Bear and Fish 11: Over. Everyone loses, Town loses a little less

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Wasnt asking about your opinion, swiss, I was talking to the 4 people I believe can win this game for town.

TW, X1, Nabe, and Myself need to live longer? Why?

Are we four your strongest town reads at the moment? How can we lead town to victory? Also who is the member of that town list that has the most likelyhood of being mafia/indie?

 

[Swiss]

J stances change over time and as I read more. This explains most of it.

Kuz' recent play has seemed more townie than his old play - this does not negate his old play and he is still a scumspect.

Now I'm going back to my film >_>

 

[th3kuzinator]

Scumspect. Lol.

@J, Yes. By lynching GLG then Swiss in that order. If it needs to be GLG --> Kuz --> Swiss so be it. As long as those two die. J, you're playing weird. You know as much as I know that I think nabe is the indy. Why do you keep asking it as if you want to keep re-affirming my read? You are being repetitive, which is quite unlike you, J.

Hierarchy of Scuminess (from most to least)
GLG
Swiss
Nabe/Savage
x1
TW

Tw is 100% town, im calling that. X1 is playing good town so far, but he could be doing a ****ing awesome elaborate plot as scum. Kudos if you are. I always had a gut on nabe, not much more. J you playing weird too, repeating questions, skimming. If both swiss and GLG pop town, you or nabe would be good picks. Swiss has played his normal, oh **** I need to save myself game before he gets lynched. He does that more as scum, than as town. GLG is just playing dead scum in my book. Either he has given up or just does not know what to say to make him sound town.

 

[giraffelasergun]

I'm vanilla townie.

@J: That post wasn't a defense, it was my thoughts on the players that are voting you. In all honesty the way I'm reading it lynches should go Swiss > Kuz > Nabe > Larxene, but nabe is nabe so I probably think hes scum because hes nabe.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Also J if I were at l-1 at the time of that post the three people that would have been pressuring me would have been the three people voting me.

 

[X1-12]

glg is town.

 

[th3kuzinator]

good luck errone

vote glg

 

[th3kuzinator]

also if GLG is actually town, then x1 will go up on the scum meter

dont ask why, I just know. I might explain later.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Oh lol a hammer.

 

[X1-12]

you absolute ****ing piece of nobcheese

 

[th3kuzinator]

Oh wow, my reads just did a complete 180. Wowie, my mind got ****ed

glg is town.

unvote

Swiss is probably town too ;_;

sorry about that, you two.

 

[X1-12]

u so scum

SO SCUM.

 

[th3kuzinator]

anyone find it weird that Nabe was the one championing making sure GLG was at L-1 (he even made a post at GLG explaining that me, savang, and im were on that wagon) yet was unable to tell that I simply re-voted GLG.

Probably was so eager that he thought I hammered that he completely forgot I was already on the wagon in the first place.

 

[X1-12]

also that will still count as a hammer

 

[X1-12]

oh no hammer if thats the case. Still you scum

 

[th3kuzinator]

x1 u said in d1 that you were confident of your nabe read.

how is that read siting with you toDay? Also, your thoughts on savage.

 

[X1-12]

bro, you and swiss are the 2 scum. Thats all that matters

scum meaning antitown

 

[th3kuzinator]

just answer the question please

 

[X1-12]

I did.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Kuz, it's unmistakable that you made an attempt to hammer just now, forgetting that your own vote was on GLG. Not only that, you claim to have reason to believe that town!GLG == scum!X1. Then, you say "oops, I think GLG is town after all".

I'm going to hold you to your vote as if it were a hammer. So, why did you hammer?

That, of all things, is like the least of your worries right now, but go ahead and answer.

 

[giraffelasergun]

sflkdsalkhdlahhdks kuz masdasjdkad

 

[th3kuzinator]

Kuz, it's unmistakable that you made an attempt to hammer just now, forgetting that your own vote was on GLG. Not only that, you claim to have reason to believe that town!GLG == scum!X1. Then, you say "oops, I think GLG is town after all".

