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Bear and Fish 11: Over. Everyone loses, Town loses a little less

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Already claimed broski, im a bear. vt.

my role pm looks exactly the same as the one on the OP let me quote it for youw
 

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You are a bear! You're known as a vanilla townie in some places. You have only your bear hands and your fish catching skills to find the scum.

Wincon: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
 

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btw as long as you guys agree to investigate/look into Nabe and Savage, I would be fine with my lynch. Doubt I can convince everyone to vote nabe toDay anyway.

I would try, but, I feel my flip will get the point across nontheless.
 

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oh, and did I mention I am really angry at TW and GLG for being completely inactive/unintelligent town members. TRY HARDER NEXT TIME, SHEESH.

If Nabe is investigated and it turns out he is town then you guys should focus on SN/TW

if someone those both are confirmed or flipped town then its swiss

im thinking x1 glg town atm.
 

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sure thing.

Actually tho, if you can get him confirmed townie through an investigation that would be preferable, as we do not waste a potential other mis-lynch.
 

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x1, why you wanna lynch me? Scum, or to get reads on others?

Is there anyway you would consider going with nabe? Saving my lynch would mean town has one mis-lynch more before endgame.

I think realistically its

Nabe
SN/TW
Swiss

If we lynched Nabe, we could investigate one of the top 2, preferably TW cuz he has much less content. Then go after Savage if TW returns town. Then we would have Swiss x1 and glg in lylo (or some other combo that would be predicated on the NK) and we would take out Swiss there.

Most options are covered.
 

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I've already several times posted why you are scum.

Answer my #504 which you promised to answer like 3 times so far.

your plan revolves around there being a cop. that's not necessarily gonna be true.
 

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I will promise an answer for that by tonight. It might take some re-reading but ill do it.

Hmm, should I just do an ISO on nabe?
 

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X1 said:
posts starting with long lines of "LOOOOL"
nabe said:
lol, this conversation.
nabe said:
Oh lol a hammer.
Scum.

Anyhow, I am working on the post now.

Btw, Nabe, I thought you were indy before i pulled my little stunt, but due to your reaction I feel you could be either mafiascum or indyscum. Plus, the way you backed the indy so quickly as a role 'helpful to town' and told me to back off before trying to out him confuses me. You are playing too suspicious this game for my liking.
 

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Btw, Nabe, I thought you were indy before i pulled my little stunt, but due to your reaction I feel you could be either mafiascum or indyscum. Plus, the way you backed the indy so quickly as a role 'helpful to town' and told me to back off before trying to out him confuses me. You are playing too suspicious this game for my liking.
I don't care what you think now. Earlier, you made the statement that you thought I was indy. Back that statement up with reasoning from prior to the GLG scandal.
 

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Hey, so here I am in KH Mafia.

Vote: TigerWoods
A good place for this right now. Should be on Cello, except he's town. Larx wagon seems bogus but I'll give it a solid read, always up for a wagon on You-Know-Who.

(Not Voldemort.)
Why put your vote on TW with no stance behind it? Plus, you seem to think Cello is town yet don't question his reasoning for being adamant about TW being town.

Note: here is my stance on Tiger Woods. Cello affirms, time and time again, and Acrostic (me) Ryu and TW are town. Since Ryu has already flipped town and I am town, there are three possibilities that TW could be.

1. Town, because it falls in line with the other two and Scum-Cello might have wanted to buddy three town players to get behind him in case of danger. This was posted before anyone was wagoning Cello, so this could hold some merit

2. Indy, for the above mentioned reasons, yet Scum-Cello could not have known TW was indy instead of town.

3. Mafia, Cello could have planned this far in advance. If he clears all three as town and somehow gets Ryu's flip then my flip as town out, TW would be cleared as town. This is why Ryu was killed last Night and probably why I would have been killed toNight if I had not spoken up about it. The only thing that does not add up is why Dourin was killed before Ryu. Nonetheless, I think TW is a good candidate if Nabe is town.

Don't bother putting it back on. X1 isn't going to respond to pressure in that way this game.
Unnecessary defense of x1, despite Ryu's unconvincing case. Scum defneding town, never seen that before.

Kuz, you said yourself you wouldn't be posting again for the night. If you're here to answer X1, then you're of sound enough mind yourself to post your reads.
Yes, because responding to x1 is just as quick as doing an entire 200 post read and then typing out my picks.

