Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[Kataefi]

OMG great activity!

VOTE COUNT!

[4] Glyphmoney - J / Pink Lemonade / Smargaret / BSL
[2] Seikend - Sqweedle / JTB
[1] Smargaret - GandhiLaserGun
[1] J - Glyphmoney
[1] BSL - KevinM
[1] JTB - Asdioh

[0] Pink Lemonade
[0] GandhiLaserGun
[0] Asdioh
[0] KevinM
[0] Toasting Dat Walrus
[0] Sqweedle
[0] Aposl

[3] Not Voting: Toasting Dat Walrus / Seikend / Aposl

 

[Pink Lemonade]

In other news KevinM is being a condescending ***hole and should stop insulting people when his play isn't even that great since most of his posts havn't been content either.

Seriously.

Also srs post from my side of the hydra when I get back from school :D.

 

[Kataefi]

Posting this so it's at the top of the page.

VOTE COUNT!

[4] Glyphmoney - J / Pink Lemonade / Smargaret / BSL
[2] Seikend - Sqweedle / JTB
[1] Smargaret - GandhiLaserGun
[1] J - Glyphmoney
[1] BSL - KevinM
[1] JTB - Asdioh

[0] Pink Lemonade
[0] GandhiLaserGun
[0] Asdioh
[0] KevinM
[0] Toasting Dat Walrus
[0] Sqweedle
[0] Aposl

[3] Not Voting: Toasting Dat Walrus / Seikend / Aposl

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Mod

Sqweedle=Me Sold2 wishes for me to use this account to play, so just edit me in.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

also @Pink lemonade

limited internet access, over spring break i will be very active though, so wait until friday

even before re-reading, JTB is my next to lynch list, but that may change.

 

[#HBC | J]

J, you disappeared bro, lemme know your thoughts on this smar parrot.

I went to sleep n_n

Anyways, I said I felt like I had a parrot on my shoulders and I do agree that it is smarg parroting me. Me no like. I would like her to bring of her own personal insight instead of just doing/saying what I have been doing.

Go to sleep and wake up with about 2/3 pages to read. =D Kindof like.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Glyph:

Pressure, Glyph. I liked how Seik responded to it, and I jumped off the wagon. And if GLG is probably scum, why do you want to lynch me or J?

Because "you're too town" is a horrible reason to lynch someone. I'm not supporting his lynch in the slightest, I just know he can make himself look town regardless of alignment.

that is two sides of the coin, too town can be played off of mafia or town themselves, GLG for now is that coin, null, if you will.

also, why is J scum? were you just looking for a quick lynch?


KevinM:
Personally, this coin is also with KevinM, he is very confident, composed, and vibrant, i feel that he could be a use for us or a dangerment, if means come to, i will go against the strongest in this game if i find something.

seeing BSL as scum makes me want to tilt my head a little, but i don't have any idea of how KevinM plays so i digress.

meaning..i'm keeping an eye on you, very closely, Kevin.

J:
Town for now, i dunno, i can see why some would think he/she is scum, "Yay i'm town now" can be such a stupid gesture to either side, but he/she may be just town...appreciating he/she is town.

sorry, dunno your gender. :X

#252 AGREE.

Pink Lemonade:
Jesus christ, could you be more scum?

I like the idea in theory, yet I feel July might hold back on ballzy thing's I'd say, and just agree with the rest of the town. For example, wagon hopping. She might wagon hop. I'll let her, so she can vote someone she suspects, but then I might derail onto another person after she has thrown enough suspicion. I try not to wagon hop without enough reason. Or if everyone wants to NL, she'll agree with the whole town. I'm like no.

you are basically contradicting yourself, and the fact you are hesitant and trying to cover yourself with another head of yours is absolute bull****.

also your other posts are just regular questioning and trying to fit into the town, so yeah.

Seikend:
Off the hook for now, i did have a gut feeling you could just be playing the passive yet agressive card.

Toastin Dat Walrus:
Dunno. needs moar posts.

BSL:
Sticking with town still, yet to see anything that really catches my eye.

JTB:
Willing to just go with a seikend Lynch, fluffing, not saying much, 'can't scumhunt D1' bull****.

Smarg: Null, leaning town.

AposL: post more, or i see scum.

Everyone else i didn't mention: nothing really that caught my eye.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

my fancying posts skills are so horrid, i really apologize. ^^;

 

[#HBC | J]

Alright, read through 10 freaking pages late at night and I'm tired as hell. Like in my first post I want to ask again: who the **** is in what hydra? I read through half the game without even realizing X1 was in a hydra, and it might be because it's 4 AM, but I'm not even sure which hydra he's in. Same with Kuzi.
I have no issue with hydras, but it's a serious problem when people are posting outside of their hydra and I don't know who belongs to which.

