Drecker
Smash Ace
Post your thoughts in this thread (Click the text for you slow people).
(I main Dedede, and even I think it's ********.)
(I main Dedede, and even I think it's ********.)
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Banning Dedede's infinite?
- Thread starter Drecker
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LuLLo
Smash Ace
Well, according to my info it's not an infinite on neutral and counterpick stages, so there you go, it doesn't need to get banned, people just got to stop falling for D3's grab.
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
people are always gonna complain about things like that anyway. you just say "don't get grabbed" and then /thread lol.
Nintendevil
Smash Ace
Counterpick
You can lock this thread now.
You can lock this thread now.
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
well this thread isn't the main one, its the other one thats still going lol
Nintendevil
Smash Ace
then still lock it.
Sensei Seibrik
Smash Hero
P.s.
Im Pro Ban.
Im Pro Ban.
slikvik
Smash Master
I wonder who's never been grabbed...especially in brawl where you can power shield aerials easily to grab people out of the air
CO18
Smash Hero
Infinites need to be banned. Its ********
SOVAman
Smash Hero
Dats true its impossible not to be grabbed
Drecker
Smash Ace
If you say "Don't get grabbed" and think it's a valid argument, you are ********.
GeneralWoodman
Smash Lord
just counterpick a fox hes amazing at not getting grabbed if used right
Drecker
Smash Ace
...He's also Fox. Welcome to death by gimp.
§witch
Smash Lord
Nooooo, characters with great air mobilty/range/a disjoint are good at not getting grabbed. fox is easy to grab considering he has like 2 decent approach options, all of which allow for nigh 0 aerial movement, and are extremely easy to block and punish (dair/nair.)
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
ok then lets break it down to the basics since the blunt statement doesn't get through. to avoid grabbing you do one of the following:
1. spacing; you space correctly and you can attack and be out of all kinds of grab ranges, mostly done through SH aerials or long reaching poke moves.
2. attack and move behind; Samus can Dair, Mario Dair, Luigi tornado. use moves to get benind the person shielding. they have to turn around to grab you and if done right your already moving so they can't grab you.
3. pushback; if you have some move with shield pushback on it they can't eactly retaliate w/ grab, only dash grab, and if your not too laggy afterwards then they accomplish nothing by tring to retaliate w/ grab.
4. keepaway; projectiles. the waddledees are nice and stop quite a few things, but they can't stop everything and especially not a continuous barrage.
Sensei Seibrik
Smash Hero
ironically the best at not getting grabbed is Wario.
Equally ironically he gets the most punished when he does get grabbed.
all ddd has to do vs him is camp with bairs (beats all his attacks) and wait for him to **** up.
im basing this off of my previous matches with Afro Thunder (whos switched his main to wario bout a month ago but still plays snake) just so people dont think its a random assumption.
/ends randomness
Equally ironically he gets the most punished when he does get grabbed.
all ddd has to do vs him is camp with bairs (beats all his attacks) and wait for him to **** up.
im basing this off of my previous matches with Afro Thunder (whos switched his main to wario bout a month ago but still plays snake) just so people dont think its a random assumption.
/ends randomness
cutter
Smash Champion
Since when did D3's infinite break the game?
Drecker
Smash Ace
It doesn't break the game for everyone, read my original post and you'll see the argument.
Edit: No matter how well you space, spam, or avoid, you will still get grabbed.
cutter
Smash Champion
I read your OP.
D3's infinite does not affect the entire cast. There is nothing wrong with counterpicking, because there are PLENTY of characters who do not get infinited.
Basically D3 makes certain characters unviable... much like Sheik did in Melee.
D3's infinite does not affect the entire cast. There is nothing wrong with counterpicking, because there are PLENTY of characters who do not get infinited.
Basically D3 makes certain characters unviable... much like Sheik did in Melee.
Master Raven
Smash Master
I like to tell people who say not to get grabbed to not get hit if they want to beat MK.
Foursaken
Smash Apprentice
IC's say hi.
To the entire cast.
And for the record, mastering a broken tactic does not equal justifiable in game play.
I for one believe any move that takes the controller from your opponents hand should be banned.
Seriously, if someone perfects what the IC's can do, you lose. 3 grabs, 3 stocks, game.
If your going to ban D3's infinites, ban IC's as well.
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
thing about the ICs is that there grab range sucks and theres more required to start it, unlike DDD who just needs a few button changes and be in range. and floatier characters are more difficult for the ICs to CG too.
to counter thier CG you just pick to ICs as well anyway, if thats what keeps bothering you.
to counter thier CG you just pick to ICs as well anyway, if thats what keeps bothering you.
BurtonEarny
Smash Ace
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slikvik
Smash Master
you can camp until you get an opportunity to separate the ICs. Its obviously not the same lol
Nitrix
Smash Ace
"Don't get grabbed" applies to ICs. Their range sucks, and they cannot chaingrab if the other one is dead. Sure they are powerful, but it can be managed.
Dedede has the range, and thus cannot be avoided so easily. His throw should be banned.
TheWaft
Smash Journeyman
you can't ban the infinite, its too awesome.
T3h Albino
Smash Master
soloution
dont use
Luigi,Mario,Bowser,Dk, or Samus
against d3
<_<
dont use
Luigi,Mario,Bowser,Dk, or Samus
against d3
<_<
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
Perfect Shielding > Your Argument
Kinzer
Mammy
Because We are all computers and we can ALWAYS perfect shield EVERY attack, be it Ike's FSmash, or MK's multi-hit Jab!
Amirite?
Also I voted for pro-ban.
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
also FYI mr quote me from long time ago, that post was to address how to deal with shield grabbing, and spacing still works.
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
If Mario, Luigi, or DK get perfect shielded once, they will probably get grabbed. Stock is gone. You don't have to PS everything.
Spacing, easier said than done against the character with the longeset non-tether grab in the game. And again, a PS will result in a grab, even out of a well spaced aerial.
Kinzer
Mammy
So wait, are you... Pro-ban or something?
either way, "If Mario, Luigi, or DK get perfect shielded once, they will probably get grabbed. Stock is gone. You don't have to PS everything. " Thanks for addressing the problem at hand?
I'm confused...
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
I'm just saying that spacing isn't gonna stop you from getting grabbed and then killed. Take a look at the post I originally quoted.
ADHD
Smash Hero
STOP BEING BABIES. Use falco, MY GOD PPL WHINING THESE DAYS
CO18
Smash Hero
Says the guy who whines about someone counterpicking Norfair against him to the point he considers not playing them anymore.
Hmm complaining about not possibly being able to win and your character being unviable in tournaments is definitley being a baby where as crying about a cp stage is not.
You are absoultely right.