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Savage SERIOUSLY don't hammer so rashly
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Nabe said:Claim it, baby.
If a VT claims VT, that's one less player the scum has to kill to find the PRs.So we don't accidentally hammer a good town pr and to bait/receive ccs.
Since we don't know about getting an extension, nabe, just claim.
Even if you claim a good pr and we end up lynching me toDay scum wont kill you tonight because they would want to keep you around to generate wifom toMorrow about your alignment.
So basically you're saying that it was okay for you to waste several days not answering x1's questions but if nabe waits then its unacceptable?Ill humor you in waiting for that long post but if its not posted by tomorrow night, it wont slide.
I want to have at least 24 hours until the deadline to think about other things. It would be so much easier if you claimed. I have a way to tell if you are lying.
I want to have time before the deadline to make last minute decisions, I would not mind him taking longer if we had more time. Again, don't count on extensions.th3kuzinator said:I really dont wanna rush you nabe, but we have two days and if we can talk this out before the deadline comes close we will have time to make any last minute decisions need we to by lack of replacement/mod.
Kuz said:anyone find it weird that Nabe was the one championing making sure GLG was at L-1 (he even made a post at GLG explaining that me, savang, and im were on that wagon) yet was unable to tell that I simply re-voted GLG.
X1 said:oh no hammer if thats the case. Still you scum
Kuz said:x1 u said in d1 that you were confident of your nabe read.
how is that read siting with you toDay? Also, your thoughts on savage.
X1 said:bro, you and swiss are the 2 scum. Thats all that matters
Kuz said:x1 would scum-kuz really do this? I would only feel confident about doing this if I was a townie and knew we were in the lead. Think about it. Why would scum kuz turn around and do something drastic like this when I probably could have gotten away hiding on the GLG wagon.
X1 said:W-W-W-W-WIFOM
Here you go.X1 said:I am literally just waiting until everyone is OK with hammering kuz.
Not directly asked at me but nonetheless. Saying you and Swiss are the last two scum pretty much should clarify that I think all the other players are town. Same goes to the next question.anyone find it weird that Nabe was the one championing making sure GLG was at L-1 (he even made a post at GLG explaining that me, savang, and im were on that wagon) yet was unable to tell that I simply re-voted GLG.
There are 2 scum left in various forms. Its you and Swiss. Everyone else is town, duhx1 u said in d1 that you were confident of your nabe read.
how is that read siting with you toDay? Also, your thoughts on savage.
"Would I do this as scum?" is WIFOM, I label it as such, do you want me to drink your wine? That will only be confusing and detrimental to town.x1 would scum-kuz really do this? I would only feel confident about doing this if I was a townie and knew we were in the lead. Think about it. Why would scum kuz turn around and do something drastic like this when I probably could have gotten away hiding on the GLG wagon.
This logic is sooooo messed up.If a VT claims VT, that's one less player the scum has to kill to find the PRs.
If a PR claims, that's flatout giving away a PR.
I'm not claiming.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that you want the long version now, since Larx is becoming apoplectic. That'll be my next post.
please tell me you mean tonight instead of toNight.....Claim, or write out your response by toNight. Please and thank you
you so sillySoo basically you are saying no one should ever claim? Really. Please tell me I'm wrong.
Seems like you've misunderstood my reasoning in the first place. That is the reason for an extension. We've had a period of modlessness and Tigerlessness. We should take our extension now and give the replacement that extra 5 days to catch up, rather than dropping them in mid-Night or worse.And now your excuse to ask for extension is moot cuz the MOD has now returned and seems to be looking for a replacement.
That was a vote to get Tiger talking. Clearly warranted, given his recent /out.Why put your vote on TW with no stance behind it? Plus, you seem to think Cello is town yet don't question his reasoning for being adamant about TW being town.
As you say, scum don't draw attention to each other early on. Cello-rule 11a. "Busing happens. However, it does not happen on the first page." Acrostic and Tiger kept each other in the limelight as much as they could with their random shenanigans. Would they do this with a slew of people they have never played with? No. Conservatism rules the day when dealing with unknown elements. Of the two, Acrostic looked better with post #15, and yet Tiger kept it up a little bit more by voting him. What scummy agenda does that serve? None that I can see, except perhaps to blend into a crowd. But no such crowd had formed. Finally, Acrostic himself questioned why I was trying to be his friend. Someone that hasn't played with me would have little reason to question why I've cleared them, and yet he did.