Convinced is not the right word, because that implies he's done something convincing. Rather, I think that he's town trying to look like scum. This is the third in a series of plays he's made in other games that lead me to believe as much. He's playing to his scum M.O. though, i.e. this is all with a grain of salt. For that matter, he could just be lazy/busy town currently. It's a Day 1 read, I wouldn't take him to lylo for it. (lol me carrying Cello to lylo)
So, relying on previous meta, Cello is town trying to look scum. At least you take a stance on cello, but your logic for it is bull. Despite this, you will change opinions quite quickly.






Now check this. Something that caught me off-guard and very un-nabe like. Previous to this point in the game, though only in it for a short time, nabe posted fairly frequently with decent bits of content. I am starting the next bit of quotes directly after the time that Cello came under fire.

You're currently voting Nymph. Is that not a good direction?
Question.

^Cellostyle
Unnecessary comment on Swiss' joke-post.

@Cello: He's zero content, useless, and there are potential connections to Kuz and Larx.

Tiger, remind me why your vote is on GLG.
Casual interaction with Cello. Tells him that, despite him having zero content, that he has potential connections to me and Savage. Asks another question


No comments on the entire Cello wagon -->

Is that L-1? L-2 at least. Claim.
Considering you had not commented at all on the Cello wagon, why did you feel that you needed to be the one to make him claim. Jumping in to the the cred out of nowhere. This looked indyish to me.

^not content
Drawing attention to the fact that you had been posting little content. Instead of this post, why not just post some content to follow up demanding Cello to claim?

I had this wrong, Tiger was voting Acrostic. Disregard.
Again no content, only telling us stuff we already know.

Vote: Cello
Swooping out of nowhere to hammer Cello. Has no reasoning for this and, if you recall, this goes directly against his stance on cello previously. How I see it? Scum backing up other scum when Cello was not close to being lynch --> realizing Cello was bound to die after his fakeclaim --> hammers to take the cred and possibly clear himself of his aforementioned buddying. Inevitably takes the cred for scum hammer.

^Leave it to me to ruin unspoken plans, lol. I take things as read.

But you say we. X1, did you also see that in the OP?
Further taking credit for outing a town baiting plan which could have just have easily been Cello telling Nabe to bus him and take cred.

Why point out which? You not knowing it was hammer, or Cello not knowing it was hammer?

The answers to both are that either could come up later in the game. They're important clarifications to make and they might as well be made before we head into Night.
Trying to sound townie by clarifying who hammered.

Yes. 6/11 votes.

Remind me why your vote is on Tiger.
Clarification. Question.

Kuz and Dou-x, anything to say while you're here?
Question.

Hey guys.

poison + s = poisson
!

Maybe it's a poisonous fish? Or a snake, bears probably don't like snakes.
Conveniently gets his prediction in about a poisonous fish just before the Cello flip. The first part makes me thing he is scum, the second he is indy. Scum nonetheless.




K. Now he kinda gets back on track once Cello is actually dead. Struck me as weird that his content went down and he tried to lay low during the main push of the Cello wagon.

This argument, lol.
Swiss is a great lynch toDay. Kuz or GLG would be better in a D2. Preferably Kuz, since GLG is playing to his town which happens to coincide with being terrible and contributing nothing at all. Kuz is gut, I'll find my reasoning in a bit. It's probably not the same reasoning as you, Swiss.

Would love a claim from Swiss, though. Character at least.

Some snakes are poisonous and they're a common creature. If there had been an indy poisoner, which Cello's flip seems to have shot down, snake would've been a good bet. Not sure what the motive to crumbing indy snake would have been but whatever.



I actually have a bit of a theory on the motive, but first I'd like you to go into more detail about why this kill wasn't noobscum.


Callin' out that FF6 ohoho
Obviously not addressed to me though, since you know I think I was right in that game.
Piggybacks on Swiss saying I am anti-town but its just a gut read. This is okay, but he lets see if he ends up finding his reasoning

He has no idea why indy would ever crumb his role yet will go onto say later that Indy probably has a pro-town wincon.

Ninja'd, the ^ was directed at J.

Kuz, why do you feel I'm indy? Furthermore, why are you outing your read on a pro-town indy at all?
Because town wins when all threats to the town have been eliminated. This includes the indy. Not eventually outing the indy would go against its wincon which is thus anti-town.