Since I'm coming in late, I'll briefly post my thoughts on the players thus far. Not gonna elaborate too much, maybe tomorrow.

Pink Lemonade - Ran/Joey/July umm.. null for me right now :[ mainly because I can't remember anything notable they've said off the top of my head, or in my notes.
GandhiLaserGun - Who/who?
BSL - from what I remember, hasn't done much besides talking to Sqweedle early game. He looks alright though.
Asdioh - never this inactive, must have been busy drinking margaritas
KevinM - so town it hurts
Toasting Dat Walrus - \(o_o)/
Seikend - I think X1's wagon on him early game was just to get things started. He looks alright to me.
Smargaret - I found myself agreeing with her early posts, like the one where she disliked Aposl's "policy lynch" shenanigans. She doesn't look too bad to me overall.
J - scum, because he's J and because of the reasons Glyph said.
JTB - scum
Aposl - probably scum
Sqweedle - who the hell can ever know with him. Vig fodder.
Glyphmoney - his posting style has been annoying, but I'm willing to say town for now. Probably an unpopular thing for me to say right now.

Vote: JTB

ok seriously it's 4:30 and I can't do any more xD
I'll post more tomorrow, before four.

Asdioh, me no like. Especially this town-list because it doesn't even seem serious at all and you barely comment on why you think X person is Y. Well wait let me correct myself, you go into detail as to why someone is null but you don't go into detail as to why someone is scum which puts me off a bit. =/ I'm gonna be holding you to elaborating on this. I would FoS this but FoS's do nothing at all lol.

FoS: Asdioh

Hypocritic yes but I feel just something must be said cuz it's just weird that post. Asdioh, take a stance on the Glyph vs. J/Smarg/PL/BSL wagon.

Well problem is that I'm much less active than Ran (especially recently thanks to Pokemon Black), and I trust him and Joey to scumhunt as I will, and I will add on to or clarify their stances as I feel necessary.

I saw Smarg starting off strong then slowly descending into parroting J, and there are some statements like the ones that BSL drew into comparison that I don't understand. IGMEOY Smarg, but PL unanimously finds Glyph scummier.

Also, as for BSL, I really like the conflict between BSL and Glyph, and through their interactions BSL seems a lot more interested in scumhunting that Glyph.

The vote on Smarg seems half-hearted, and it was a very easy choice to vote Smarg and provide the bare minimum justification that he does here. The issues he has with J's pre-game play and the issues he raises with J from here are honestly very weak and provide him with a very easy way to throw suspicion onto someone while remaining very aloof about what exactly J is doing scummy. Here his reason for disliking J so far as advocating his lynch were directed by a single quote that just isn't substantial enough to be used against someone.

The J/Glyph conflict that occurred from here I also really liked, and BSL and J are very different players but it doesn't take either very long to challenge Glyph and provoke posts like this:

The first line is unnecessary to his rebuttal and is a really unsuccessful attempt to cast doubt unto J's points.

I don't understand why this is just defense, defense, defense, then suddenly a vote for J. Somewhere between Glyph's last post and this post J had to do something that Glyph thought made him a more worthy vote, and all I can see that he did was challenge the reasoning of Glyph's first post. I think J already said but it just reeks of OMGUS. I don't see that Glyph legitimately finds J scummy, I think he threw it out there as an accessory to the Smarg vote and then got called out on it and is making it up as he goes from what he gets out of J's response to him.


Other thoughts:
KevinM's points on Smarg are solid, I don't see what he sees with BSL and Glyph though. Glyph has been quite scummy and BSL has been decently active.
Aposl stood out immediately in pre-game and then suddenly faded away when stuff actually started happening, I want to hear more from him and want hard stances.
Seikend wagon took off crazy fast, initially it wasn't scummy though because the pressure against him was valid. However, unless he doesn't post/doesn't take hard stances I don't think his lynch is as valid as a Glyph/Smarg lynch.
Where is Sqweedle? He's posted a bit but he's been a non-presence the entire game, tbh can't remember a single thing he has said all game.

I'm finding the problem I'm having is not that people aren't posting, but that they are posting fluff, weak stances, or just blending in with everyone else. Lesson: people need to make stronger stances.

Hi July =3 Me like this post.

In other news KevinM is being a condescending ***hole and should stop insulting people when his play isn't even that great since most of his posts havn't been content either.

