who do you think are scum out of them?

Unless you would like to argue that all scum in the game are currently the "inactives"?

 

[Mad Scummy]

Soviet Coffee

Ok, so rather then apologizing and promising content, why don't you just deliver content?

You say this to the_guide, but chibo does the exact same thing and no problem with that?

 

[Soviet Coffee]

@Mad Scummy
I [personally] already stated my thoughts on Chibo a while ago.
He's always like this.

 

[Soviet Coffee]

Adding on:
Chibo always seems scummy, and seems useless, etc etc etc.
It's easy for just about any player to pick on him because he ALWAYS reeks of anti-town.
All the games I've played with him he's been like this as MAJOR TOWN POWER ROLES or not.