Bear and Fish 11: Over. Everyone loses, Town loses a little less

[Ryunnosuke]

Sorry X1, I can't take my vote off of GLG. I still think he's the best lynch for the day.

J, try and relax. You're takin the game way to seriously and violating the rule of having fun.

I say if GLG doesn't post by 3 pm tomorrow we go ahead and lynch him. I'd rather have Grump replaced than have him lynched.

 

[Swiss]

I was hoping my post would change his mind but I'll count him out for now. J, keep your vote where it is


@Ryu: Can you put your vote on grump please?

Things like the bolded just make no sense to me.

You already knew J wouldn't follow you and vote, why then tell him not to vote. You're telling him to do what you already know he'll be doing.

Dislike.

 

[X1-12]

@Tiger: Can you put your vote on grump please?

@Swiss: I don't see what your problem is with that post

 

[TigerWoods]

I apologize for the lack of activity, this week is a busy time of year for me.

X1 I will not place my vote unless I've read all arguments on the issue. I would also like him to respond to the questions of him. L-3 is enough pressure and don't worry I wont hesitate to vote when im sure.

@ Mod: Would it be alright if you could possibly post the Day/Night End Dates on the title of the thread?

 

[TigerWoods]

Hmm I didn't express what I meant correctly in my last post. I mean like... L-1 is dangerous and can lead to ninja hammers.

I'd rather not have him there.

 

[X1-12]

@Tiger: Reading from post #388 should be enough to explain it to you. Thats only like 20 posts and their all short

 

[TigerWoods]

Oh. I see hahaha.

UGH I hate these kinds of lynches but they're kinda necessary. Lool.

Vote:Grump

 

[X1-12]

wtf, keep your vote there but re-read #388 more carefully

 

[TigerWoods]

Lol whoops. I gotcha.

:D

 

[Swiss]

Wait.

No-one vote grump.

Let him get modkilled, then lynch GLG (lol wut).

@ Mod how long till Grump is modkilled?

 

[SummonerAU]

Right now.

Grump, Vanilla Townie has been modkilled. I'll fix up this post when I get on my laptop, there might have been details I have forgotten. Activity in this game makes me sad ;_;

N2 begins, 48 hour duration. Send all actions to me.

 

[SummonerAU]

Ryunnosuke, Town Poison Blocker has died in the night.

D3 Begins. With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is set for Jan 12th, 11:59 PM AEST.

People Alive:
1. Tom/Nabe
2. TigerWoods
3. X1-12
5. Swiss
7. GiraffeLaserGun
8. ~The Savage Nymph~
11. Acrostic/Kuz

 

[X1-12]

Nabe tricked me =[

Vote: Swiss

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe tricked me =[

Vote: Swiss

I diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid?

 

[X1-12]

I totally thought you crumbed that you poisoned Swiss N1

Also scumlist:
Swiss > kuz > glg

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

lol. Why would a poisoner even crumb that, or claim it or anything. That's really silly.

Vote: Swiss

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Humour me though, what post did you think I was crumbing in? The snake one?

 

[X1-12]

poisoner-vig? Thats what I thought you were getting at when you were going on about Swiss should die just not on D2 malarkey. What was that all about?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Could you quote the post? Really don't remember since lol it wasn't a crumb.

 

[X1-12]

Nah. Swiss wouldn't feel my vote as pressure; I've already voiced that Swiss in D2 doesn't strike me as a good play. More to the point, it wouldn't stay there for long, as I'm going to read into my gut on Kuz shortly.

Theres 3 or 4 more post like this saying that Swiss is scum but is also not a good D2 play

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Ah. Whole point of that was because Kuz and GLG were useless and also better plays in general. After a D1 scum lynch, getting rid of some dead weight was a better call than a Swiss lynch IMO.

 

[X1-12]

That's fairly legit

 

[Swiss]

Nabe, why vote me when GLG was only spared yesterday to let Grump get modkilled?

I said Ryu was town, so I'm basically cleared town off that.

 

[Swiss]

I'mma crack out a re-read, but I think Kuz/TW/GLG is the way to go.

X-town. SavageTown.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Nabe, why vote me when GLG was only spared yesterday to let Grump get modkilled?

I said Ryu was town, so I'm basically cleared town off that.

I hope you're joking about this. I don't think your a dumb person so the logic there is either you joking or admitting you're scum.

Which one is it swissy?

 

[Swiss]

It was a funny joke.

Nice to see you jumping at the opportunity to discredit me, though.

 

[X1-12]

Vote Swiss whilst you're here please

 

[giraffelasergun]

If you don't mind I'll wait to avoid a quicklynch.

 

[X1-12]

He's at L-2, he'll be fine with another vote

 

[Swiss]

Content will come when I can do a full re-read.

X1 thinks the pressure will speed me up.

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

J side speaking
Top Ranger Skye Side in Pennsylvania

Alright why has absolutely no one commented on this? Cuz there is something fishy (lol pun) about this.

There is a independent role called the 'Immuniser' in this game. Each night he can submit a target, and this player will be rendered immune to poison for the rest of the game. This does not cause an alignment change and the person will not be informed they are immune.

Ryunnosuke, Town Poison Blocker has died in the night.