Seriously.

Also srs post from my side of the hydra when I get back from school :D.

*facepalm* Hi Joey.

You guys really shouldn't focus solely on KevinM's attitude because he'll be how he wants to be and there ain't nothing anyone can do about it. (nor should we care lol) ^^

Who was that person I wanted to say something about..........oh!

I'm null on Seikend. Wagon more of a null tell and his response just sits in the middle with me to the question I asked him. He didn't call anyone out as scum but hmmm....need to probably read more of him.

Also let's just all agree KevinM is town, he'll be helping us and I'm pretty much gonna be taking him to MYLO/LYLO to win the game for us there since I stole his thunder in RG. =3c

 

[#HBC | J]

Soup, against popular consensus, I'm a dude and 100% glad to be.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

kay, J, might i ask you a bit on Kevin?

is he always this confident?

 

[#HBC | J]

kay, J, might i ask you a bit on Kevin?

is he always this confident?

Missed this question, from what I've gathered from playing with Kevin he is a rather confident individual, hates repeting himself, tends to dislike n00bs especially annoying ones that find him scummy, tends to do very odd things that are against the flow, and will openly tell you to your face if he thinks you and your opinion are dumb as all else.

Summary: A blunt person that can be a very tricky person to get a solid read on. Especially with his post style.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

thoughts on Pink Lemonade?

also after looking around a tad i can see some BSL scum motives, that little post with the post numbers was awful.

 

[#HBC | J]

Also I agree with you though on the BSLscum rationale KevinM has and that I am tilting my head to it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

*Waits for seikend to post before i leave*
=3

 

[#HBC | J]

thoughts on Pink Lemonade?

also after looking around a tad i can see some BSL scum motives, that little post with the post numbers was awful.

Meh it could be construed as him trying to prove a point and it being taken the wrong way or it could be taken as scum trying to say they have been doing things. Point is null for BSL regarding the posts.

PL is interesting to say the least. I am willing to put them as leaning town because I do like that post by PL I already quoted, however it does seem PL is more taking on the pushing Glyph wagon then I had when I just stated that I am calling him scum based on what I find hypocritic/weird/scummy behaviour. KevinM's point on them saying they are already okay with a Glyph lynch is good because even I'm not okay with setting a lynch as of yet. From what I've seen though. Ran/Joey side = null, July side = townish. Ran is looking a little townie but I need to look into them more in depth because most of the stuff I remember is him co-pushing the Glyph wagon harder then I have been.

 

[#HBC | J]

JTB, regardless of your opinion on how good you scum-hunt D1, please post more substance. I saw a gem though I'd like to point out because I agree with it.

You didn't like Asdioh's "introish" post either where you call him possibly scum-mates with Seikend (your first scum-pick? correct me if I'm wrong here.)?

 

[#HBC | J]

Glyph are you doing what I think your doing to try and be a lil smartee?

The way you answer this will be key, just a forwarning.

Don't cookie cutter response me.

 

[Seikend]

I don't have much to say Soup. Just rereading before I head for the shower.

I'll have some actual content when I get back hopefully.

 

[#HBC | J]

KevinM, I would like your opinion on Asdioh. If you have already said as such, can you go more in depth for the children? You can talk about Soupa/Sqweedle if you would like to but you don't have to =o It'd just be something a little extra for me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

same, i got class now.

 

[Seikend]

So, JTB scum, yeah?

His play has been non-commital. All he's done so far is state that I'm scum, KevinM is town and that Asdioh must be scum because he doesn't see me as scum.

So what, 3 stances at best, with absolutely no explanation, and no scumhunting at all?

27 posts and that's all you've got?

Nah.

Vote:JTB

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Asdioh, me no like. Especially this town-list because it doesn't even seem serious at all and you barely comment on why you think X person is Y. Well wait let me correct myself, you go into detail as to why someone is null but you don't go into detail as to why someone is scum which puts me off a bit. =/ I'm gonna be holding you to elaborating on this. I would FoS this but FoS's do nothing at all lol.

FoS: Asdioh

Hypocritic yes but I feel just something must be said cuz it's just weird that post. Asdioh, take a stance on the Glyph vs. J/Smarg/PL/BSL wagon.

Hi J : )

When I was reading I only skimmed Asdioh's list, but I think that its a good thing to look at again, considering this was the first legit post from Asdioh. The scum list is actually what strikes me as odd, considering his scum list is J, JTB, and Apostl for the reasons of Glyph said so, he's scum, and he's prolly scum in that order. Even though he said time was an issue, a brief explanation for those quite random choices would have been really nice.

