Bear and Fish 11: Over. Everyone loses, Town loses a little less

[Swiss]

Kuz, did you suspect Nabe before I called him scumdie?

Your ISO isn't very convincing. But for the purposes of the Nabe lynch OH EMM GEEE LOOK AT NABE SHCUM

 

[X1-12]

jus lynch Kuz already

blah blah blah, blah blah sherlock

Well this suggests 3 possible things

1.) he is Town

2.) he is mafia

3.) he is indy

Seriously kill him

 

[Swiss]

Everybody believes GLG to be town. That has nothing to do with anything.

If you're town, you made a horrible mistake and are trying to cover it up with nonsense. Huge possibility of you flipping scum.

You dying satisfies everyone. Day shouldn't end yet, but needs to end with your flip.

Anyway, if I were to be modkilled, the day wouldn't end.

Helloooooo?

 

[Swiss]

He HAS to be scum.

 

[X1-12]

lol

you *******

 

[X1-12]

Thats genuinely lower than I'd ever expect you to sink

 

[Swiss]

I feel quite dirty myself.

 

[X1-12]

You're going to die tomorrow you know

 

[Swiss]

Y'all gonna try to lynch this.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Oh you swiss.

 

[TigerWoods]

Request: Replacement

I apologize for not doing this sooner ;(

I didn't realize that my break would be so eventful ;_;

 

[th3kuzinator]

This game -_-

Kuz, did you suspect Nabe before I called him scumdie?

Yes. I showed you the point during my re-read where his play caught me as weird.

GLG, would you consider voting nabe?

 

[giraffelasergun]

I would indeed consider voting nabe.

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Who is Larxy throwing her vote on?

She literally is stuck on Nabe or th3kuzi.

Leaning th3kuzi. like alot.

GLG take a stance please.

Who would you rather lynch? th3kuzi or Nabe?

 

[Swiss]

Then do it.

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Then do what? Vote th3kuzi?

I said I'd wait to see what Nabe says in regards to th3kuzi's ISO before finalizing where my thoughts are.

Gonna quickhammer mate?

 

[X1-12]

HAMMER KUZ FFS

/capsandangry

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Unofficial Vote Count

th3kuzinator (2): X1-12, Nabe
Nabe (2): th3kuzinator, Swiss

Not Voting: Larxene, TigerWoods, GLG

That's where the votes lie~

Btw, where is the mod? ;_;

 

[giraffelasergun]

Going with Vote: Nabe

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Interesting....

I could hammer Nabe now and here is what could happen:

Lynch Nabe - pops town

Lynch th3kuzi, toMorrow

Lynch Nabe - pops scum/indie

Need to re-think some things.

Still gonna wait on Nabe and we still have 3 days till deadline is up and we have a mod that is MIA and a player requesting replacement that we really have no solid read on because they have been gone the entire time.

Yea we have alot of reasons to wait. So I'm gonna.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I am banking all my assertions on Nabe/Swiss/TW.

If Nabe flipped town I would DEFINITELY be someone to look into tomorrow, probably the lynch candidate.

Still, of course, I would do another read and give my thoughts on everyone again, re-evaluating things with nabe's flip.

I am banking on Nabe flipping scum, though.

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Also can you go more into depth on TigerWoods th3kuzi?

I mean what makes him one of your scum picks? Is it the slot itself or his actions that are scum? Process of elim? Stronger town reads than him?

Curious because the only thing you have said that makes him a possibility is Cello saying something iirc.

Aaaaand if Nabe flips town are you comfortable being lynched toMorrow? Consider though toMorrow is most likely MYLO. (only if Nabe is not scum/indie)

 

[th3kuzinator]

I mean what makes him one of your scum picks? Is it the slot itself or his actions that are scum? Process of elim? Stronger town reads than him?

There is not a whole lot to go on because of his long lapses of inactivity. I do have much stronger town reads than him and the thing I said about Cello makes so much sense in my mind, its crazy.

Think about it. Why would scum cello want to group three town players together that could make the third look semi-confirmed when the first two flip. He wouldn't. He probably grouped his scum buddy into there to 1. make the buddy look townie if the other two flipped or 2. make the other two townies look scummy if TW flipped.

Basically, I am on him because there are townier/more productive players than him, the cello thing, and flip reasons. Pretty decent amount of info from an inactive, huh? Just putting it out there, if you are uncomfortable lynching Nabe today, I would also be okay with a TW lynch.

If we end up lynching nabe and he flips indy/mafia --> swiss is town.
If we end up lynching nabe he flips indy --> TW is probably mafia
If we end up lynching nabe and he flips mafia --> my Cello reasoning on TW holds less merit.
If we end up lynching nabe and he flips town --> Will decide between swiss and tw toMorrow after another read.

Those are my flip reasons for nabe anyway.

If there are 7 people now, how would a mislynch make it mylo?

We would have 5 tomorrow assuming that somone is not immunized

if we assume 1 maf and 1 indy, another mislynch would bring us to lylo (although a very poor one for town) in a 1v1v1. There is also a chance someone gets saved because he was immunized.