Nah. Swiss wouldn't feel my vote as pressure; I've already voiced that Swiss in D2 doesn't strike me as a good play. More to the point, it wouldn't stay there for long, as I'm going to read into my gut on Kuz shortly.
K

Nah.
Swiss in D2 isn't a good play when compared to Kuz or GLG.
K.

Swiss is a good lynch, but toDay would be better spent on lynching Kuz or GLG. The fact that it is D2 is the qualifier for why they are better lynches. Done talking about it.

GLG, start playing the game, or acknowledge in some way that it's begun.

Swiss, elaborate on my unreadability?

Vote Kuz
K...so where was the reading in to your gut reaction? I just saw you say the same thing three times in a row, then vote me without reasoning while dismissing GLG as someone who is not playing the game. Your stance on GLG shifts bakc and forth constantly throughout the game.

Because you've previously been more useless than Swiss. Good to see you're posting, puts you miles above GLG. And as I've said, I have gut on you that I've yet to read into.

It's amusing to me that you ask me a bunch of questions, but arrive at an answer yourself without me answering them. This demonstrates to me that you don't really care about the questions at all. Regardless, answers follow.

Probably. Dunno. Yep. Answered above. More or less.

What I want from you is the following: the reasoning for GLGtown if Swisscum.

Unvote
Guess where it's going next.
Because I posted, I am miles ahead of GLG and therefore the vote comes of. Thought you had the gut read thing to explain to us, guess not.

Vote: GLG

Your defense is shoddy, but so is the offense against you. In reality, you're scummy because you continue to flounder and post absolutely no content.

I attempted to pick out the parts of your post that contained content, but you can see how that went. But the fact that you're paying enough attention to this game to make a big wall when suddenly it's in the interest of your survival speaks volumes, and its emptiness does too.

Your next post needs to be 0% "I'm not scum" and 100% "here's who is".
So apparently, GLG's content-less posts are more scummy than the ultra gut read you had one me. You wait for Savage to post his long incrimination then feel safe going with GLG. You call GLG out for posting a huge wall of text when there was pressure yet do not question me when I do the same thing. Opportunist, banking off of Savage's assertions.

Current Stance: GLG is scum




Will do the rest later, g2g east dinner and I dont wanna lose all I have done so far.
 
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Hierarchy of Scuminess (from most to least)
GLG
Swiss
Nabe/Savage
x1
TW

Tw is 100% town, im calling that. X1 is playing good town so far, but he could be doing a ****ing awesome elaborate plot as scum. Kudos if you are. I always had a gut on nabe, not much more. J you playing weird too, repeating questions, skimming. If both swiss and GLG pop town, you or nabe would be good picks. Swiss has played his normal, oh **** I need to save myself game before he gets lynched. He does that more as scum, than as town. GLG is just playing dead scum in my book. Either he has given up or just does not know what to say to make him sound town.

Reason for bringing this up? This was th3kuzi's town list before his little stunt correct. These are also his opinions on each person as to why they are town. Nooow let's look at his current town list after his stunt.

Scum
Nabe
Larxene
TigerWoods
Swiss
GLG
X1-12
Town

Okaaaaaay why hasn't anyone pointed out that he completely did a 180 on everyone and his thoughts after his stunt.

His position on Tiger Woods that in his mind was 100% scum has moved down to top 3 scum picks! Why? Tiger has not even posted on the entire situation but he got bumped down anyways. Why?

Nabe, he moved down because he called th3kuzi not smart for doing his little stunt and voted him. Which ended up in th3kuzi voting for Nabe which he called "lol just what I was looking for." IT WAS OMGUS. Nabe was in the middle of his town list along with Larxene in which point he only moved him to scum because Nabe started th3kuzi bandwagon. th3kuzi EVEN said that he trusts the fate of town's game when he dies to NABE/X1-12/Larxene/Tiger. Now he has freaking flipped and moved everyone but X1-12. He moved his top 2 scum picks to his top 3 town reads and then moved Tiger/Larx/Nabe down in that order to whom he wants to lynch.