Let's look at the post you've quoted in context with the rest of the exchange; I don't think you did.Unnecessary defense of x1, despite Ryu's unconvincing case. Scum defneding town, never seen that before.
I think Larxy is town and X1-12 is scum. Boy hasn't contributed anything useful in over 50 posts, other than 1-2 line zingers and calls for bandwagons. When he jumped on Nymph that made me think of scum who jump on town who are under fire, in order to avoid suspicion.
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Giving Nabe and Kuz time to give us impressions.
Don't bother putting it back on. X1 isn't going to respond to pressure in that way this game.
Not the point. You announced that you wouldn't be here, and then continued posting. Regardless, unless me being pissed at you is a scumtell, this is irrelevant.Yes, because responding to x1 is just as quick as doing an entire 200 post read and then typing out my picks.
As I say, D1 read based on meta. Cello got caught for the exact same scummeta in a couple other games, and nearly got lynched as town for it in DnD. It's not absurd to think he might be able to stop himself from doing it.So, relying on previous meta, Cello is town trying to look scum. At least you take a stance on cello, but your logic for it is bull. Despite this, you will change opinions quite quickly.
Go ahead and elaborate on the bolded. Where does this meta come from? For that matter, what are you even talking about? Is it "Nabe-like" to post frequently with decent bits of content?Now check this. Something that caught me off-guard and very un-nabe like. Previous to this point in the game, though only in it for a short time, nabe posted fairly frequently with decent bits of content. I am starting the next bit of quotes directly after the time that Cello came under fire.
Give it a few days irl and I'll tell you if Cello's scum.
Is it this game I'm fake crumbing vig?
Would lynch half the players in the game. Someone aim me in a direction.
Even if there could be a turning point in a whole 20 posts of play, you have misplaced that point. You are plainly wrong. Now, are you wrong because you made this up when you were on the chopping block, or just illiterate? Don't answer that; I intend to.You said:I am starting the next bit of quotes directly after the time that Cello came under fire.
Sure is. Damn those useless questions of mine!Question.
I have this tendency to still joke along with others and keep a good humour, after replacing into a game that's still in D1 and only having made a handful of posts.Unnecessary comment on Swiss' joke-post.
I answered a question posed to me by Cello, yes. I'm so scum it hurts.Casual interaction with Cello. Tells him that, despite him having zero content, that he has potential connections to me and Savage. Asks another question
Let's take a look at "the entire Cello wagon", shall we?No comments on the entire Cello wagon -->
This was 193, the start of the Cello wagon. 8:31 AM EST, Dec 24th.Lynch him with me and free pass to LYLO, I won't even mention your name.
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Vote: Cello
Continuing from my previous point: in that 13-hour period, points against Cello were addressed, people jumped on. The wagon built up to L-1 and had everyone I was curious about in on it. I got into the thread, asked him to claim since no one had. He misclaimed, I voted, and that was that.Considering you had not commented at all on the Cello wagon, why did you feel that you needed to be the one to make him claim. Jumping in to the the cred out of nowhere. This looked indyish to me.
This is cleared up, methinks. Let me know if you disagree. Bolded made me chuckle since buddying isn't "aforementioned", you've only used the term just now.Swooping out of nowhere to hammer Cello. Has no reasoning for this and, if you recall, this goes directly against his stance on cello previously. How I see it? Scum backing up other scum when Cello was not close to being lynch --> realizing Cello was bound to die after his fakeclaim --> hammers to take the cred and possibly clear himself of his aforementioned buddying. Inevitably takes the cred for scum hammer.
You're a slippery one. Here's the full quote, with the context intact.Firming up that he called Cello-Scum despite contrary views earlier in the Day.
The quote is not "Cello is scum". The quote is "Cello is scum, and here's why." There's a very large difference between a stance of "yeah Cello is town idrc" and "Cello is scum, dat scumslip". You can't call it stance-hopping when proof shows up that proves a stance to be wrong. and that's what his claim of Black Bear, VT did.Cello won't flip town.
