Best and Worst moves in the game/for each character?

[crush]

read the title.

imo foxes shine is his best move and his worst move is probably fair
falcos best moves are dair/shine/laser and worst move = uair/dtilt/fair?
roys best move = d tilt. worst move = f tilt

 

[Krynxe]

Ness' best move is PK Flash cause it does tons of damage and none of his moves are bad

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Sheik's worst move = fair/dthrow/needles.

They are equally as bad as each other.

Best = umm...

 

[Phoenix~Lament]

to be very very technically correct

everyone's worst move is their taunt

 

[Krynxe]

to be very very technically correct

everyone's worst move is their taunt

I disagree. Sheik's taunt is better than her down+b

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Poor Zelda...

 

[keeper]

to be very very technically correct

everyone's worst move is their taunt

Nope. Luigi is host of the worst move in the game in every regard.

Downward angle ftilt with Luigi is hands down the worst move in the entire game. Set knockback (none), set hitstun (less than the lag at the end of the attack). Nothing can be done with it.

 

[Kason Birdman]

Nope. Luigi is host of the worst move in the game in every regard.

Downward angle ftilt with Luigi is hands down the worst move in the entire game. Set knockback (none), set hitstun (less than the lag at the end of the attack). Nothing can be done with it.

hey man docs dash attack/marios dtilt are pretty bad

 

[Bones0]

Some of the most ridiculous moves are being said for worst...

Falco's ftilt is way worse than his uair/dtilt/fair, and Doc's dash attack is ****. Idk what you are talking about.

 

[Palpi]

I wouldn't say his ftilt is way worse. I mean it can't combo, but angled down ftilt is the best way to edge guard a fire fox to the ledge (from above).

 

[Max?]

Falco's Ftilt is very good, as well as his Dtilt and Uair. Maybe not his best moves, but certainly not his worst.

Doc's Dash attack is quite good, his dtilt is trash tho.

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

Best/Worst (IMO)

Fox: Shine/Fair
Falco: Dair, Shine, Laser/Ftilt
Puff: Bair, Rest/Ftilt, Second Jab, Sing
Sheik: Fair/Chain, Down B
Marth: Fsmash, Fair (?)/Down B (That's how good Marth's moveset is)
Falcon: Knee/Dash attack
Peach: Dsmash/Ftilt
Icies: Really have no idea
Doc: Uair, Bair, Pills, Dsmash, Cape/Dash attack
Ganon: Fair, Bair/Utilt, Neutral B
Samus: Missiles, Dsmash, Ftilt, Nair/Uair
Pikachu: Usmash, Uair/Fair
Mario: Really don't know
Luigi: Also don't know
DK: Bair, Uair/Jab
Link: Nair, Bombs, UpB/Fthrow
Young Link: Nair, Bombs, Dsmash/Fthrow, Fsmash
Roy: Dtilt/Ftilt
Zelda: Fair, Bair/Dair
G&W: Parachute/Down B
Mewtwo: Nair, Fair/Fthrow, Jab combo
Yoshi: Don't have an opinion
Bowser: Up B/I dunno, probably Dair
Ness/Kirby/Pichu: Don't know and don't think it matters.

 

[Max?]

Wow, people are ********

 

[crush]

Wow, people are ********

i kr

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

Wow, people are ********

Sorry

Let's see yours, friend.

 

[Kason Birdman]

yo falco ftilt is mad good dog. just space dat **** all dai. and edgeguard with it.

 

[Deleted member]

roy's ftilt is actually very useful for that character. realistically his worst move is probably back throw? none of his attacks are exceptionally great or bad really.

doc's dash attack is pretty nice too. as is falco ftilt.

 

[Strong Badam]

Set knockback (none), set hitstun (less than the lag at the end of the attack).

hitstun = knockback * .4
redundancy~

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

"roy's worst move is his ftilt" LOL

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

I fail to see a bad move in Falcos arsenal. I'd say in terms of usefulness, ftilt is the worst, but that doesn't make it a bad move.

 

[frotaz37]

You guys are weird. Falco has a great f tilt. His worst move has to be f air...