Larxene, The reason he moved her down is because she also called his move dumb as dirt. Which quite frankly it WAS. He didn't like how she agreed with Nabe on the stunt and then threatening to hammer him when asked. Thus making th3kuzi think Larxy has to be scum if Nabe is not. Why? OMGUS again. Th3kuzi has also referred to Larxy as town and whom he trusts to win the game with Nabe/X1-12/LARXENE/Tiger. Again Larxene has since then been moved down for well poor reasoning and has not called us scum. May I remind you he has agreed with EVERYTHING Larxene has done besides calling his move dumb with Nabe. th3kuzi also was the first to hop onto a poor case on GLG saying it was a good post when the next two posts from Nabe/X1-12 were "Shoddy Case". Reason being he was hopping on the easiest bandwagon and all the work had been done for him. After his stunt he claimed GLG to be the towniest of towns. Not based on GLG's actions but his move and the reaction equivalates to him being town.

Swiss, Why has he moved? Swiss has been the only one saying th3kuzi should not die for his move and th3kuzi is complimenting Swiss and trying to help move him along to get the pressure onto his number 1 OMGUS scum candidate. th3kuzi has been saying Nabe is a possible town or INDIE. Not scum, not mafia, no he called him INDIE. He has been calling Nabe more town but then once he started attacking th3kuzi he moved to him being scum. Swiss is apparantly town now more then Tiger for literally no other reason then the partial defending he has done for th3kuzi. Now he swears the fate of the town to Swiss/GLG/X1-12.

GLG, th3kuzi has been swearing up and down that GLG needed to die and that he was scummy. He hopped on the wagon and then tried a stun involving trying to quickhammer GLG. He calls that he did this based off of trying to get reads which is a load of crap. He got caught in what he was trying to do and is trying to worm himself out. NOTICE: He has moved his #1 scum pick to his now #2 town read. Reason is that now everyone considers GLG town after th3kuzi's scum flip. He also now trusts the town's game to his #1 past scum pick, his #2 past scum pick, and the person people seem to be looking at as the most town (especially with a Swiss scum-flip). th3kuzi just is calling GLG town because that's what everyone else is because his move.

X1-12, I have no clue why th3kuzi is calling him town along with Swiss/GLG now especially that X1 is pushing th3kuzi's lynch the hardest along with Nabe. X1-12 however seems to be considered the most town out of everyone and th3kuzi could not possibly change him on his list but up. It is strange however, he is going after Larxene and Nabe who have pretty much been in the middle of everyone's list or varies depending on the person you ask but once those two say something to him, He calls them scum and gets at them. BUT when X1 rips th3kuzi a new one, he moves him UP the list to saying he is the most towny of the bunch. There is something really weird with this. Why is X1 not moving down? Is it the way he is attacking th3kuzi seems more townie? My personal opinion is that it's because he cannot call X1 anything but town.

What needs to happen?

th3kuzi needs to be lynched. Now. There is no reason whatsoever to hold this off any longer. Tiger is gone. X1-12/Nabe/Larxene are not moving off th3kuzi. Swiss is only appeasing th3kuzi for some weird reason that he believes him to be town.

th3kuzi has pulled everything. Why did he need to try and quote the role pm from the OP to try and prove even more and more that he is just simply a VT. He continues to try and drive it into our throats that he is a VT however the other people who have claimed VT (Swiss/GLG) have not done so. Why? th3kuzi needs us to believe that he is a VT. th3kuzi is being COMPLETELY contradictory to his views. Do not give me views change in time but views changing that drastically based on a move HE did and moving people around who have not even commented on the entire situation. (GLG/TigerWoods) He is clinging to Swiss trying to get him to help him get Nabe killed instead of himself. He is pulling every card. WIFOM, AtE, and OMGUS galour.


Vote: th3kuzinator

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@MOD request replacement as well.

Will get started doing the second half.

J said:
Why did he need to try and quote the role pm from the OP to try and prove even more and more that he is just simply a VT


How would scum have known that every VT has the same role PM? The fact that I am able to confidently say I have the role PM makes me town.

J said:
Okaaaaaay why hasn't anyone pointed out that he completely did a 180 on everyone and his thoughts after his stunt.


Because I pointed it out myself, directly after I pulled my stunt. Re-read that part, hard to miss.

 

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If GLG hammers before we can talk this out ima be so mad for doing all this work for nothing.

While you are here, GLG. Thoughts?
 
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ATM I want you lynched the most, but we can talk about things plus I need to digest what you've said.

th3kuzi give me your newly found town list after that ISO.
 
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LOL th3kuzi xD Seriously requesting a replacement on yourself :laugh:

@Mod: I expect you take his first request seriously

^j/k
 

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If GLG hammers before we can talk this out ima be so mad for doing all this work for nothing.

