Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[Asdioh]

so... you have the same posting restriction again? apparently not?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Now we get to play the "wait for the posting restriction to show up on another player" game.

Whiiiiiich it won't, no doubt. Then we'll lynch Zen!

And TDW didn't just have a town read on J, he had "a gut town read on J, even though his play had been scummy. Just something about it screams town". Or something to that effect.

 

[Xivii]

Also intentionally breaking the posting restriction yesterday and today would result in a modkill.

If the mod feels that it was an accident then I would be given a warning and another restriction which would result in a modkill upon breaking either. Not sure if J piced any of that. I pretty much skimmed the game.

I have LA until Saturday but I'll still be posting. I'm thinking Glyph is scum though. I'll go back and post why I think Asdioh and Glyph are scummy specifically, but I have class right now.

hello: Sue

 

[Xivii]

Now we get to play the "wait for the posting restriction to show up on another player" game.

Whiiiiiich it won't, no doubt. Then we'll lynch Zen!

And TDW didn't just have a town read on J, he had "a gut town read on J, even though his play had been scummy. Just something about it screams town". Or something to that effect.

What that's exactly why I'm town.

hello: sue

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Zen before you go

What's your new posting restriction? Only thing I'm seeing is "Hello: Sue"

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

vote: Asdioh

been waiting to do this.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

also, remember when i had that huge case on asdioh?

TDW never really commented on it, all he said is that he got town reads on me, and ignored the bulk of the post, same goes with asdioh, they almost seemed like they knew i was onto something, so they tried to make sure noone discussed it, and that they did, i remember asdioh just going "blah blah blah" to the whole thing, etc.

also asdioh would just go ahead and do such a thing and kill poor ol' nabe.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

can present evidence if you want, just lazy.

 

[Asdioh]

Do you think TDW could have intentionally tried painting me as scummy?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

do i think that's a bull argument?
yep.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Soup evidence please.

Otherwise vote Zen

 

[Asdioh]

Actually Soup, I don't really remember your huge case. Link it if you please.

Last I remember, I thought Soup was town (because of tdw scumflip), and I knew someone would bring up that TDW scumflip would imply me as scum. He and I had few interactions, but it did feel like he was buddying me at times.

Anyway, off the top of my head, I wanted to look more at Zen, Kevin, and Glyph. I'm going to have to reread TDWs posts to get stronger stances on who his scumbuddies may have been, I'll do that later.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

big case here.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12521425&postcount=1868


tdw stuff here.

i just think that you wouldn't just not deliberatley read your own role pm, and he even said he hoped he was scum, i just feel he had scummy intentions rather then pro-town intentions.



because what i'm getting at is that HE DID know his role pm, he did know where he was aligned, his excuse was that he didn't read his role PM, which i find bull-****, because you would not just go into a game without knowing your faction, he did on scummy intentions, he was caught in his lie, and that role pm thing was his folly.

TDW, read it again, please, what part do you not understand, what parts don't you agree with me?

i feel i have a very strong scum read on Asdioh right now, and you're saying NOPE!

why, state me where i am wrong.

there you go, i'm lazy still.

 

[Asdioh]

or I'll do part of it now.

rereading tdw:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12478385&postcount=965 sticks out. He votes me, says J is scummy yet towny (which Glyph pointed out) and says I'm all around scummier and votes for me.

actually, the "tdw buddying me" thing was more early game. then he does stuff like this http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12484161&postcount=1068 . I think it's pretty clear he would have been happy with my lynch, soup.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12500272&postcount=1400 reluctance to vote J

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12501027&postcount=1426 more willingness to lynch me over J
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12504394&postcount=1578 http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12504408&postcount=1579 moar
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12504465&postcount=1583 moar

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12504563&postcount=1590 more saying why it's bad to lynch J. Lists JTB and Aposl as scumpicks.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12522134&postcount=1903 talking about Soups case on me

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12528439&postcount=1979 http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12528474&postcount=1984 he doesn't like the idea of J being scum

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12534314&postcount=2017 thinks Seik is obvtown

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12535048&postcount=2054 then he redirects to Soup after the claimed guilty on him.


Soup is town, Seik is town, J (Zen) is scum. Thoughts?