VTs are just bears, like in the OP. He claimed a unique as VT. Scumslip, IMO.
Wine.Further taking credit for outing a town baiting plan which could have just have easily been Cello telling Nabe to bus him and take cred.
He's scum lol, who cares. But there's a lot more to be said for the WIFOM of him calling you town, rather than me not being mentioned. Not sure why you brought this up.You notice the he mentions everyone in this game except nabe and the inactives? I has been much more inactive than Nabe and had replaced at the exact same time. Why would he include me and leave Nabe alone? Avoid any connection link.
Teehee.Trying to sound townie by clarifying who hammered.
Considering that you left out some of my posts in here, you may as well have left out these as well. Asking questions of people is generally considered to be a pro-town thing; not the best evidence in the world.Clarification. Question.
Question.
You probably didn't take French ever. I'll forgive you.Conveniently gets his prediction in about a poisonous fish just before the Cello flip. The first part makes me thing he is scum, the second he is indy. Scum nonetheless.
K. Now he kinda gets back on track once Cello is actually dead. Struck me as weird that his content went down and he tried to lay low during the main push of the Cello wagon.
Spoiler: I've found the reasoning, since you handed it to me. And you've handed me more with this ISO herpderpPiggybacks on Swiss saying I am anti-town but its just a gut read. This is okay, but he lets see if he ends up finding his reasoning
He has no idea why indy would ever crumb his role yet will go onto say later that Indy probably has a pro-town wincon.
Oh you. Check out your 340 when you considered that the indy could be pro-town as well. You and I assumed a pro-town indy, meaning outing them would be anti-town. That doesn't change just because we think differently now; your motive then is what's important.Because town wins when all threats to the town have been eliminated. This includes the indy. Not eventually outing the indy would go against its wincon which is thus anti-town.
GLG was being his useless townie self, as usual. By default, that puts you as the scummier of the two, hence my vote on you before GLG. You were both equally inactive, equally useless. And the gut, as you enjoy pointing out.K...so where was the reading in to your gut reaction? I just saw you say the same thing three times in a row, then vote me without reasoning while dismissing GLG as someone who is not playing the game. Your stance on GLG shifts bakc and forth constantly throughout the game.
You posted. Therefore, you were still scummy, no change there, but not as inactive or useless anymore. You being in the thread meant I could ask you questions and expect you to respond to them while I pressured GLG. Vote goes on him; that doesn't imply that he's scum to me.Because I posted, I am miles ahead of GLG and therefore the vote comes of. Thought you had the gut read thing to explain to us, guess not.
"Hey GLG, nothing that Larx said is a reason to lynch you. You're just useless. Be less useless." Yep. I'm an opportunist, that's me.So apparently, GLG's content-less posts are more scummy than the ultra gut read you had one me. You wait for Savage to post his long incrimination then feel safe going with GLG. You call GLG out for posting a huge wall of text when there was pressure yet do not question me when I do the same thing. Opportunist, banking off of Savage's assertions.
First of all, I've crossed out all the parts I didn't agree with. I'm sure you'll object.That sounds like a decent idea, lets wait until grump gets back before...
K....wait what? Wagon hopping shinanegans. Kuz and GLG are the best twoscumpicks of the day so let me start out with Kuz. vote kuz. I had a gut read on you, which I will go into later (still havn't explained that), but since you are posting now lets go on GLG. vote GLG. You posted a wall once you were in trouble and still have no good content,therefore you scum. Also Savage raises some good points on you.Oh? x1 voted grump? K. Ill wait until he comes back before voting him. *13 minutes go by* vote grump.
Whats up with that? I thought you had a read on me or GLG being the play (for bad reasons, but at least you had a stance). Why did you feel like grump needed the pressure at that moment?
Where are these posts where I'm "flip flopping" between the two?Makes it seem that he has done some research in determining the actual amount of posts from each player. Kinda weird that he feels that Grumps posts were a good contribution to town yet still feels that he deserves to be on Grump's wagon. Flip flopping back and forth between Grump and GLG. Whatever looks better at tthe time.