I'm going to hold you to your vote as if it were a hammer. So, why did you hammer?

That, of all things, is like the least of your worries right now, but go ahead and answer.

Nope.

Are you kidding? I made an entire post where I told you guys I was cozy on GLG's wagon. I even made a scum list where I placed GLG at the top. I knew full well what I was doing and that I was already on the wagon. Don't try to play that off like it was me trying to hammer, you are the one who jumped the gun.

Also, its called baiting reactions. Just thinking about GLG's playstyle in general, this is how he plays town.

I fake hammered telling everyone that x1 might be scum if glg is town and got a reaction from you and x1. All it was.

After my fake hammer, I did a re-read. Keeping in mind all that we have gleaned from toDay, I realized GLG was town.

 

[th3kuzinator]

And I didn't hammer you GLG, wake up.

@GLG, if you had your choice of a lynch that was other than me or swiss, who would it be? Same to you tiger.

 

[X1-12]

@Kuz: What have you gained? explain specifically how the new information helped you come to these conclusions

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

There are so many things wrong with your explanation, but here is the most glaring and scummy of them.

Nope.

Are you kidding? I made an entire post where I told you guys I was cozy on GLG's wagon. I even made a scum list where I placed GLG at the top. I knew full well what I was doing and that I was already on the wagon. Don't try to play that off like it was me trying to hammer, you are the one who jumped the gun.

I fake hammered telling everyone that x1 might be scum if glg is town and got a reaction from you and x1. All it was.

Contradiction in the same post.

Here though, more reasons you're scum:

good luck errone

vote glg

Clear intent from wording, this is meant to be a hammer. Yet you say it wasn't.

Oh wow, my reads just did a complete 180. Wowie, my mind got ****ed

glg is town.

unvote

Swiss is probably town too ;_;

sorry about that, you two.

You apologizing for your "fake" hammer. Where is the attitude of "this was intentional and I got reads out of it"?

Unvote. Vote Kuz
Die.

 

[th3kuzinator]

lol nabe u so dumb.

Exactly the reaction i was hoping for.

vote nabe

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

We're off to a great start now.

Explain in detail why my reaction was what you wanted to see.
Also, defeat my post. Explain why my logic is wrong.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Explain to me how that was a contradiction.

I conciously fake hammered for your reaction and I called you out for assuming I actually tried to hammer. If you even read my posts this entire day, you would realize I knew full well about already being on the wagon. Explain to me why that is a contradiction.

Clear intent from wording, this is meant to be a hammer. Yet you say it wasn't.

Also, its called baiting reactions.

Also, its called baiting reactions.

Also, its called baiting reactions.

And yes, I clearly intended to fake hammer, and caught a scum with it.

You apologizing for your "fake" hammer. Where is the attitude of "this was intentional and I got reads out of it"?

I apologized to them cuz I had been semi-tunneling town for the past two days, which was a dumb move. It was intentional, I did get reads out of it.

Might explain later, however.

GLG, TW - town
X1 - Probably town
Nabe - Scum

 

[th3kuzinator]

saying "oh hey guys im fake hammering" will do a pretty good job of letting you know I am fake hammering, but it wont do anything for getting scum to react.

 

[X1-12]

@kuz: #504

 

[th3kuzinator]

Hush x1, ill explain everything in a bit. Wanna see if I can get more info first

I want to see what Savage, TW, GLG and Swiss have to say.

TW you're here right now. Answer my 503

 

[X1-12]

##Kuz


Where's he at with votes anyone?

 

[th3kuzinator]

l-2 and tw left again. sigh.

 

[X1-12]

Vote: th3kuzinator

 

[th3kuzinator]

x1 would scum-kuz really do this? I would only feel confident about doing this if I was a townie and knew we were in the lead. Think about it. Why would scum kuz turn around and do something drastic like this when I probably could have gotten away hiding on the GLG wagon. I am town sir.

I know I am probably going to be lynched for this eventually, and thats fine if my death proves my reads.