Okay let us review what we know.

We have an Indie Immuniser
We have a dead Mafia Poisoner
We have a dead Town Poison Blocker

What is with this? Why the need of a Town Poisoner if we have an Immuniser that negates all poisoning on that person for the rest of the game? The Immuniser has some alterior motive to immunise their targets otherwise there is no point to this role at all. This role is most likely a role like the Piper role. This has already been discussed so let's move on.

Ryunn's flip is really a break-through because that means the Immuniser is in no-way a Town aiding faction. We had our own protection against the Mafia Poisoner. So considering the plausibilities we now have knowledge we have to have a doc to go along with our actions.

Let's look at the flips so far and who has claimed as well

Cello - Mafia Poisoner
Dou-x - Vanilla Townie
Grump - Vanilla Townie
Ryunn - Town Poison Blocker
Swiss - Vanilla Townie


4 of those people are dead. The other is Swissy. Who we have still in the dark?

X1-12
GLG
Nabe
th3kuzi
TigerWoods
Larxene

However let's add Swissy to the list above anyways to double check this cuz it could be a safe-claim.

X1-12
GLG
Nabe
th3kuzi
TigerWoods
Larxene
Swissy - Claimed VT

So in this group consists the following roles

Doctor
Immuniser
Mafia Killing role

That leaves 4 people/roles left. With this set-up is it plausible to assume there is no cop...hmm. I am thinking more on the lines we have a Voyeur in this game since it would make a lot of sense however in this game that would be an extremely powerful role.

Nabe, why vote me when GLG was only spared yesterday to let Grump get modkilled?

I said Ryu was town, so I'm basically cleared town off that.

How are you cleared because of the flip? I shouldn't have to tell ya this but Mafia knows who all the townies really are and could be right on every single flip. =/

I'mma crack out a re-read, but I think Kuz/TW/GLG is the way to go.

X-town. SavageTown.

Can you give us a town list on everyone and what you think of everyone. What are your thoughts on Nabe since you left him out on everyone. Give thoughts on everyone even the ones you consider town. State why for each person.

I hope you're joking about this. I don't think your a dumb person so the logic there is either you joking or admitting you're scum.

Which one is it swissy?

You were saved by a Grump modkill.....however not toDay.

Vote Swiss whilst you're here please

If you don't mind I'll wait to avoid a quicklynch.

He's at L-2, he'll be fine with another vote

Wait what GLG? You were saying "SWISS = SCUM LYNCH HIM!" Also you said that you were buddying X1 to get Swiss lynched as well but now you are backing down and trying to seem more town by saying "Don't want a quicklynch now" which in reality is not going to happen because of the repracautions of quicklynching someone equivalates them to being scum.

Vote: GLG

So much scum from you it hurts my eyes to hurt your posts.

@X1: L-2 is fine enough for Swiss. How much convincing would it take for you to vote GLG > Swiss?

 

[X1-12]

Sorry may have skimmed something, how do you know there is a doctor in this game?

also If you want a non-Swiss lynch then kuz is the way forward

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

I said we can assume with the possibilites that we kindof have to have a doc. Otherwise why do we have a poison blocker and not a doc? Seems a bit off if that is a case.

Just a basic train of thought in to which I infer there could be a doc.

And as I said yesterDay before it was ended by a ModKill was that I believe GLG = scum and I am going to keep my vote on him. At the current time we are basically what position we were at at the end of D2.

 

[X1-12]

That's a terrible assumption to make. Don't just assume that we will have certain roles

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Explain how it is a terrible assumption. Cuz all directions point to a possible doc. I am not saying that we DEFINETELY have a doc but there is a possibility that we do.

 

[X1-12]

poorly worded, its terrible to make assumptions like that, you can't plan things like that in mafia unless you have solid evidence, its not safe to try to meta the set-up. Even though its likelyish we have a doc, just don't assume basically

 

[~The Savage Nymph~]

Ah I see....well anyways

So today's plan is a Swiss or GLG lynch?

I want GLG
You want Swiss
Nabe is following you on Swiss.....actually wait a minute

Nabe, you were on the GLG lynch but only changed your vote for Grump because he was inactive. Also you stated yesterDay that a GLG/Kuzi lynch was better then a Swiss lynch. What makes a Swiss lynch better toDay? All you did was just vote Swiss.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Wait what GLG? You were saying "SWISS = SCUM LYNCH HIM!" Also you said that you were buddying X1 to get Swiss lynched as well but now you are backing down and trying to seem more town by saying "Don't want a quicklynch now" which in reality is not going to happen because of the repracautions of quicklynching someone equivalates them to being scum.

If I voted swiss he'd be at l-1. He could have easily gotten hammered by someone(including himself) and then we'd have a short day phase which would is a waste.

I'm not saying he isn't scum, I just don't think we should end the day yet. I will vote swiss when I feel today is ready to end.

 

[Swiss]

Just saying, I will definitely self hammer if put at L-1.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Cello grouped me TW and ryu into one packaged which he affirmed scum.

Since ryu flipped town, and I am town, I would bet that TW is town.

That still leaves me with my two scumpicks swiss and GLG.

If both end up being town, then gg scumx1. I will also put myself up for immediate lynch if both are town.

vote GLG