While you are here, GLG. Thoughts?
The only opinion I have thats really changed a lot since my last post is my one on nabeshin, and I think you do have good reasoning with your nabe wall. Especially the bit on how he didn't really comment on the cello wagon and then BAM HAMMERED!

Plus, I don't think nabe is really acting like his usual town behavior.
 

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Getting replaced would remind him of the same. Regardless,

Vote: Grump
K....wait what? Wagon hopping shinanegans. Kuz and GLG are the best two scum picks of the day so let me start out with Kuz. vote kuz. I had a gut read on you, which I will go into later (still havn't explained that), but since you are posting now lets go on GLG. vote GLG. You posted a wall once you were in trouble and still have no good content, therefore you scum. Also Savage raises some good points on you. Oh? x1 voted grump? K. Ill wait until he comes back before voting him. *13 minutes go by* vote grump.

Whats up with that? I thought you had a read on me or GLG being the play (for bad reasons, but at least you had a stance). Why did you feel like grump needed the pressure at that moment?

Unvote, Vote Grump
idk
What was this post ever for? You know you dont have to unvote before voting. This post is just weird in itself, especially with that "idk" at the end.

Pretty much your answer, I think.
Clarifying something obvious and answering for savage.

I diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid?
Joke post.

lol. Why would a poisoner even crumb that, or claim it or anything. That's really silly.

Vote: Swiss
Looks like something you would have done, if indy, considering you wanted to impose the idea that indy was pro-town and had a pro-town wincon. Now that x1 had shattered that illusion, you seem to think this is dumb.

Ah. Whole point of that was because Kuz and GLG were useless and also better plays in general. After a D1 scum lynch, getting rid of some dead weight was a better call than a Swiss lynch IMO.
Still did not accurately explain either of our lynch wagons. First you tell me I am scum off a gut read, now I am deadweight? Which one is it? Btw, you are still not one either of our wagons, still sitting on Grump's.

As I said to X1, yesterDay was D2 and we'd had a scum lynch, it was the optimal time to lose some dead weight. GLG isn't scum imo, he's just a bad player. Null at least. So toDay (no longer D2 with some extra time on our hands) he isn't a good lynch.

Would still take Kuzlynch just as readily as your lynch, so you know. Probably moreso, that boy is scum. But I'm voting you for pressure :awesome: In truth, I'll need to reread to see where I stand on you, last night's vote for you was empty and without intent to lynch.


See my reply to Swiss. p.s. you're parroting.
@Mod, are we allowed to suggest a prod of half of a hydra? Kind of a dumb question in general, but I'd really like to hear more from the other half.
K so you start out this response by saying "we had a scum lynch d1, lets just kill some deadweight now regardless of alignment." Understandable, though I dont agree with you.

So now GLG is not scum. Thought you just said he was scum because his posts contained content less air which only came out and were forced once he was pressured. Now he is just deadweight.

K so now, I am scum again despite you calling me deadweight 5 posts ago.

Seems Savage came to this exact same conclusion independently. Savage is looking pretty townish now imo.

Swiss, two mafia left, or one?
Question. You already answered this one yourself iirc.

This is under the assumption that indy can't win with town, correct? Which we know to be a good one after Ryu's flip. Do you think we have a doctor?

Kuz, please remind me why you find me to be indy, if you haven't already done so.
Clarification. Question.

I'm going to jump right in and be angry for Swiss, since that's quicker.

This right here, in the same post you've quoted.

As for X1, he made it clear that X1 is lower priority than the rest, with the arrows.
So now that grump is dead, you gonna forget about me and GLG for a bit and play with swiss? Still waiting on that gut reaction explanation.

GLG, are you L-1? What do you think of the players who have voted you? In your opinion, have they expressed adequate reasoning? If you are not L-1, talk about myself as well, because I'll be voting for you.
Back to talking about GLG, MAKES A POST ASKING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE VOTING GLG. Seems to have completely forgotten about me.

You say this as if you'd expect it from me. Our history leads me to suspect otherwise (not to mention the impression you might have if you read or were in Death Game, lol.)

Vote GLG.
With Kuz and Larx, that's L-1 at 7 players.
Claim it, baby.
Votes GLG with no reasoning. I am assuming for the aforementioned GLG deadweight bull, but I am not sure. MAKES A POST CLARIFYING THAT GLG IS AT L-1 AND WHO IS ON THE WAGON (take not that he even says my name as being on the wagon).