 

[Asdioh]

Also, if I were teh cop, I probably would have copped Kevin and Glyph by this point.

*wonders if there is an actual cop and if they have anything worth mentioning yet*

 

[Aposl]

well it would be an effective power if theywere able to change post restrictions, but im still thinking zen sawwy

 

[Kataefi]

VOTE COUNT!

[2] Zen - Glyphmoney / Asdioh
[1] Asdioh - Soupamario

[0] Pink Lemonade
[0] GandhiLaserGun
[0] KevinM
[0] Seikend
[0] Aposl
[0] Soupamario
[0] Glyphmoney

[6] Not Voting: Pink Lemonade / GandhiLaserGun / KevinM / Seikend / Zen / Aposl

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!
Deadline set for Thursday, April 28th, Midnight GMT.

 

[KevinM]

Would actually be willing to have cop full claim with his results at this point.

 

[Asdioh]

*goes to work*

*comes back to TWO NEW POSTS*

WTF GUYS

UNVOTE
VOTE: ZEN

FOS: EVERYONE WHO HASN'T POSTED TODAY

 

[July]

@Asdioh: I think the only person who hasn't posted toDay is GLG.

Vote: Zen

Zen, who did you try to watch last Night?

 

[Seikend]

I'm fine with a zen lynch currently. Waiting for zen's defence before I do anything though.

@KevinM, @GLG Scumpicks please.

 

[Asdioh]

Would actually be willing to have cop full claim with his results at this point.

@Glyph: is it hypocop time again?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Absolutely Asdioh, I'm actually not sure why more games don't do that.

 

[Seikend]

Looked it up. No idea if it's a good idea or not.

I'm fine with doing it if most people are.

 

[Asdioh]

I investigated KevinM night 1 and Glyph night 2. Got innocents on both.
Kevin is obviously godfather though.

 

[Xivii]

hello: sue

On wiinet.

@Asdioh 2214: You're only looking at the one way interaction. How others interacted towards tdw is just as important. And you're just putting what's on the surface as is Glyph.

@July: Nabe

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I investigated J N1 and got a guilty and investigated Soup N2 and got an innocent.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

We hypocop all the time in EM, it works wonders if people cooperate.

Shall I be the first to start?

I am cop.

I have a inno on glg, for I suspected an sk or any other Indy role.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Phone ninja yo.

 

[Asdioh]

Only one investigation, soup?

 

[Xivii]

J and Soup are probably scum, but I still don't really see TDW as having done much of anything.

Which I guess is probably because he hasn't taken many stances and is laying low, so yeah, I could see it. Honestly I'd have to look into TDW with an ISO before I committed to lynching him though.

possibly, but TDW hasn't stood out to m-

just read glyphs post I guess.

Like seriously, you guys are saying I'm scum because tdw said I was town. And you guys took half*** stances like these.

hello: sue

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Zen explain your posting restiction

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

And there's a big difference between being null leaning scum on someone and

Many of J's posts resemble his scum meta, but there is something distinctly different about them this game that I can't quite put my finger on. However, it rings extremely townie with me.

 

[ranmaru]

FFFF I come home and find myself at L-1. Alright I haven't read much but I see so many votes flying around my way I need to claim.

I'm the town watcher. Did someone say they claimed watcher already? I haven't been able to read properly but if they did then lynch them. Grrr I hate being forced to claim even when people who are voting me think I am town. >_<"

Time to speed catch up now.

Guys, thoughts on the bold plz.

 

[Xivii]

hello: sue

Why Asdioh is scum:

Asdioh you were stumbling over tdw since the moment Nabe claimed cop. Your wishy washyness was like ro obvious, and people seriously think that I'm a better play over this, that is sad. You first originally voted tdw after Nabe claimed (along with pointing out how you you called out Nabe cop which you felt the need to mention multiple times for some reason), but as soon as the opportunity presented itself, you let your vote go. Now by itself this wouldn't be all that much of a scum tell because of the reason which was because you apparantly realized that tdw was at L-1. How this connects to you being scum is how you then use your vote later. Which I will get to.

I was reading TDWs response, which looked scummy at first but then I was interrupted by TACOS AND RICE.