Also, it's day 1 of the Day, we are not set in a Glyph lynch right now, but he's the only person we have collectively determined is scummy enough to deserve a vote. I personally have my eye on Smarg and Asdioh, need to hear more from JTB and Apostl. Also pretty null on other two hydras right now, not from lack of content but from lack of ability to read some of the players in the hydras so early on (mostly Kuz, but X1 to an extent).

 

[Asdioh]

more tomorrow, want to see asdiohs thoughts on why im scum

The only things you did that I thought were worth writing down in my notes in my readthrough were vote J, and then join the Seikend wagon. Looking through your posts, it's just fluff fluff fluff.

Aposl stood out immediately in pre-game and then suddenly faded away when stuff actually started happening, I want to hear more from him and want hard stances.

This might be why Aposl is still scum in my mind, his immediate posts gave me a bad feeling that hasn't gone away because I read the whole day's activity in one sitting.

Seikend wagon took off crazy fast, initially it wasn't scummy though because the pressure against him was valid. However, unless he doesn't post/doesn't take hard stances I don't think his lynch is as valid as a Glyph/Smarg lynch.

Wait, so not having hard stances is a way to keep the pressure off yourself and avoid a lynch??

o_O Scary, I just skimmed down part of page 11 (about to read it) and saw that, in regard to JTB, I share the same opinion as Soupa.

 

[X1-12]

oops need hydra

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

We really need to lynch Smar, lets start by looking at #200 She drops what I like to call the "interesting" tell or the "noted" tell. She's not voicing an opinion, instead just mentioning it, or saying its "interesting" That's something I just saw 2 scum members do in another game and lynched them D1 D2. To clarify, players who are town need to find scum, they look at intent and reasoning, often combined with what they've been told is scummy. Smar isn't doing that, she just points it out, what can town gain from that?

If you see something scummy, town might:
A) Vote the player
B) Question the player doing the tell
C) Ask another player about the tell

All of the above are clear methods to achieve the goal (reading the player), however just "noting" something, or saying its "interesting" is a common way to appear as though you are doing something. All this added to the deflection as I mentioned earlier, and parroting as Kev points out = scummilicious.

I suggest we all vote Smar.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

This might be why Aposl is still scum in my mind, his immediate posts gave me a bad feeling that hasn't gone away because I read the whole day's activity in one sitting.
Wait, so not having hard stances is a way to keep the pressure off yourself and avoid a lynch??

No, I might not have worded that clearly enough...

Early Seikend wagon was fine for the beginning of the game and it was good to put pressure on him, but it's not valid to lead into an actual lynch of Seikend from there. If he does not post or does not take stances that would make him a viable lynch target, but the reasons the wagon formed are not as strong as the recent scumhunting we have that points to other scummy people, in my mind Glyph/Smarg and as you say in your post J/Aposl/JTB

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

As for Smar's buddies, I'm tenuously linking Smar, Glyph, J triangle. The Glyph/J thing looks genuine at a glance, but knowing J I wouldn't be surprised if it was faked, not to mention that if you actually look at the posts then its pretty large amounts of non-scumhunting, just needless back and forth about stupidity. I also really don't like Glyphs play half way through the Day but it could be him just being a ******. J's play is not exactly like I'd expect from scum, but its still not re-assuring me. Plus the way he seems to be subtly buddying up to KevM I dislike. J's question about the vig and vigging KevM makes it look like he's either hoping the vig is dumb enough to be turned against kev, or that he's trying to setpup kev to be incriminated by saying Kev shouldn't live, I really can't see why he'd need to say that. I'm aware I'm probably reaching now but worth mentioning. I've kinda skimmed this game so I have like no other reads. Asdioh/JTB/Seik could all be scum as the inactives blragh I'ma have to re-read because I stopped paying attention.

Also I'm not sure if its distancing or just scummy wagon hopping, but Smar makes a post with weak glyph reasoning but forgot to vote, then comes back and is liek .oooh my vote should be here. It made me lol.

Also Kev why buddying with J?

 

[JTB]

JTB:
Willing to just go with a seikend Lynch, fluffing, not saying much, 'can't scumhunt D1' bull****.

Tell me, when did I first say that I was willing to go with a seikend lynch?

Also, I never said I can't scumhunt D1, I just said it's something that I need to improve on, don't you see me saying Asdioh/Seikend are scum?