 

[X1-12]

W-W-W-W-WIFOM


/caps

 

[Swiss]

Hammer and you're scum.

Catching up.

 

[giraffelasergun]

And I didn't hammer you GLG, wake up.

@GLG, if you had your choice of a lynch that was other than me or swiss, who would it be? Same to you tiger.

The hydra, as I stated in my last post.

Also, I don't really believe that you knew you weren't hammering when you fake hammered me, so I'd much rather lynch you over The Savage Nymph.

P.s Why can't you just explain your answer to x1's question now?

 

[th3kuzinator]

u guys r so dumb

Cello grouped me TW and ryu into one packaged which he affirmed scum.

Since ryu flipped town, and I am town, I would bet that TW is town.

That still leaves me with my two scumpicks swiss and GLG.

If both end up being town, then gg scumx1. I will also put myself up for immediate lynch if both are town.

vote GLG

oh and that 438 makes me feel ultra cozy on this (GLG) wagon

yesterDay my scum picks were GLG and Swiss. Was already on swiss and then I saw your big post. Thought about it and realized I had more to go on with GLG than I did with Swiss. IE i feel safer being on GLG because of my read.

i was fine yesterday, just plain sitting in a chair by an unlit fireplace fine.

Now someone lit a fire and gave me a snuggie and a warm glass of milk. Now I am cozy.

His defense for not voting swiss was standard and kinda dumb. He thinks swiss might actually hammer himself (dumb idea considering we think there is only one scum remaining) or that someone may quick hammer him even though we all know that whoever quickhammers is going to pay the price anyways.

IDC about your stances Swiss. You didnt say "If I get lynched, my read on kuz is scum, so kill him after I die" you said "If I get lynched, Kuz is scum" as if you getting lynched was a pre-requisite for my scumminess. What happens if you dont get lynched? Am i still scum?

If both swiss and glg flip town, he would be my next pick.

me swiss or glg need to go.

preferably GLG and swiss before me, since IK im town. But, whatever you guys wanna do

Scumspect. Lol.

@J, Yes. By lynching GLG then Swiss in that order. If it needs to be GLG --> Kuz --> Swiss so be it. As long as those two die. J, you're playing weird. You know as much as I know that I think nabe is the indy. Why do you keep asking it as if you want to keep re-affirming my read? You are being repetitive, which is quite unlike you, J.

Hierarchy of Scuminess (from most to least)
GLG
Swiss
Nabe/Savage
x1
TW

Tw is 100% town, im calling that. X1 is playing good town so far, but he could be doing a ****ing awesome elaborate plot as scum. Kudos if you are. I always had a gut on nabe, not much more. J you playing weird too, repeating questions, skimming. If both swiss and GLG pop town, you or nabe would be good picks. Swiss has played his normal, oh **** I need to save myself game before he gets lynched. He does that more as scum, than as town. GLG is just playing dead scum in my book. Either he has given up or just does not know what to say to make him sound town.

Yeah must have completely forgotten that I thought GLG was scum thus forgot I was on his wagon. Silly me.

GLG you're town so stop it. I am not scum.

Ill just claim, idc.

I am a bear. Vanilla townie. My Role Pm looks exactly the same as the sample one in the OP.

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Unofficial Vote Count

Nabe (1): th3kuzinator
GLG (1): Larxene
th3kuzinator (3): Swiss, Nabe, X1-12

Vote: Swiss

Vote: Swiss

Vote: GLG

Vote GLG

vote GLG

Unvote Vote Kuz

vote glg

Unvote. Vote Kuz

vote nabe

Vote: th3kuzinator

I am soooo angry at you th3kuzi it is not even funny for trying a stunt like that. I was coming in ready to vote you but because of that stunt I went back and gathered everyone's votes to see exactly where the votes stood and there is where they did. I did so that I didn't accidently hammer you. Gah I'm going to get to you soon when I do a better post tonight.

Unvote

Give me a reason not to hammer you right this second before I make my big post. Oh wait, I'm not going to hammer you because that would be moronic to end the day so soon and without going over everything but now, you need to die.