Now I'm back from eating and I see his calm response to Nabe, and Nabe acknowledging his gambit guess. I don't really know what to think until Nabe clarifies further... but it would probably be best if he didn't. My original guess that Nabe was cop was him wanting me to guess that he was cop?

So basically, I have to side with either TDW or Soup now, right?

(still doing my reskim reread, it's a boring process, only on page 12 lolol)

This post is so wishy-washy and scummy. "At first it was scummy...but then it was calm after my rice"

The choice of words here avoids taking a solid stance. And he continues with "So now I have to decide on Soup and tdw rite gaiz?" He for some reason had it in his head that all this had to do with him. This is what I mean by the stumbling. He got all cautious after Nabe claimed, and tried so hard to stay on Nabe's good side.

@the underlined: I was looking over Soups reaction to the claimed guilty and I just don't know what to think of it. I know if I were in Soups position, I would ask wtf made him suddenly convinced I was town, but then again I probably would have asked that regardless of my alignment. Soup just kind of accepted it. Is that scummy? Maybe? He then seemed indecisive about believing Nabes claim, which I wasn't because as I said, I had already guessed he was cop. Now I'm second-guessing myself, but regardless I'm thinking Nabe is town... but idk what that says about TDW/Soup.

The post I quoted should go far in clearing/condemning TDW, though. Casual redirecting to get the attention off himself, or him actually being impressed by Nabes play and convinced Soup is scum?

^inb4 this is pointed out as being wishy washy and/or indecisive.

J scum

Other than that, not sure yet, which is part of the reason I'm doing a reread trying to make connections between everyone.

More wishy washy stances on both Soup and tdw. He doesn't want to lynch his buddy, but he doesn't want to be connected to him either so he does his best to stay in the middle.

The bolded is the really odd thing here. He says that tdw's post would either condem or clear him. htf would it do that??? Of course there are two options for the motive of his post. There Always is. Either your scum and faking or you're town and truly believe what you're saying. Asdioh is trying to put it here like it's something special and that some how it will clear or condem tdw. It really makes me think that Asdioh was trying to subtly aid what tdw was trying to do by re-presenting the idea. Because simply stating the obvious (he is town or he is scum!) makes little sense.

Post 2089 (Didn't want to quote on wiinet): Asdioh again stumbles around with his view in tdw. He ultimately decides that he would rather lynch tdw than Soup in a wishy washy way.. but then:

unvote
Vote: Soupamario



?

He does this right in his next post because of Soup's 2094 which wasn't even scummier than anything Soup had been doing all game. This vote is what stands outto me the most and what connects the rest for Asdioh being tdw's bud. He takes the position that tdw is scum, but during the whole period tries to subtly reason that he is town, and keep Soup in the discussion. He claimed that he prefered to lynch tdw yet he took the oppirtunity to wack his vote onto Soup because of some troll post. It's inconsistent with the line of thought that Asdioh was proposing and really looks like a last ditch effort to move the wagon over to Soup.

Asdioh has done more scummy things too like asking useless questions that is such fake scumhunting like "zen what do you think of J's play?" (obviously bad) and "Nabe why did you say Soup is your townie bro?" and bits like that. It all looks so fake to me.

Zen explain your posting restiction

Glyph you acting clueless about my restriction is what leads me to think that you are in fact the one that has given them to me. Obvious I have to say hello: sue in bold in each of my posts. You being overly ignorant about it as you were with the pictures yesterday.

And there's a big difference between being null leaning scum on someone and

Yes exectly. Null-scum is a half*** stance. Scum can distant eachother without actually committing to them.

Clearly tdw knew J was town. Despite J being scummy, he was calling J town. Scum use this All The Time. Once the person who everyone thought was scum, flips town, they get the "told you so" brownie points.

 

[Xivii]

That took way longer than it should have on wiinet.

hello: sue

 

[ranmaru]

Zen thoughts on my 2234 plz

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

You're ****tin' me right Zen.

You expect me to believe there's a role that one day completely cripples a player, leaving them with no ability to contribute or defend themselves, and then the next day only forces them to put hello: Sue at the end of their posts.

Really.




No.

 

[Xivii]

hello: sue

Glyph that's because your scum. Reckon you want to lynch watcher so you can you roleblock else where.

@Ran: What about it? I'm watcher.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Or feel free to ignore what I said and claim I'm scum