A poisoner would never be pro-town. The immunizer could have been. This is, again, you misreading.Looks like something you would have done, if indy, considering you wanted to impose the idea that indy was pro-town and had a pro-town wincon. Now that x1 had shattered that illusion, you seem to think this is dumb.
You were both, scum and deadweight. Perfect D2 lynch. Still a great lynch.Still did not accurately explain either of our lynch wagons. First you tell me I am scum off a gut read, now I am deadweight? Which one is it? Btw, you are still not one either of our wagons, still sitting on Grump's.
Scummy deadweight would've been better. They're not mutually exclusive.K so you start out this response by saying "we had a scum lynch d1, lets just kill some deadweight now regardless of alignment." Understandable, though I dont agree with you.
He was never scum, you mook. You are literally describing deadweight. He's anti-town by extension, but that's not the same as me saying "you are scum, and here's why". You can be scummy and not be my scumpick.So now GLG is not scum. Thought you just said he was scum because his posts contained content less air which only came out and were forced once he was pressured. Now he is just deadweight.
Yep. You scum.K so now, I am scum again despite you calling me deadweight 5 posts ago.
Lolyou. I wanted to hear it from Swiss. Anything from Swiss would be welcome.Question. You already answered this one yourself iirc.
Not even sure what you're saying here, but let's talk about the gut.So now that grump is dead, you gonna forget about me and GLG for a bit and play with swiss? Still waiting on that gut reaction explanation.
Ignoring this, since it's pointless. There's no scum motive to me pretending to forget that your vote was there; there would be motive to forgetting and then blaming you for the hammer as an opportunist, but that's not the tack you've taken, lol. My vote was to get a claim, obviously.Back to talking about GLG, MAKES A POST ASKING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE VOTING GLG. Seems to have completely forgotten about me.
Votes GLG with no reasoning. I am assuming for the aforementioned GLG deadweight bull, but I am not sure. MAKES A POST CLARIFYING THAT GLG IS AT L-1 AND WHO IS ON THE WAGON (take not that he even says my name as being on the wagon).
Ignoring everything else in this post that I've shown to be false:Oh hey, does not post once after that clarification and already forgets that I am one of the people on the wagon. Think about it. He makes a case the entire game about how me and GLG are the scum (with some grump bs thrown in). How would he not remember that Kuz, his second scummiest target, was on the wagon with him. No chastisement. Just an "lol yay we mis-lynched GLG." This is the post that got me interested in Nabe scum.
I don't know. But scum can forget things just as easily as town can.I did not forget my own vote was on glg, reference all of my previous posts where I put GLG at the top of my scum list and made it clear he was dying today. How could I have forgotten that piece of info? Blatantly obvious I was baiting reactions. Trying to play off that he ****ed up by making that silly little comment.
Quote it, or explain more thoroughly. Obviously I don't think what you've said is sufficient explanation.Already did, re-read the section.
Nah.I am still tempted to post long strings of lol after that bolded. Are you kidding? Are you actually kidding? After playing the entire game chasing GLG and flipping back and forth between scum and deadweight, he is suddenly obvtown. It has everything to do with everything. Your top scum pick for the past 2 days just turned into "everyone believes he is town." Thats absolutely ridiculous and you know it.
Yep.Again, saying you were riding town GLG all day is 100% bullcrap. You focused on him more than anyone else the entire game, including me the person you are currently on for calling you out for a scum reaction, and now say you were riding town glg all game.
That post is a question to you, a question to Swiss and a response to Larx.Not wanting to get me started up on your lynch, you wanna get back to talking to swiss it seems. More questions. Your play this game has heavily been focused on GLG and Swiss for weird reasons and I dont like it.
Lol. Difference is, my question means something.Well arent you just so prudent. About no answering questions, I feel someone else in this game does that too. Something about a gut reaction concerning a scummy/deadweight person. Oh well, doubt that ones going to re-surface.
Yes. Generally when people make scumslips, I'd tend to refer to them as scum.K so now I am not deadweight again, I am scummy. Back and forth we go. I am calling you scum, btw. My indy read was just initial take on your play before reading the entire game.
Not to scare anyone, but this was four hours ago.Deadline is set for Jan 12th, 11:59 PM AEST.
Are you just going to ignore nabe's post against you?Swiss, who scum?