Oh lol a hammer.
Oh hey, does not post once after that clarification and already forgets that I am one of the people on the wagon. Think about it. He makes a case the entire game about how me and GLG are the scum (with some grump bs thrown in). How would he not remember that Kuz, his second scummiest target, was on the wagon with him. No chastisement. Just an "lol yay we mis-lynched GLG." This is the post that got me interested in Nabe scum.

Kuz, it's unmistakable that you made an attempt to hammer just now, forgetting that your own vote was on GLG. Not only that, you claim to have reason to believe that town!GLG == scum!X1. Then, you say "oops, I think GLG is town after all".

I'm going to hold you to your vote as if it were a hammer. So, why did you hammer?

That, of all things, is like the least of your worries right now, but go ahead and answer.
I did not forget my own vote was on glg, reference all of my previous posts where I put GLG at the top of my scum list and made it clear he was dying today. How could I have forgotten that piece of info? Blatantly obvious I was baiting reactions. Trying to play off that he ****ed up by making that silly little comment.

We're off to a great start now.

Explain in detail why my reaction was what you wanted to see.
Also, defeat my post. Explain why my logic is wrong.
Already did, re-read the section.

Everybody believes GLG to be town. That has nothing to do with anything.
I am still tempted to post long strings of lol after that bolded. Are you kidding? Are you actually kidding? After playing the entire game chasing GLG and flipping back and forth between scum and deadweight, he is suddenly obvtown. It has everything to do with everything. Your top scum pick for the past 2 days just turned into "everyone believes he is town." Thats absolutely ridiculous and you know it.

We're going to play that game, now?

You can look back at my posts just as easily as yours, and see that I've been riding Town!GLG all game. I intended to get rid of GLG in D2; not so in D3. His claim was what I wanted, after which I was going to switch to Swiss or yourself.

You made the choice for me though hurpaderp
Again, saying you were riding town GLG all day is 100% bullcrap. You focused on him more than anyone else the entire game, including me the person you are currently on for calling you out for a scum reaction, and now say you were riding town glg all game.

Since you're so eager to get back to normality.


To parroting: I was able to answer a question that you asked with my answer to the question that Swiss asked.

I'd like to hear her thoughts on things, is all. Could we see another small chat log or something?


@Swiss, back to the setup talk from before. Do you think we have a doctor?
Not wanting to get me started up on your lynch, you wanna get back to talking to swiss it seems. More questions. Your play this game has heavily been focused on GLG and Swiss for weird reasons and I dont like it.

I'm trying to make this as reasonable as possible without harnessing my flowing river of hot molten hatred.
Well arent you just so prudent. About no answering questions, I feel someone else in this game does that too. Something about a gut reaction concerning a scummy/deadweight person. Oh well, doubt that ones going to re-surface.

I would agree that all those players need to contribute more, yes.

Kuz, you scum. That is good reasoning right there.
Surely you can see how your question differs from mine. You're not calling me scum. You're specifically calling me indy. Why?
K so now I am not deadweight again, I am scummy. Back and forth we go. I am calling you scum, btw. My indy read was just initial take on your play before reading the entire game.

This amuses me.
I am glad.



All done. Will post my chart of scumminess in the next post
 

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Here is what I am thinking in terms of order

1. Nabe
2. TW
3. Swiss

I think that should wrap up the game.

If Nabe flips scum, go for TW no doubt.

If Nabs flips town, probably go for TW, but swiss is more of a possibility.

Why? Nabe has been focusing on asking swiss questions and putting a lot of attention into him. If Nabe were to flip scum, I could perfectly see scum nabe creating a link between him and town swiss for when swiss flipped (he thought this was going to happen).

If nabe is town, then its more of a null on swiss and I would still prefer TW. But if he flips scum I would say Swiss is town.
 
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I'm gonna wait for Nabe's response.

If you had to pick out of your three town picks who was scum. Who would it be?

(assuming your town picks are GLG/Larxene/X1-12)
 

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GLG is playing exactly how I see him play town in other games, I am comfortable with him as town.

I have some things of concern with your recent posts, savage, but upon a re-read I would be comfortable placing you over x1. Probably.

It is really close to be honest. But from my re-read and subsequent ISO, probably x1.
 

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For clarification, I still think you are all townies. But if for some odd reason those 3 die and no faction has won yet and we have to chose between you 3, I would pick x1 first, savage second, glg third.
 
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