Best followup to jab/needle forced getups at low percents

[soap]

im pretty sure its just regrab. but i get bored.

so u r tech chasing, u jab them and u have all this time to set something up, there has got to be something more punishing u can do. i mean u did just do all that hard work jabbing them

the problem ive had with charged usmashes is it never pops them up, ive even had people tech it somehow and punish me.

downsmash is not safe at low percents either and overall just doesnt do much if it doesnt get them off stage.

are u able to crouch cancel everything from a forced getup?

alot of my theoretical followups depend on them not being able to.

1. ive done jab to sh full charge of needles regrab, seems legit if u do it right.

2. sh autocancel fair to regrab. depends on the cc thing i guess.

3. dair to utit/ftilt/regrab/whatever. again can they cc this dair?

4. u could shffl an uair too. it works kinda like dair. i never get the chance to do these regurlaly so it could be fun.

5. utilt is ****. but ive had foxes cc shine me out of it midhit on occasion. i wasnt sure if it was me being frame imperfect timing or they can just always cc.

6. fsmash?

7. upb hehe.

8. down b, uthrow to bair. (prolly not quick enough )

the cc quesion is what i really need to know

ahh......falco punishes his laser forces so much harder and more stylishly....

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

i'm pretty sure they can CC. i know they can for a fact as long as they have 1 frame neutral

 

[soap]

CC is the gayest thing in this game

**** it im maining falco

he doesnt concern himself with cc, in general, he is a carefree dude

then i can focus on profiling people instead of countering cc.

 

[Teczer0]

Best follow up to jab reset ..........

Is grab

Maybe upsmash if you feel like it. Dsmash at the edge? maybe?

Grab seems better though.

 

[soap]

ya. its grab.

grab is so officially legit

 

[Teczer0]

At like 30ish percent I'd argue its charged upsmash.

It links to virtually everything

 

[soap]

i was doin the jab ac fair regrab today at <20

it worked everytime

i dont think it can be buffered out

 

[raychun1]

lol, don't main falco, he's garbage

 

[lloDownedu74]

I'd have to say either ftilt, dtilt, fair, or grab. If I ever jab reset (which I never can pull off xD) I'd just grab, because I can't think that fast lol.

 

[Teczer0]

I'd have to say either ftilt, dtilt, fair, or grab. If I ever jab reset (which I never can pull off xD) I'd just grab, because I can't think that fast lol.

More often than not, its probably the best option.

Upsmash maybe be a distant second but grab is too good anyway.

 

[lloDownedu74]

<3 grabs. I feel like I can never land usmashes. Whenever I try, I end up getting comboed/waveshined to death. I've slowly stopped using it :/
After the reset, if you want to be creative (at high percents) go for a jab->fair. It only works at like over 130%, but it's fun

 

[Teczer0]

<3 grabs. I feel like I can never land usmashes. Whenever I try, I end up getting comboed/waveshined to death. I've slowly stopped using it :/
After the reset, if you want to be creative (at high percents) go for a jab->fair. It only works at like over 130%, but it's fun

You can't jab reset at 130%

Jab resets only work for generally low percentages it differs depending on what character you do it to though.

 

[lloDownedu74]

oooooohhh. k lol. I wouldn't know. My Sheik isn't technical at all.

 

[Teczer0]

You're starting to make me think you don't know what a jab reset is LOL.

Whats technical about pushing the giant green 'A' button when people are lying on the floor?

Silly Llod

 

[lloDownedu74]

Well, I'm not necessarily not (double negative) technical, its just that I never get the chance to jab reset. I'm always too far away. I normally just tech chase them with a grab or a dash attack. Idk

 

[Smash G 0 D]

Nah lloD knows what a jab reset is.. it's done on him enough as it is.

He's just theorizing about jab -> Fair at high % after jab reset, which wouldn't work (no jab reset). But the jab -> Fair DOES work by itself at high %, I can vouch for that (;~;).

 

[Alukard]

suscribing to this ... i'll read it tmr at work =]]]

 

[Devil Ray]

just to remind ppl, sheik can double jab rest. her second jab is incredible. it goes farther and lower. brrrrrrroken

 

[MarkLoo]

just to remind ppl, sheik can double jab rest. her second jab is incredible. it goes farther and lower. brrrrrrroken

i wish my sheik could rest

 

[SonuvaBeach]

i wish my sheik could rest

I think it would improve my sheik game a lot =D

 

[KirbyKaze]

i wish my sheik could rest

Just hit "A" twice then.

In response to the thread, I just regrab because it gives you the best follows. Unless I'm at the edge or they tech to the edge because it's Fox and he gets a bunch of options after 32 or so and he decides to roll to the edge. In which case I dash attack or D-smash them and try to gimp.

On Falcons I do the funny U-smash that hits twice thing on tap reset. It does about 28% on its own, so even if they do good DI they usually take a lot of damage. And I can usually get a Fair for it, so it's more like 40%.

 

[Nihonjin]

Even in PAL I'd say regrab 99 out of 100 times, so in NTSC you shouldn't even be asking that question, just grab.

 

[KirbyKaze]

NTSC grab is ridiculous.

D-throw to 2 more moves. Or edgeguard. Or a lot more than 2 moves.

It's so good.

 

[soap]

Even in PAL I'd say regrab 99 out of 100 times, so in NTSC you shouldn't even be asking that question, just grab.

how do u do the cool text fading?

very cool in green btw

 

[Alukard]

i like to upsmash and then regrab =D

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

jab reset->wd back and sweetspot chain.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Sheik can wobble in teams with the chain.

 

[Deleted member]

anyone can wobble in teams with anything that does less than 10%

 

[KirbyKaze]

But the chain looks funny.

 

[Alukard]

yo my chain saves are amazing lol

and now ima try that tho LOL

 

[Kira-]

i like to upsmash and then regrab =D

upsmash is definitely better above 10% or so

extra damage and another tech chase

sup

 

[soap]

glad there are people in the upsmash camp

cuz i love doing my rocafella shoutout

 

[KirbyKaze]

I like Usmash at percents where it combos into F-tilt or U-tilt --> F-tilt if they DI bad.

Then you do basically what you would have gotten with grab only it's a 20% - 30% increment instead of 7 - 10%.

edit: Grab is most reliable.

 

[soap]

edit: Grab is most reliable.

cuz i love doing my rocafella shoutout

blueprint III son

 

[Nihonjin]

how do u do the cool text fading?

very cool in green btw

I got it from a website, it's pretty awesome isn't it?

http://tektek.org/color/

 

[KirbyKaze]

Oh my god I'm using that forever now.

 

[Phoenix~Lament]

That text thing is LEGIT

Sorry for the bump, lol

 

[jugfingers]

Im just starting to play shiek and in my mind i would thinka shffld downair would be an awesome setup for lots of stuff after a jab reset but, im just a noob? the fact that nobody mentioned this makes me question my thinking.

 

[KirbyKaze]

It's not bad but her Dair is weak and can be ASDIed down forever.

 

[soap]

i mentioned dair in the first post

along with the rest of her moveset haha.

it turns out most stuff can be ASDI'd down or CC'ed if u r slow, leaving grab as the **** button