 

[Varist]

the thing with fair is you can get it to carry them in certain situations, and combo out of it. regular trajectory f-tilt doesn't really combo into anything AFAIK. I think f-tilt is Falco's least useful move.

 

[Dogysamich]

I don't care how old of a "joke" this is, if you look at it seriously, it's a straight fact.


Zelda's down+b is one of the best moves ever made in a game. By successfully doing it, you go from low tier, like, low 8 or so, to top 4 in game. It's hard to find that ANYWHERE. If you do, it's usually with some additional cost (usually meter of some kind). Other games have had the same concept for the same cost (i.e. Maids in Melty Blood), but the improvement of the change is NOWHERE as good as Zelda -> Sheik.

on the other side, Sheik's down+b is one of the worst in the game. I won't go outside the game walls because the move has some use. Yes, at the press of a button you drop the ability to beat a portion of the game with thorough use of d.throws, but Zelda is kind of a feather to Sheik being a rock. So like the few wise Sheik players do, dropping your awesome for a brief second on recovery could give you a chance you normally... would probably still have ('cause sheik's recovery is good anyway).


... I say this through my teeth, but Sheik's Down+B is actually one of the things in existence that is worse than Doc's d.tilt.

 

[frotaz37]

the thing with fair is you can get it to carry them in certain situations, and combo out of it. regular trajectory f-tilt doesn't really combo into anything AFAIK. I think f-tilt is Falco's least useful move.

How good a move is isn't dependent on how well it combos. Silliest logic ever.

 

[Rob_Gambino]

Yoshi's good moves are double jump or crouch, his worst is side-B.

 

[ETWIST51294]

Wow, people are ********

I have to agree.

 

[Bones0]

I don't think anyone would argue Falco's ftilt is useless, but it is definitely the move I used the least (obviously personal style will come into play). Losing moves that you can combo with like dtilt and fair are going to have a much greater effect than losing a move like ftilt which is largely used edgeguarding and is typically just an option to edgeguard, not at all a requirement. Basically, I'd rather have to edgeguard without ftilt than combo without dtilt/uair/fair. I also use dtilt and uair to kill all the time, so the only debateable move in my mind is fair.

 

[crush]

whats worse than roys f tilt? his dash attack?

also @mow im not counting throws/grabs

 

[ETWIST51294]

The stupid kicks after his jab is his worse move.

Gosh.

 

[Doser]

I don't think anyone would argue Falco's ftilt is useless, but it is definitely the move I used the least (obviously personal style will come into play). Losing moves that you can combo with like dtilt and fair are going to have a much greater effect than losing a move like ftilt which is largely used edgeguarding and is typically just an option to edgeguard, not at all a requirement. Basically, I'd rather have to edgeguard without ftilt than combo without dtilt/uair/fair. I also use dtilt and uair to kill all the time, so the only debateable move in my mind is fair.

I'd rather give up his kicks after the first two jabs than remove f-tilt.

 

[crush]

nobodys counting stuff after the first jab

 

[Varist]

How good a move is isn't dependent on how well it combos. Silliest logic ever.

obv did not interpret my post correctly.

 

[frotaz37]

K.

Roy's worst move is counter. It's soooooooo bad. His F tilt is way more useful.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I like Roy's up B.

 

[Veetaak]

I hate M2's dair. It's ****ing awful

Best attack? I think Falco's Dair is very good. Great hitstun, pretty quick and decent hitbox. A move with great utility.

(Also: Can gimp ppl)

 

[Deleted member]

lol at falcons dash attack being bad

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

Ok, by "bad" I mean his least used/least effective move, and in my own opinion no less.

Feel free to let the world know what you think his worst move is, instead of merely putting mine down.

 

[crush]

I hate M2's dair. It's ****ing awful

Best attack? I think Falco's Dair is very good. Great hitstun, pretty quick and decent hitbox. A move with great utility.

(Also: Can gimp ppl)

Lol the dair is not the best attack in the game >_>

 

[crush]

@wizzrobe: lol @ thinking marths counter is his worst move. up smash is definitely worse (d smash and maybe even f tilt are debatable too)

 

[Bones0]

Ftilt is amazing. Up smash is just misunderstood.