I know I am town, so my lynch is just an unfortunate event for town, but if no-one dies tonight it wont be the game-breaker. Will really have to re-think everything when, and if, Nabe flips.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Spoiler: Tiger gets replaced by DH.


Kuz, this is a cool ISO that shows me why you think I'm scum. Thank you for putting in actual effort. I'll admit, it's far more than I'd care to do. Now, would you prefer that I knock out your case in a couple sentences, or should I type up a nice long RE:iso and summarize it with those same couple sentences?

Note that with the latter, I will requote every post of mine that you've quoted in your ISO, then quote all of your posts, then proceed to painstakingly show why every single thought you've written is wrong, and probably bring the activity in this game to a crashing halt (but that's okay because it's more important that I'm right. )

Regardless of your preference for the above: your response to why you said I was indy is absolutely BS. Also unprovable, but more to the point, I simply don't believe it. Pay more attention to the words you use if you're town; I'm treating it as a tell regardless. Mafia concentrates on indy since it allows them to scumhunt; now that you've been called out on it, you've moved me to a general scum read. That's how I'm taking it. Cool? Cool.

Responses aside from the ISO coming now.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Well. I certainly thought I had more to respond to than this.

602: lol.

 

[Swiss]

Hammer Nabe.

 

[X1-12]

Back to Kuz. Fo' Sho'

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Yeah, let's not hammer me, how 'bout that.

With a player getting replaced and the mod being inactive, a deadline extension will be granted.

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Nabe, there is NO reason for an extension. I have said before there is a reason to wait for me hammering but my patience is wearing. I am not asking for a deadline extension because there is NOTHING left to discuss unless you bring it up cuz here are the paths we are taking:

Lynch th3kuzi

Lynch Nabe

Why should I not hammer you? (btw you should claim now) Destroy th3kuzi's ISO and convince me to vote him.

X1, who are you looking at if th3kuzi flips scum? What if he flips town? What about indie?

Swiss, who are you looking at if Nabe flips scum? What if he flips town? What about indie?

GLG, are you gonna continue being just "that townie" who does nothing, ride his claim/situation, and just bandwagon with people?

@Everyone: I hate being in the hammering position. -_-"

 

[X1-12]

Vote for kuz. Then you're not in the hammering position. =]

whatever he flips (scum) its swiss next

 

[th3kuzinator]

when I flip town x1 is just gonna go after swiss anyway.

I am interested about swiss' opinion after a nabe flip

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe, there is NO reason for an extension.

Is too. Me and Kuz need to have a nice long chat about him being wrong.

Unless he informs me that the chat won't take place, in which case I'll just tell him why he's wrong in shorthand. But I'd prefer the chat, and I'd prefer the extension, which all things considered needs to happen with the introduction of a new player. Not to mention, the mod has to actually get here and start looking for said replacement. We need an extension.

Not claiming. There's no need. Just be smart and don't hammer.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I dont think an extension is necessary.

I am annoyed Tiger is getting replaced, because I feel his slot is scummy and would have been a very good lynch to default to today.

Nabe, you say DH is replacing TW. Where did you come across this info? Also, why has he not even viewed this thread if he is replacing.

We also need to mod back asap, kinda ridiculous.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Nabe, you gonna have to claim before we have our little chat. I have put all my cards out on the table, I want to see yours.

You are at L-1 as well. Just man up and do it.

 

[th3kuzinator]

oh and since I am not banking on an extension, claim now so we can start having a chat asap.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Don't become no-joke GLG on me, Kuz. The DH thing was a joke.
Extension is necessary because of the replacement and because our mod isn't here. Being close to a hammer doesn't make that any less true. It's inarguable.


"I want you to claim before I let you counter my ISO that used misplaced suspicion to get you to L-1 in the first place."

Yeah, no. We've had claims from Swiss and GLG already, that's enough. I'm not helping scum find PRs. If you want me to claim, give me a reason. Do you know why we ask for claims at all? That might be step 1.

 

[th3kuzinator]

So we don't accidentally hammer a good town pr and to bait/receive ccs.

Since we don't know about getting an extension, nabe, just claim.

Even if you claim a good pr and we end up lynching me toDay scum wont kill you tonight because they would want to keep you around to generate wifom toMorrow about your alignment.

 

[th3kuzinator]

thats assuming your not scum fake claiming obv

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Nabe's here is what I'm gonna let ya choose between.

Either you claim in your next post or I hammer you.

OR

You refute the entire case brought on you or I hammer you.

Choose one of these paths, do it, or be lynched. Simple as that.

I'm not kidding, next post you make after this.

@EVERYONE: Important notice. I talked to Sold2 about the MOD situation. He needs to talk to Xiivi but it seems he is willing to sub in while Summoner is not here. He needs to get the set-up which he will from Xiivi but it seems we have a temp mod till then.

 

[th3kuzinator]

wonder why cello keeps viewing this thread...

Maybe his buddy is in trouble.