Content to come, I'm completely serious about Seikend/Asdioh scummates

 

[Asdioh]

We really need to lynch Smar, lets start by looking at #200 She drops what I like to call the "interesting" tell or the "noted" tell. She's not voicing an opinion, instead just mentioning it, or saying its "interesting" That's something I just saw 2 scum members do in another game and lynched them D1 D2. To clarify, players who are town need to find scum, they look at intent and reasoning, often combined with what they've been told is scummy. Smar isn't doing that, she just points it out, what can town gain from that?

If you see something scummy, town might:
A) Vote the player
B) Question the player doing the tell
C) Ask another player about the tell

All of the above are clear methods to achieve the goal (reading the player), however just "noting" something, or saying its "interesting" is a common way to appear as though you are doing something. All this added to the deflection as I mentioned earlier, and parroting as Kev points out = scummilicious.

I suggest we all vote Smar.

Cool, so if I assume that GLG is town then it means my townread on Smarg was wrong. Can you point out where she's parroted, though? I just looked over her and I didn't see much that would be defined as parroting, except maybe in her interactions with Glyph, and parroting there would be hard to avoid since he was pretty much refusing to answer questions. I also still think her posts are pretty legitimate, and agree with her opinion on Aposl.


@GLG: Glyph isn't a ******, thus why I don't have a scumread on him yet, despite his stubborn and annoying play. And you're talking about inactives when the game is less than 24 hours... and you didn't include Aposl in there?

@JTB: why am I scummates with Seik, but not Smarg, Glyph, or BSL? I mentioned all of them as "fairly towny" in my catchup post. Looking forward to your logic.

 

[smargaret]

G:G, I posted that oops my vote should be here very shortly after posting the first one. I saw the post in print, so to speak, and didn't see my vote. There's nothing malicious there.

JTB, you played the noob card. Don't play the noob card. It makes me think you're scum.

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

G:G, I posted that oops my vote should be here very shortly after posting the first one. I saw the post in print, so to speak, and didn't see my vote. There's nothing malicious there.

JTB, you played the noob card. Don't play the noob card. It makes me think you're scum.

I am totally fine with you ignoring my case except for the bit which is really easy to defend against.

 

[KevinM]

I skimmed this whole last page for a bit since there is something i want to touch on before it slips my mind.

Is anyone willing to lynch PL currently.. having three people playing from ONE hydra makes it almost certainly a headache to read.. Joey is in it which makes it a Lylo viability and thus far some of their stances have been a little more then questionable.

BSL my vote is on for asking someone on the first day of the game if they are more then a VT. Pretty simple I thought

 

[KevinM]

On my list skimmer de doodle also I have to ask.. I don't see me buddying with J?

Gedda fux outta here with that.

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

OK my bad its more him buddying you, but still:

Also let's just all agree KevinM is town, he'll be helping us and I'm pretty much gonna be taking him to MYLO/LYLO to win the game for us there since I stole his thunder in RG. =3c

And from you the bro bit.

J, you disappeared bro, lemme know your thoughts on this smar parrot.

Yeah its mainly him, but from what I remembered you were getting more friendly with him than I'd have liked, especially since I'm very open to the idea that he could be scum.




On the subject of that, J looking pretty scummy here, Kev asks him what he thinks of the parrot and J says...

I went to sleep n_n

Anyways, I said I felt like I had a parrot on my shoulders and I do agree that it is smarg parroting me. Me no like. I would like her to bring of her own personal insight instead of just doing/saying what I have been doing.

Go to sleep and wake up with about 2/3 pages to read. =D Kindof like.

... essentially nothing? Just a couple of sentences repeating that the parrot should stop parroting.

 

[KevinM]

I used the term bro and you feel like that's me buddying?

strong case you got there..

 

[KevinM]

I watch J buddy a player at least once per game.. not really a concern to me would moreso like to look at his stances on other players and not the buddy target.

That's just wasting time.

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

Dude are you dense? I said I was mistaken in you buddying him, but that was what gave me the impression.

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

PL soulds fun to lynch, but not clever. What happened to "I'm KevinM and we're lynching scum D1"

@Pink Lemonade: I have serious trouble reading Ranmaru (as does everyone), do you object to only July and Joey posting in the Hydra for the remainder of D1? This will allow all players to get a solid read on the slot. Ranmaru can still participate, just not post, instead talk to the partners and they will do the posting?

 

[KevinM]

Dude are you dense? I said I was mistaken in you buddying him, but that was what gave me the impression.

I clarified in my second post what I though.. now you just look like a jerk because you called me dense for no reason.

New style metagame I'd have you lynched for being so mean .

Think PL might actually be scum is the problem. And if not they just kinda stop existing so its fun either way :3